To continue with the testing, we have raised the shop limit to 500,000sP.
However, the autopricer still has a limit of 250,000sP :)
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Keith
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High price limits make it harder to afford quest items! I am sick of finding the cheap goods being bought out from all the stores by greedy peoples who want over 100,000sp in their usershops! The inflation is not that bad in the stores, but the USERSTORES ARE TOO EXPENSIVE and make questing an unprofitable and miserable/anger-creating experience! WHY IS EVERYONE PRICING ABOVE THE OFFICIAL PRICES? THAT=GREED/stupid. if you want to get rich, do it the right way! Earn it yourselves by playing games and hording rares and learn how to SAVE!
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Moonbeam
i dont like any of the new limits. i'd rather it was set at 100k...200k at the most.<br />
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most of my trades get terribly undercut and i am losing sP faster than the speed of light.<br />
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items that would sit in trades and eventually sell for 400k or 500k are being tossed into user shops, cut down to 250k or less, and are ruining the economy.
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most of my trades get terribly undercut and i am losing sP faster than the speed of light.<br />
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items that would sit in trades and eventually sell for 400k or 500k are being tossed into user shops, cut down to 250k or less, and are ruining the economy.
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Jasper
I'm not all that pleased by this. A lot of my trades have to be canceled because of undercutting in shops. Which happens at twice the speed of light in comparison to trades. :/<br />
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I'd say make the limit 300K and leave it alone.
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I'd say make the limit 300K and leave it alone.
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BlueGreenGrey
My two cents: Actually, I *love* it. I want to SELL my items, not LOOK at them. AND raising the 250k limit to 500k = <img src="http://images.subeta.org/smilies/6398_emoticon_heart.gif" border="0" /><br />
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Don't worry, you'll all adjust to it eventually. Someday, you won't even know how you lived without it. Oh yeah, I remember - your items worth 500k or less just gathered dust in your trades. And you had to be ONLINE to sell them. Some of us have real lives - not me, but some of you I imagine! XD So you made selling boards in Advertising that were bumped off the front page in 2 minutes or less. And NO SPAMMING or getting your friends to bump it. You priced your trades, got undercut, then repriced, then got undercut again, then repriced your trades again, only to be undercut yet again the next day - and have to look them all up again each and every time. You got offers that were withdrawn 30 seconds later, just long enough to make you THINK you finally sold something. You had people try to tell you that you were overcharging or undercutting. You got total junk, begging offers on your items. You asked people to separate a Quest item, but they didn't answer in time. You reserved items for people who never bid, and when finally asked, they said they changed their mind or bought it elsewhere. You dealt with snarling, snippy traders who bit your head off for something that, unbeknownst to you, was their biggest pet peeve. Most people didn't want to trade your items for their items. They wanted pure sP - which you were trying to make, but your trades wouldn't sell. Oh, plus you had to be ONLINE to sell them. Some of us have real lives - not me, but some of you I imagine! XD<br />
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How could you possibly miss all that? o.O
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Don't worry, you'll all adjust to it eventually. Someday, you won't even know how you lived without it. Oh yeah, I remember - your items worth 500k or less just gathered dust in your trades. And you had to be ONLINE to sell them. Some of us have real lives - not me, but some of you I imagine! XD So you made selling boards in Advertising that were bumped off the front page in 2 minutes or less. And NO SPAMMING or getting your friends to bump it. You priced your trades, got undercut, then repriced, then got undercut again, then repriced your trades again, only to be undercut yet again the next day - and have to look them all up again each and every time. You got offers that were withdrawn 30 seconds later, just long enough to make you THINK you finally sold something. You had people try to tell you that you were overcharging or undercutting. You got total junk, begging offers on your items. You asked people to separate a Quest item, but they didn't answer in time. You reserved items for people who never bid, and when finally asked, they said they changed their mind or bought it elsewhere. You dealt with snarling, snippy traders who bit your head off for something that, unbeknownst to you, was their biggest pet peeve. Most people didn't want to trade your items for their items. They wanted pure sP - which you were trying to make, but your trades wouldn't sell. Oh, plus you had to be ONLINE to sell them. Some of us have real lives - not me, but some of you I imagine! XD<br />
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How could you possibly miss all that? o.O
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500000 is way too much... As others have said 250000 is fine but 500000 is lowering the value of UB's.
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DoctorSong
yeah don't like it people are undercutting big time.. times are going from 500k to 300k real quick :/
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queen
Nuuuuu. I think, as well as many others, this will cause crazy deflation in the 500-600k items, perhaps even the 700k if someone was so daring. =/ I do think 250k is a good amount, not too much but not too low.
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Not really fond of it, I think 250k would be good but 500k is too much. Allows more room for undercutting.
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Diana_Marie
Collection's are a personal thing and can only be worth what you are willing to pay for them. If your collecting just to show how much you spent then you'll lose out 3/4 because nothing on subeta retires. Items are constantly reused making things less valuable. Changing the amount you can price items to save time, effort and frustration for users is always a good thing.
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Shari
I think it is a wonderful idea. I was able to purchase several things off of my wishlist. Many items in trades are way overpriced anyhow, so this is a nice way to even things out. It also helps because more items will actually HAVE a price, eliminating the rudeness of some sellers when you ask for a price. This will not make trades obsolete, you could still ask a seller to take an item instead of sps and set it up through trades. I have already done that and it worked very well. Keep, keep, keep, IMHO
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Jamileigh17
I love it. I detest messing with trades, and so would just shove stuff in my gallery with a for trade note... and things would rarely sell, because I wouldn't waste the time advertizing them! Brilliant, thank you!
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StarGazer772
To me it don't matter how much i gave for my collection I would never part with it because to me its the best no matter how much the items drop.. So no my collection will never be worthless to me. I hope this test stays its awsome*smiles*
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This makes buying and selling items soooooo much easier!!!
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kokoMO
Nah, collections won't be worthless =/ That's why a item a paid 50 mil for is now at 10mil and another I paid about 2mil for is now at 189K , right? <img src="http://images.subeta.org/smilies/6398_emoticon_sigh.gif" border="0" /> So yeah, collections will and ARE becoming worthless. imho =/
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StarGazer772
collections worthless? Never...Mine will always be worth alot to me just gives me more to add to my galleries...I think its great
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puissance0
argh, now it is going to be much harder to trade ITEMS instead of sp. <img src="http://images.subeta.org/smilies/6398_emoticon_sad.gif" border="0" />
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loopa
i like the idea and i hope this works. trades won't work for me since i have IE and neither will auctions, so here's hoping i can get some stuff off my wishlist now.
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kokoMO
This is a Price lowerer's dream <img src="http://images.subeta.org/smilies/6398_emoticon_sigh.gif" border="0" /> I don't believe this is a good idea, it's going to drop items to nothing and make everyone's collections worthless :/
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StarGazer772
I hope it stays this way....I just bought 20 items off my wishlist that was unbuyable before...I'm going back to get more sps out to buy more wishlist items and Christmas presents *smiles*
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Extract
wow....now I'm stunned. I love it of course and I hope this will work out. <img src="http://images.subeta.org/smilies/6398_emoticon_smile.gif" border="0" /> yay.
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Mackenzi
I dunno about it. I haven't experienced any petsite with such a high sP cap on the shop search, but on Subeta it is really easy to get moneys. I hear some people say stuff will deflate too quickly because of undercutters, but I think that isn't likely to happen, seeing as anything worth over 250K isn't going to be that common, and anything that is underpriced will be taken up immediately. I don't like having to look through both the shop search and the trades to check on an item's price, but I suppose that would change eventually if it was kept up long enough.
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TJPanda
This is great for those of us like me who can't see the trades in IE7 and Foxfire <img src="http://images.subeta.org/smilies/6398_emoticon_smile.gif" border="0" />. I've tried with both browsers and it don't work <img src="http://images.subeta.org/smilies/6398_emoticon_happy_sweatdrop.gif" border="0" />. IE7 gives blank pages and Foxfire gives a huge error message that takes up the entire trade page. I can't see the forums in foxfire either but I'm not complaining <img src="http://images.subeta.org/smilies/6398_emoticon_smile.gif" border="0" />. I'm thankful to be able to sell items in my shop since I can't see the trades and the auctions are down <img src="http://images.subeta.org/smilies/6398_emoticon_smile.gif" border="0" />. I think it's great to be able to price items in user shops for up to 500k <img src="http://images.subeta.org/smilies/6398_emoticon_happy.gif" border="0" />.
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puppy7111222
well I'm excited! The trades will not work on my computer so now I can actually get some items <img src="http://images.subeta.org/smilies/6398_emoticon_smile.gif" border="0" /> <br />
Thanks for making it higher!
Thanks for making it higher!
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Lamia_740
I see someone said:<br />
"and soon we won't even need trades"<br />
I don't see that as a bad thing as trades haven't worked for IE for ... a week now? maybe a bit more or a bit less but it's very frustrating. <br />
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I just went birthday shopping for someone and got oh... probably 20 items I would normally have to go through trades to get which would mean.. <br />
1. Searching trades (which I can't do with IE now anyway)<br />
2. Finding the lowest priced one of each of those 20 itmes<br />
3. commenting or smailing 20 different people<br />
4. waiting.. and waiting.... and waiting for a reply<br />
5. haggling with said persons... and possibly finding new sellers<br />
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I got all of that done in under 30 minutes by being able to purchase the items direct from shops.
"and soon we won't even need trades"<br />
I don't see that as a bad thing as trades haven't worked for IE for ... a week now? maybe a bit more or a bit less but it's very frustrating. <br />
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I just went birthday shopping for someone and got oh... probably 20 items I would normally have to go through trades to get which would mean.. <br />
1. Searching trades (which I can't do with IE now anyway)<br />
2. Finding the lowest priced one of each of those 20 itmes<br />
3. commenting or smailing 20 different people<br />
4. waiting.. and waiting.... and waiting for a reply<br />
5. haggling with said persons... and possibly finding new sellers<br />
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I got all of that done in under 30 minutes by being able to purchase the items direct from shops.
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SoupDragon
Ive got some mixed feelings about this.. I think the Auto price should be 500k if you raise the max price to 500k since its gonna be a pain in the ass for people who have a lot off stuff in their shop. And I think its sad that everything is going to deflate, but It maybe will make the economy better. The good thing is that you don't have to do everything in trades, but that was kinda fun too. Ive met a few people though trades and it is always fun talking to someone new, even if it is for a short while. But I think 250k was perfect for me personally. You guys are doing such a great job, I love it that you are trying new stuff like this. (:
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Rum_791
I don't like this at all. I do not have the time nor patience to go manually checking over 100 items to actually be sure that they ARE indeed unbuyable. No, I'm not talking about new items or overly inflated lower rarity items. I could careless about those, sell them buyable all the time. I'm talking about items that HAVE a good rarity. I wouldn't be so against it, if you actually raised the autopricer to match the amount shops can sell for. Autopricer is the only reason I even bother with GAs in the first place.
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Diana_Marie
I personally think it's a good thing.<br />
Instead of blogging down the trades with lower price trades now you can just shop search them.<br />
It will be faster for quests (if they ever pay out good enough) to collect and delete things off wishlists. (Which mine looks like I'm collecting the world.) It's a good thing , trust me =)
Instead of blogging down the trades with lower price trades now you can just shop search them.<br />
It will be faster for quests (if they ever pay out good enough) to collect and delete things off wishlists. (Which mine looks like I'm collecting the world.) It's a good thing , trust me =)
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This is great! I don't really understand why so many people are complaining. o_o; Shops are for selling, trades are for trading and that's the end of it. I see alot of "Unhhh that's what the trades are for *whine*" But TRADE implies item-item in my mind, not SHOP which implies selling. Sure, undercutting will happen, but it already happens on the trades so what's the big deal? I think the trades inflate prices alot in the first place, so a little deflation won't be so bad.<br />
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Plus, everyone on the trades wants pure for all their stuff. Why not just cut out the trade part? I'm sure that's what the staff is thinking and I totally support it.
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Plus, everyone on the trades wants pure for all their stuff. Why not just cut out the trade part? I'm sure that's what the staff is thinking and I totally support it.
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Cobaltbluetoo
This has enbabled me to get a few UB's out of my vault and into my shop, and I'm happy about that. But for heaven's sakes will you please get trades working again for IE users? I think I've been patient, but this has gone on far too long! I have trades rotting and I can't do anything about them, meanwhile their value is decreasing as the days go by. *PLEASE do not tell me to use Firefox, this computer has a conflict that prevents another browser from being downloaded, much less installed. If you really want to be helpful smail me and tell me how to delete the conflict!*
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Galexia
I have to agree with OnceUponaThyme. Low rarity items will be inflated greatly just because they are "new" or because users can price them in their shops now for 500k. But the increase will help when doing quests and hopefully it will take undercutters longer to drag the price down. So it has it's pros and cons.
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Nostalgia_507
Oi...why are they doing this? I dont understand what this will accomplish. Trying to get some items out of the trades?
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RipfangDragon
My opinion: I don't like it. 250K was enough of a hassel to deal with. Undercut prices and deflation is going to KILL a lot of users when they want to buy those 10-20mil items.
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Giannabionda
This will be interesting, but there is always someone who undercut too much the prices = deflation!
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menmeryiset
I love this new change. So many of my lower price items were rotting in trades, no i can price them at a decent price and sell them without the hassle.<br />
To whoever said that it was the autopricer that undercuts, should look again. Its mostly those who price by hand that undercut, to sell the item quickly.
To whoever said that it was the autopricer that undercuts, should look again. Its mostly those who price by hand that undercut, to sell the item quickly.
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Rayen
Personally I like it, items over 500k in trades, less of a hassle, less items I have to put up. Secondly with the number of items in shops if you have a large one (semi large for me) it's nice to drop the under 250k items in there so you don't have to worry about pricing them. As for the others, anything over 250k I'd hand price anyway, I wouldn't let it sell for less then that.
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Rabbit_Insanity
so interesting! I had a card that would not autoprice, figured out its worth 500K. Lets hope someone buys it from me shop for that <img src="http://images.subeta.org/smilies/6398_emoticon_smile.gif" border="0" />
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Ciannwn
I love the limit being back to how it was when I first joined - I never liked it being lowered to 100K. <br />
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Personally I would love to be able to throw all my items in my shop, it would save a hell of a lot of hassle for me. I hate having to sit in the advertising forums day after day trying to sell items. Personally I couldnt care less if people undercut my items in my shop as long as they sold. With the auto pricer, I think there should be the option for users in their shops what price they want to autoprice up to, then everyones happy.
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I like it. Kudos to Keith for trying something new.
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StarGazer772
I love my autopricer...I always use it and I'm happy we have it..I don't care who Undercuts me as long as the buyers thats buying from my shop find what they need *smiles*
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Pam
I think this is a good thing and also since the autopricer won't change the price you can keep it what you want. I use autopricer and sometimes I don't like the way it automatically drops the price by thousands sometimes. For my higher priced items I always self price them it doesn't take that long to do it yourself.<br />
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This is a good thing!
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This is a good thing!
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Ambition
anyone with an y sort of a brain would realize that it is the auto pricer that causes the undercut in price anyways.<br />
so it's really the gold accounts users fault for the heavy undercutting. <br />
Think about it people? The principles of economics and demand and supply!
so it's really the gold accounts users fault for the heavy undercutting. <br />
Think about it people? The principles of economics and demand and supply!
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Ambition
I personally love it.<br />
the SP is worth so little in comparative value. If there are things in the market for sale fore 50mil and up on a regular basis that's got to tell you SOMETHING!!!<br />
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I think the price should stay at 500 SP. And I think auto pricer should never work for that high a number.<br />
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why can't they just get up off their rear and just search it the point click way. It's not that hard or time consuming!!<br />
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the SP is worth so little in comparative value. If there are things in the market for sale fore 50mil and up on a regular basis that's got to tell you SOMETHING!!!<br />
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I think the price should stay at 500 SP. And I think auto pricer should never work for that high a number.<br />
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why can't they just get up off their rear and just search it the point click way. It's not that hard or time consuming!!<br />
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StarGazer772
I can see the items in the trades going between 1 and 20 mill....but the items that are 500k and under should be in the shops instead of just sitting there collecting dust and gives users some sps from selling them.
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DJ
I don't understand the point of raising the sp limit in shops if we can't price it in autopricer. So unless I search every single one of my unbuyables in shop search, they're not going to sell because someone else priced theirs for 500,000, but I can't tell since autopricer worked. The poll for 250,000 sp had an extreme amount of people against it, but you guys raised it anyways, and now to 500k? Seriously, soon we wont even need trades since mostly everything is going to be put buyable in shops.
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awesome! thanks so much. <img src="http://images.subeta.org/smilies/6398_emoticon_grin.gif" border="0" />
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StarGazer772
I know its just a test but shop limit to 500,000sP is a great idea!!! Alot of times when you try to buy from someones trade they are not online so thats a quest that cant be done or gallery items still on the wishlist so I am all for it. *walks off with a grin*
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Yay! This will make things so much easier. Trades take so long to manage.
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ok last comment...<br />
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another thought came to mind.<br />
This in return cause problems for other items. Items which you all have cut down to, say 200k, some will jack up that price to go over the autopricer limit. This is an unfair advantage.... but maybe it is fair. Undercutters slash prices of high rarity items so bad, these items are no longer a challenge to get. Those who have worked hard to get one of those rare items, their hard work has been done in vain, a week later, that item is avail. in shops.<br />
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There's always to sides to the coin. You can't have good without the bad, and vice versa.<br />
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another thought came to mind.<br />
This in return cause problems for other items. Items which you all have cut down to, say 200k, some will jack up that price to go over the autopricer limit. This is an unfair advantage.... but maybe it is fair. Undercutters slash prices of high rarity items so bad, these items are no longer a challenge to get. Those who have worked hard to get one of those rare items, their hard work has been done in vain, a week later, that item is avail. in shops.<br />
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There's always to sides to the coin. You can't have good without the bad, and vice versa.<br />
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<b>Quote:</b><blockquote style="padding:5px; line-height:15px; background-color: #FAFFFF; border: 1px solid #000000; font-family: georgia; font-size: 10;">I like the idea of having a higher shop rate. It's such a pain to go into trades for "smaller" items, especially for quests.</blockquote><br />
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that brings another thought to mind. When you are playing IH - you need to get a 200k item ... you offer on a trade, and most likely you wait a day or two before getting that item. <br />
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I'm not sure about other quests, though. If the Wiz asked for an item over 100k, I'd be skippin that one. <br />
With IH - it makes getting the items quicker and easier.
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that brings another thought to mind. When you are playing IH - you need to get a 200k item ... you offer on a trade, and most likely you wait a day or two before getting that item. <br />
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I'm not sure about other quests, though. If the Wiz asked for an item over 100k, I'd be skippin that one. <br />
With IH - it makes getting the items quicker and easier.
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<b>Quote:</b><blockquote style="padding:5px; line-height:15px; background-color: #FAFFFF; border: 1px solid #000000; font-family: georgia; font-size: 10;">it is outrageously expensive to find the items because everyone plunks them in at the top price allowed.</blockquote><br />
That's the reason for the shop autopricer increase in limit. It puts those items in the shops, which get more traffic than the trading center. With time, many of those items will decrease in value. This is how I've noticed the subetan economical flow to work. It's good to increase autopricer limit because your trades - the ones that are all priced at 300k or less - sitting in your trades, your comment begging people to offer, will get more notice in your shop, and more likely purchased.<br />
Just be happy that when you do get a high priced item, you can put it in /your/ shop.
That's the reason for the shop autopricer increase in limit. It puts those items in the shops, which get more traffic than the trading center. With time, many of those items will decrease in value. This is how I've noticed the subetan economical flow to work. It's good to increase autopricer limit because your trades - the ones that are all priced at 300k or less - sitting in your trades, your comment begging people to offer, will get more notice in your shop, and more likely purchased.<br />
Just be happy that when you do get a high priced item, you can put it in /your/ shop.
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I like the idea of having a higher shop rate. It's such a pain to go into trades for "smaller" items, especially for quests. I mean if all people want is pure for their items anyways, then the shops are the best bet. I like being able to just hit a shop and buy an item, even if I spend a little more on it to get it. It's the convenience of getting it immediately and not having to wait for a possible rejection.
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I think this is a good idea. There are hundreds of items collecting dust in the trade center. Putting these in shops most likely will make the purchase of said items more frequent than the offers on these items in trades.<br />
This is a way of purging the trading post - all the DP items that decline in value rapidly, but sit in trades - dozens of them - this will help clear up clutter and make more rare items noticeable. <br />
Thanks for testing this. In my opinion, I think it's a good idea.
This is a way of purging the trading post - all the DP items that decline in value rapidly, but sit in trades - dozens of them - this will help clear up clutter and make more rare items noticeable. <br />
Thanks for testing this. In my opinion, I think it's a good idea.
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RhiAnna
OK wait. I know part of the community is reluctant for this 200K sP shop limit. I'm kind of reluctant to change myself. However, IF you think about it .. with those of us who do alot of the questing in Subeta, Trades/Auctions/Haggling via sMail does not allow sufficient time to acquire some of the items. Sooo .. with the new 200K sP limit some of those very quest items will be easier to get.<br />
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Again, this change can go either way. It can benefit or it can be a hassle. It is entirely up to each individual to make that decision.
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Again, this change can go either way. It can benefit or it can be a hassle. It is entirely up to each individual to make that decision.
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Innerdarkness
I think my only gripe is that they are testing this during advent season, so if a person misses a day, it is outrageously expensive to find the items because everyone plunks them in at the top price allowed.
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MurDerWolf
yes the autopricer should be updated together with the maximum off the shop limit :s it would make the fact off the autopricer useless if you can price all your items
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Brilliant change, I only hope the autopricer will follow quickly.
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OnceUponaThyme
People keep saying that it's going to cause deflation, but meanwhile alot of items are currently INFLATED by users...It's ridiculous that an R60 sells for more than 100k... yet there are some that are asking upwards of 1 mil for them. Just because an item is new does not mean that it's worth millions. It simply means that it is New! Granted - supply and demand have alot to do with it, but even in the real world prices deflate after the newness has worn off *points to the Wii* Eventually the Xbox will probably come down to the $250 price range as well, yet I'm sure that you all aren't complaining about that...<br />
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I think the new shop limit is great -- I can't name how many times I've needed something for a quest, and by the time I got an answer on trades the quest was over already... Hopefully this will eliminate that problem. Keep up the good work, Keith <img src="http://images.subeta.org/smilies/6398_emoticon_smile.gif" border="0" />
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I think the new shop limit is great -- I can't name how many times I've needed something for a quest, and by the time I got an answer on trades the quest was over already... Hopefully this will eliminate that problem. Keep up the good work, Keith <img src="http://images.subeta.org/smilies/6398_emoticon_smile.gif" border="0" />
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PhoenixRose
I'm a little wary about the new shop limit, but honestly, it'll be sweet in the long run.<br />
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After all, now I don't have to make an offer on someone's trade and wait five zillion years for them to get back to me. xD;
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After all, now I don't have to make an offer on someone's trade and wait five zillion years for them to get back to me. xD;
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goofy_312
I like this ideal so much considering I havent been able to do auctions for awhile and trades dont work for me half the time.
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Vibe
I guess we will see a further deflation because of that. 250k was ok, but 500k.. don't really know if this is a good thing.
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_st3phanie_
I found the price increase great for quest, it's very frustrating waiting for trade ..and I have spent alot more on quests since the price went upto 250K ..<br />
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I hope it works and we can keep the higher prices for our shop..
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I hope it works and we can keep the higher prices for our shop..
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John
Keith, we do like /some/ of the update you guys do, but to change the usershops limit that high, it's a big jump dear. It would probably have been better if y'all made it to about 150k- 200k? <br />
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I see what you mean by the trades and all.<br />
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...but shouldn't we be bringing more focus towards the Auctions? =<br />
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Anyways, I've said my part, and I will end it here.
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I see what you mean by the trades and all.<br />
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...but shouldn't we be bringing more focus towards the Auctions? =<br />
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Anyways, I've said my part, and I will end it here.
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Crystle
No matter what kind of change, things will be unstable for a while. Thats a fact of life. That'll balance out, sooner or later. X3<br />
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Even when the shop limit was just 100k, I wouldn't bother searching in trades for anything slightly higher than that, I'd wait for them to deflate so they'd be put in shops. The 250k limit made it a lot easier, and this change to 500k will probably do so as well over time.
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Even when the shop limit was just 100k, I wouldn't bother searching in trades for anything slightly higher than that, I'd wait for them to deflate so they'd be put in shops. The 250k limit made it a lot easier, and this change to 500k will probably do so as well over time.
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Jill_643
I love the new limit! *squishes Keith with big hugs*. That means that I should be able to do my quests without having to hope that someone is online to trade with! <br />
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And I concur, trades really do imply item for item. If you give money for an item that's considered buying, not trading. <img src="http://images.subeta.org/smilies/6398_emoticon_raspberry.gif" border="0" />
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And I concur, trades really do imply item for item. If you give money for an item that's considered buying, not trading. <img src="http://images.subeta.org/smilies/6398_emoticon_raspberry.gif" border="0" />
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Cass
I really like this new system. I've made more sP from selling items in shops than I have in weeks. People just don't bother to go to trades for 300k items as much anymore. It makes it nice for quests like Pete, too. XD
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RhiAnna
Interesting ... If the concept stays it stays. In a way, it does make looking for some key items easier. <img src="http://images.subeta.org/smilies/6398_emoticon_wink.gif" border="0" /> Though it may unbalance the existing economy, but .. that fluctuates to extremes as it is. LOL
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Crystle
I've always found that the Trades were used for trading items and things back and forth.<br />
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A lot of people just want pure, and when their items are in the 500k range, why shouldn't we just be aloud to sell them in shops?<br />
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'Undercutters' will strike no matter what. They have been for years now, no matter what the price limit in shops is.
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A lot of people just want pure, and when their items are in the 500k range, why shouldn't we just be aloud to sell them in shops?<br />
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'Undercutters' will strike no matter what. They have been for years now, no matter what the price limit in shops is.
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Keith
John, anything we do will get players miffed. They're the ones that don't liek change.<br />
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The trades are for item-item trading. Hence, being called trades.
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The trades are for item-item trading. Hence, being called trades.
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Tammy
I think putting "UB" in shops may be ok But I am against having the auto pricer do anything over 100k, that is what is causing the deflation, not having the limit raised.
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I really like the feature. It's a pain to have to wait for tons of people to get online, when you could buy from their shop right away. It's really, really nice. ^^;
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DaringSpirit
This is a good idea for those that can't access the trades because of the various glitches. However, the undercutters will strike - as they always do - but it just means I can get my hands on items that I wouldn't normally stand a chance of getting.
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John
Ugh. This is getting aggravating. I mean, the trades are meant for things like this, this crap that y'all are doing with the shops is ruining the economy, and obviously getting players miffed, but apparently thats the goal that subeta wants.
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KadoTheCat
Thank you. I am liking this feature a whole lot, and I hope it becomes a permanent feature. Now if only Binxes _were_ selling for 500k.... <img src="http://images.subeta.org/smilies/6398_emoticon_wink.gif" border="0" />
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Kim_712
I'll give it a whirl, might be easier than trying to fight with trades during my only online time...
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Crystle
I like the idea of raising the price limit in Shops. Its really very helpful for those of us that dont have the time to be online all the time to take care of our trades. I know that even I dont usually offer on trades unless the person is online at the moment. Quicksales are just a lot easier.<br />
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So, thanks a bunch. This is really helpful. n___n
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So, thanks a bunch. This is really helpful. n___n
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CastlesInTheSky
stupid<br />
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come soon nothing will be considered a ub<br />
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prices will drop on Junk thats pose to be worth more than others
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come soon nothing will be considered a ub<br />
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prices will drop on Junk thats pose to be worth more than others
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Mesic
Exquisite, if you get down to it, aren't the Trades really for item-to-item trades and large lots? Its a nice bonus that we can use the Trades to sell expensive items for Pure, but I really don't think that was the original purpose of the Trade system. :3
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oKissyo
Hmmm I think that's just a tad too much. 250k was more than enough. Pretty soon you'll decide to get rid of trades and add the tax thing.<br />
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Bah!
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Bah!
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Evy
Though as another user pointed out, the holiday season might not be the best time to test this out, as prices go all over the place with people rushing to buy christmas presents. Perhaps the real effect will only be visible mid or end january.
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Arrelie
This works out nicely since I can't access the trades to do anything anyway. Now I can sell more things without having to worry about dealing with the trades.<img src="http://images.subeta.org/smilies/6398_emoticon_smile.gif" border="0" />
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Mesic
Hurrah, thank you!!!<br />
This actually REALLY helps out, since I was putting off pricing my 500k and under trades in favour of selling more expensive items, trying to make money for Christmas presents. x3<br />
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I'll be bombing my friends with presents in NO TIME now.
This actually REALLY helps out, since I was putting off pricing my 500k and under trades in favour of selling more expensive items, trying to make money for Christmas presents. x3<br />
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I'll be bombing my friends with presents in NO TIME now.
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Tonks
humm interesting... as long as it don't create deflation and no taxes I think it's nice... I,m even using it for my little UB...
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exquisite
i thought that this was what trades were for! <img src="http://images.subeta.org/smilies/6398_emoticon_sad.gif" border="0" />
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Elijah
Haha, cool. <img src="http://images.subeta.org/smilies/6398_emoticon_smile.gif" border="0" /><br />
Me likes selling things in my shop. Trades take so long. xD
Me likes selling things in my shop. Trades take so long. xD
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Hmm, can be a good thing. <img src="http://images.subeta.org/smilies/6398_emoticon_happy_sweatdrop.gif" border="0" /> We'll see what happens, I think a couple of my trade items are around 500K, would be nice if I finally got rid of them XD
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Evy
Not to sure about the first higher limit in the first place, but I'm willing to give it some more time to see how this will go.
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Midnight_916
Hmm =/ This is going to create further deflation <img src="http://images.subeta.org/smilies/6398_emoticon_sad.gif" border="0" />
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interesting! well.. this may be easier <img src="http://images.subeta.org/smilies/6398_emoticon_smile.gif" border="0" />
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