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#1 :: November 2nd, 2010 @ 7:04 PM
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Recently, there was an article in Time in which it said schools are considering putting ads on campus. The ads are going to be everywhere, buses, lockers even school permission slips!

Is this a good idea? Personally I don't want to see a HUGE ad right in front of my face every morning....but if the economy does not improve, we have to accept that fact.

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#2 :: November 2nd, 2010 @ 7:05 PM
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i dont ever go for ads, so idk if they would be worth it /shrug




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I think they would divert attention from actual events and posters for things going on around schools. Also, don't we have enough things pressuring us in high school?

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@primarily, totally didnt think of that but epic point



#6 :: November 2nd, 2010 @ 7:38 PM
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I agree with Primarily. I wouldn't want to see ads either, I think the idea is quite absurd. Also, don't listen to Kumos, it's a group everyone in it is free to ping.


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I wouldn't mind if it kept my teachers employed, but I'd rather not see it on my permission slips etc. =/



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Nah, if they don't want to be pinged, they shouldn't join the group. I get pinged by everyone for Riki's group, anyone is free to ping it, like I said. Just don't ping the group to things like this, it's better just to ping groups to boards where contests are being held or something like that. People will get irritated with you, even though it isn't your fault.


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#10 :: November 2nd, 2010 @ 8:01 PM
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#11 :: November 2nd, 2010 @ 8:37 PM
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@pandas795 With the amount of peer pressure, and advertising pressure already on kids day to day outside of school, I'd say no. That's a bad idea. School needs to be about school. It's a place outside of the day to day bombardment of TV and Radio, and Newspapers, magazines, etc. It should remain that way. Who needs that kind of distraction, especially with name brands plastered all over clothes already.

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Too commercialized!



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#13 :: November 2nd, 2010 @ 10:33 PM
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If it were for something worthwhile like suicide help lines, tutoring programs, and so on maybe it would be a good idea. I don't feel like school should be the place for the next greatest thing in mascara to be pushed at.


#14 :: November 2nd, 2010 @ 10:57 PM
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I don't see the problem. It's just an ad. As long as it isn't anything huge or flashy it's good that the school is getting money for them. I already see ads at football games or in the school gym.
Ads are just one of those things you grow to be immune to.



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@pandas795 well it depends on what the ads are.
I say no junk food ads, nothing inappropriate like condom ads.
No sanitary product ads in primary schools.

(I mean you don't want kids asking questions too early.)


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Better ads than something else. It's mighty harmless.


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@pandas795 Umm...no. Except for everyone ranting about everyday it's gonna be garbage everywhere of it since people like to mess with it and just throw it everywhere. Plus you shouldn't have ads like that forced on the students o_O

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It really depends on the ads and where the funds go.

Most people do not like advertising but it's a part of life, you aren't going to escape it. If schools can ensure students get better educations and teachers get better paychecks by throwing some ads on a school bus, I see no reason not to...



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#19 :: November 3rd, 2010 @ 2:06 PM
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Quote By JESSYTA:
It really depends on the ads and where the funds go.


That's pretty much my take on it too.

I'm going to use my university campus as an example, just because my little backwoods-of-nowhere elementary and high schools never had any ads at all.

Good ads: I never had a problem with posters in the hall, with the Bacardi logo at the bottom of the giant swimming pool that they funded for us, or with the little logos selling stuff in our free agendas and year books. Par for the course really. The posters kept different school clubs and programs running, while the printed logos and pool sponsorship got us useful perks without costing the student body more money.

Bad ads: my school went crazy with getting corporate funding after the pool thing went so well. They sold their soul to Coca-cola for a contract that dictated that, aside from Tim Hortons coffee (because this is Canada after all), only Coke beverages of any type could be sold at any place on campus. The rules were so ridiculously strict that there were stories about kids in the dorms getting pestered by "Coke Ambassadors" just for buying Pepsi. Then there were the giant video screen ads that they put in over the urinals and on the backs of bathroom stall doors, which screamed out commercials for food, tampons and Plan B...I can't even begin to explain how annoying those were.

The students voted to terminate Coke's contract when it came up for renewal and the video screen ads were so hated that they disappeared in less than a week. The school of course complained about how it would lose millions of dollars that it "needed in order to provide the best education possible"...funny, I thought that was what my tuition was for? Besides, it was pretty rich to hear them dog about how desperately they needed the money when their current projects included indoor waterfalls and a truly hideous and in no way necessary cosmetic renovation of a library



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i want to agree with the notion that it depends on what the sponsorship is funding. i guess it would make some sense to have the ''grass roots'' poster showing the need of the school and where the funding is going alongside the actual contributions so that the public is made aware of exactly what the money is going toward -- but maybe that's too elementary of a suggestion, honestly.


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[They sold their soul to Coca-cola for a contract that dictated that, aside from Tim Hortons coffee (because this is Canada after all), only Coke beverages of any type could be sold at any place on campus.


from what i understand of it, this is a rather common contractual agreement on behalf of coke (and it's counterpart, pepsi). a restaurant, campus, stadium, or sponsored affiliate is not allowed to carry both products at one time. now i can't speak for them, i just wanted to say that in the variety of places i've worked that contained a beverage agreement, it is contracted that you only supply those products and NOT the competitor.

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Besides, it was pretty rich to hear them dog about how desperately they needed the money when their current projects included indoor waterfalls and a truly hideous and in no way necessary cosmetic renovation of a library


i absolutely agree. i suppose some could argue that the beautification of a campus is relative to extraneous events (weddings, fundraisers, corporate activity) that could bring about more outside money to the campus -- but i feel it's quite a stretch. lighting a dimly-lit sidewalk through campus is one thing, building an extravagant waterfall is entirely another.






#21 :: November 3rd, 2010 @ 3:08 PM
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Quote By @Spunky:
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Obviously someone doesn't see how 'personal' groups work.


As far as ads, why not? You're going to be influenced by ads anyway, especially in the USA. Better it be blatant instead of subliminal. Besides, if your school is getting paid for the ads, maybe the level of education will go up as well?


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#22 :: November 3rd, 2010 @ 4:50 PM
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I can imagine it, seeing as I've been brainwashed by adverts for most of my life. x_X;

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#24 :: November 4th, 2010 @ 11:44 PM
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most high schools have advertising already..vending machines of coke/pepsi/gatorade/doritos/etc


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The person right above me already said it, but there are already ads in schools. Schools, and even individual teachers contact "sponsors" to get the money they need.
The economy is in a VERY bad place right now, and while there are evils to advertising, there are benefits too.


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Quote By @Scarlet_Fever:
nothing inappropriate like condom ads.
No sanitary product ads in primary schools.

(I mean you don't want kids asking questions too early.)


I disagree with this statement. Personally, I'd find ads of this nature to be a positive thing, to some extent. The fact is, kids are going to be having sex, ages are getting lower and lower. I mean, I dunno how I'd feel about it in a kindergarten classroom, but for older kids, I think it's a good thing. Education is the best way to prevent illnesses and unwanted pregnancies. Even if it's technically an ad, it's still a good thing, because it's showing kids that condoms ARE important. And yes, we want kids to ask questions, esp. in a school setting. I'd much rather have my (future) child ask a teacher or parent questions about sex and condoms versus kids on the play structure.


I forgot to talk about the "no sanitary products in primary school" thing. Why? I got my period at age 10. I had no idea what it was, and I was so scared that I was dying. Girls are getting their periods younger, I don't see the point in sheltering them from biological, and inevitable facts of life.

That kind of went off into a different direction than the original topic.
Ads aren't the worst thing imaginable, like lots of people seem to think. If they're helping the school pay for better teachers, supplies, etc, why is that bad? All your kid needs to see is a picture of some silly product. I think that's a better price to pay than increasing school fees. The economy in America isn't doing that great, it needs all the help it can get.

Honestly, it's probably going to happen anyways. Ads are everywhere. Just ignore them.



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Our high school had ads, so I can give some first-hand insight. Our school had funding support from Cola-cola, and our sports program was sponsered by Chic-fil-a (For those who don't know what chi-fil-a is, as I'm not usre how wide-spread they are, check here, it's basically "healthier" chicken sandwichs, friend in peanut oil), and to a much smaller extent, Hardee's. These all advertised to the studnets in different ways.

For Cola-cola, this meant their soda machines in our school, and we exclusively sold cola-cola products at events for drinks, aside from things like coffee and hot chocolate. (The middle schools in the township had this set up with Coca-cola, as well.) Some parents raised a fuss, and they started putting in more juice machines and less soda machines (the juice still isn't great for you, but it is somewhat better), but it's still all Coca-cola brand. Basically, the only form of advertisement here was the images on the machines and the brand availability, which I supposed never bothered me much. Kids see the same things when they shop at Wal-mart. It wasn't really forced.

What was forced, however, was Chic-fil-a. This was incredibly annoying, and happened during all of my four years in high school. We were lucky enough to have the technology to have video announcements every day in every classroom. In the middle of the announcements about band call-outs, club meetings, and deadlines for scholarships, every day, without fail, we would be forced to sit through a Chic-fil-a commercial. Sitting through this, I can now say I have a big problem with it. I don't mind the pictures/billboards/what have you- that was what the third company I mentioned, Hardee's, did. They had a billboard in our stadium, and one in our varsity gym, and that was the extent. I don't even mind the branding that Coca-cola did. (Chic-fil-a did this was well, it was always offered at the concessions stands at sporting events.) A daily commercial took it too far. Kids are highly influenced by what they see on television, more so than just an image on a wall in passing. The moving colors and sound lodge into the brain subconsciously, and you start craving chic-fil-a, which for the record, I used to dislike quite a bit. As someone who experienced seeing advertisements, I could care less if you put a picture up or even sell your product (within reason) in a school. Just don't take it too far- for example with commercials.


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i'm not saying chick-fil-a is a great fast food restaurant, however i really feel strongly that it's much better than a lot of the other options in so far as the fresh products they offer. i suppose if a school has to be seduced by a corporate fast food chain, chick-fil-a would definitely be one i'd agree with. however i just don't understand why these corporations don't take the advantages they are given in these schools to work out (and subsequently teach) a method of healthier choices -- such as never offering fries as a side item at schools, or never offering soda as a drink option. i really don't understand why someone isn't using these avenues as a way to experiment with the public -- perhaps with tax or other governmental incentives?






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well, it depends on what age group we are talking about-high school and up-go for it, midle school and under-no





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well, i would assume that the ads in the schools will be geared towards the students, and i don't believe they should be advertised to younger children because it is wrong to manipulate their decisions






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I suppose I can see both sides on this. Provided they're ads for things geared toward students, I see no problem. My college campus frequently has ads for concerts geared toward college-aged individuals, as well as things like music/arts festivals, student work programs, and programs students can sign up for to receive discounts.

If, on the other hand, they're simply ads for various companies like Lays, Bordon, etc... I don't think it should be done.

Now, if a company sponsors the school, naturally there's going to be advertisement for them. I don't think that's wrong in and of itself, since the company provided a service for the school, but I don't like the idea of simply filling a school with ads.

I have no moral basis to this, however. As long as none of the ads are for anything harmful to the students, I see no moral wrongs beyond done.

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