Due to a few users buying up low rarity items from user shops, and trying to sell them off for tons and tons more in the trades - you can now see the rarity of all items while trading :)
PLEASE make sure to check the rarity, and value of items before you accept a trade (or bid on a pretty item!) from someone who might be trying to trick you :(
Posted by Keith
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I have IE7 now, and it's not working with the trades at all. <br />
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Diana, you're so right! I had a nice bunch of rare and super rare items on the side for SS, that had gradually made it into a fairly acceptable price range again - now, that I want to give them away, they're worth nothing!!! 10 - 50 k, while they were 90 - 250 only a couple of days before! I wonder, what all those people think, who make a senseless 30 - 50 k downjump in the shops or who thoughtlessly autoprice their UB wares - someone makes a typing error, leaves out a digit and everybody else falls in line without checking. But as I said before - still leaves me wondering, how so many "rare" items can pop up in the shops in such a short time, while, at the same time (esp., when they are so cheap) they are being used up in quests, too.
It's great that you're acknowledging that there is a problem with people trying to trick others! Thank you for this!<br />
(It's going to take a while to get used to the trades though, they look like multi-coloured christmas lights now, rofl! <img src="http://images.subeta.org/smilies/6398_emoticon_raspberry.gif" border="0" />)
(It's going to take a while to get used to the trades though, they look like multi-coloured christmas lights now, rofl! <img src="http://images.subeta.org/smilies/6398_emoticon_raspberry.gif" border="0" />)
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Nicely put.
This is silly, rarity does not play into most of the items on this site. All your going to do is fill the trade center with worthless rare's that no one is going to buy.<br />
By the way, since were all talking about punishment.<br />
Maybe the undercutter's should be punished also. I can't say how many points I've lost out on in less than 24 hours because of this atrocious behavior.<br />
Maybe two birds in the bush is better than one bird in your hand. Seems to be the theme when the site caters to a select few users that couldn't be bother to ask questions before trading.
By the way, since were all talking about punishment.<br />
Maybe the undercutter's should be punished also. I can't say how many points I've lost out on in less than 24 hours because of this atrocious behavior.<br />
Maybe two birds in the bush is better than one bird in your hand. Seems to be the theme when the site caters to a select few users that couldn't be bother to ask questions before trading.
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BoaConstrictor, I've had the same thing happen to me. I'll buy something in the main shops that's new and still priced around, let's say 85k in user shops. <br />
LITERALLY the NEXT morning when I come on, there will be a DELIBERATE drop from say:<br />
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user shop name - item name - 70k<br />
user shop name - item name - 20k<br />
user shop name - item name - 900sP<br />
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THAT'S what's wrong TOO. <br />
So I understand.
LITERALLY the NEXT morning when I come on, there will be a DELIBERATE drop from say:<br />
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user shop name - item name - 70k<br />
user shop name - item name - 20k<br />
user shop name - item name - 900sP<br />
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THAT'S what's wrong TOO. <br />
So I understand.
... Plus, if you would be in dire need of such a low rarity item only selling in trades for whatever reason (wearable, new combination, just bought up...) you would still buy it. I always check the rarity of items I sell, buy or am offered. But this of course helps speeding the process.
Rarity is somehow completely off at the time, anyhow. How can it be that rares and super rares are flooding the usershops while everything else just vanishes? The computers seem to be totally failing at calculating the amount of rares on the site. I've been monitoring one of my items in my shop for 3 days. It was 3rd next in the useshops of a total of 4 and today it is behind 32!!!! Now, how rare can that be??!!
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I have a question: <br />
Is it wrong to buy up several items that have been priced from 15k undercut to 500k (I don't look at rarity) and sell them for what most other people have them at?<br />
If I see a few items completely undercut, I'll buy them up and sell them for what the majority is selling them for.
Is it wrong to buy up several items that have been priced from 15k undercut to 500k (I don't look at rarity) and sell them for what most other people have them at?<br />
If I see a few items completely undercut, I'll buy them up and sell them for what the majority is selling them for.
great idea!! <img src="http://images.subeta.org/smilies/6398_emoticon_grin.gif" border="0" /> i missing that
This is a great idea. Someone bid an inflated Keets on one of my trades last month, luckily I pay attention to rarity anyway and was not fooled. I hope the people who are intentionally trying to fool other users by hoarding low rarity items and inflating the price are disciplined.
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great idea only problem i see if it is say a rarity 50 item,and there are very few on site,it should be worth more then say a r 99 item that is flooded on the site..also i hope they fix the gardens in veta lake ..
I love this idea! Most of the time, about 90%, when I put an item in trades I'll mention the rarity of the item. This will make it easier. Thanks Keith chases and tackle hugs
The only issue I see is with free gifts/trivia/war prizes all having the same rarity. Maybe each should have a certain rarity like the DPs do? I know vouchers are 102 (I think). Maybe free gifts 0, trivia 125? Something like that. And a list ON SITE (similar to the one on SubetaHA) that list these?
um so does that mean some of the r97-r99s might actually be worth more than say some item under r50 =/........btw......."Thanks Keith, this will help this site from turning into that other place!!".......neo has always shown the Rarities up on the TP =/
I think this is great but I have 1 question..sorry to bug you about this, I feel dumb for asking but I am new to Subeta and I was wondering about how the Rarity of the Items work..
Thanks Keith, it's great to see the site trying to stay on top of the scammers. HOWEVER, speaking of trades, any idea how much longer we IE users will have to wait? It's been long enough, we need our trades working soon if we're going to be buying those special people on our lists Christmas gifts. It's getting to be crunch time!
I wonder if it will really serve it's purpose tough, but at lest your are trying... and thats what count at this point.<br />
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I mean any person who know the market know that new items have low rarity and are sold for more then they should... but also, Free Gift and Other special stuff have the same rarity so it don't give an idea for those items... But I guess the idea was mainly for the rsable items... <br />
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Also,. I've always tough that if a buyer overpay it's their own fault for not trying to know as much as possible of that item before, but I agree that now many sellers are mean and trick people on getting their low rarity item for hight rarity ones these days.
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I mean any person who know the market know that new items have low rarity and are sold for more then they should... but also, Free Gift and Other special stuff have the same rarity so it don't give an idea for those items... But I guess the idea was mainly for the rsable items... <br />
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Also,. I've always tough that if a buyer overpay it's their own fault for not trying to know as much as possible of that item before, but I agree that now many sellers are mean and trick people on getting their low rarity item for hight rarity ones these days.
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Me and my friends were still wondering how the Keets got all the way to 5 mil yesterday.
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That is totally awesome. Excellent decision.
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yay. No more being fooled! =D
Yes they could search the rarity on their own but before this kind of deception a user could just search shops to see if an item might be worth less than what someone asks in trades. This way if it's low rarity hopefully they'll just try to rs it themselves. It's really disappointing that some users would even try this.
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Thank you!!! This will be uber helpful. <3
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o_o not that i dont think this is a great idea and all, but anyone could have checked the rarity of something before buying it.. XD through the search > item > item name > tada ! ~ or using a search engine (like subetahq) <img src="http://images.subeta.org/smilies/smiley_xface.gif" border="0" /> lazybutts<3
choirs sing Hallelulia!!! Thanks Keith! I'm glad to see any attempt to stop the madness.
Thats good! Trades arent working for me right now though for the last 2 weeks <img src="http://images.subeta.org/smilies/6398_emoticon_sad.gif" border="0" /> Im not sure what the IE7 thing is I just know I can make or search for ANY trades.
That's Fantastic!!! for anyone who doesn't use IE anyway.. I don't know about anybody else but I would really rather see the next "improvement" be that the trades are usable by everyone.. they haven't worked in IE for me for a couple of weeks now.
<b>Quote:</b><blockquote style="padding:5px; line-height:15px; background-color: #FAFFFF; border: 1px solid #000000; font-family: georgia; font-size: 10;">If somebody offers you more than ONE of an item, be wary. "Here's 10 of an item worth 5 million. </blockquote><br />
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Heheh..I could offer someone 50 Prismis, and they're worth more than 5m. (well, they were before the christmas presents came out, anyway) -Yesh, I are a hoarder of rainbowy fluttery prismis. <img src="http://images.subeta.org/smilies/6398_emoticon_grin.gif" border="0" />
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Heheh..I could offer someone 50 Prismis, and they're worth more than 5m. (well, they were before the christmas presents came out, anyway) -Yesh, I are a hoarder of rainbowy fluttery prismis. <img src="http://images.subeta.org/smilies/6398_emoticon_grin.gif" border="0" />
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i think this is great ... of course rarity doesn't always account for the value of an item, but it will help and in the case of newer items, this will be especially handy
o.o; no offense, but if you're stupid enough to go immediately to the trades to buy something, thennn.. you're just asking to get scammed. xD (Ooh, after typing this, i realized what you meant. lmao. buying out EVERY said item in the shops..? so no one could search for them? what a waste of time o-0; losers. lulz. good idea then ;D)
maybe i wont be online to see the answer, but: do you mean there were/are people bying ALL buyable junk items of one kind and then selling them for millions? like, well, monopolism.
Great idea. And ew@people being malicious and greedy. <img src="http://images.subeta.org/smilies/6398_emoticon_sad.gif" border="0" /> That needs to end asap, we don't do that here!
This is great! Ha ha! In your face you tricksters who try to rip people off. Thanks keith, its good to see you care so much about the user here. <img src="http://images.subeta.org/smilies/6398_emoticon_heart.gif" border="0" />
Another good tip - If somebody offers you more than ONE of an item, be wary. "Here's 10 of an item worth 5 million. Gimme you ultra rare ___ in return." Is a sure sign of trickery.
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Two words.... THANK YOU!
<img src="http://images.subeta.org/smilies/6398_emoticon_grin.gif" border="0" /> alright thank you <img src="http://images.subeta.org/smilies/6398_emoticon_happy.gif" border="0" /><br />
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too bad I can't use the trades right now xD
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too bad I can't use the trades right now xD
Some r99s are buyable lighthawk, it just depends on the demand of the item. Some lower rarity items will sell for more because the demand is high.
That is awesome... however people should still keep in mind some lower rarity items are still expensive (like snowflakes) because they are sought after.
uh, can somebody tell me which rarity is valuable? Like, is 80 and above worth more, or 90 or...? I am still confused about that.
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I don't think the staff believes that trade prices are based solely on rarity, this addition just gives people a heads up if they're being asked to pay high prices for low rarity items. There will always be exceptions, like in the case of new highly sought after items for example.
This is a fabulous idea!! It will help immensely with new released items as well. Paying millions for a R20 item is absurd.
I think it is lovely. A decent solution to a few immoral idividuals and the effect is has on us all. There should also be a rarity guide for newbies!
that's a great idea. I know I've seen things in there that I wonder about... <img src="http://images.subeta.org/smilies/6398_emoticon_raspberry.gif" border="0" />
<b>Quote By star0dust:</b><blockquote style="padding:5px; line-height:15px; background-color: #FAFFFF; border: 1px solid #000000; font-family: georgia; font-size: 10;">Maybe if this doesn't work, you could put a limit to how much each person can buy of one thing at a time.</blockquote><br />
That would be a horrible idea. pokes shop
That would be a horrible idea. pokes shop
Well, you had a good point then, Sawars. <br />
I agree with Chaos Rocket- I liked the pop-up boxes displaying the real rarities, not 'mundane' or 'super rare.'
I agree with Chaos Rocket- I liked the pop-up boxes displaying the real rarities, not 'mundane' or 'super rare.'
Thanks! Can you also bring back the thing where the info box that pops up over the item has the specific rarity number in it? I don't understand why that was taken away in the first place, I loved that.
This is a great new feature. Hopefully it'll also effect the prices of newly released items. When someone sees a new item is only a R28 hopefully they'll think twice before spending millions on it.
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AristoDragon, that's about what I had said down there somewhere. <br />
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I think everyone ignored me though. <img src="http://images.subeta.org/smilies/6398_emoticon_sad.gif" border="0" /> Oh well, I'm used to it.
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I think everyone ignored me though. <img src="http://images.subeta.org/smilies/6398_emoticon_sad.gif" border="0" /> Oh well, I'm used to it.
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Maybe if this doesn't work, you could put a limit to how much each person can buy of one thing at a time.
Kiruna, my point was that you shouldn't rely on the rarities, because they aren't always priced by the rarity.
OH this is nice. I hate it when some users do things like this...it is degrading and low and selfish and everything inbetween.
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thats cool, that you care so much~ <img src="http://images.subeta.org/smilies/6398_emoticon_smile.gif" border="0" /> thanks~!
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This is a great idea. I've been taken a few times, and seeing the rarity of items will keep me and others from being duped.<br />
shame on you, dupers. shaaame!
shame on you, dupers. shaaame!
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Download Firefox, I know Safari and IE [7] both don't work for the trades, so I had to download Firefox, also[:
Good job...good work. Great staff. <img src="http://images.subeta.org/smilies/6398_emoticon_grin.gif" border="0" />
Awesome!! Thank you!! <img src="http://images.subeta.org/smilies/6398_emoticon_smile.gif" border="0" />
That's awesome! <img src="http://images.subeta.org/smilies/6398_emoticon_grin.gif" border="0" /> In my defense, I'm buying junk for the purpose of hoarding junk though :_
Score!! excellent, Keith! thankyou<img src="http://images.subeta.org/smilies/6398_emoticon_smile.gif" border="0" />
People could actually sell junk for millions? Dang... I just buy up all the junk I can and hoard it. Sometimes in hopes that the Recycle Beast will ask for it, and it did happen a few items with items I happened to have hundreds/a thousand of... I would only sell one at a time though, and I never make a profit. Awfully hard to make a profit off an item I sell for 5k when I spent over 100k just to get it to that price XD This is an awesome feature! How many times I've wanted some simple, low-rarity items, only to have them worth a ridiculous amount... I don't mind so much when people buy-up items like that, but when they try to resell and make a profit, that's just not right...
Huzzah <img src="http://images.subeta.org/smilies/smiley_sadface.gif" border="0" />! Mercy on the weak of mind who don't bother to check rarity... like myself 8D;
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But I think there is still a bug which I can't search on trades... I hope they get it done soon...
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throws cookies at the Staff Thank you. This was needed.
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You know what a good thing would be to have on subeta? A "Find My items" Thing, I mean like how many times have you tired to find an item that you have and you just can't see to find it? some thing like that would be good it could tell you were you can find your item that you've left in your gallery/vault/pet treasure chest It would be handy =D<br />
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Also this is useful thats subeta =3
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Also this is useful thats subeta =3
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Yay! this is so great! thanks!
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Is this feature going to affect the value of the 150 rarity Trivia Prizes? It seems you can't always base price off of rarity.
I like this new feature... Newer users are less likely to get caught like that... I was just tellin' a friend to watch out for that last night... <img src="http://images.subeta.org/smilies/6398_emoticon_smile.gif" border="0" /><br />
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AristoDragon, those are items that aren't in high demand... ^^ The problem was people buyin' up r40 or lower and tryin' to trade them for millions in items... Only for the poor person to in a day or so find out it's not worth anything near that...
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AristoDragon, those are items that aren't in high demand... ^^ The problem was people buyin' up r40 or lower and tryin' to trade them for millions in items... Only for the poor person to in a day or so find out it's not worth anything near that...
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Great idea!
i just saw that and was wondering when it was added! <img src="http://images.subeta.org/smilies/6398_emoticon_happy_sweatdrop.gif" border="0" /> nice new feature, thank you!
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Understandable change. Still a big congrats to people who managed to sell junk for millions. It's a skill.
Three Cheers for Subeta Staff! This is a shining example of why I ADORE this website! <img src="http://images.subeta.org/smilies/6398_emoticon_heart.gif" border="0" />
I'm glad this was added. I -stupidly- didn't check the rarity of one of the inflated items, and when I saw the going price, I happily traded my item for four of the other. When I saw it was just mass inflation, I just donated the items. Not that I'm ever going to trade for items without checking rarities again, but it's nice not to have to go to subetahq to research. Thanks Keith. c:
Except I can easilly find r80+ items under 100k, as well as retired items and 'special' items. I don't think rarity is good to go off 100% of the time.
I think this is a Great idea.. Thank you <br />
Can you please fix trades so IE7 users can use them .. I cant create a Trade or even so much as to look one up..Please please .. <img src="http://images.subeta.org/smilies/6398_emoticon_smile.gif" border="0" /><img src="http://images.subeta.org/smilies/6398_emoticon_smile.gif" border="0" /> <br />
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Can you please fix trades so IE7 users can use them .. I cant create a Trade or even so much as to look one up..Please please .. <img src="http://images.subeta.org/smilies/6398_emoticon_smile.gif" border="0" /><img src="http://images.subeta.org/smilies/6398_emoticon_smile.gif" border="0" /> <br />
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Can this also be a feature in 'My shop'? like having a 'scroll over' option on the pricing page.
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Great now that one person UNnamed cat sell rap for tons lol Thankies keith
About bloody time.<br />
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I'm sick of people offering on my trades with a million Gaturls or Spectrumvets. This will make it harder for them for sure. <img src="http://images.subeta.org/smilies/6398_emoticon_smile.gif" border="0" />
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I'm sick of people offering on my trades with a million Gaturls or Spectrumvets. This will make it harder for them for sure. <img src="http://images.subeta.org/smilies/6398_emoticon_smile.gif" border="0" />
Thank you Keith, this really helps <img src="http://images.subeta.org/smilies/6398_emoticon_smile.gif" border="0" />.
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Keith, you are great.
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Brilliant idea. =D<br />
Now it's just sheer amusement when people still fall for it. ;x
Now it's just sheer amusement when people still fall for it. ;x
Good idea. This scam is one of the oldest in the book, and I'd hate to see a bunch of people fall for it. <br />
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Item prices fluctuate so much here that I mostly just take pure on my trades to be safe.
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Item prices fluctuate so much here that I mostly just take pure on my trades to be safe.
I just noticed the colored rarity numbers in trades, that is awesome!!!! <img src="http://images.subeta.org/smilies/6398_emoticon_smile.gif" border="0" />
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Great idea, thankyou <3
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Sweet, that sounds like a good idea.
PirateCaptainAsheOne of the great things about the Recycle Beast is the fact that you can hoard loads of cheap items WHILE they're cheap (without going bankrupt), and then resell them for sometimes 10x what you paid, when the Recycle Beast requests them.
I think that putting the rarity up there is a good idea on Subeta's part, because it's helpful for new gamers...
...But those of you who are calling people who buy cheap, low rarity objects (to resell them for a higher profit) "immoral" are REALLY out of line.
Part of the game is (JUST LIKE COLLECTING IN REAL LIFE) trying to invest in items that you think will gain value... and selling them when they're at their peak.
If you've traded rare items for low-rarity ones or bought common items while they were at their peak price-wise, then its really just a poor judgement call on your part. So why not just strive to be a better, smarter player from now on, rather than cry about how mean or "immoral" other players are, just because they made financially smarter decisions than you did?