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| #1 :: October 28th, 2011 @ 5:30 PM | |
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 What's the whole deal with fetishes with fursuits and making them capable of sex? Having sex in fursuits with random strangers [also in fursuits]? And/or draw porn of furries getting it on? Just seems really weird to me...what attracts people to such an odd fetish? Last Edit by:
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| #2 :: October 28th, 2011 @ 6:58 PM | |
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I would assume that a lot of fetishes don't really have a 'why'. You might as well ask why people have feet fetishes, or D/s fetishes, or any other fetish. I suppose it's possible that some people have a furry fetish because of some kind of nasty bestiality parent/family member child molestation/abuse, but I doubt even a significant portion of furry fetish individuals suffer from that. To be fair, drawing sexy leopard(/whatever animal one particularly enjoys) ladies in sultry stripper positions is terribly enjoyable, though the artist -ahem- may not be into such furry shenannigans. Last Edit by:
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| #3 :: October 30th, 2011 @ 8:35 AM | |
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I think it's something wrong in the brain. I'm 100% against furry fetishes / bestiality. It is not natural.
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| #4 :: October 30th, 2011 @ 10:08 AM | |
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that's a really crapty argument, if you don't mind me saying. I take it you're against homosexuality too? People used to say that that was "unnatural". But anyways, so stay on topic, I don't really mind. Whatever floats your boat. If it makes you happy, you can do it, as long as you do it with people who have the same interest/fetish as you. bestiality, however, I'm against that. The animals can't even say "no", so it's pretty much attack. But if you wanna dress up as a cat and have sex, go ahead. Just don't attack animals.
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| #5 :: October 30th, 2011 @ 10:17 AM | |
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Quote By @cappuccino: that's a really crapty argument, if you don't mind me saying. Whoa, whoa, what. Homosexuality and being a furry are in no way alike. In some cases, being a furry is a fetish, which is what this entire topic is about. In others, it's a lifestyle choice. You consciously decide to be a furry. It's like consciously deciding to be a stamp-collector or to look at certain types of porn on the internet. You do not consciously decide to be gay. Being gay is not a lifestyle choice. Being gay is not a fetish. Case in point being that furries did not exist 200, 300, 800, 1500 years ago. Homosexuality did. People aren't killed around the world for being furries. People are killed for being gay. {derp derp, you replied, so I'll reply with what I was going to edit in.} Sorry, but that comparison is so stupid that it entirely invalidates your 'crapty argument' reply. As for furries - I guess it just works like any other uncommon kink / fetish. It kind of freaks me out and I'm not a huge fan of the sub-culture that has managed to rise around it (In my experience, I have never met an 'out' furry in real life that has not been a jerk. On the internet, there are nice ones, I'm aware, but as soon as they decide to pointedly tell me IRL about what they get up to in the bedroom, it gets frustrating. Also, the ones I've met have sort of a martyr complex, which is another reason why the GAYS ARE THE SAME AS FURRIES WE ARE PERSECUTED grates on me so badly. Blah). Last Edit by:
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| #6 :: October 30th, 2011 @ 10:20 AM | |
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I'm a lesbian, I KNOW they're not alike. I was never comparing them. I was merely pointing out that people used to say homosexuality was unnatural too, which a lot of people (I hope) know is not true. I meant that you can't just be against something because you think it's "unnatural". I was talking about the way she used the word "unnatural", not about the concept of homosexuality itself, to make myself clear. Plus, I don't think fetishes are a choice either. people can't choose what gets them hot or not. They can't consciously decide either like "hey, I want to have a foot fetish". Just try it. It won't work.
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| #7 :: October 30th, 2011 @ 10:28 AM | |
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@cappuccino Your post still implies that there is a connection by both of them being viewed as 'unnatural'. You are comparing them by bringing up homosexuality as a counter-point in the first place- you can say that you didn't intend to draw that comparison, but that is what it reads as. Still, in the one case, the popular view of homosexuality being unnatural is wrong. In the other, it's pretty much right. The furry fetish and lifestyle are not natural. Basically, if you're drawing the comparison between them to make the argument that they're both 'natural', I'm going to argue straight back with the fact that this sub-culture grew as society did. Cartoons had a direct impact on furries (which is why bestiality is different) and the concept of having 'another self' in the style of a half-human half-animal is fairly recent to society as a whole. It's like how you could never argue that somebody with a cyborg fetish would be 'natural', in that the concept of cyborgs is a fairly recent one. It was a fluid result of society's growth, but it's not something natural. You know, unless you want to cite cases of furries in the animal kingdom. Last Edit by:
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| #8 :: October 30th, 2011 @ 10:35 AM | |
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I might have worded my argument wrong. I don't think fetishes are lifestyles. It might be pretty recent, but that doesn't have to mean they're unnatural. I mean, the way us humans are now, is also pretty recent, and you can't call us unnatural. My point is, doesn't matter if it's recent, if it's something you can't change and is part of your brain, it's natural to you, imo. And I don't think you can just /choose/ a fetish. People have fetishes or they don't. Like I said in my last post, I dare you to try and develop a fetish. I can assure you it won't work. I know from a fact you can't choose to be gay either. Derp derp.
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| #9 :: October 30th, 2011 @ 10:52 AM | |
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@cappuccino Developing fetishes does actually work, if given enough time. Maybe you haven't been to some of the darker parts of the internet (for which I cannot possibly blame you), but it is possible. And yes, fetishes are natural to develop- kids don't tend to have fetishes, for example- but as they approach sexual maturity, they explore, discover what they like and then explore some more. Then, depending on their imaginations, they choose what they like. However, there's more control to be had over fetishes than attraction, as I believe that they are two separate things. For example, somebody can be initially attracted to aspects of the body, like, say, large breasts. That's fair enough. Fetishes, however, develop from just liking large breasts to deciding that you like them even more when they're abnormally large, or when the woman is breastfeeding, et cetera. I think it stems from an attraction, basically. You can develop an affinity for bondage from liking the sensation of being unable to move, or from liking the power of being in control. How people experience those fetishes also evolves over time and can develop in a way to make sex become more exciting or more dangerous (see erotic asphyxiation, predicament bondage, drowning fetishes). You can wean yourself off of fetishes, it just isn't easy and people tend to just find something else that they're more interested in. ... I hope that makes sense.
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| #10 :: October 30th, 2011 @ 10:58 AM | |
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I'm not sure man. For example, when kids are playing games, some kids tend to be more submissive than other kids, because that's who they are. Some of those kids get really excited by bondage, because even as a kid they loved being tied up(just as a game though). So in that case, I don't think it's a choice to be into that stuff, because it's been with you ever since your childhood. From what you've said, I guess people can develop fetishes over time, but it can also be something that's just a part of you.
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| #11 :: October 30th, 2011 @ 1:52 PM | |
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You don't develop fetishes, you discover them. As @cappuccino said, you can't just decide to have a foot fetish. Someone who's inherently attracted to feet is going to be attracted to feet no matter what, whereas you might develop an appreciation for feet, but you won't have a fetish for them. When it comes to fetishes, people generally consider them weird and unnatural, (case in point @Kunzite) so they wouldn't expect themselves to have it. It's not until they see images (porn) or outright try it in the bedroom that they register or accept it. On top of that, someone might enjoy light tying up, but gradually become more comfortable and eventually will be able to be blindfolded, handcuffed, chained, etc. This is developing their fetish, but they're not outright developing a whole new fetish. It could also change depending on how comfortable they are with their partner. For example, someone may have an obscure fetish (such as urination, which, as I understand it, most people find disgusting and certainly obscure), and even be aware of it, but they likely won't bring it up with their sexual partners unless they have an extremely strong bond with that person, as well as utter trust. As well, bestiality is completely different from furries. I've never met a natural furry who was also attracted to animals outright. Last Edit by:
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| #12 :: October 31st, 2011 @ 4:40 PM | |
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Unless you count the ancient Egyptian gods, such as Horus, Ra, Bastet, Set, etc...they have human forms but animal heads. The ancient Persians and Babylonians also combined humans and animals in their myths (i.e. sphinxes), and ancient Greeks had satyrs, fauns, centaurs, Gorgons, etc... Not sure if that would count as "proof" of ancient furry-ism though, as you're right, the sub-culture seems to have developed from cartoons. However, a majority of furries that I see art of seem to be largely anthropomorphic animals, such as wolves, cats, dragons, etc...so "furry" to me (IMO) counts as anthropomorphic animals, not humans with combined animal parts.
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| #13 :: October 31st, 2011 @ 4:59 PM | |
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 Don't worry. I don't want to screw your precious pooch.
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| #14 :: October 31st, 2011 @ 5:06 PM | |
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 As for drawing furries I find the body forms fun and it gives them interesting character traits. In the same why drawing alien species can be fun. I draw them from G rated images to things I can only post in special places. Though I do that with humans too so *shrug* |
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| #17 :: October 31st, 2011 @ 5:51 PM | |
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@Thunderbird
Broaden your horizons a little bit, and look at how fetishes work as a whole, rather than simply what attracts people to the furry fetish in general. All fetishes are weird; they're supposed to be. It adds a flair of sexual excitement outside the norm. You know what they say about forbidden fruit being sweeter. That being said, it's nearly impossible to say why "people are sexually into fursuits". You'll get a different answer for every person. Some like the feeling of fur. Some like the wild/primal feeling of it. Some just prefer it to showing their real faces. One look at my HA will probably tell you I'm furry, but I can't give you a lot of insight without being totally biased, lol. So I hope I at least gave you some brain-food.
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I don't see why you would post something like that. We're talking about furry fetishes (as with anthropomorphic animals) and not bestiality. @LittleReya: I'm sure you can congratulate Puck by commenting on her Profile instead of posting a irrelevant comment to the thread topic. @Starhowl Ah. It just seems very weird to me why people would dress up in fursuits to have sex rather than just taking off the fursuits for it. Wouldn't the fursuits get hot and cumbersome? Why not just wear a skintight costume or something? (As you can probably tell, I like sex au naturale.) And what about yiff (furry porn)? Do furries draw yiff as a sexual fetish only? Why do they seem (to me so far) to be predominately female, whereas the WikiFur says most are men? Why are furries stereotyped as yiff-loving perverts? (I'm not a furry but I do RP animals/pets. I have however known some people who I know now are definitely "furries". I previously only had experience with the furry fandom with people who were too obsessed with it, but after seeing that one of my favorite horse artists on DeviantART is a furry, I decided to try and understand the fandom better.)
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| #19 :: November 1st, 2011 @ 2:18 AM | |
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@Thunderbird what's that, Lassie? Someone used sarcasm on the internet?! Call the cyberpolice! (also, I've got a Richard, just fyi.) And like Forbiddensecrets said, plenty of us find fursuits ridiculous. They look gaudy imo and just...well...hell I live too close to Disneyland to not think lol Mickey. Now if there was some magic futuristic technology to go all half wolf or whatnot, well that would peak my interest. Yes, yiff is sexual-fetish only because...it's porn. Just like big boob porn is sexual fetish porn because that's what porn is. Sexual. Really just go out on the internet and you'll find all the answers to your questions. FFFFFFFFT at whoever was butthurt enough to report me for spam. How cute <3 Last Edit by:
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| #20 :: November 1st, 2011 @ 2:52 AM | |
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This isn't really a debate at all. A fetish is a fetish, what attracts anyone to anything? Why do furries always seem to get singled out? There's plenty of weird stuff out there to focus on. Why do some people enjoy balloons so much they reach satisfaction when it explodes from being blown too much? They just do. Balloons have special meaning to them for whatever reason. I think someone who posted above said it best when they mentioned that it's different for everyone. The sexual side of furry is just that, a sexual side, a fetish. It's not a mental disability, just like being hot for big breasts or hairy toes isn't a mental disability. You can compare furries and yiff to any fetish and that answer will always be the same: because it is to them, for the reason it is, and everyone is different. Also realize that not all furry is a sexual fetish. The fandom is split into adult and regular. Having sex with random strangers in fursuits is the exact same as going to a bar and picking someone up to have a one night stand. Only they do it with like minded individuals who appreciate their fetish. It makes it better that way. No one wants to just pull out their fetish with someone they don't know, it just isn't safe or smart. Two people into bondage will have bondage sex together. Maybe you should go and get some serious information from furry communities. Furaffinity is a pretty big site, and the forums have a motherload of information. I just would read first rather than asking, they deal with a lot of trolls and idiots, so they aren't always friendly off the get go for simple stuff. Look up videos of conventions on youtube. Fursuiting, especially the making of suits, good suits, is a total art form, it's amazing to watch. And maybe rent a library book about fetishes. One that wasn't made in the 80s. Something recent.  You'll find out a lot of simple answers that way.Last Edit by:
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| #21 :: November 1st, 2011 @ 3:45 AM | |
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@Thunderbird I'm pretty sure the most hardcore furries on the Internet are in Malatora. You should go ask on their forums. (Also, LOL @Malatora and everything about it.) Last Edit by:
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| #22 :: November 1st, 2011 @ 9:17 AM | |
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Quote By @cappuccino: @Kunzite I'm not actually against homosexuality- in fact I actually find lesbians / gays to be nicer people than heterosexuals. I was reading somewhere that a good number of furries thought about having sex with live animals. I'm still against furry fetishes. They're no worse than pedophilia fetishes, honestly. Excuse me if you find me a bit weird because I have kind of an alien view on the world. I never understood the behaviour of humans, especially when it comes to sex. I'm aromantic, asexual and agendered, so I'm a freak haha.
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| #23 :: November 1st, 2011 @ 11:10 AM | |
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@Lacie @Thunderbird I'm sorry, but I'm going to have to advise strongly against browsing the Furaffinity forums for information regarding the furry fandom or sexuality. I feel I need the warn you that they do not represent the furry community; I do not represent them, for example, and they sure as hell don't represent me. I'm not sure if the admins ever buckled down on buttheads there, but really it's just a festering crock of 13 year olds bickering and swearing and riding around on high-horses completely unchecked. There is very little of value there among all the arguing and completely intolerant and self-entitled people.
Unfortunately, on that note, it's hard to say -where- you can get good furry information... especially on the fetish itself; but I do like what @Lacie said. Check that out. Your best bet is to single out the most mature, intelligent ones of the bunch, and speak to them. Speak to plenty, and gather information, then make it into your own judgement. SecondLife, FurAffinity, DeviantArt, even Subeta has a few good individuals for you to make your measurement. Also @LittleReya is my mate; her comment wasn't all that bad, considering some would agree this topic isn't particularly debate-worthy. It's more informative.
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| #24 :: November 1st, 2011 @ 11:32 AM | |
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Uhm yeah okay how exactly are they the same as pedophilia fetishes. Pedophilia fetishes are about loveing little kids who don't even know what's happening to them, and furry fetishes are just about loveing someone in an animal costume who perfectly know what they're doing and getting into. It doesn't mean they really think about loveing animals, that bestiality. And I don't give a damn if you're agendered, aromantic and asexual, tbh. You might not understand the behavior of humans, but that doesn't mean it's something "wrong in the brain" or anything.
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| #25 :: November 1st, 2011 @ 1:31 PM | |
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@Kunzite Fantasies =! what people would actually do. @Thunderbird I'd love to be able to contribute better to this debate....if there was actually a debate here =) care to tell me what we're debating? Because if you're just asking questions I'll happily ask a mod to move this to the chit-chat forums for you. =) Oh, but to keep on topic lest someone get their panties in a bunch and report me again The main argument 'for' furries (I guess? Maybe? Maybe this is what we're debating? Who knows. I certainly don't) I like what I like because I like it and I don't care if you approve or not. Last Edit by:
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| #26 :: November 1st, 2011 @ 2:51 PM | |
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Quote By @cappuccino: Quote By @Kunzite: Would you be okay with people being attracted to child characters / costumes then? It's still sick.
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| #27 :: November 1st, 2011 @ 5:34 PM | |
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Uhm yes but there's a difference between fantasies and what people do irl. And for love's sake like I told you not all furries want to love animals, and some pedophiles (the crazy kind which is damn near not all of them) get into action they sometimes attack children and don't listen when they say no. How the love does that relate to having sex with someone who perfectly knows what he/she's getting into JUST because they have a loveing costume on. You can go "would you be alright with people being attracted to child costumes" and loveyeah I'd be happier if some pedophile loveed some girl in a child costume who'd enjoy it instead of raping a kid, no? Doesn't matter if you don't understand it, you can't just claim it to be sick. If you think it's sick, you've got to give arguments why it is. Facts, imo. That's what the debate forum is for. Not just randomly saying "this is sick" and leaving. It can be really offending for people on this site who are furries, and are not the sick boys you claim them to be, while you have very little knowledge about them.
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| #28 :: November 2nd, 2011 @ 7:20 PM | |
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Quote: I was reading somewhere that a good number of furries thought about having sex with live animals. Yeah, I'd really love to see where you read this. From an actual academic study: 2% have a an interest in zoophilia (sex between humans and animals, in other words, bestiality) (source). The other 98% do not. From my own experience, most furs are against irl animal loveing because it's animal abuse, which is something that does not go over well with furries. There is a huge difference between feeling attracted to a fox chick with human anatomy and an actual fox. You are obviously very misinformed about the furry fandom.
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| #29 :: November 3rd, 2011 @ 11:03 AM | |
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Maybe I'm biased because I knew someone who was stalked by this creepy furry woman, and the fact that I've seen FurAffinity but I do have a hatred of excessive fetishes. I'm sorry if I offended anyone and you seriously don't need to start swearing and doging at me. It's called an opinion.
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| #30 :: November 3rd, 2011 @ 12:07 PM | |
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@Kunzite why would you have a hatred for extreme fetishes? Who are you to judge what makes someone happy? If you could only orgasm while being whipped, or tied up, or in a lion's suit, are you going to never orgasm just because it's extreme? Saying that furries are into bestiality is about as logical as claiming that someone who's into S&M is a brutal murderer. In other words, not logical. At all. People are doging at you because your 'opinion' is ignorant and stupid. If you want to tell people random opinions that you've pulled out of your ass, then the debate forum probably isn't where you belong. Quote: Would you be okay with people being attracted to child characters / costumes then?Hmm.. oh yeah, loli. I don't particularly see a problem with that. Do you, @cappuccino? Edit: @Kunzite I just realized we probably don't have the same idea of what 'extreme' is. For all I know, you're into vanilla sex, and you'd consider hair-pulling extreme. Do elaborate. Last Edit by:
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| #31 :: November 3rd, 2011 @ 12:40 PM | |
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Because that's what gets them off. And as long as they aren't hurting anyone or animal, I don't see a problem with it. There are worse fetishes for people to be arguing about in a thread. Forum set by |
| #32 :: November 3rd, 2011 @ 1:10 PM | |
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  @Kunzite LOL, let's just ignore the fact that other animals have sex with animals of other species, as well, shall we? Also, individuals of other species do become attracted to humans. Not saying that sexual furries are into true inter-species sex, but both are certainly not unnatural. Some people enjoy wearing costumes when having sex. These can be anything, such as a schoolgirl outfit, cop uniform or fursuit. What makes wearing an animal costume while having sex so "wrong" and "unnatural"? Saying, "It just is!" doesn't count, by the way. The main topic isn't inter-species sex, but I would also argue that that is also completely natural. It may seem "strange" and "weird" to think of one species having sex with another species, but it really, really isn't. Back to the main topic: furries aren't just the ones who like to have costume sex. They can also just be fans of the art style, or like to dress up in costumes because it's fun. * * * * * * I saw the constellations reveal themselves one star at a time.
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| #33 :: November 3rd, 2011 @ 1:22 PM | |
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I'd personally never want to have sex in a fur suit, as well as many other furries for reasons already posted. Also previously stated is the fact that 98% of furries are not into bestiality. I know for me, the anthro art is attractive because the figures look extremely exotic. The figures are still human in nearly every way aside from their looks and maybe some personality traits like being extremely "people-friendly" the way a domesticated dog would be for an anthro dog.
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| #34 :: November 3rd, 2011 @ 3:01 PM | |
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Quote: Maybe I'm biased because I knew someone who was stalked by this creepy furry woman, and the fact that I've seen FurAffinity but I do have a hatred of excessive fetishes. I'm sorry if I offended anyone and you seriously don't need to start swearing and doging at me. It's called an opinion. Oh lol, so you're judging an entire group because you've encountered some bad apples? By this logic I should hate all Christians and atheists because of the few who have disrespected what I believe in. Or all men because I was abused by one. Hell, I should hate most people. But I don't. Because I have no right to assume that everyone in a particular group is a jerk/freak/bully/etc just because I've encountered a few of them who are. While I think the people swearing at you were in the wrong, I also think maybe you shouldn't be debating if you're going to strictly use opinions founded on ignorance and intolerance in favor of facts and logic. Last Edit by:
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| #35 :: November 3rd, 2011 @ 4:43 PM | |
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Soooo people don't choose to have fetishes. It just happens to them. I feel kinda bad for them, especially since they are a marginalized group much in the same way homosexuals have been marginalized. They just have the benefit of obscurity; the concept is relatively new. There are fetishes and sexual practices that only show up in certain time periods, because the concept of that fetish may not have existed previously i.e.: there weren't any cartoons or movies with anthropomorphic animals for children to grow attached to back in the day. So they may not have to face punishment for sodomy for being a furry, but they are still very much taboo. In fact, in the western world, I would argue that it is MUCH MORE taboo to be a furry than to be gay. Oh, and using "unnatural" as the basis of an argument is an invalid argument, unless you want to define your terms a little bit better. One could say that having a furry fetish (which is, actually, completely natural - one's mind naturally wires itself that way for reasons people are not sure of yet, but yes your own internal preferences are indeed natural and formed internally by your own biological processes) and homosexuality (although, for similar reasons, is also arguably natural) are linked together via the fact that they have been labeled as "unnatural" occurrences So, yes, they are similar. Computers are also arguably unnatural (much more so than homosexuality and fetishes). And here we are, homosexuality, furry fetishes, and computers can now be placed in the same category via their relation to the concept of being "unnatural." What does unnatural mean? Going with the assumption that having a furry fetish is a choice (it isn't), how is making the choice to be attracted to that "unnatural"? What is "natural?" Why, then, is being "unnatural" seen as an inherently bad quality to you? What about it makes it objectively bad? What about being "natural" is good? Why is it a good quality? Unless you're trying to say that we're "naturally" supposed to be attracted to humans... But, again, how do you "naturally" know how humans are programmed? We're just people; there's no script for how we're supposed to be, and no one wrote our genetic programming. We just are the way we are. The fact is, people (and even animals) can be attracted to many different things, and it's always been that way, and it always will be that way. Sounds pretty natural to me. And now I have explained to you the logical fallacy of appealing to nature. Also, not all furries are the same. In-group vs. out-group biases. Furries are an out-group category to you, and because of that your mind automatically lumps them together into the same category, which while saving mental resources also has the unfortunate side effect of giving one the impression that all furries are the same. I am sure everyone is part of some sort of group that others may not be (for instance, being American, Chinese, older, younger, college graduate, etc.), and to people on the outside everyone in your group looks the same too. Say you're in theater. Someone who's not in theater likely feels that most people in theater have the same general personality and do the same things. My point is, furries are just as varied as anyone else. Last Edit by:
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| #36 :: November 4th, 2011 @ 5:02 PM | |
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Quote By @Death: @ Kunzite I hate most furries because MOST of them that I have run into have been 'bad.' Plus, the things they do go against my beliefs as well. @PiRan I never said that it was ONLY furries that I was against. I do not approve of many other sexual practices either. The only reason why different species have sex with each other is because they don't know any better. @ Actually, I'm not into 'vanilla' sex. As previously stated I am asexual and aromantic. I'm not completely antisexual, I just want sex to be a reproductive process and nothing else. I know that I can be quite rude about it sometimes, because from previous events I have become extremely intolerant with sex. It's something I'm trying to get out of, because it really doesn't help with my anxiety and depression. I have met some nice furries, who are just in it for the cute animals and the art. But the majority of those who you find on sites like FurAffinity are the kind I'd stay away from. Again, it's not just furries that piss me off. BDSM is another one that irritates me. But I'm sorry if I offended anyone. I'm really not sure why it is but I guess I've always been like this. Something drove me to believe that humans should stop fussing over sex / sexuality and do other things. My opinion kind of changes from time to time.
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| #37 :: November 4th, 2011 @ 5:19 PM | |
| Fluorosaur Member 36 Posts 2 Achievements |
Quote By @Kunzite:
Quote By @Death:@ Kunzite This is interesting. How old are you, if I may ask? If you don't want to answer, that's fine. Since you have no sexual feelings, this may be hard for you to understand - but sex and sexuality is a big deal to most people. It's a very powerful drive, on a similar level as hunger or thirst. You have a logical grasp of what its biological purpose is (to reproduce), but there's more to it than that. It can be a very emotional act and it's very important to the majority of humans who experience sexual arousal. You're probably annoyed because you see it everywhere and you can't appreciate it, so you think it's blown out of proportion. But you must understand that it really is that important to most people.
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| #38 :: November 4th, 2011 @ 5:23 PM | |
| Kunzite Blabbermouth 818 Posts 171 Achievements |
Quote By @Fluorosaur: Quote By @Kunzite:Quote By @Death:@ Kunzite Sixteen. I know that there is a good chance I might develop sexual feelings a bit late, but that's kind of my phobia so I just hope it doesn't happen. I try to accept sometimes, but I really don't believe you <u>need</u> sex. I've never heard anything bad happen to people who are without it.
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| #39 :: November 4th, 2011 @ 5:32 PM | |
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| #40 :: November 4th, 2011 @ 5:40 PM | |
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@Kunzite Personally, I'd say being asexual is extreme (in that the vast majority of people aren't asexual). No, people don't need sex, but as @Fluorosaur said, it's an extremely powerful drive. It generally makes people happy, and it's a genuine stress reliever. The pheromones that are released are kind of addictive, and so is the adrenaline. On top of that, it's not a bad addiction to have, and is easily controllable (as opposed to, say, smoking).
If you really are asexual and not just a 'late bloomer', then you can't appreciate sex and sexual satisfaction the same way someone who is tonedeaf or who's been raised without music can't really appreciate a musical masterpiece. While that example strays more towards the nurture side of the nature vs. nurture debate, the point still stands. I can respect that you're asexual, but you've got to respect that other people are into things you're not. It's not 'wrong' or 'immoral' to have a fetish, any more than it's 'wrong' or 'immoral' to like the colour gray. You especially can't degrade fetishes if you're asexual, because they really have no effect on you. If I offended you, make my day by telling me about it. |
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