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#1001 :: May 18th, 2012 @ 1:18 PM
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Haha, that is awesome. XD Owls are scary. But I'm not sure about owl either...


#1002 :: May 18th, 2012 @ 1:19 PM
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@Larka Haha weird! An owl sounds like a weird choice for a guard dog. XD
I'm not a fan of Owlclan either. i like it, but I just don't think it fits in very well here. I always think of owls for something very knowledgeable, like a library or something. XD I don't like it much for the pats. I still would rather have Hawk or Eagle.


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He who fights and wins is strong. That was what I used to think.

@Star @Dolphi Yeah, I understand that. =D Coming up with another bird is hard, but Hawk or Eagle does seem like it'll work, if we can find no other. I could imagine having an owl as a guard dog though. XD "Sick 'em, Hooty!" XD

Anyway, here's some other ones I found randomly. Some are a little long so they probably won't work, but I'm just putting them out there.
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#1004 :: May 18th, 2012 @ 1:39 PM
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We'd have to run them by everyone else. DX I still think Raven or Crow, even, is perfect for Elite Clan. I voted CrowClan out earlier, hate the double C, but I'd be willing to bring it back since people refuse to accept Raven.


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#elite no matter what name you pick, I'm still having a cat named Falconwing. I don't care if he's in Falconclan even if that's silly. Naming him Harlequinwing is a lot of awkward ( named after a pair of Harlequin Falcons that I keep track of Via Newspaper ^^ )

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#1006 :: May 19th, 2012 @ 4:33 PM
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No problem. I have a Falconfang, after all. along with an Eagleheart. Now then...

Can we all just agree already?

SparrowClan (Normal)
Wren/ThrushClan (Mats. With Larka about the thrust thing but honestly, just pick one.)
HawkClan (Pat)
FalconClan (Elite)

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@Star Go with ThrushClan. and as for Thrust, this is based on a book for children so whats the big deal? I mean kindly ignore the closeness to the name?

LETS JUST DO THIS I HAVE NO PROBLEMS. SO WHAT EAGLE SEEMS BETTER TO SOME PEOPLE FALCON WILL BE FINE CAN WE CLOSE THIS PLEASE?! #elite

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#1008 :: May 19th, 2012 @ 11:31 PM
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Ok, you're starting to act rude. Or, more like, you started to sound rude a couple of posts ago. Thrush is not a problem, it's just something we're pointing out. It was a joke for crying out loud. Please refrain from writing in all caps like that again. It's considered not only rude but also immature. I understand you're frustrated but that doesn't give you the right to loose your cool. Trust me, we're all ready to be done with this. But if some people are unhappy with the names then that is an issue we must discuss. You yourself have said multiple times you don't care which names we use so your input in this is very unhelpful.

Don't worry, we'll get this started soon. But in the meantime might I suggest you open a wordpad file, or microsoft word if you prefer, copy down the skeletons we are using for the cats, and start typing some up for your own cats so that everything can flow smoothly when we get to that point.


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@Star I apologize if I'm rude. I just find it irritating that making a roleplay with democracy takes too long. I just hope you all decide and get your names down. I already have my characters finished. I'm waiting with batted breath. Anyways I hope you figure everything out, sorry if I sounded rude. I use caps to erm... I guess use irritation

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#1010 :: May 20th, 2012 @ 5:39 PM
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That's how democracy works, unfortunately. It's alright. Don't worry about it, we'll be ready soon.


#1011 :: May 20th, 2012 @ 6:55 PM
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@Star Yep, i agree with that set. I don't care which of the two we use for the mats, i think both WrenClan and ThrushClan are good. x) Whatever works!


#1012 :: May 20th, 2012 @ 7:13 PM
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Awesome. Can you suggest it to Violet?


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i like the set. :]
i like both Wren and Thrush, so whatever works.

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#1014 :: May 20th, 2012 @ 7:18 PM
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Awesome. ^^

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Oh hey, can you smail me? Me and Archaic came up with a pretty nice plot line and I want to tell you about it. Plus I have things to ask you.


#1015 :: May 21st, 2012 @ 10:46 AM
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#elite

Quote By star:

SparrowClan (Normal)
Wren/ThrushClan (Mats. With Larka about the thrust thing but honestly, just pick one.)
HawkClan (Pat)
FalconClan (Elite)


This. Just this.
I like WrenClan, I think, and the rest are perfect. Anybody disagree?

Juliet, the dice were loaded from the start,

And I bet, and you exploded in my heart,

And I forget, I forget, the movie song,

When you gonna realise that it was just that the time was wrong,

Juliet?

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#1016 :: May 21st, 2012 @ 12:04 PM
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I'm pretty sure everyone else has agreed. Dolphi, Bonko, Archaic... not sure about @Larka @Violet @blue_espeon though.


#1017 :: May 21st, 2012 @ 12:49 PM
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@Star Yeah, i'll tell her about the clan names. And okay, I'll go smail you. x)


#1018 :: May 28th, 2012 @ 5:15 AM
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#elite Update please? Also, for all who didn't know, my computer has been broken and I just got it back. Sorry for my absence! I just need a quick update and I'll be good to go.


#1019 :: May 28th, 2012 @ 11:54 AM
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@Violet Welcome back! Um, in this we decided on clan names and now we're posting characters on the character board. (: We should be ready to create the actual rp soon.


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@Violet I've also started nominating mentors, no one thought anyone would mind. If there are problems, they can be changed, anyway. I tried to make sure everyone got an apprenticeship with everyone else, where I could, and still abided by the rules of each Clan (i.e. mat and pat)

Juliet, the dice were loaded from the start,

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Juliet?

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#1021 :: May 28th, 2012 @ 5:21 PM
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@Synesthete @Dolphi I thought maybe 7 would be a good number? So that more people could have a chance at having one?

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#1022 :: June 6th, 2012 @ 6:28 AM
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He who fights and wins is strong. That was what I used to think.

#Elite What does everyone think about having dogs in here? I started working on two dog characters and decided I'd like to use them here but I wanna know what you guys think first.

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#1023 :: June 6th, 2012 @ 6:13 PM
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Let me guess, Gracie and Lucky? Anyways, I, personally, can't really see dogs fitting in here... to me they'd seem kind of random, you know? I don't know if they'd be used for much. Two dogs can't do a lot against sooooo many cats. Maybe if we made a pack of dogs though? I could throw in Zeana. And Sophie?


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@Larka @Star I'm honestly not keen on the idea, I think twolegs and dogs don't really have a place in a mountain territory. Why not make a dog roleplay?

@Violet Well, I don't mind that much, I just like the idea of each being 'oversee-er' of one of the other Clans, you know?


Last Edit by: Synesthete 6/07/12 - 6:46:13 am

Juliet, the dice were loaded from the start,

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And I forget, I forget, the movie song,

When you gonna realise that it was just that the time was wrong,

Juliet?

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#1025 :: June 7th, 2012 @ 4:12 PM
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Not all the clan territories are up in the mountain though. Only elite. The rest of them are simply near the mountains. Plus, as we all well know, humans are everywhere. People live in the mountains too. And she doesn't want to make a whole Roleplay with dogs. She just wants a few. I think a dog pack could be interesting. I mean, think how many of our cats have histories that involve dogs? Dogs did this, dogs did that, you know?


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@Larka @Star @Synesthete I'd rather not have random dogs running around unless we add twolegs and kittypets into this, but I'd be cool with having a wild dog pack or something like that. That could add plot potential in the future too, if we needed something to move the rp along.


#1027 :: June 7th, 2012 @ 10:28 PM
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Hmm... well, would you be willing to bring in twolegs? I'm thinking just a small village at the very edge of the territories that arent on the mountain. Like, the territory will stop, then about.... a mile to a half a mile away there's a small village of natives. That way we can have a few kittypets, not too many though, since there wouldn't be that many people living here, and some dogs. And this village could even be temporary and could kind of disappear once the former kittypet cats have joined the clan. I think it's a good idea, though, because it opens things up for people who want kittypets or former kittypets. It makes it so that not every single cat has to be either clan born or loner born. It also makes it so that there's a place where some of the loners could have come from. Since it would be a really tiny village I could imagine them not often having their cats fixed and, as a result, simply throwing out the kittens if a she-cat gives birth. Ooh, we could even make it so that, since they're primitive, they sometimes eat cats. (I mean, eating cats and dogs isn't totally unheard of and, although I think it's sick, it's a personal choice and I can totally picture at least some of the villagers practicing it.) That way there won't be a mass influx of cats originating from this village and the clan cats will fear it, leading to them avoiding it and what not. It adds a nice little subplot, you know?


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@Star yeah, I like that! I'm all for it. (: That would add a lot of future plot potential, and I think ti would make a lot of sense too. If everyone else is okay with it, I'd be fine with there being a little village. (:


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Awesome! ^^ I like it a lot too. It would make sense and it adds another strike of fear. Makes it that there's more then just FalconClan to be afraid of and leaves a lot of potential open. I'm gonna make it into a motion, now that you've agreed. ^^

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He who fights and wins is strong. That was what I used to think.

#Elite I think my whole idea has been completely misunderstood... I should've explained it earlier. My dogs aren't going to be evil by any means and therefore would not be part of a dog pack though I'm not saying we can't have one if we do go through with any of this at all. The dogs wouldn't be random at all. Here's my whole idea in a nutshell. This is directly quoted from a conversation I had with Violet when she asked about my idea.

"Okay, so here's how this would work. They'd have a bit of back-story to them, obviously, since they're based off my real pets and it basically works like this: Lucky-Alex-Smokey (my Smokepelt) come package deal and Gracie-Lightning (Lightningstreak in terms of RP) are also package deal. So basically, if I bring in one dog, two follow, and if I bring in the other dog, the other cat follows. So I'm gonna end up with at least five more characters. XD But that's not a problem.

Anyway, the dogs would basically be weird dogs. Like, they wouldn't be all stupid or hating against cats but maybe be allies to them instead. My dog Lucky was as gentle as can be so he'd be friends with SparrowClan and would serve as their gentle guardian against the other Clans and would try to solve disputes between them with words, not violence. As for how he'd come to live in their territory, I have yet to figure that out though I can always just have him be a dog who escaped from their home but still has a doggypet (?) name.

As for Gracie, she's a little more vicious than my dog Lucky was and tolerates less crap from anyone but she can still be sweet when she wants to be. So she'd be an ally to some Clan as well but isn't afraid to actually get down and dirty with other cats. (She always is beating up my Lightning. XD But they also have a weird sort of friendship 'cause I've seen them curled up next to each other before.) So yeah, whatever Clan Lightningstreak would be in, she'd ally herself with that one. *nodnod*

Then, with the bringing in of Lightningstreak, it'd open up some possibilities for peeps. He has a mate that Star plays but if she doesn't want to play the mate, then that would be open. There's also my kit, Tankit, who needs siblings. I don't think Star plans to have Morninglotus pair up with Smokepelt in this one so he'd stay a loner named Smokey (after my dead cat) for a while until he is somehow drawn into another Clan probably. My other dead cat, Alex, would come in, and he'd be a totally new character, so everything would be open for him."

To clarify further, all of the kittypets I bring in would become warriors to keep in line with the rules that are in place. Some of them will be better at it than others but they'll still try, nonetheless.

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@Larka Dogs can't talk cat-language, so how would your dogs communicate with the cats? I'd be okay with having just your two dogs if they're allied with a Clan. Other than that, kittypets who are still kittypets don't belong here, I feel, so if Smokey is a loner that will eventually join a Clan I don't see a problem but if he wants to stick with his twolegs then I don't think he should be brought in here, and same goes for Alex.

I don't see the point in the twoleg village idea. No cat would go down there, they wouldn't keep many cats and we're fine with any cat that decides to join a Clan. We already have half of each Clan as former loners anyway and we don't need any more. I don't want a crap load of kittypets and dogs running around completely not interacting with the Clans or onlycausing problems.

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He who fights and wins is strong. That was what I used to think.

@Synesthete The way I think of it is this: cats who live with twolegs start to kind of understand certain words after being around them for so long and might be able to understand some of what they're saying. The same goes with dogs, though their understanding often comes from positive reinforcement. However, since cats and dogs are both animals, the ability to understand each other could be there. Since my cats and dogs have been around each other for so long (we're talking 10+ years for Lucky and 6+ years for Gracie), I'd assume they could understand each other. Maybe my two dogs wouldn't be able to understand the SparrowClan cats right away since they haven't been around them for a while and Lightningstreak, Alex (Don't have a warrior name for him yet) and Smokepelt could serve as translators until the dogs come to understand the Clan cats after being with them for a while. Or, so they could directly communicate with the SparrowClan cats themselves, we could just say they've been there for a while and can already communicate with the cats.

As for the cats, they would be former kittypets who traveled a long way from home in a ragtag group that's made up of dogs and cats, so their affiliation with twolegs would be gone entirely. They'd still be inducted into SparrowClan and Smokepelt would excel at being a warrior since he was a rogue to begin with but Alex would kind of fail at it since he was a born kittypet. He'd still be helpful to his Clan though he wouldn't be the perfect warrior, by any means. I was thinking he'd have more of a role like Daisy in the books, staying in camp and helping out with things there, in the nursery, etc. Lightningstreak would also become a warrior too, though he'd fall in between Smokepelt and Alex on the skill spectrum. He wouldn't be horrible but he wouldn't be that good either.

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#1033 :: June 8th, 2012 @ 5:34 PM
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@Star @Larka @Synesthete Okay, I'm fine with Larka having a dog that is a sort of honorary member of the Clans, or a single Clan, but I don't think there should be more than one, really, and I don't like the idea of kittypets around, so I'd have to vote against the village as well.


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@Larka If that's what your wanting to do then I have to say I'm against it as well. Sorry.

@BONKo @blue_espeon

What do you guys think of the village? Keep in mind there wouldn't be a mass amount of kittypets coming from it. Only a few. And it would open up more options for forbidden romances and what not. More conflict for if a kittypet wants to join the clan but can't convince themselves to leave their twolegs, too. ^^ (Bonko, I could even see Cinder--- love interest coming from here.)

EDIT:

Talked to Larka. She ok'd the village idea. Also, @Violet, I really don't know if it's anyone's right, and I mean anyone here's, to tell someone what characters they can and cannot bring in. To me it just feels wrong. And think about it. How much has Larka really asked for, for one thing? And it feels wrong to tell someone they can't bring in one of their characters. I wouldn't want this happening to me. I mean, what if I said to you you can't bring in so-and-so because I don't like the idea of their being more then one of that type of a character in the RP? That's a personal opinion and something that should not be forced on anyone. If you want to have your individual characters dislike or distrust her dogs then that's fine. But I don't feel any of us have a right to straight out say no to someone's character.


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@Star But this roleplay is strictly about cats. Bringing in one dog or two dogs opens the door for everyone to bring in dogs, or foxes, or badgers or even human characters, and that would be getting away from the foundation of the roleplay. Bringing in dogs changes everything, and that doesn't just affect Larka, that affects everyone, and that's why we're discussing this at all. If Larka wasn't asking whether or not we were comfortable with her bringing in a certain character, then why are we even talking about this? This roleplay is a CAT roleplay, not an open world for all animals roleplay. And while I don't mind one different character in the plot, I do not want that to turn into dozens of different characters, which would take away from the core of the plot. That's my opinion that Larka ASKED for, so I don't appreciate you lecturing me about giving it.

My vote still stands against the kittypets. If it's necessary to take a vote on the dog situation, I think we should. That's how we agreed things would work.


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Well I'm sorry but that's how I feel. And Larka only asked permission because she was afraid to go ahead with it because of how everyone else would react to them. If this role play was more open she wouldn't have to ask. I'm really starting to hate what this is becoming. You're limiting creativity because you have a plan as to how this whole thing should run. We're all doing it. And it's wrong.


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@Star @Larka To clarify, when I said I didn't like having the kittypets around, I only meant the ones that would be associated with the village. Kittypets that have traveled is a different scenario that I don't really mind, because it is perfectly possible. But I still don't like the village thing too much. I'll give it some more thought though.

And again, when on person changes something this drastic it affects everything. If this were one person's roleplay you wouldn't have a problem with them banning dogs. But since this is everyone's roleplay, everyone needs to be comfortable with big changes (and this is a big change), and the majority needs to agree. If we let everyone do everything they wanted creatively there would be cats with wings and magic powers and pink fur and unicorns. There has to at least be some way of limiting things, and that's why we have the voting thing in place. Larka asking if everyone is okay with it is a courtesy to everyone else, one that I, and I'm sure others, appreciate.


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I don't think it's fair though. To make so that, if you have a kittypet at all, it's had to travel for miles and miles and days and days to reach this place. It won't even be a kittypet anymore at this point. It'll just be a loner. Trust me when I say I have no intentions of bringing in any kittypets myself. I am seriously doing this for the sake of potential roleplayers.

If you really believe that then you far underestimate the power of a realistic roleplayer. I mean, it would be a simply as adding, 'All characters must be at least semi-realisitic. No flying cats or pink dogs.' in the rules. It would be far less limiting and would establish the point that we don't want foolish characters that are totally unrealistic to the plot line. And this is not a drastic change. The dogs joining the clans, that's a bit of a bigger deal, but bringing in dogs is not drastic at all. If you really think about it we already have dogs. Many of us have something happen to our cats in their past revolving around dogs. And it's not just a courtesy. I've talked to her about it. I can quote what she's said, if you really want me to. If it wasn't for the restrictions she wouldn't have even asked. She would have just brought them in. And if everyone has to ask before they bring in even one character then what's the point? It may as well just be a closed RP, open only to those who have been a part of everything.


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@Star Well, like I said, I'll consider the village thing a little more thoroughly. But it's not about every single character needing approval. These characters aren't typical, they are pretty out there for the type of rp we're doing here and that kind of changes the dynamic of things. So I think it does need to at least be discussed. That's all.


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@Violet

But I still don't think any of us have a right to limit another's characters like we are. I can understand it needing to be discussed, so we can shift things around and make it all work, but out right rejection is not something I want.