After a few minutes of lackluster sales, the Millionaire Center has gone against its better judgment, and put the price down to 15,000,000sP.
You'd better hurry ;)
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Keith
Solar_491
Yes, you have a point there, OnceUponaThyme <img src=http://www.subeta.org/images/smilies/6398_emoticon_smile.gif border=0> People who shop at Subeatique for example are indeed better off with a card like that! And ow - no i wasn't trying to talk anyone off buying the card, i appologize if my post has come accross as if i was! I was just doing some math but only took into account average restocking habits and didn't want to offend anyone who really wanted and bought, and finally profited by this card <img src=http://www.subeta.org/images/smilies/6398_emoticon_smile.gif border=0> Indeed, kudos to those who have mastered the trade - no pun intended ;°)
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Kisrah
I got mine last time it was made available in the Millionaire Center, and I think it was worth it. If you like to make sP out of restocking, you'll probably find this a good item to own in the long run. <img src=http://www.subeta.org/images/smilies/6398_emoticon_smile.gif border=0>
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OnceUponaThyme
Mallowwater - if you're against the discount card, fine... but I don't see why you're trying to talk everyone out of it.
Yes, it is true if you only buy items that are 500sp or cheaper that it's going to take a long time to recoup your 15 mil... however, if you buy items that are priced in shop in the 100k range, then each time you do so you save around 30k - after 500 purchases your discount card is paid for, and for the better restockers who can typically restock between 1 and 4 of those 100k items per day, you've paid for it in only a few months with the money you've saved.
It doesn't take long to make it back, and for those who are die-hard restockers the cards come in VERY useful...
Yes, it is true if you only buy items that are 500sp or cheaper that it's going to take a long time to recoup your 15 mil... however, if you buy items that are priced in shop in the 100k range, then each time you do so you save around 30k - after 500 purchases your discount card is paid for, and for the better restockers who can typically restock between 1 and 4 of those 100k items per day, you've paid for it in only a few months with the money you've saved.
It doesn't take long to make it back, and for those who are die-hard restockers the cards come in VERY useful...
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JunsuiSilly
thats not so bad.<img src=http://www.subeta.org/images/smilies/6398_emoticon_happy.gif border=0>
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User not found:
Total Sales: 467
Total Profits: 5,008,246 sP
-blah- I think I will pass on this one xD. would take me 9 weeks to break even on it...ROFL...wait o_O...but everyone else is quoting longer o_O. maybe this may be worth it *sigh* -confused- will have to think.
Total Profits: 5,008,246 sP
-blah- I think I will pass on this one xD. would take me 9 weeks to break even on it...ROFL...wait o_O...but everyone else is quoting longer o_O. maybe this may be worth it *sigh* -confused- will have to think.
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Stwingard
its also for those 100k-200k restockes in weapon you save like 30k-60k each time you restocker something that expensive
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waterfall
Yea but if you're saving money with this, by the time it goes out of the shop, you've made some money off it already through the shops, and you can sell the card again. <img src=http://www.subeta.org/images/smilies/6398_emoticon_grin.gif border=0>
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Solar_491
2GodBtheGlory - I'm going to paste here a part of the message i sent to Paintinglies:
I think that people fail to see that yes it is very possible to earn a million a day through restocking but no it's not because of that discount. The discount only lessens your expenditure by the amount that is irrelevant given the item's selling price. People are mislead thinking that selling a bargain for a lot of money has made the trouble worth while: you make the profit out of selling anyway. If you pay 70 sp instead of 100 sp for a cheap plushie and sell it for 19000 sp you still have made the profit you would initially have - the only thing is you have saved your 30 sp. The thing is, these 30 sp will have to be repeated lots and lots of times to reach the infamous 15 mil.
It is out of all these 30 sps put together in the to-pay-off-the-discount-card fund that you are trying to make up for the invested 15 mil, and not out of the high rarity items you are aiming for to sell. That is why it is so pointless. Can you see my point? <img src=http://www.subeta.org/images/smilies/6398_emoticon_smile.gif border=0>
I think that people fail to see that yes it is very possible to earn a million a day through restocking but no it's not because of that discount. The discount only lessens your expenditure by the amount that is irrelevant given the item's selling price. People are mislead thinking that selling a bargain for a lot of money has made the trouble worth while: you make the profit out of selling anyway. If you pay 70 sp instead of 100 sp for a cheap plushie and sell it for 19000 sp you still have made the profit you would initially have - the only thing is you have saved your 30 sp. The thing is, these 30 sp will have to be repeated lots and lots of times to reach the infamous 15 mil.
It is out of all these 30 sps put together in the to-pay-off-the-discount-card fund that you are trying to make up for the invested 15 mil, and not out of the high rarity items you are aiming for to sell. That is why it is so pointless. Can you see my point? <img src=http://www.subeta.org/images/smilies/6398_emoticon_smile.gif border=0>
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Lor
Urg.. I bought one. Losing 15 mill made me feel sick, and now I'm down to 5 mill. *siiiigh* I just gotta keep telling myself that it's worth it... down the road...
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Marlene
I need to come up with 15 mill before they take it away again <img src=http://www.subeta.org/images/smilies/6398_emoticon_sweatdrop.gif border=0>
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Freak_387
price bump = not a bad thing. afterall back when it was 3.5 the average subeta user had 15k, when it returned at 5 million the average user had 55k, now the average user has over 670ksP so 15mil seems perfectly fine for the card.
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How long does the card last for?
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QueenZelly
Well I just bought one. I've been waiting for it for a long time. For me it's a good investment even though I don't RS every day. 1) I plan to stay with Subeta for a long time and I'll be able to use this forever and ever and 2) it makes an awesome collector's item just in case I ever want to sell in the distant future. <img src=http://www.subeta.org/images/smilies/6398_emoticon_smile.gif border=0>
And I love getting discounts on my purchases. <img src=http://www.subeta.org/images/smilies/6398_emoticon_grin.gif border=0>
And I love getting discounts on my purchases. <img src=http://www.subeta.org/images/smilies/6398_emoticon_grin.gif border=0>
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Mackenzi
I think I'll buy one off somebody once I get to 70mill... And I thought I could buy anything with 20mill, but that's just too much... Grr.
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User not found:
Thanks, Mallowwater, for explaining this item. I am holding off on buying one.
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Alpes
I'm selling mine for 14,5 mil <img src=http://www.subeta.org/images/smilies/6398_emoticon_smile.gif border=0>
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topizots
It all depends on how good a restocker you are! <img src=http://www.subeta.org/images/smilies/6398_emoticon_wink.gif border=0>
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Mara
Actually, I can buy several items in one day for 300 sP or less, and sell each one for 4-10k+... I can make 2 mil per day (and I've done it before), would this be a good investment for me? ^^;;
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Of course, that is assuming you aim for all the cheap items. Skilled restockers can take the initial shock to their wallet and with a handful of high rarity items restocked (also taking the current high levels of inflation for said items) the earning power bursts exponentially. It's all in how you look at it. Personally, I aim for higher rarity items. :3 There's a tool for teaching yourself that on DB.
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Cadence
After reading <label title="header=User invalid body=[<center><img src="http://www.subeta.org/images/icons/gold.gif><b>Mallowwater</b><br />Member<br /><b>Name</b>: <img src=http://www.subeta.org/images/avatars/cra/crabenicut.png><br /><b>Posts</b>: 186<br />"]" class="tip"><a href="/users/Mallowwater"><img src="http://www.subeta.org/images/icons/gold.gif" border="0">Mallowwater</a></font></label>'s breakdown there is just no way I can justify blowing 15mil on that thing. Good thing I didn't purchase it the second it was released, I'd be kicking myself now if I had =
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Solar_491
And even then, you don't make a profit, you are on ground zero lol <img src=http://www.subeta.org/images/smilies/6398_emoticon_smile.gif border=0>
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Solar_491
A restocker who buys approx. 100 items a day from shops, at the approx. price of 500 sp per item, invests 50 k in that day's restocking, which is 1.5 mil in a month, or 18 mil in a year. With the 30% discount the average cipher will drop to 350 sp per bought item, making the daily restock expenditure 35 k, which is 1.05 mil a month, or 12.6 mil a year.
Thus, a restocker who buys 100 items a day in average, priced at 500 sp in average, using the discount card will save 5.4 mil a year.
Logic comands: NO WAY it is worth it. It will probably pay off after months and months of restocking, but i wouldn't call that a profit?? To be more exact, it will take one just under 3 years to make up for the purchase of the 30% discount card, unless one is a restocking machine in which case if 200 items a day are restocked you will be able to do it in 2 years time, or in 'only' a year if you restock 300 items EVERY DAY. A slow rate income like that can never compensate for the loss of 15 million in a single purchase.
Thus, a restocker who buys 100 items a day in average, priced at 500 sp in average, using the discount card will save 5.4 mil a year.
Logic comands: NO WAY it is worth it. It will probably pay off after months and months of restocking, but i wouldn't call that a profit?? To be more exact, it will take one just under 3 years to make up for the purchase of the 30% discount card, unless one is a restocking machine in which case if 200 items a day are restocked you will be able to do it in 2 years time, or in 'only' a year if you restock 300 items EVERY DAY. A slow rate income like that can never compensate for the loss of 15 million in a single purchase.
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Todd
You've Purchased:
30 Percent Discount Card for 15,000,000
Thanks for your business!
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<img src=http://www.subeta.org/images/smilies/6398_emoticon_heart.gif border=0> I've been moaning for it's return for months
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30 Percent Discount Card for 15,000,000
Thanks for your business!
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<img src=http://www.subeta.org/images/smilies/6398_emoticon_heart.gif border=0> I've been moaning for it's return for months
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User not found:
hmm, I bought one, and guess I'll put my 20% discount card into trades.
I paid $30 for it from cash shop
I paid $30 for it from cash shop
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Petcollector
If you do the math, you will have to spend 50 mil in the shops before you break even. Unless you restock 24/7, you would do better with the 15 mil in the bank.
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Cilan
Haha! Same here =p I'm like, I'll save these items and resell them 2 years to get huge profits. But then I'm like, dang... 2 years is so long! *sells now* lol XD This card set me back 15 mil from my God Weapon. Meh.
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User not found:
Well, I realize that too, but frankly, I'm impatient. XD
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Cilan
I'm buying it just for the memories of the card XD The profit is bonus. And anyways, the card is forever lol. So as long as you restock and don't quit, then you will make profit in the end.
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User not found:
Well, you misunderstood me a bit, but nevertheless. I can do quite a bit of restocking. I also spend at a phenominal rate, which is why I've made over a hundred million in sales, yet I never seem to have over five million. However, I don't spend a lot on the items themselves. That's why I wouldn't generate much in what I save compared to the normal profit I make. I think I'd rather just have the 15mil. <img src=http://www.subeta.org/images/smilies/6398_emoticon_smile.gif border=0>
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ColdDragon
I probably won't bother buying it then. Thanks a lot for the info, you just saved my 15 mil.
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BlueGreenGrey
No, this doesn't give you training discounts, but having a GA gives you 15% off training costs. The ONLY thing the DC works for is buying things out of the Official Main Shops, like Book Nook and Toy Box and Subetique, etc.
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BlueGreenGrey
Oh, I agree, Sky! If you don't do much with RSing, don't invest such a huge amount. This is just a way to make the wealthy invest 15 or 20mil on the hopes that they'll make it back. Also, once it retires from the MC, you could sell it for at least what you paid for it, if you started using it and decided that it's not worth it for your particular situation/buying habits. Also: PLEASE do not spend your last sP on something like this - then you won't have much for RSing OR Quests or anything, really. Don't leave yourself broke; only buy it if you feel you can afford to invest 15mil on something that could take months or a year or more to make a definite return on!
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Illucoran
I'll pass, so far I only restock items that got at 1000 or below and it took me half a year to get my restocking royalty counter to 1000 it would take like a couple years for it to pay for itself...
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ColdDragon
I'm guessing the discount doesn't apply to training courses for your pet. Or I'm I wrong?
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User not found:
Considering that I make most of my money off of items costing 1000 or less that sell for at least ten, if not twenty or more times that, and with what I'm capable of turning out in a day if I try, I'd barely notice the savings. It's not for all RSers unless you want to spend all of your time worrying about your savings.
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BlueGreenGrey
It wouldn't make sense for it to cost 5mil like it used to - that was well over a year ago, sP was worth more because it was harder to make. It took a LONG time to get 5mil saved up. A 1 Month GA cost 55k, no joke. They went to 100k and people freaked! Back then, I sold a Micracle Potion II for 1.3mil - which was a huge, huge, HUGE amount back then. A vast fortune, one of the most expensive Potions out there. Compared to the inflation rate, and how easy it is for a newbie to amass several million sP, these DC's should actually be more like 30mil or more. Seriously.<br /><br />
If you don't know whether to buy or not, ask yourself this: Do you RS? If so, you need a DC, the savings really add up, fast! On an item selling for 10k, you'd offer 8500, and watch almost 3000 come off the final price. Instant savings of over 4k!<br />
<br />If you don't RS, don't buy one - it would take you years to make back your investment. But for us RSers, it's worth every single sP we spent!
If you don't know whether to buy or not, ask yourself this: Do you RS? If so, you need a DC, the savings really add up, fast! On an item selling for 10k, you'd offer 8500, and watch almost 3000 come off the final price. Instant savings of over 4k!<br />
<br />If you don't RS, don't buy one - it would take you years to make back your investment. But for us RSers, it's worth every single sP we spent!
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User not found:
It will take you a long time to get 15 mil out of interest alone. I know for a fact because at 5% interest a day I'm making about 60k a day being richest sp user currently.
Yes, they only work in main subeta shops. Not the millionare center etc.
Yes, they only work in main subeta shops. Not the millionare center etc.
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GotRice
Even if it doesn't pay off that quickly, it's still a fun item to have <img src=http://www.subeta.org/images/smilies/6398_emoticon_happy.gif border=0>
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BoaConstrictor
You'd have to restock 24/7 - and if you restock that much to make this pay off, you make enough profit with your sales, anyway. I fail to see the use of such a huge investment - rather collect dayly interest for 15 mio, lol.
Do the shops still grant the normal 15 % from the 30% reduced price?
Do the shops still grant the normal 15 % from the 30% reduced price?
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Prestige
Anyone who intends to make their main profit from restocking should own this item.
Nuff said.
Nuff said.
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starfish
BGG you are really swaying me... and I checked and I have RSEd just over 10,000 items since I've started playing, LOL... all the waiting I've done for this and now to be so uncertain, arghhhh
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User not found:
Eh, I think I'll take my chances.
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User not found:
I think it should only cost 5 mill like the old days
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topizots
ARGH! I just bought one for 20 million and lost 5 million!!! <img src=http://www.subeta.org/images/smilies/6398_emoticon_sad.gif border=0> <img src=http://www.subeta.org/images/smilies/6398_emoticon_sad.gif border=0> I guess that's my bad luck.....
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GotRice
Ach, I've been convinced. Thanks, Bluegreengrey :3 I guess I could always sell it again if I was unsatisfied with it.
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BlueGreenGrey
It's always a gamble - buy now, when the price might drop again? Or buy now, because they might just retire instead? Buy now because we don't know how long they'll be in the MC? Only you can decide for yourself if you want to wait and see if the price drops again. I'm willing to wager that it doesn't, though <img src=http://www.subeta.org/images/smilies/6398_emoticon_smile.gif border=0>
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Fearless
Well hopefully it'll still be there in the morning... 4 hrs 44 min left <img src=http://www.subeta.org/images/smilies/6398_emoticon_sad.gif border=0>
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GotRice
I want to buy one, but it'll suck if they lower it even more some time soon.
Or if they decide to remove it right when I'm about to buy xP
Or if they decide to remove it right when I'm about to buy xP
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Jeryn
Id would be supremely ticked if the price dropped to 5m, especially after I just paid for one..
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BlueGreenGrey
Actually, Cash Shop carried the 20% DC for awhile, but not the 30% that I ever saw. And the 20% was $30 cash, I believe. Which made these 30% DC's impossible to touch for less than 30mil or so. It's worth it if you RS - if you rarely to never RS, this item is likely a waste of money to you. Over the last year of using my 20%, I've saved at least this 15mil I just spent on the 30%. <img src=http://www.subeta.org/images/smilies/6398_emoticon_smile.gif border=0><br /><br />
THANK YOU for putting it back in the MC!! <img src=http://www.subeta.org/images/smilies/6398_emoticon_smile.gif border=0>
THANK YOU for putting it back in the MC!! <img src=http://www.subeta.org/images/smilies/6398_emoticon_smile.gif border=0>
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User not found:
*poor* ): Oh well...
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Diana_Marie
I think the whole point of selling them to get rid of a lot of the points by flushing them out of the system. They are hitting the rich by asking them to buy things that are expensive and the poor are trying to follow suit which just screws up the economy more. Oh well as long as everyone happy. =)
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Cilan
I saved 7k so far <img src=http://www.subeta.org/images/smilies/6398_emoticon_grin.gif border=0>!!!!
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Cora
eh...I think it's kind enough from Keith to put the discount card in the MC. Plus, it's not the 10%, but the 30% card. I don't know if it's a cash shop item or something else, but I think it's rare.
If Keith should cut down the price at 5m, I'd feel sad for the people who paid 15m/20m/even more for it...
If Keith should cut down the price at 5m, I'd feel sad for the people who paid 15m/20m/even more for it...
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Kiba_224
haha the card's back<img src=http://www.subeta.org/images/smilies/smiley_xface.gif border=0> awesomexD
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User not found:
I would have to agree 5 mill would be really nice even if its only for like a night
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starfish
ok doing the math ---- To break even, at that 1500sP savings on a 5k item, I'd need to RS 10,000 things. I don't think I've RSed 10,000 things in the year I've played here including participating in a RS war. So I guess it doesn't make sense for me. But it sure is nice to see that discount come off at the end of a shop purchase.... congrats to those who are getting one I am jealous <img src=http://www.subeta.org/images/smilies/6398_emoticon_raspberry.gif border=0>
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User not found:
Discount cards are totally worth it if you restock. You can make it back in a few days if you know what you're doing. XD
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ROXY
I would never wind up saving 15 million from the purchase, so it's a bit steep for me. At 5m, sure I'd pick one up. I wouldn't feel weird that my discount was "prepaid" really, ya know?
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Natsu_792
I wont get it unless it goes lower. I only have 12mill <img src=http://www.subeta.org/images/smilies/smiley_sadface.gif border=0>
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BlueGreenGrey
Yes, you keep the Discount Cards in your Inventory to use them. NO, they CANNOT be stolen by the Rotten Rogue - they are the ONLY non-stealable item in the game. HOWEVER - they CAN be zapped into useless dust and slime by the Pet Zapper V2, so put your DC away before you zap, please <img src=http://www.subeta.org/images/smilies/6398_emoticon_smile.gif border=0>
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Hamlet
id only buy it if it was 5mil XD not getting one unless it goes down *is way too expencive XD*
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Jasper
No way in hell. <img src=http://www.subeta.org/images/smilies/6398_emoticon_raspberry.gif border=0>
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User not found:
C'monn, 5 sp!
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User not found:
Still not worth it. I'd barely consider it worthwhile at 5mil. :
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User not found:
dang i cant afford such expensive things =(
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BlueGreenGrey
You've Purchased:<br />
30 Percent Discount Card for 15,000,000<br />
Thanks for your business!<br /><br />
I didn't even see the news Post about it until just now, or I'd have bought it at 20mil too! I've been waiting for this!!
30 Percent Discount Card for 15,000,000<br />
Thanks for your business!<br /><br />
I didn't even see the news Post about it until just now, or I'd have bought it at 20mil too! I've been waiting for this!!
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kokoMO
Oh thank you for lowering it before I bought it. You all are AWEsome, keep up the great job! <img src=http://www.subeta.org/images/smilies/6398_emoticon_grin.gif border=0>
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User not found:
<img src=http://www.subeta.org/images/smilies/6398_emoticon_sweatdrop.gif border=0> I bought it @ 20 mill. Seriously.
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Rusty
You always take a chance buying subeta items <img src=http://www.subeta.org/images/smilies/6398_emoticon_happy.gif border=0>
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Avis_566
<img src=http://www.subeta.org/images/smilies/6398_emoticon_sigh.gif border=0> Nice. Lowering the price after people, including me, have bought it for 20? How irritating.
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Diana_Marie
Isn't that just like the powers that be. To keep the pretty people in pearls and the poor in beads.
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Gilgamesh
lol Now I'm 8mil away from getting that. xD; Oh wells... maybe one day I'll be interested in buying it.
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User not found:
I would be like FDSGF If I bought one for 30mil or whatever it was o_O
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User not found:
Hate to say..i'll never own a discount card..i spend too much..and my trades never move. Eh well..no biggie really..Congrats to all that have gotten one
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User not found:
"Hurry"?! No ... how much time do I have?
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starfish
hojeez Keith I will completely totally broke why are you doing this to me! *shakes you* what to do?? agh somebody flip a coin, I can't look....
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farewell_all
Don't try and hog the items! You have 10 Hours, 38 minutes, and 37 seconds remaining until you can purchase another item!...... Hey Keith, can you reset my waiting time <img src=http://www.subeta.org/images/smilies/6398_emoticon_smile.gif border=0>
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User not found:
GOOD thing im a hog and i cant buy more items from the MC for a few hours. lawl.
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Halloween_133
*just bought one*
Now if they cut down the price again to 10 mill, I'm gonna cry xD *poor now*
Now if they cut down the price again to 10 mill, I'm gonna cry xD *poor now*
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User not found:
Ohmygoshhhhh. <img src=http://www.subeta.org/images/smilies/smiley_sadface.gif border=0>
If I spend it I've only got 7 mil leftttt...
If I spend it I've only got 7 mil leftttt...
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Alecto_226
Having a field day with lots of news posts are we Keith? XD .....I cant quite afford this but its still awsome x3
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Keith
It (and the other cards) can't be stolen <img src=http://www.subeta.org/images/smilies/6398_emoticon_smile.gif border=0>
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Fearless
noooooo.... just so happened my Liam on a Leash dissapeared and I coulda afforded it <img src=http://www.subeta.org/images/smilies/6398_emoticon_sad.gif border=0> oh well, hopefully it'll still be there as I try to make this money up fast...
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farewell_all
Do you have to have it in your inventory (and risk it being stolen)...
Or will it work from your vault also (would feel much safer getting one)
Or will it work from your vault also (would feel much safer getting one)
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glasmin
What about those who bought it for 20 million? <img src=http://www.subeta.org/images/smilies/6398_emoticon_shocked.gif border=0>
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User not found:
Good thing I'm completely broke <img src=http://www.subeta.org/images/smilies/smiley_sadface.gif border=0> *pines*
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User not found:
XD This has made my day. ^^
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User not found:
Yaaaaaay! c:
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