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the rebel flag-offensive or history?
| #81 :: October 15th, 2010 @ 2:42 PM | |
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The KKK started in Tennessee. Quote: 1# They go around wearing all these "Black Mans Creed" shirts, with all these racial things on them directed towerd the White Americans. If these things offend you (even though I've never seen any of this in my life, ever), then you can take it up politely with the person doing them. Not the racial group. Quote: 3# They won't let the past go. A) That's because events that happened in the past are still affecting the black community today. A group does not recover from enslavement in one generation. B) Apparently you can't let go either, considering that you insist on waving the flag of a country that no longer exists. Quote: And another thing: I don't understand. Was this supposed to help your argument? Assault is illegal. Have fun getting arrested and incarcerated. Last Edit by:
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| #82 :: October 15th, 2010 @ 3:15 PM | |
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@ Okay.. You've crossed the line..  First thing's first: Look at the ohh say the loving kind JEWISH people. The German Nazi's killed many of them, look at them.. THEY, got over it. THEY got over what happend 71 years ago.. You make me sick, you really do.. Secondly: If you have a problem with me, Take it up with my Southern Brothers and Sister and Me. If you have a problem with one of us, you have a problem with ALL of us. For the record: I ain't racial, but all you people must be black or something, hating a history peice and all the soldiers that fought for THEIR freedom and THEIR states all in the name for THEIR Freedom and for their Family's freedom.. If you all even ping me to this topic again, don't even bother.. Like the photo says that I posted before.. Consider this a warning, at least I know that my State, Tennessee, has it's faults and that it's crap stinks, but sooner or later, we flushed the tolit and made a whole new and better society. So yeah, screw you all and leave the South alone.. 
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So you get to dictate when people shouldn't be effected by something anymore? And who says they are over it? If Germans started acting about WWII like some southerns do about the civil war and desegregation, I think the Jewish people would get real sensitive, real fast. See what happened if tomorrow the Germans decided to wear swastikas again and start claiming thing like WWII wasn't so bad, not all the concentration camps were use to kill people some just worked them really hard or that economics and German rights were the real cause of the war so we should all ignore that whole ethnic cleansing thing they did. And as Camilla put so well Quote: Apparently you can't let go either, considering that you insist on waving the flag of a country that no longer exists. You're are clinging to this for dear life but everyone else is supposed to let it go. How does this make sense to you? Quote By The_Fallen:
Wait weren't you supposed to be arguing that people like you are a different kind of southerner? You are supposed to the non-racist, all the good stuff about the south and none of the bad, guy. But you now want to be lumped in with all the southern people, so the ones that beat civil right protesters, the ones that lynched people, the ones that are racist as all hell at every opportunity, those are also your brothers and sisters and you want to stand by them. And here I thought the point of all this was those are a tiny minority you want nothing to do with. They seem less minor with every post you make. Quote By The_Fallen:
To go with your way of speaking, since it's completely un-insulating or derogatory. Hun, you aren't going to find a whiter person then me. But once again great job of proving; "I ain't racial". Because you absolutely must be a black person to find anything negative linked to a rebel flag. Thanks again for clarifying that sweet-cheeks. Quote By The_Fallen:
More threats of violence. Yep you are making southerners and their flag more and more appealing with every post. What next? Going to threaten to start shooting or lynching people if they don't get inline with how you think? Last Edit by:
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| #84 :: October 15th, 2010 @ 3:55 PM | |
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| #85 :: October 15th, 2010 @ 4:01 PM | |
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The_Fallen is fulfilling by all of his racist statements. At the risk of being called not Southern and not having Southern pride here we go. First off, The Confederate Flag is offensive to African-Americans. Just like the Swastika is offensive to people of Jewish heritage. It doesn't matter that it once stood for something more. It was changed because of people's actions and there is nothing we can do to change it back. Get over it! There will probably always be a negative connotation with it because of idiots like the KKK and The_Fallen.Secondly, I don't think that Quote: the loving kind JEWISH peopleare over it. Seriously there are still people alive that lived through that. We just don't have to deal with racism against Jews like we do racism against African-Americans on a daily basis. How many Nazis do you run into everyday? (don't answer that) I personally find it hilarious that you think you aren't racist, yet immediately accuse everyone you think of as idiots on here of being Quote: black or something. In the name of Texas I disown you. You are fulfilling the negative stereotype that the rest of the country believes about the South. Thanks for make us all seem like racists bigots. /bows out Now you will receive us.
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| #86 :: October 15th, 2010 @ 4:16 PM | |
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 I think it's funny how he thinks you HAVE to be black to be offended by it. I'm the whitest person around and I am offended by the Confederate flag and EVERYTHING it stands for. They were not fighting for their freedom, they were fighting for their right to take away freedom from African Americans!! The people in the south believed their slaves weren't even human, but that they were chattel! And guess what, I'm not even Jewish either, and I'm also offended by White Supremacist used Swastikas and the Holocaust! What a concept, someone being able to feel empathy for other people who have been wronged in the past. Being proud of your slave owning ancestors is not something to boast about. But then again, this kid is like 15, so I don't expect him to be all that mature or understanding of deeper concepts and emotions. (Not to offend all the 15 year old out there, trust me I know you're not all like that, I mean I wasn't when I was that age. It's just, he's upholding two bad stereotypes: racist southerner and idiot teenager)
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| #87 :: October 15th, 2010 @ 4:50 PM | |
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Ok, First thing's first...  Quote By @mirry: I don't see why people need to fly them at their houses/wear them/have them on their cars. Yes, it's a part of our history, but it's also extremely controversial. Many people use it in a racist way-- and while not all people do, there's still that association. You can appreciate your history without offending people. And Quote By @mirry: Other countries can fly their flags without being offensive because they did not create their flags during a war where they supported slavery. To the first one: Why do people put the Americain flag on cars/trucks, wear it, and fly at in thier houses? Is it wrong to fly an american "Union" flag from 1865 or before? In the late 1950s-60s The United Stars of America invaded Vietnam to aid in a nation's civil war that we should have never steped into. Those events were controversial. Yet, the Us flag can be flown over there without hardly anybody being offended. To the second: Yes, they did. But they also [u]used those same flags during the wartime when they supported the slavery of that country as well.[/i] Therefore, someone can associate those flags with slavery as well. Quote By @Faruzah: So don't you think moving forward instead of hanging onto relics of the past would be more progressive for our current diversity driven society? According to you, you're saying that anything before 1861-65, we should just dump it and stop using it? Great. Time to tear down the White House, and shread up the constatution. (They were both made pre-1865)  And also, shouldn't everybody just let the past... gooooo?
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| #88 :: October 15th, 2010 @ 4:54 PM | |
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| #89 :: October 15th, 2010 @ 4:57 PM | |
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| #90 :: October 15th, 2010 @ 4:57 PM | |
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| #91 :: October 15th, 2010 @ 4:58 PM | |
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  For realz? This conversation is actually happening?
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| #92 :: October 15th, 2010 @ 4:59 PM | |
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| #93 :: October 15th, 2010 @ 5:00 PM | |
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Quote By @The_Fallen:
Oh, really? Ha. Ha I say to you. I definitely won't be backing you up if someone wanted to take it up with me. I disown you from the south along with @Sanitera.
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| #94 :: October 15th, 2010 @ 5:02 PM | |
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| #96 :: October 15th, 2010 @ 5:16 PM | |
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 oooooooh my goodness Quote By @The_Fallen:
Shut up. Just shut up. Not all of us are as bitter and hateful as you. Thanks a whole bunch for perpetuating the stereotype of the stupid-ass racist southerner.  In hoc signo taurus vinces. Last Edit by:
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| #97 :: October 15th, 2010 @ 5:30 PM | |
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 I feel like it's a part of our heritage and shouldn't be pushed away. Good or bad. It should be kept around. And if someone's proud of it let them be proud. You don't have to like them and they weren't put on this earth to make you happy either. My great-great grandfather was a farmer who went to war to protect his family and rights. He didn't own a slave. He'd never even SEEN a slave. He was poor and so were his neighbors. But his state was at war and he felt an obligation to protect it. He lost his leg in the war and was taken prisoner. Almost died at Rock Island (prison camp). When the war was over he had to walk from Rock Island to his home on Sand Mountain (in north Alabama) on one leg and a stick. He went back to farming too. That's the kind of strength he had and that's what I'm proud of.
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| #98 :: October 15th, 2010 @ 5:37 PM | |
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Ohman thanks for the laugh!
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| #99 :: October 15th, 2010 @ 5:38 PM | |
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Is this real life?
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| #100 :: October 15th, 2010 @ 5:43 PM | |
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| #102 :: October 15th, 2010 @ 5:56 PM | |
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 No really, back onto the secondary subject of Southern Pride, before this digresses too far... Quote By @The_Fallen's Profile: ...if you agree with being a American, and Southern by the Grace Of God, comment me, and we'll be good friend. [...] I am a Christain and proud of it. First of all, "Southern by the grace of God?!" Are you really implying that God liked you so much better that he made you Southern, and loves someone else from California, Connecticut or Europe less than he loves you? Does your Christain [sic] religion not teach that all mean were created in God's image, and therefore as equals?? Or is Christainity different? If so, it is appropriately named. If you're going to have pride in your country, why not be patriotic as it is right now, with Whites, Blacks, Hispanics, Asians, etc., in its military? Even with the sentiments that @sugah expressed, I'd be proud of my Grandfather and his strength, not necessarily the war he fought in nor the cause he fought for. For the record, I live in Georgia, USA (further south than you!) and I'm Puerto Rican, which is to say I'm not Black.  Last Edit by:
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| #103 :: October 15th, 2010 @ 5:56 PM | |
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But seriously...I think you are a bit off personally. I have no problem myself with the rebel flag as long as it is used for the right reasons. But more often than not it is used for the wrong reasons. And bringing the Holocaust into this is just stupid. It is not the same. The Jewish people were mass slaughtered without a choice. Both the rebel and union army chose to go out and fight and kill each other. And they have NOT gotten over it. I met a holocaust survivor and he is still haunted by what happened. btw South Carolina representin' woot woot Art by Pie and meStyle-file - Dance with DestinyLast Edit by:
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| #104 :: October 15th, 2010 @ 5:59 PM | |
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| #105 :: October 15th, 2010 @ 6:01 PM | |
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 @Luxe omg I had never heard of that but that is hilarious! Art by Pie and meStyle-file - Dance with Destiny
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| #106 :: October 15th, 2010 @ 7:28 PM | |
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Quote By @The_Fallen: I ain't racial, but all you people must be black or something,  Regardless, even as a black person I want to know why my fears are supposed to be pushed aside, no one holding the American flag used to march past my grandmothers home in Mississippi. No one holding the American flag used to heckle my great grandparents, my grandmother, my grandfather and even my mother. So, you run a good P.R for why we shouldn't fear the Confederate flag, show the world the good southerners and maybe I'll stop being afraid. Quote By @Ace_Moneymaker: And also, shouldn't everybody just let the past... gooooo? "Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it." George Santayana Last Edit by:
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| #107 :: October 15th, 2010 @ 7:42 PM | |
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Quote By grelca:
I third said disowning from the South. I guess quite a bit of the south's population also got the wrong History lessons and were taught out of the wrong history books. Glad I'm a biology major.
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| #108 :: October 15th, 2010 @ 7:58 PM | |
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Quote By @The_Fallen:
As many other users have said, they didn't and aren't expected to yet. Non-Jewish Germans haven't "gotten over" it yet. There's an incredible amount of hate and guilt still present in their society. I come from a German-American family, and we haven't gotten over it. Quote: If you have a problem with me, I don't have a problem with you. I have a problem with what you're saying. Quote: I ain't racial, but all you people must be black or something  So many stereotypes all enforced in one sentence. Quote: all the soldiers that fought for THEIR freedom and THEIR states all in the name for THEIR Freedom and for their Family's freedom.. Fighting for one's freedom is admirable. However, fighting to keep someone else enslaved at the same time negates that. Quote: So yeah, screw you all and leave the South alone.. I was waiting for you to abandon your attempts at logic in favor of blind insults. Thanks for staying true to form. EDITED TO ADD A GIF Last Edit by:
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| #109 :: October 15th, 2010 @ 7:58 PM | |
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 Not sure if this has been brought up, but to those who keep saying "BUT IT WAS USED AS GEORGIA'S STATE FLAG UNTIL RECENTLY" I'd like to add emphasis to the pertinent part of that sentence: "BUT IT WAS USED AS GEORGIA'S STATE FLAG UNTIL RECENTLY" which means that it has been changed, which means that OTHER people found reason to take exception to it, which means that people are indeed offended by it. If you're going around wearing/sporting/flying the dixie flag, while you might not see it as a pro-racism/slavery nod, I guarantee that other people will. The fact that you don't really care if other people are offended by it (I say this because you don't have the sensitivity to remove the offensive items), makes me believe that either you like crap-stirring or are in fact supportive of the evil and disgusting connotations the Dixie Flag historically carries. Dance with Lobo
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| #110 :: October 15th, 2010 @ 9:42 PM | |
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...This thread is making me seriously consider supporting the Texas Secession movement just so that we're no longer associated with the rest of "the South." Ditto yo! Now you will receive us.
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| #111 :: October 15th, 2010 @ 10:58 PM | |
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Actually they do. You really can't fly a St George's flag here (at least not out of World Cup football season). It's just seen as racist. It was claimed by the British National Party many years ago (who want to make Britain "white") and...well it's just become a symbol of hatred. It makes me twitch to see it. Thanks SD for pointing me to a the history lesson though. I learnt a lot. I knew nothing about the civil war or what the Confederation flag could mean. Knowledge is always a good thing. Overall I think flags are a worrying thing. There's such a fine line between patriotic pride and something which is obnoxious. I think I'm happy to skip flying a flag and voice my patriotism with words rather than a with a vague symbol with more than one meaning. But then I'm English and I have a whole love load of different history to consider! Last Edit by:
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| #112 :: October 15th, 2010 @ 11:14 PM | |
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Nice to see I'm not the only one loling at this dim bulb. Thank GOD his (her's?) view point, though shared by others, is slowly dying out of existence.
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| #113 :: October 16th, 2010 @ 2:12 AM | |
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@The_Fallen Ok... this picture is what I'm thinking about doing to you right now...  @Vennix @grelca @Sanitera I will not disown him from the south... He's my brother.(And I mean real brother. As in, his blood is mine as well, or vice-versa) If you guys are truly from the south, then you already know that the south is known for our good hospitality... So will you guys forgive him? I guess he was just flustered and everything about how people were attacking our flag. He dosen't hate black people(and neither do I), but at the same time I know that we both don't like being accused of being racist for sharing our heratage. Quote By @missatralissa: The people in the south believed their slaves weren't even human, but that they were chattel! ...Ookeaay... So I guess the North never even owned a single slave before the 1860s, then... Not to mention about how everybody imagined that Black people never were able to go to the same schools or even ride in the same bus as white people back in the 1960s... What book did I read that in? *scratches head in confusion* Speaking of slavery and racism... Why is it that such a beautiful flag needs to be associated with racism/Slavery? I agree, the KKK are just a bunch of Idiots(Super Idiots) that just ruined the image of what the flag stands for... But why just associate the "Dixie Cross" with just that meaning? Do you think that everytime a British person looks at an American flag, they think that the person that's flying it hates Great Britain? We rebelled from them, and we created that flag during the war. Does that mean that the American flag could symbolize the American "Hatred" over Britain's rule? Also, back to slavery... I wanna get one thing straght. Did you know that the Spanish also imprisioned African Slaves? Not to mention the Portuguese as well? There were Native American slaves and even White American slaves. They wern't ALL black slaves... (They sure didn't teach that in the history books at school...) Shoot, Africa was the one that started up the whole Slavery thing. They were the ones that sold America all of the black slaves that came over here(Thier own people). Don't believe me? Well, just look here , here , and finally here So if anybody that's angery about how the South owned slaves when the North didn't, Or about how the rebel flag "supports" slavery... Then they've got to take that up with where it all started from: Africa. The Rebel Flag, AKA the Dixie Cross, AKA The Stars and Bars, AKA the Confederate Battle Flag itself Has NOTHING to do with slavery. The Stupid KKK (Kooky Knuckle-head Knights) were the ones that ruined it's glory. All in all... Fly the flag for and with the pride of the south. And as for the southern by the grace of God part... It saying that any different than the whole United States having "In God We Trust" printed on every kind of currency in the country? Does that mean that the U.S. as a whole trusts God more than any other nation since we are the only ones that have that printed on our money? Edit: Whew... that was really long-winded post that I had to get out.  Last Edit by:
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| #114 :: October 16th, 2010 @ 2:40 AM | |
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Quote By @Ace_Moneymaker: Speaking of slavery and racism... Why is it that such a beautiful flag needs to be associated with racism/Slavery? I agree, the KKK are just a bunch of Idiots(Super Idiots) that just ruined the image of what the flag stands for... But why just associate the "Dixie Cross" with just that meaning? Because that's the flag that they use when the gather, not just for their get togethers but for their acts of evil. See, I don't think it's the slavery thing, but rather the fact that when acts of evil were committed that's the flag they chose to fly. If I may use my family again my grandmother never say them carrying the American flag, but the Dixie Cross. When my mother was harassed he and his girlfriend were waving/wearing the Dixie Cross. Quote By @Ace_Moneymaker: Do you think that every time a British person looks at an American flag, they think that the person that's flying it hates Great Britain? We rebelled from them, and we created that flag during the war. Does that mean that the American flag could symbolize the American "Hatred" over Britain's rule? Well no, that's a bit more removed, see the revolution happened in 1776, 234 years ago. The Civil War ended in 1865, 145 years ago. Let's give a bit of perspective on that, the oldest living person is 114 years old. Now, the civil rights movement "ended" in 1968/71, 42/39 years ago. My mother has just turned 40, and during the KKK's highest moments, they waved the Dixie Cross. It wasn't a billion years ago, it wasn't just 100 years ago, it happens to this day. If you want it to be seen in a good light you've got your work cut out for you. As for right now, for me, it's a symbol of bigotry and ignorance. @Ace_Moneymaker Remember when you said that the extremist Muslims had ruined Islam for you so that meant the good ones should show that they're good? That's what I think of this whole thing. You and @The_Fallen prove to us that the Dixie Cross shouldn't be associated with racism. Last Edit by:
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| #115 :: October 16th, 2010 @ 8:01 AM | |
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 This is a topic that really hits home for me. To make a VERY long story short, my high school's nickname was the Rebels. It had been since the school's inception years and years ago. My friend Michael played football and basketball from middle school all through his senior year. He was very proud of his ties to the school's athletics, and as a sign of that pride had a confederate flag in the back of his truck. This flag was there for his junior and senior years in high school. Not a single person of any race cared that he displayed this flag...everyone knew why it was there and it was never an issue. Michael graduated high school, married his high school sweetheart and was blessed with the birth of twins. He never took the flag down. Six months later he, along with his wife and twins, were driving down the road when four black men, ages ranging late teens to mid twenties, saw him and "took offense" to the flag being in his truck. They were so "offended" that they shot him dead and drove away. They didn't bother to even ask him about the flag or ask that he take it down. I know that this is an extreme case, but the point remains the same...everyone is going to have a different view on what is and is not classified as racism. After this happened there was a huge racial divide in our school system...and despite the racial tension, two of Michael's friends from school, both black, were pallbearers at his funeral. This goes to show that anyone who knew Michael knew that his intentions were completely harmless, and if people didn't get so easily offended by things they don't understand, my friend would still be here today watching his babies grow up. 
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| #116 :: October 16th, 2010 @ 11:11 AM | |
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I mean just woooww.. I know my History, I know I ain't a rascist, y'all are the ones who's showing true colors.. And besides, you can't "disown" the SON OF THE SOUTH, Y'ALL. And you know what? In MY Religion, I am tought that ALL people are created the same, no one is higher above others. So yeah, you really hit a nerve there, so do me a favor: Dig up the Ol' Confederate Soldiers, bring them to life, and ask why they fought.. Oh wait, you can't... because you all ain't God.. No matter how hard you try, YOU WILL NEVER be a god. So yeah, if you can do that, I'll believe every word you tell me, but seeing as you and I cannot, I will still continue to be the Son Of The South, and no one can "disown" me from that. Glad you all are a bunch of butt-headed stuck-up yanks, have a great day and to let you all know, I forgive you, ping me once more you all will be blocked.. Have a great day. Your friend, and the Souths Son, The_Fallen. 
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| #117 :: October 16th, 2010 @ 11:20 AM | |
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  @The_Fallen Every bad stereotype about the South is because of you. Congrats. * * * * * * I saw the constellations reveal themselves one star at a time.
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| #118 :: October 16th, 2010 @ 11:21 AM | |
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God, that's awful- and counterproductive when you think about it. If you take offense to something that you think is racist, then you're only going to increase racial tension and violence by harming the person with the flag. What a stupid reason to kill someone. @Ace_Moneymaker People associate the flag with racism because many racists have used it to promote racism. I haven't ever seen the flag used in any other context (though I'm sure there are people that fly it with good intentions); therefore, I associate it with bigotry. People can only rely on their experience when it comes to symbolism. A symbol is just an image until you give it meaning. The Christian cross, for example, is really only a pair of lines. However, as a symbol it can represent redemption, sacrifice, and the cruelty of man. Your brother hasn't really helped himself by being an ass and blocking me because I disagreed with him. There is no "attacking" going on here (or at least, there wasn't until he started being very rude); this is a debate about whether or not the Confederate flag is considered offensive, and yes, there are people who think it's offensive. And I think saying "You must be black" really did a good job of convincing everyone here that he's prejudiced.
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| #119 :: October 16th, 2010 @ 11:44 AM | |
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 @The_Fallen, I don't understand how you can say you believe all of mankind is equal and then tell us we must be Black or Yankees for disagreeing with you. Since you can't block me, can you explain yourself a bit better?? Last Edit by:
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| #120 :: October 16th, 2010 @ 12:03 PM | |
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 it must run in the family. also yes I am totally black for being intolerant towards blatant racism. y'all best be gettin' out of here before the good old southern boys come on in and kick yer asses because typing out a southern dialect is totally productive and conveys your heritage. I guess that means I can start typing out a new york dialect. I AM A YANKEE AFTER ALL, AS WELL AS A TRUE AMERICAN~      Last Edit by:
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