IT IS TIME TO BATTLE

What's this? The battle coliseum is back! The battling revamp is now 99%* complete! Before you go battle crazy, check out the list of everything that has been changed while the coliseum has been down.

:star: All opponents have had their logs (wins/loses/ties) reset. What's this mean? It means you can battle everything again for more loot!
:star: All permanent opponents, not including the Paramnesia challengers, now have loot past 10 wins.
:star: Weapon loot drops for challengers before 2024 (and a few other opponents) have been retired from the opponents and moved to achievements where one additional copy can be won.
:star: Freeze rates have gone down on opponent weapons and scrolls.
:star: Eggs!!! All easy and medium difficulty opponents (normal, secret, CS) drop more egg boosters to give small pets those big gains!
:star: Leeches in the battle shop are now 1 token instead of 10.

*The last 1% will be discussed on the battling changelog here!
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Posted by Amber

Load this on 🆕 Kumos site
Sorcerer
@Purge
RIP ☠️

Excited to check out the new updates though, thanks!
Purge STAFF
@Sorcerer
Not that I'm aware of :(
Sorcerer
@Purge
Is there a way to view pre-reset win/draw/loss stats? I didn't have a chance to archive them for my petpage :(
Life
I'm so happy (:
Thanks for all your hard work, everyone!
Cerredwyn
Thanks everyone who worked hard to make the changes, I'm loving getting more books. I also would like a quick stock option for deleting the eggs, since none of my pets can use them. My little family of 19 are all tier 7 thru 11 and I don't plan on having any new members join the flock. So, as someone else said--my inventory is getting very eggy, and I've barely battled! :) I would also enjoy being able to donate or give them away. Thanks in advance for considering this.
Targaryen
I think it sucks making Cash Challengers into achievement holders! I never understood why they did it before except to make their weapons more rare! We paid for these challengers. I see why people got pissed over this last reset!
Thank you for at least letting us get another copy of the retired Cash Shop achievement challenger!
smilesnz
Yaya time to battle them again and thanks for all the work team :)
Darkrai
@StarShadow you can also delete the eggs? Since you wanted to put them in a gallery I figured you wanted to keep them. And they're edible if you have a gourmand.

Batista, Bubbles, Kain, Reischen, and Possessed Maleria look like the non-CSC challengers with new achievements. Achievements were only added for opponents that drop weapons
StarShadow
@Darkrai
Thanks for that information. Will put it on my calendar. Not sure what tossing the eggs into my vault will do since I'm not planning on my new pets. And it looks like I won't be able to do most of the battle achievements because they aren't showing up in the challenge page so they must be CSC.
Darkrai
@StarShadow the Captain Fishbreath Jacques achievement is for his Keelhauliday version

and for what it's worth, the eggs can be shoved into your vault
StarShadow
Not sure what to do with the eggs since my lowest pet is tier 4 & I can't put them in my gallery. Also are all of the achievements not set up yet? I've beaten fish breath more than 10 times with 2 different pets and achievements still says 0/10 & I don't have the title.
Chocolate
My inventory is getting very eggy. I previous egg consumer might tier out soon!
indica
while throwing my pets at the egg-dropping opponents, i noticed a couple of the medium opponents didn't drop any eggs - erdoo, waradorstiltskin, and possessed mattieu. battled erdoo at least one more time on a different pet to see if that was a fluke, no eggs - intentional or missed opponents in the egg sweep? :sweat_smile:
BoaConstrictor
Thanks to the Brooch loot I've only recently noticed, I can actually put the eggs into vault. But why does it have to be by hand? Why can't we quickstock them? With the masses coming in now, that's like a new punishment for battlers!
lovey
<3 seeing all the old chars in the bc ,,... Js ikicta
Marlboro
I think the retired CSC challenger loot has to be replaced by a new item or at least some CSC reimbursement, these challengers are not worth the CSC we paid for them anymore, and some were paid a few months ago in 2023.
seltocgirl
Great, thank you! :)
kaliope
So exciting, I need to check it asap! Thanks for all the hard work you put into it!
Allegria
@Jakkalope

It happened last time there was a reset as well. I think it's to stop people with 20 high tier pets being able to go through and getting 20 expensive high tier weapons a second time.

Personally, I find it annoying that I pay money for new challengers that I may not even be able to beat yet with the expectation that when I've trained my pets to a high enough level each one of them will be capable of winning all of the loot. I can see restrictions like this on normal or secret challengers, but to put them on cash shop challengers after buying them really rubs me the wrong way as someone who has purchased each and every one.
Jakkalope
(WRT my previous comment: like, I genuinely assume there's some balancing or economic reason behind the change, I'm just dumb and it's not obvious to me.)
Jakkalope
What is the reasoning behind making weapons achievement prizes (and thus one-offs) instead of loot drops? This is a genuine question because I'm a big dumbdumb!

Since most of the weapon drops are outclassed by the time you can get them (like, IME, most half-useful weapon drops are at least one or two tiers below the tier you realistically need to be at to consistently beat the challenger); it always seemed like their purpose was to gear up other battle pets if you've the patience to train more than one pet, or, more realistically, to sell off to people whose pets are actually at that tier; but reducing them to achievement drops necessarily cuts off the ability to get duplicates and thus disincentivizes selling them.

Or am I missing something?
Julie
@Amber @Purge
What do you think about a stat draining function in the pools. Say we have 100 speed leeches and you use that function to delete the stats we want to redefine. Just thinking outside the box.
Julie
@Purge
Thanks for all the work. Now to slowly start grinding out 10 battles. lol.
Jess
@Draken Some of the very old loot items don’t have a rarity of 170. It’s not unusual, but can be annoying.

@PrincessJudith You are correct! And the eggs are stat boosters that only work on pets in tiers 1-3.
PrincessJudith
Am I correct that I can take my time and battle everyone over again? And can someone tell me what the eggs do??? I have tons of them now
oilbird
How exciting!! Thank you guys!! <3 <3 <3
Draken
did I miss something or does Cursed Irion not have challenger loot items? the 3 things I got that could potentially be all say 'special'
Amber STAFF
@Jamileigh17 I know we add loot to older regular/event/secret challengers but I don't think we've done additional loot to cash shop challengers before. I'll talk logistics with Purge about it. :eyes:
Darkrai
@PrincessJudith the spreadsheet link is on this thread: Topic: 1P Loot tracker - Collaboration Project
FCoD
Are we ever going to be able to use Quick Stock to delete the eggs?
PrincessJudith
I believe there is a spread sheet of prizes for each opponent going out to over 250 battles if a prize is awarded. Maybe someone can post it here. That would be a huge help
Jamileigh17
For the opponents who had weapons removed from their loot, would it make sense to give them something else to replace it? Just thinking it kinda sucks to beat, say, Crithbolcan , and get a cheap minion and that's it.
frederick
Actually, looking back, it was available for a whopping 15 days. lol
kokoMO
:heart: staff involved.

What is the name of that wintery opp again?
Balloon
looks at post
looks at my retired battle pet's old weapons sitting in my shop
looks at post again
Sigh. Sorry, Tak, but you're coming out of retirement.
Amber STAFF
That's a good point, @frederick. I'll talk with Purge about it. Especially since the BC was closed most of the time it was available. I truly didn't think about that when adding the achievements last night.
KermitEsper
LET'S GOOOOOOOO-

Thank you for all your hard work! :D
Francine
YAY!!
frederick
I'm kind of ticked that I didn't have time to fight that challenger that was out for like 20 days has its loot now locked as achievement rewards.
Allegria
Ugh. I should have done some more loot farming before the change to weapon loot drops.
gemajgall
Yay, thanks!
Damon
Thank you! Happy battling folks!
StarShadow
Great now I can finally do battle quests again to get the froth. Doubt I will have time to go back & figure out which ones to battle again. Good luck to all.
Nogami
ALL HAIL THE BUNNY MECHA
jKat
Thankyou so much.
I love you all xx
Hunger
I never used to be big into battling before, but I'm still excited and happy about this!
Thank you! <3
BoaConstrictor
Thanks, guys!
Amber STAFF
oh I wasn't aware of that page @Jess. will mess around!
Saturnine
ooh I don't battle but it's nice, this didn't take so long, have fun!
Lyn
Thank you Amber and Jason for bringing back the BC to us! <3
youngexplorer
And aawaay we go!!
Jess
@Amber The high score tables are still showing our old wins
For example: https://subeta.net/games/battle/scores.php?enemy=10
Are you able to clear them?
Tinkerbabe
How exciting!!! Thanks!!!!! :D
Efferd
nice, I got approx. 15 days before my next hiatus, let's see what I can do until then...
Kris
Thank you for all your hard work :)
indica
as an aside: thank you for giving me an excuse to finally unlock the MC challengers <3
Cresenta
Let's GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

Katala
Thank you then as well @Purge for the purge!!
Sweetheart
awesome!
Adina
Thank you for all your hard work!!!
Amber STAFF
@Katala I did very little, this was mostly Purge
Fenren
YAAAAYYYYYYY let's go back to punching stuff!!!
indica
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Katala
Yay thank you Amber and crew!!
ColdDragon
Joooooooooooooooooy! Time to kill all the things!
Despair
IT IS TIME

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