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#201 :: July 28th, 2012 @ 4:47 AM

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#202 :: July 28th, 2012 @ 8:50 AM

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just a query , why arent the stats of shrines listed ?
the shrines them self only say 'equip one only' 'once per battle' no stats of theirs is said .

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#203 :: July 28th, 2012 @ 8:53 AM

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@ Because I'm retarded. I'll fix that.

They're more like "blessing" items than weapons.

#204 :: July 28th, 2012 @ 8:55 AM

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nukum is a good curse & porin gives both blessing and curse so they are fun to play with plus apollonia & porin give healing .

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thanks.

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#205 :: July 28th, 2012 @ 5:03 PM

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Just had my Scorched Skin curse from Acorn Bomb run out during an Ice King fight, so it doesn't last forever. Tested it on Rictus and it lasted 100 turns. Still longer than like 97% of battles but there's an end to it.

#206 :: July 28th, 2012 @ 5:14 PM

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Just a small change but I'm pretty sure the Malice's curse has a 100% activation rate. At least, I use it every day for BQs and have never not noticed it to work. If I find any evidence on the contrary I'll let you know, of course, but it'd make sense as that's how it was before the revamp.

#207 :: July 28th, 2012 @ 7:13 PM

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I use it everyday as well, definitely 100%

#208 :: July 29th, 2012 @ 5:16 AM

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@ Changed it. Good work!

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#209 :: August 2nd, 2012 @ 4:35 AM

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nothing too exciting, just some DPs I found that are not on the guide yet ;P
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#210 :: August 2nd, 2012 @ 7:21 AM

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And they're added. Thank you so much, really appreciate it!

#211 :: August 3rd, 2012 @ 1:22 AM

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#212 :: August 3rd, 2012 @ 3:24 AM

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the forj combo plus the kusarigama have 2 mod slots each also boosting stops at 400 stats .
Also what tier is the shinwas bracelet , i cant seem find it anywhere or did it get downgraded .
Rapier of error had a small chance for freezing plus the curse alway activated for 5 rounds? has it been removed .
Soma tablets no longer gives out random blessings/curses ?

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#213 :: August 3rd, 2012 @ 10:28 AM

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I added a few things to the first post, answering some common questions I see around.

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Thanks! Added!

#214 :: August 3rd, 2012 @ 11:00 AM

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I'm finding it more and more difficult to locate tiers, because this is such a huge compilation. I love the art, still would it be possible, to have a written headline with the tier in addition to the graphics, so we can search for tiers? Or make all the sections and tiers into like spoiler alert drop downs - even though, then again you would have to open them all in order to search for a specific weapon?

Soma Tablets still work like a charm, maybe you were fighting an opponent with curses/blessings disabled (like Mechalag)?

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#215 :: August 3rd, 2012 @ 11:07 AM

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I was just thinking about that myself. Even in my word document, it's getting hard to find things. With the new system not being dependent on just Tier 9 and up weapons, and the fact that I want to add as much as possible, so the prices keep reasonable (Yeah, there's people that would just buy up weapons that are in the guide to sell them at higher prices), there's turning out to be a LOT more weapons then I thought there would be. REALLY didn't want spoilers, but I think we can at least add text, so you can Control+F and find the tier you want. EDIT: I added searchable text to my tiers.

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Eep! Sorry! Didn't see your post. I think those are all my department.

Fixed the Forj, thank you so much!

Shinwas Strength Bracelet is tier 5. I didn't add it, because it really got downgraded and isn't really worth it. I just might, because it's the only tier 5 that has four mod slots (versus the 6 it used to have), but it only does 13-17 damage, and blocks 1 or 2 of every icon.

I'll have to test the Rapier of Error. Yup, it still gives a blessing, but I don't remember it freezing?

Soma tablets are working for me?

Last Edit by: Echo 8/03/12 - 11:20:20 am

#216 :: August 3rd, 2012 @ 11:18 AM

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Not sure if it's the best solution, but how about a second topic for say, tiers 7 - 12? And keep this topic for tiers 1 - 6. I actively try and avoid loading the first page because it makes my computer lag a bit. It's a brilliant guide, of course, but there's so much of it!

#217 :: August 3rd, 2012 @ 11:23 AM

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Or even just something as simple as making a separate guide for the Legendaries and/or species weapons. Those take up a ton of space.

#218 :: August 3rd, 2012 @ 11:23 AM

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umm i asked if those features have been nerfed with , coz its not listed in the guide about the rapier & soma tablets .

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#219 :: August 3rd, 2012 @ 11:25 AM

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Nah, they're still there. I thought for sure I added the Soma Tablets. I'll fix that now. And the Rapier is Gray's department. Sometimes we don't have time to test all the weapons, and we only write down what we see in the armory. We're still working this all out.

Last Edit by: Echo 8/03/12 - 11:25:57 am

#220 :: August 3rd, 2012 @ 11:27 AM

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ah , thanks

now looking forward to obtaining soma tablets & catching up with malice & rapier at tier 8 *sighs dreamily*

Edit:

you did add soma tablets as a favored weapon but apart from chance to steal & turn opponent item into useless pill box nothing else is listed.

Last Edit by: Anasazi 8/03/12 - 11:29:17 am

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#221 :: August 3rd, 2012 @ 11:32 AM

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I took out a few sections, is it loading faster?

#222 :: August 3rd, 2012 @ 11:41 AM

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Yeah, definitely loaded faster that time.

#223 :: August 3rd, 2012 @ 11:43 AM

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I thought so. I guess I'll just make separate guides later. When the weapons actually work/I figure them out.

#224 :: August 3rd, 2012 @ 4:14 PM

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Thanks, Echo, for considering this. I guess you both never knew, what you were bargaining for, when you decided to write this guide. You're doing such a great job, I guess half of Subeta completely relies on this.

#225 :: August 3rd, 2012 @ 4:15 PM

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Thanks for this thread - I have found it really useful :-)

Just a note though. I have been using Electrifying Goo Net-spitting Honeysuckle Cannon

for quite a while and I can confirm that it is definitely not 100% freeze. Probably more like 90%.

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#226 :: August 3rd, 2012 @ 4:29 PM

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Yup it's completely necessary for me to find out what weapons to use on my lower tiered pets!

#227 :: August 3rd, 2012 @ 7:13 PM

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@'s been doing a ton as well! Though I am glad to hear that people are using it and are being helped by it. Makes it all worthwhile.

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Thank you! To be honest, I didn't test that nearly enough. Five runs of consecutive freezing, and I was like yup! It's a full time freezer! I'll fix that.

Last Edit by: Echo 8/03/12 - 7:14:54 pm

#228 :: August 4th, 2012 @ 2:52 AM

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Pretty Big Tooth has a curse called Toothy Chomp that does 2 dark and 2 earth.

#229 :: August 4th, 2012 @ 7:25 AM

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Thanks! It must be either pretty rare, or they recently added it, because I didn't see it while playing with it yesterday.

#230 :: August 4th, 2012 @ 8:13 AM

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I was wondering, if they had only added the curse over night. Doesn't seem to be rare this morning...

#231 :: August 4th, 2012 @ 2:19 PM

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Just double checking Dripping Gelatin Vial is OPB not one use? I always thought it was one use. Thank you.

#232 :: August 4th, 2012 @ 5:13 PM

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It says Once Per Battle now under the stats. I'll test it quick.

EDIT:

Oh, no! Your Dripping Gelatin Vial has broken for the remainder of this battle!

And it's back in my armory. It's OPB as a weapon. As a stat booster, obviously, it's one use.

Last Edit by: Echo 8/04/12 - 5:15:04 pm

#233 :: August 4th, 2012 @ 5:16 PM

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@Echo Wonderful. Thank you

#234 :: August 4th, 2012 @ 6:11 PM

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I have what is probably a dumb question (I'm still fairly new to battling): Why is the Phoenix Quill tier 1? I would have thought something that gives a 100% heal would be higher up.

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#235 :: August 4th, 2012 @ 6:18 PM

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I am not sure why it is tier 1, but if you think about it, 100% OPB healing isn't too overpowered in any tier. You are healing only as much as your HP and it is not like you have tier 1 pets healing for 2000 HP or anything like that. If anything, I just wonder why reviver of the lion is tier 5 while the slightly superior phoenix quill is tier 1.

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#236 :: August 4th, 2012 @ 6:20 PM

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Thanks! Yeah, I wondered that too. I suppose just because it gives defense against so many different elements? Anyway, I'm happy the quill is such a low tier, and I'm going to go out and buy one right now =)

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#237 :: August 5th, 2012 @ 4:15 AM

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@ I have taken out the Color Bonus weapons as well.

I am miles behind and I'll try to catch up today. >.<

In regards to the guide being hard to read, I agree. How about we show the top ten weapons in any category (steal/freeze/heal/attack) and spoiler the rest? That'll make it a lot more manageable when you scroll and you can still look up all the other weapons if you are so inclined. Really only for the first 6 tiers, the rest have so few it doesn't matter.

Edit:

@ added those weapons in!

Last Edit by: Gray 8/05/12 - 4:34:02 am

#238 :: August 5th, 2012 @ 7:56 AM

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Thanks Echo and Gray for the additional work on making it more readable! *feels guilty for kindling it*

#239 :: August 5th, 2012 @ 11:03 AM

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