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Sex Education...yahhh or nahhh?
| #1 :: June 22nd, 2011 @ 7:13 AM | |
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Sex Ed. Would you rather children in schools be taught to not have sex at all and not even discuss anything sexual because it may "encourage" sexual behavior? Or do you think kids ought to be taught proper ways to go about sex and sexual actions. In my opinion, I think it should be very much required for proper sexual education to be taught in schools. As pre-teens and teens go through puberty, their bodies are raging meatsacks of hormones that practically force them into the dangerous world of sex. Society is so damn hypocritical in the fact that everything blares SEX, yet everyone is so scared to teach its safety in schools. I mean, stupid, naive, hormone-filled teens will have sex if they want to, no matter what they are told. Might as well try to teach them how to go about things the right way... I was 15 when I first had sex, and although some may seem it a bit young, at least I was damn-well prepared. My parents were always very open with me and they knew they could never possibly hide me from anything. And, they knew that they better teach me the correct things that I needed to know instead of letting me learn things on my own from who knows where. Hell, I had two older brothers that told me the weirdest crap...if my parents didn't direct my correctly, who knows what stupid things I could have done when first having sex. Yes, I can understand that it is WAY awkward when it comes to those parent-child sextalks, but would you rather let your child out in the big scary world knowing nothing just because you were too much of a wuss to TALK about something? That to me just seems selfish... Man up, grow a pair, and do the right thing. I kinda got carried away with rambling, but yeah, lemme hear what you guys think. 
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| #2 :: June 22nd, 2011 @ 8:10 AM | |
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I never understood why some kids had to leave the room when the lady with the plastic penis, and packet of condoms came in  I dont understand why a parent wouldnt want thier child to learn basic sexual health. I personally dont think it encourages anyone to go out and just have sex. Not everyone is ready for sex soon as they learn what a condom is. I think its great that in this day and age, we get tought such things in school. We may of had a giggle with our friends at the time, but I think its a necessity.
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| #3 :: June 22nd, 2011 @ 1:23 PM | |
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 I first had sex ed in 4th grade. Not all parents are comfortable letting their 9-year-olds learn about that kind of stuff. That's fine, it is pretty young, I would say no one in my class had even hit puberty yet. We had sex-ed again in middle school, and that was more focused on safe sex. I had it again in high school religion class (I went to catholic high school), with much more in depth about STDs and different forms of birth control and all the sordid little details that no one really wants to think about. Was it necessary for me to take sex ed 3 times in my life? Probably not. But this was once at each of three different schools. Obviously each wanted to make sure that students knew this information. Because some parents never talk to their kids about this kind of stuff. Mine certainly didn't. And without this material covered in school some kids might never learn the basics of sexual health and the importance of safe sex. I don't think it encourages sexual behavior. Even my catholic high school was able to recognize that teenagers are probably going to have sex no matter what you say, so you need to give them the tools and knowledge they need to make good decisions. Last Edit by:
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| #4 :: June 22nd, 2011 @ 6:17 PM | |
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@itgis;
I agree completely that people will have sex if they want to so you should teach them more about it. I went to a Roman Catholic High School and our sex education class was basically: "I will show you how to use a TAMPON (not a condom) in this water bottle" and "If you have sex ever you will die, here are pictures so you can see how you will die." It was mortifying. I think the worst part was that our teacher was getting married later that year and told us she was a virgin and no one believed her and we stopped trusting her after that. My life motto is that you can do whatever you want - just don't hurt anyone in the process. For people to not hurt anyone during sex they need to be prepared and fully informed about what will happen so that they can tell their partner ahead of time exactly what they want and are interested in. I don't care how old they are. My female friends and I were talking about having sex when we were 13 (at 20 though I am still a 'virgin') and I would not have been surprised if kids at that age did have sex. Heck I knew a boy who had sex at age 11. Yes they are children, but they'll do it anyways. Might as well tell them about condoms (not birth control as that does hurt someone, horses specifically) so they don't get pregnant and need to have an abortion.
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| #5 :: June 22nd, 2011 @ 11:57 PM | |
| itgis Funky Forum Feli 162 Posts 20 Achievements |
@ ERANDIR; That's really awesome that your schools all did that, and that's how it should be. @Herbivore; ._.; In no way does my vagina resemble a waterbottle... But you saying how you knew a boy who had sex at 11 reminds me of this documentary I saw about Lil Wayne and how he was all "I first had sex when I was 11... The girl was 13. I had a big a** d***! -lilwaynegiggle- Me and her are still tight today..." xD Honestly, it has nothing to do with age. As soon as toddlers discover that if they touch it and it feels good, they're touching themselves all over the place all the time. They're just too under-developed to do much more than that... When it boils down to it, were animals, and what do animals do? Eat, sleep, and have sex. It's instinctual nature. I kind of want someone to put in some opposite opinions. Hahaha.
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| #6 :: June 24th, 2011 @ 5:33 PM | |
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I think it should be illegal for a parent to withhold sexual education from their children. I DON'T agree that a parent has the right to do whatever they want with their children. Children don't belong to their parents. They have a right to an education!
I'm totally biased, as I teach safe sex to young people, and I'm on a sexual health IAG van every thursday, so I'm the girl giving out the free condoms to teenagers. But damn right, I'd rather they were having safe sex then unsafe sex! It's totally bonkers to try and stop teens learning about sex. Teaching abstinance? Fine. Teaching abstinance only? Not fine at ALL. Teenagers will have sex, that is just the way things are. It's great that most wait, but it's stupid to try and cling on to the false belief that *all* of them will. 420 Friendly ♥ |
| #7 :: June 26th, 2011 @ 11:09 PM | |
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| #8 :: June 27th, 2011 @ 12:51 AM | |
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 Anyways.... kids are still going to do it whether or not they get taught about sex. So why not teach them how to protect themselves properly & the consequences of sex? What the kids do with the information they're given is their decision. Also, some parents are quite uncomfortable with talking about sex with their kids... & that's where sex ed comes in. The information we receive from sex ed is useful, it's the way they present it which makes some people not take it seriously. Got a confession/secret you need to get out? Tell me anonymously on Tumblr! Last Edit by: User not found (1): WAY 6/27/11 - 12:51:33 am
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| #9 :: June 27th, 2011 @ 3:46 PM | |
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@Solovei That's exactly what I wanted to say about safe sex for LGBT youth. Unfortunately, as soon as somebody proposes it, it's the same old bullcrap about ~SCHOOLS TEACHING CHILDREN TO BE GAY!~ and nobody learns anything. I think that there should probably be more public campaigns for information about safe LGBT sex, since schools will never ever teach it.
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| #10 :: June 28th, 2011 @ 2:50 AM | |
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Yes. I actually think it should be a lot more graphic than it is- or at least for the ages where people start experimenting. (For that matter- I think drives ed should be more graphic, but that's another story) I had a health class this year as part of a requirement to graduate (I'M FREEE!!!!!!) and it was a complete joke. Not only was just about everything important cut out (IE, safe sex practices- ABSTINENCE PEOPLE!!! ABSTINENCE IS THE ONLY WAY! -headdesk-) but the consequences were not explicit enough. Okay, so we did see a woman give birth without everything blurred out. But really- showing us pictures were nothing is identifiable? Yeah. Don't show the truth. Good job, public school system. Really, I learned more in bio than I did in health :/
Then the also showed us a video about attack... conveniently leaving out that there is more than one kind of sexual assult... and just because you have a penis doesn't mean you are safe.... -sigh- Damn those social stigma! All of the girls freaked out after that, where I'm sitting back and going 'yeah... and? Where's the rest of the story? attack doesn't only happen to women you know.' It made me want to show them this horrifyingly realistic story where a a middle aged woman attacks a young man. And that's not even getting into the biases of the teacher. I wish I had that class with my friend Kayla. She would have made it fun.
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| #11 :: June 29th, 2011 @ 7:02 PM | |
| Reynbowz Blabbermouth  592 Posts 284 Achievements |
 I knew the US was Puritanistic, but I had never realized just how much more than Canada it was until reading everyone's responses here.Duh. Obviously it is necessary. They can rant and rave until they're blue in the face but when their 15 year old daughters get pregnant due to lack of informedness they have theirselves to blame. But of course the majority/all of this forum is going to be pro-sex ed so we're mostly preaching to the choir here. This debate is too one-sided so I will try to add some extremism and see if I can get some people to actually disagree ( i.e., debate ). I will describe all my dissatisfactions with my country's provincial policies on sex ed and how sex ed in my schools has failed me. The only thing I learned from sex ed in school is that gay people who get married make the personal choice of what to do with their last names. Because I personally asked, after class. Well... thanks, I guess. ( hopefully ) CONTROVERSY AHOY: We should not "wait" until kids turn x age to teach them sex ed.
We should not restrict our teachings to "common practices".
Masturbation should be promoted.
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| #12 :: June 30th, 2011 @ 12:33 AM | |
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@Reynbowz Ditto on the masturbation thing. Any time when I was younger (around 6th grade) and started to explore my body, I would make myself stop because I had this idea that it was wrong, even though no one had told me so! When the topic came up with my mom she said it was 'gross' and if you masturbate then your future husband won't be able to satisfy you. If my boyfriend had not encouraged me to explore my body on my own, we would have probably turned to sex sooner to ease these urges (we didn't do anything sexual until after 6 months, and didn't have vaginal sex until after two years. We've been together for almost five years now
 ) and I would be one of those women who don't know anything about their bodies and can never orgasm. Sex ed in school didn't even mention masturbation...they talked about wet dreams, but they never actually said the word orgasm so when I was first learning about it I thought it was like wetting the bed or something. Kids need to learn all they can and prepare themselves, and be given resources too. My high school talked briefly about birth control but didn't tell us how to get it, so it was sort of useless.
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| #13 :: July 8th, 2011 @ 12:07 AM | |
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I actually believed that the school was teaching us plently during sex-ed. Then I started spending a bit more time with my friend's other clique, and learned much more from them in a much shorter amount of time than I ever learned from classes. Googleing some of the things that I've heard from the other clique, at first just to double-check the things I've heard, I ended up learning WAY more. My mom explained to me that the school classes were probably just intended to scratch the surface, but whether it was the case or not, I believe that students should be taught to whatever extent possible so that when they eventually do come up with more elaborate questions and concerns, they do not have to rely on the internet or other students for the answers that they need.
@Nyithra XD I thought the same thing when learning about wet dreams in school. I didn't actually understand untill my boyfriend explained it to me. And I learned everything I know about masturbation from the internet and 1000 ways to die. Don't use carrots (haha). @Reynbowz Can you clarify the term "Common Practices"? Do you mean hetero-sexual relationships? Or are you reffering to the exclusion of fetishes? I will go into the zoo. |
| #14 :: July 8th, 2011 @ 12:38 AM | |
| Reynbowz Blabbermouth 592 Posts 284 Achievements |
Quote By @SuperKawaii:Don't use carrots (haha). Wait what? Please explain FORTHWITH. Quote By @SuperKawaii: Can you clarify the term "Common Practices"? Do you mean hetero-sexual relationships? Or are you reffering to the exclusion of fetishes? Either/or. I'm talking about anythign that isn't "mainstream". So that would also include non-hetero sex, hetero anal, fetishes, etc. I figure it's still sex, and that it's irresponsible to exclude education on one thing because it's "uncommon" because that's the reasoning for excluding LGBTQ+ info which we of course realize is wrong. I agree with you when you say that "students should be taught to whatever extent possible," as there are plenty of meek kids out there who simply WON'T Google it, and will never know, and who will end up in all kinds of crap because of it. I've met kids like this. I have... concern for them. Last Edit by:
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| #15 :: July 8th, 2011 @ 9:37 AM | |
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@Reynbowz
Sorry, I thought everyone would have seen or heard of that episode (which is, I realize, an irrational thought). On the t.v. show, 1000 Ways to Die, a girl died by masturbating with a carrot. I forget how it killed her. "that's the reasoning for excluding LGBTQ+ info" That never occured to me, but it's a very good point. If it were taught in the same manner as other sexual topics, perhaps there would be less discriminiation towards theese groups over time, or at least a better understanding of them. I will go into the zoo. |
| #16 :: July 8th, 2011 @ 10:06 AM | |
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@itgis
I promote sex-ed. Not abstinence sex-ed, of course. Teachers should promote abstinence has the only 100% way not to get pregnant or get STDs but it's not the only thing they should teach. Condoms should be available because let's face it. Teenagers are going to have sex regardless of what adults tell them. It might as well be safe sex than unsafe sex. Sex-ed should be more graphic in every aspect of it. Gay sex should also be talked about too because even if there are only 3 LGBT people in the school, they still matter. I know some right wings will say "THEY'RE TEACHING YOUNG KIDS TO BE IMMORAL AND GAY" but nobody should listen to them. Puberty should be talked about from a young age but the graphic sex-ed should start at middle school. I know too many 13 year olds who have sex. Quote: |
| #17 :: July 8th, 2011 @ 11:51 AM | |
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| #18 :: July 9th, 2011 @ 4:47 PM | |
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I had sex education taught to me in school. They handed out permission slips so if the parents didn't want them learning about it school, they could decide it. Maybe they wanted to teach their kid themselves. I say give the parent the option of how their child learns, as long as they learn it, it's fine with me and not learning in some horrible way.
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| #19 :: July 9th, 2011 @ 9:48 PM | |
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I recall learning something in my Psychology class about this matter: The more teens know of sex--the actual facts like they teach in schools--the more likely they will practice sex safely. Real awareness is extremely important, and not just the fanfics that a teen might sneak a look at while their parents aren't home... Yip! *Shuffles about* |
| #20 :: July 10th, 2011 @ 3:00 PM | |
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I believe my school did a fairly good job in the sex-ed deparments. They explained to us all of the risks involved in not only sex but other sexual behaviors. Pregnancy, STD's (excuse me I mean STI's), etc then went onto teaching about all of the birthcontrols you could get, their effectivness, side efects, etc. Of course they premoted Abstinence as the only 100% garentee of not getting pregnant and that even if you're on the pill you should use condoms because of human error/STD's. All in all I believe we were well informed
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| #21 :: July 22nd, 2011 @ 3:57 PM | |
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Sex ed was my favorite subject in school. Please don't take it away. ;-;
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| #22 :: July 25th, 2011 @ 9:59 PM | |
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| #23 :: July 27th, 2011 @ 2:20 PM | |
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I think sex ed should definitely be included in schools as long as it's decent. I mean, sure, it's the parent's job, but the parent doesn't always want to. And kids have the right to be informed, especially if they don't know what they're getting into if they... -cough-
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| #24 :: July 27th, 2011 @ 2:34 PM | |
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 I think Sex Ed should be in school. People should know these things once they hit puberty.I first had Sex Ed in 5th grade (they probably had it before middle school so everything wasn't as shocking when we got there), but we were only taught things about our own gender (ie, girls were taught about girl part, boys about boy parts). It really wasn't all that surprising to me though; when you have a sister seven years older than you, you tend to known things earlier that you should. XD I had Sex Ed again in 6th grade, and will have it again this year. ._.
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| #25 :: July 28th, 2011 @ 6:05 PM | |
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think that guys have a right to know about the female reproductive system as much as girls have the right to know about males at an early age. I had sex ed in 5th grade, and they had to separate the guys from the girls; basically everyone around me was like, horrified by what they saw and I was just like, seriously? You guys are this uneducated? I really think that sex shouldn't remain obscurity. I mean, sex is the reason why we still exist today.  |
| #26 :: August 1st, 2011 @ 11:06 AM | |
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I think that sex education is really important to have in schools. I'm not talking about Abstinence-only sex education, which has been proven that it doesn't work. I think that it's important for teens to know how to protect themselves from STIs and unplanned pregnancies.
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| #27 :: August 2nd, 2011 @ 1:42 AM | |
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Definitely yeah. No way in heck does not talking about not give kids urges as you said. They're bound to do it some time, and better they know the risks and how to use proper precautions then not. Any parents uncomfortable with it, I'm sure will be much less so if their child gets pregnant or catches an STD. It's awkward for kids, but I'm sure they won't regret it in later life~.
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| #28 :: August 23rd, 2011 @ 11:43 PM | |
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 @itgisI could say about a million things here, but I will try and keep it short. I believe that children should be taught of the consequences of having sex before they are legally an adult and such. I believe all the children should be shown the consequences (see the effects of certain STDs, read actual stories that happened, and the like. However, my one issue is the fact that the same exact Sex Education system is taught about a million times every year to the students, and eventually, they stop listening. I should know. After the fourth or fifth year of the same thing, I was sick of listening to all of it. It is necessary, just not everything is so necessary it (THE EXACT SAME THING) should be taught for six years in a row.
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| #29 :: August 24th, 2011 @ 12:43 AM | |
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 I grew up in a conservative area in Texas (which basically encompasses everywhere but its capital Austin, weird I know) and they went on a strictly scientific part of sex-ed in bio in high school; the health ed class had mostly an abstinence-only program and was trying its hardest to be sort of open minded. (Ya, just like the alcohol edu thing too, where all the questions assumed I was an underage drinker... wtf.) The parts of the courses regarding sex were scanty and that was basically it (though they had puberty seminars in like 5th grade, which i think don't count.) I don't think that kind of curriculum is acceptable inside a state that yes, has a higher teenage pregnancy/mom rate (conservatives dont like abortion) than most and also legal age of consent one year younger than most other states'. And I must say... you gotta have a comprehensive sex ed course. in public education. the one(s) i had in high school were NOT -- like the most in depth they got was like "it's still not safe to do it when the girl's on her period"/"condom is not 100%" and that was in biology, not in health. But COME ON PEOPLE. Your kid can just google sex ed on the internet and come up with the randomest crap, or the proper stuff if theyre lucky. And without proper sex-ed nowadays, kids look at porn and learn their sex etiquette from there... I remember watching speech on youtube about that. The lady talking was saying something like "boys think that girls like having juice on their face; girls think they're supposed to like it. Well I don't, and that's not where juice is normally supposed to go..." And last thing (I promise!) -- consent should be stressed, before anyone does any unintentional attack. /i'm done ranting. 
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| #30 :: August 24th, 2011 @ 3:07 AM | |
| Kalai Silly Spamming Sausage  201 Posts 104 Achievements |
I agree with everyone. I think I literally haven't seen an opinion here I disagreed with. *shrug*
Also going to note that people don't just have sex as teenagers, and, I mean, if you're getting married at 20 or whatnot as a virgin, it will definitely help to know what you're getting into. Even abstinent people tend to have sex eventually. It's celibate people who don't. |
| #31 :: August 27th, 2011 @ 8:49 PM | |
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In some cases its a god send I'm sure and in saying that, I'm sure there are parents who are overjoyed to let the school handle explaining sex to their kids because its just awkward for them to discuss it.
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| #32 :: August 27th, 2011 @ 8:57 PM | |
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 @itgisFrom personal experience, I think Sex Ed is very important. Like @SAILOR said, some people usually leave the room when people come in for presentations... And one of those people happened to be my friend. She has a very strict, Christian mother (but that's a whole 'nother story, seriously) and it's kind of ridiculous since she doesn't even know the basics. She's so embarrassed about it -- she talked to me and another friend about it because she knew we wouldn't make fun of her, etc. But yeah; as we talked she honestly believed some of the myths out there, like 'you can stop yourself getting pregnant after sex if you pee'. Like, she knows NOTHING. Why? Because her mother has smothered her her entire life. Want to know the ridiculous part? She just turned nineteen last week. She's the oldest one in our group of friends and she knows NOTHING. And it's kind of scary because she's had three boyfriends. Thank God she's a bit of a prude otherwise she'd probably be rocking a baby to sleep right about now.
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| #33 :: August 27th, 2011 @ 10:02 PM | |
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Sex Ed is definitely essential. Most people have sex. Those same people are likely to have sex regardless of how much they actually know about it. Ergo, it's better to make sure that they know the basics of how everything works down there and how to protect themselves. I mean, some girls who have sex don't even know about the clitoris.
And by god, I pity the woman who knows nothing about her clit. Oh and also let's prevent STDs and unwanted pregnancy and stuff. I think I just summarized what a lot of people in this thread are saying? Oops.
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| #34 :: August 27th, 2011 @ 10:19 PM | |
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| #35 :: August 28th, 2011 @ 3:52 PM | |
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I had a minor sex ed course in like, 4-5th grade.
Then another in... 7-8th grade. Then a third in 9th-10th grade. When I was young in elemetary school I didn't quite understand it, in middle school I just thought it was stupid and embarrassing, and then in high school it was split with our drug education course, and the teacher didn't budget the time so we actually didn't learn sex education at all, lol. I think it is good for kids to understand basics, just because the media, other kids, etc... all feed them different ideas of what sex is, and what the act of it itself actually is. So, learning the basics would always be a good thing, along with the consequences of it, which they may not learn directly from their schoolmates/parents pertaining to diseases and whatnot.
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| #36 :: March 8th, 2012 @ 2:12 PM | |
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I had sex-ed in high school and a very straight forward teacher she had like an entire month or more dedicated to it and we even had to do projects. It was a bit creepy cause I think her intention was to scare the class so we saw the graphic details of stds etc and even saw a birth video. It was a fun class though and I do think sex ed is important, both at school and at home.
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| #37 :: March 8th, 2012 @ 2:33 PM | |
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