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psychology is nonsense
| #1 :: September 10th, 2012 @ 12:59 AM | |
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This is what my boyfriend's mom told him when he said he wanted to see a theattacker because he was feeling really depressed and really wanted to see a professional to talk about his past.
I may be declaring my major in the spring as psych and shoot for a masters, but preferably a doctorate (if I can afford to make it that far anyhow). I was extremely insulted when he told me this is what she said to him. Tell me I'm not crazy. Are there more people out there that think this?
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| #2 :: September 10th, 2012 @ 1:12 AM | |
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Unfortunately there are, yes. I am a psychology major, and a criminal justice minor... this means I have a lot of criminology classes which, for whatever reason, are filled with morons. I've heard so many things "schizophrenia isn't real!" "Bipolar isn't real!" "They're doing that for attention!" Etc, etc... Even when you show them images showing, for example, physical changes noted in a schizophrenic's brain, they refuse to believe it, and continue to insist it isn't real, and that psychology is all 'bullcrap'. It's ridiculous. For me And I'm feeling good |
| #3 :: September 10th, 2012 @ 1:12 AM | |
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 His mom really told him that? That sounds rather crazy. Psychology is not nonsense, in my opinion. I think that seeing a theattacker and a professional about depression and needing to just voice how he feels is something his mom needs to take into consideration. I don't think you're crazy. People have their beliefs, and you can't change them all the time. Possibly his mother was baffled her son was depressed, and she believed he seemed too well for a theattacker...Or maybe she interprets a theattacker visit in a bad way, like only terrible cases of depression need therapy?
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| #4 :: September 10th, 2012 @ 1:29 AM | |
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@Ayeaka @Reprise
I remember once a neighbor lady telling me something to the degree of "crazy people don't realize they're crazy". Something about this statement always resonated with me, and especially now with this particular statement his mom made (she actually said "psychology is bullcrap" but I didn't really want to make that my title  ). There's times where I feel like she needs therapy more than he does. According to him, she said that theattackers are just money grubbing and don't really care about your problems and that they'd never help him out. I was incredibly saddened as he had apparently been seeing a theattacker when he was 13 (he's 22 now), and he said that it had been helping him out tons-- until she pulled him out of the office and never let him come back. :/I just needed to vent because I was really offended. My mom got her bachelors degree psych and later on a degree in criminal psych, so it's just something I've always grown up with and been very interested in. It's only been since the end of my 2nd semester at college that I started seriously considering it as a degree to pursue, but I think it's the right thing for me.
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| #5 :: September 10th, 2012 @ 1:34 AM | |
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I don't think theattackers would honestly be in their jobs right now to listens to others problems and help them out if they were there to just take all your money and not give two craps. They are honestly helpful, and they truly do care about your well being. It's awful that he had been pulled out of the office and forbade him from coming back because of her own beliefs. Therapy really would be good for his mother, yes. It looks like you and his mother grew up in two opposite environments, so that causes you to feel offended, and her to be quite upset about therapy and Psychology. I totally understand about venting; it always feels better to let it out. ^^ My mom had received a double major in Psychology and Sociology, so I can completely understand where you're coming from on feeling offended towards her comment. You should definitely pursue it if you feel it's the right career choice for you!
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| #6 :: September 10th, 2012 @ 3:14 AM | |
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@Kramer
I have certainly heard that sentiment around, and it is usually by people who have a very high internal locus of control. A lot of times these people find the idea that someone else is going to help you with your problems seems counter-productive as it is not their way of dealing with things. Just like any other treatment, there are some people who believe that talking through a problem will not help them. It is disappointing to see that your boyfriend's mother limit your boyfriend's access to therapy if he found it helpful. Personally, I don't find counselling to be particularly useful for me, but that is not to say that I begrudge other people from seeking it out as a treatment. I also find the insistence by some members of the psychological and psychiatric community of pathalogising everything to be somewhat frustrating. For some people, giving them a diagnosis gives them an excuse to act the way they do. A good recent example is "intermittent explosive disorder." Some people then use this diagnosis as a crutch. "I can't help it, I have a medical disorder." But yes, to each his own. I don't personally find it useful, but I certainly encourage people who divulge to me that they are having issue to go try it to see how they find it for themselves.
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| #7 :: September 10th, 2012 @ 11:24 AM | |
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@Kramer Plenty of people think that, because they're stupid, and usually suffering from some type of mental illness themselves.
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| #8 :: September 10th, 2012 @ 1:20 PM | |
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 The only time I think it goes a little too far is when people start claiming their animals have X mental disorder. Just...I kinda don't think your dog has multiple personality disorder, you know? Then again, those aren't psychologists...
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| #9 :: September 11th, 2012 @ 1:55 AM | |
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That's unfortunately a very real, rather old mindset. It spurs from the idea that mental illness is not a "real" problem when it is just as biologically (or more accurately biochemically) based as diabetes is.
@Magic I would agree- with the exception of PTSD. Ex-service (police, war) dogs in particular are known to have PTSD.
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| #10 :: September 11th, 2012 @ 4:06 PM | |
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| #11 :: September 11th, 2012 @ 4:18 PM | |
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That I can see, since it's like a memorable trauma. Dogs have demonstrated the ability to remember words and situations, and I'd think a traumatic situation would be no exception.
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| #12 :: September 11th, 2012 @ 7:30 PM | |
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I would think that his parents would understand psychology seeing as that they're, uh, pharmacists. Y'know? The people that provide the medications needed for people that have health problems, including mental health. I dunno, they're crazy. @Satis I think the fact this his mom is such a control freak is indeed the issue. She's definitely a "take care of it yourself" kind of lady. @Flamingo Unfortunately, my boyfriend acts the same way to me as well. I have anxiety attacks sometimes, not as much as I used to, and he would blow them off and have this attitude like "dude, wtf? get over it". YEAH THANKS. What's weird is that he sometimes gets anxiety attacks too, so I would think that he would understand. Guess not. :/
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| #13 :: September 11th, 2012 @ 7:36 PM | |
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| #14 :: September 11th, 2012 @ 10:13 PM | |
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@Dandelina
I think telling other people that psychology is useless before they've tried it is detrimental, but I don't think they're stupid or have a mental illness because of it. Some people find psychology to be entirely unhelpful in solving their problems, same with chiropractic, physical therapy, osteopathy, podiatry, hypnotherapy and the list goes on. Everyone deals with and manages their problems in different ways, and for some people, a psychological approach is useless. @Kramer Definitely sounds like that's her problem then. Sad that she's being so stubborn and not actually listening to her son telling her that it helps him.
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| #15 :: September 11th, 2012 @ 10:25 PM | |
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@Satis The only time psychiatry/psychology fails is when the person doesn't care or they just have too many problems and are an outlier (which no one professes they can 100% help anyway, all they can do is attempt).
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| #16 :: September 11th, 2012 @ 10:38 PM | |
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@Dandelina I have to disagree. Psychology is not 100% effective for all people. Just as any medication is not 100% effective for all people. To say the only reason it does not help is that people have too many complex problems is misleading. Non-compliance is not the only reason it does not work. Here is a systematic review looking at the effectiveness rates of psychoanalytic therapy. There is not a perfect effectiveness rating here. I am sure that some of it is due to non-compliance, but to suggest that the only time it doesn't help is is the person doesn't care enough, or have too many issues is fallacious. And just for variety, here is one for CBT-based self-help interventions. Last Edit by:
Satis 9/11/12 - 10:43:02 pm
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| #17 :: September 11th, 2012 @ 10:50 PM | |
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 bleugh, that mindset is so toxic. truth of the matter is that there's just a lot of people in this world who benefit from therapy and psychiatric medicine and what have you. there's a huge stigma surrounding mental illness, and there's also a huge stigma surrounding seeking treatment for mental illness. can't lovein win with some people, swear to god. In hoc signo taurus vinces.
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| #18 :: September 14th, 2012 @ 9:33 PM | |
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 If someone came to the conclusion then this is really time! Because people wih an illness usually doesn't want to be helped and fix themselves alone. If someone says/talks to others - especially family (which is the hardest part!). Then congrats for coming this far and try!!! You don't find the right theraphy or doc right away. You can be lucky or not. But never stop trying getting better. I know it's tough. U_u 
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| #19 :: September 15th, 2012 @ 5:39 PM | |
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I don't think it's nonsense. I do think some theattackers suck no matter how experienced they are, including my current one. Unfortunately, I am too anxious to tell her I want to switch.
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| #20 :: September 16th, 2012 @ 12:53 PM | |
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Justrandomly putting this in here since someone mentioned dogs.... If dogs could be bipolar, all dogs would be classified bipolar! Haha.
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| #21 :: September 18th, 2012 @ 3:06 AM | |
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There's no. Nothing left for me. When all beauty's destroyed. My grandfather doesn't believe in mental illnesses. My mom was trying to explain to him that my dad has issues because he had a crapty childhood and crapty parents and he replies "that has nothing to do with it" Ummm hello? Wtf? He's complete moron. But my dad has been going to a theattacker, psychologist, and a psychiatrist, the works, and he's been doing so much better. When my insurance kicks in I plan on going to see a theattacker or whoever for my depression and whatever else I might have. There's no. Nothing left to see. Once all beauty's destroyed.
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