
On December 15th starting at around noon EST, we will begin clearing pet names and account names that have been inactive. Frozen accounts inactive for 10 months will be cleared, and non-frozen accounts inactive for a year, will be cleared.
Good luck on getting the pet/account name that you're after!
Posted by Keith
Load this on 🆕 Kumos site
I wonder........ Yes that is tomarrow!............Hey maybe I could get on tomarrow.............I will try to get the best things ever!!!!
AFLKJADFLKJ! T0T DURING SCHOOL? REALLY? ;-;
Maybe I can use my friend's phone during lunch... >3>
Maybe I can use my friend's phone during lunch... >3>
I know someone... a friend of mine... who quit over a year ago. She has two pets with names I want. I'm armed with a Pet Slot Totem and Identity Star Shuriken for that day, because I know those two names are getting cleared, and I wants them ._.; .
FOR THAT DAY IS MY BIRTHDAY, AND I SHALL GET THOSE NAMES AS MY BIRTHDAY PRESENTS TO MYSELF. :3 ... Yeah. That's 9:00 my time, so I plan to wake up extra-early to make sure I'm all set.
FOR THAT DAY IS MY BIRTHDAY, AND I SHALL GET THOSE NAMES AS MY BIRTHDAY PRESENTS TO MYSELF. :3 ... Yeah. That's 9:00 my time, so I plan to wake up extra-early to make sure I'm all set.


<b>Quote:</b><blockquote style="padding:5px; line-height:15px; background-color: #FAFFFF; border: 1px solid #000000; font-family: georgia; font-size: 10;">And a year is a short time? Are you kidding? They have already alienated themselves from the site at that point.</blockquote>
Not true!
I took a full year Hiatus (I got bored, and needed a break), and believe me, time flies.
I had hardly even realized I'd been gone that long when it hit me that I should come back to delete my cult and participate in Morostide.
Some of my friends have had similar hiatuses to mine and most of them have returned so far.
Of course, I also already knew about account clearing, so I was careful to prevent myself from losing my account by planning to come back before a certain date, at least for a visit.
So, your nice sweeping statement that ALL people who are gone for a year are alienated from the site is unfortunately overblown, to put it mildly.
...And yes, I have spent money on the CS, just not for a long, long time.
Not true!
I took a full year Hiatus (I got bored, and needed a break), and believe me, time flies.
I had hardly even realized I'd been gone that long when it hit me that I should come back to delete my cult and participate in Morostide.
Some of my friends have had similar hiatuses to mine and most of them have returned so far.
Of course, I also already knew about account clearing, so I was careful to prevent myself from losing my account by planning to come back before a certain date, at least for a visit.
So, your nice sweeping statement that ALL people who are gone for a year are alienated from the site is unfortunately overblown, to put it mildly.
...And yes, I have spent money on the CS, just not for a long, long time.
Of course money isn't the whole point. I think ANY rule-abiding player who'd come back hoping to enjoy Subeta after a year-long sabbatical would be disappointed to find his/her account cleared. And if that person did indeed spend money, it would most likely exacerbate things.
A year may seem like an eternity to some, but considering the site has been around five years, it really isn't. As many others have attested to, long absences DO happen.
"If their precious cash shop investment in pixels were so important they would be here playing with them. Simple as that."
Heaven forbid someone has multiple interests and multiple priorities and possibly multiple other time commitments... Spare me.
Please do not put words in my mouth. I never warned others against spending money in the cash shop. The cash shop allows easy attainability to several fun items that enhance the Subeta experience, as well as help fund the site. I think it's a great feature.
What I AM saying is very closely aligned to your warning: Simply that some part-time players who would otherwise donate to the cash shop, upon realizing the true transitory nature of their accounts, might not. And those who dedicated tons of time to Subeta, only to have their accounts cleared, might also stop.
I was stating a likely thought process of one whose account was cleared; NOT telling regular players not to shop.
And money is part of it, because in the end, it is a business decision, because there are customers to take into consideration.
But on the other side of things... It's Subeta's site and they have the right to do whatever they want. And I'm sure the team thought this through because there actually are several benefits to doing this, many of which are becoming very clear.
I just like being chatty. <img src="http://images.subeta.net/smilies/6398_emoticon_wink.gif" border="0" />
That being said, this is all I feel I need to say on the topic here, but feel free to take this to mail if you wish.
And Mittens, I believe it's the Identity Star Shuriken, but I've never needed one, so double check to be sure.
A year may seem like an eternity to some, but considering the site has been around five years, it really isn't. As many others have attested to, long absences DO happen.
"If their precious cash shop investment in pixels were so important they would be here playing with them. Simple as that."
Heaven forbid someone has multiple interests and multiple priorities and possibly multiple other time commitments... Spare me.
Please do not put words in my mouth. I never warned others against spending money in the cash shop. The cash shop allows easy attainability to several fun items that enhance the Subeta experience, as well as help fund the site. I think it's a great feature.
What I AM saying is very closely aligned to your warning: Simply that some part-time players who would otherwise donate to the cash shop, upon realizing the true transitory nature of their accounts, might not. And those who dedicated tons of time to Subeta, only to have their accounts cleared, might also stop.
I was stating a likely thought process of one whose account was cleared; NOT telling regular players not to shop.
And money is part of it, because in the end, it is a business decision, because there are customers to take into consideration.
But on the other side of things... It's Subeta's site and they have the right to do whatever they want. And I'm sure the team thought this through because there actually are several benefits to doing this, many of which are becoming very clear.
I just like being chatty. <img src="http://images.subeta.net/smilies/6398_emoticon_wink.gif" border="0" />
That being said, this is all I feel I need to say on the topic here, but feel free to take this to mail if you wish.
And Mittens, I believe it's the Identity Star Shuriken, but I've never needed one, so double check to be sure.
<b>Quote:</b><blockquote style="padding:5px; line-height:15px; background-color: #FAFFFF; border: 1px solid #000000; font-family: georgia; font-size: 10;">As I said in my post, doing this is totally Subeta's prerogative and no one is entitled to anything; I never said that users were or that I expected any more or less. I was just expressing my opinion that I think a year is an awfully short time to possibly alienate users who have spent money on the site and it would STRONGLY discourage them from doing so in the future. I know this turn of events is making me think twice about it now as well. Just my two cents. But as I said before, I'm excited for those who are excited about new names. Take the good with the bad I suppose.</blockquote>
Money has nothing to do with it. That's the point.
If their precious cash shop investment in pixels were so important they would be here playing with them. Simple as that.
And a year is a short time? Are you kidding? They have already alienated themselves from the site at that point. The fact that they may have purchased even a 50 point item is irrelevant. If that's your reason to <i>strongly suggest that others don't buy from the cash shop</i> then your logic is flawed. Maybe you should warn friends against spending if they don't really play regularly or may abandon their account.
Money has nothing to do with it. That's the point.
If their precious cash shop investment in pixels were so important they would be here playing with them. Simple as that.
And a year is a short time? Are you kidding? They have already alienated themselves from the site at that point. The fact that they may have purchased even a 50 point item is irrelevant. If that's your reason to <i>strongly suggest that others don't buy from the cash shop</i> then your logic is flawed. Maybe you should warn friends against spending if they don't really play regularly or may abandon their account.
"The only thing you are entitled to when purchasing from the cash shop are the pixels you purchased. No special treatment just because you kicked some money to the site. I don't understand why people don't get that."
As I said in my post, doing this is totally Subeta's prerogative and no one is entitled to anything; I never said that users were or that I expected any more or less. I was just expressing my opinion that I think a year is an awfully short time to possibly alienate users who have spent money on the site and it would STRONGLY discourage them from doing so in the future. I know this turn of events is making me think twice about it now as well. Just my two cents. But as I said before, I'm excited for those who are excited about new names. Take the good with the bad I suppose.
As I said in my post, doing this is totally Subeta's prerogative and no one is entitled to anything; I never said that users were or that I expected any more or less. I was just expressing my opinion that I think a year is an awfully short time to possibly alienate users who have spent money on the site and it would STRONGLY discourage them from doing so in the future. I know this turn of events is making me think twice about it now as well. Just my two cents. But as I said before, I'm excited for those who are excited about new names. Take the good with the bad I suppose.
Wow I haven't been on this site in forever and luckily I logged onto my old account before this happened, (this is a new one) but I transfered all my stuff over to this one in timeahahahahha enjoy the tundra.
<b>Quote:</b><blockquote style="padding:5px; line-height:15px; background-color: #FAFFFF; border: 1px solid #000000; font-family: georgia; font-size: 10;">but considering how large the cash shop has become, I know how touchy I'd be if I spent tens (or hundreds?) of dollars, get busy for a year, and log back in to find my account was gone.</blockquote>
<b>Quote:</b><blockquote style="padding:5px; line-height:15px; background-color: #FAFFFF; border: 1px solid #000000; font-family: georgia; font-size: 10;">Very right, I came back a few days ago after months of inactivity (like almost evey year, it seems I visit subeta only in winter) and now I read this...fortunately I came back in time. And in the last years I spent a considerable amount in the cash shop (at least for me). Perhaps the allowed period of inactivity should be extended at least for people who bought something in the cash shop...</blockquote>
The only thing you are entitled to when purchasing from the cash shop are the pixels you purchased. No special treatment just because you kicked some money to the site. I don't understand why people don't get that.
<b>Quote:</b><blockquote style="padding:5px; line-height:15px; background-color: #FAFFFF; border: 1px solid #000000; font-family: georgia; font-size: 10;">Very right, I came back a few days ago after months of inactivity (like almost evey year, it seems I visit subeta only in winter) and now I read this...fortunately I came back in time. And in the last years I spent a considerable amount in the cash shop (at least for me). Perhaps the allowed period of inactivity should be extended at least for people who bought something in the cash shop...</blockquote>
The only thing you are entitled to when purchasing from the cash shop are the pixels you purchased. No special treatment just because you kicked some money to the site. I don't understand why people don't get that.

Crap.. I have to work from noon to seven that day. defeated Wish this could take place on a weekend day! xD Good luck to everyone else <img src="http://images.subeta.net/smilies/6398_emoticon_smile.gif" border="0" />
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great!i just i will be lucky..
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Wow I haven't been on this site in forever and luckily I logged onto my old account before this happened, (this is a new one) but I transfered all my stuff over to this one in time
Gzrtz.
That'll be 6pm here, and I'll be on my way back from school. Well, I'll see, though I don't believe I'll get lucky.
crosses fingers
That'll be 6pm here, and I'll be on my way back from school. Well, I'll see, though I don't believe I'll get lucky.
crosses fingers

yeees <img src="http://images.subeta.net/smilies/6398_emoticon_heart.gif" border="0" /> i hope i'll be online at that time though.. i've got my exams next week v.v (tuesday-thursday.. friday x-mas party <img src="http://images.subeta.net/smilies/6398_emoticon_grin.gif" border="0" />)

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"Non-frozen accounts that haven't been active for a year? Oh dear... I've vanished for several months at a time before, so I know how easily done that is. I'm sure there's something about clearing accounts being the site owner's prerogative in the term's of service... but considering how large the cash shop has become, I know how touchy I'd be if I spent tens (or hundreds?) of dollars, get busy for a year, and log back in to find my account was gone.
But... on the other hand... gratz to all who are about to get their special names.
Posted by Aurianna"
Very right, I came back a few days ago after months of inactivity (like almost evey year, it seems I visit subeta only in winter) and now I read this...fortunately I came back in time. And in the last years I spent a considerable amount in the cash shop (at least for me). Perhaps the allowed period of inactivity should be extended at least for people who bought something in the cash shop...
But... on the other hand... gratz to all who are about to get their special names.
Posted by Aurianna"
Very right, I came back a few days ago after months of inactivity (like almost evey year, it seems I visit subeta only in winter) and now I read this...fortunately I came back in time. And in the last years I spent a considerable amount in the cash shop (at least for me). Perhaps the allowed period of inactivity should be extended at least for people who bought something in the cash shop...
Kumos will always be mine though...<img src="http://images.subeta.net/smilies/6398_emoticon_raspberry.gif" border="0" />

Yaaay. I just hope the pet name I want is freed up, from the owner's comments they've sent/received as far as I can tell, they'll probably be cleared but...eh. =| Ah well, if not, then next time. Crosses fingers
... That's my birthday! AND I STILL HAVE MY PET SLOT TOTEM FROM MY LOYALTY BOX!
That means... I can get a new pet and give it an awesome name... what a great birthday present!
That means... I can get a new pet and give it an awesome name... what a great birthday present!

Awesome, thanks! <img src="http://images.subeta.net/smilies/6398_emoticon_grin.gif" border="0" /> I'm gonna be very busy that day, but I'll try to sneak on and snag a name. One question though, if I use the wand on my pet, but the name I want is already taken, do I still have to pick a new name or can I just keep the old one?

OMG YAYYYYY <img src="http://images.subeta.net/smilies/6398_emoticon_grin.gif" border="0" /> <img src="http://images.subeta.net/smilies/6398_emoticon_grin.gif" border="0" /> <img src="http://images.subeta.net/smilies/6398_emoticon_grin.gif" border="0" /> im so flippin excited [:
Non-frozen accounts that haven't been active for a year? Oh dear... I've vanished for several months at a time before, so I know how easily done that is. I'm sure there's something about clearing accounts being the site owner's prerogative in the term's of service... but considering how large the cash shop has become, I know how touchy I'd be if I spent tens (or hundreds?) of dollars, get busy for a year, and log back in to find my account was gone.
But... on the other hand... gratz to all who are about to get their special names. <img src="http://images.subeta.net/smilies/6398_emoticon_smile.gif" border="0" />
But... on the other hand... gratz to all who are about to get their special names. <img src="http://images.subeta.net/smilies/6398_emoticon_smile.gif" border="0" />
Oh yessss. The name I've been stalking's been inactive for just over a year!
Dang school, though. Don't think the name's too popular, hopefully it'll be around when I come home.
Dang school, though. Don't think the name's too popular, hopefully it'll be around when I come home.

aww man,
the name i want was taken during the last clearing <img src="http://images.subeta.net/smilies/smiley_sadface.gif" border="0" />
i need to steal a good name this time around
xD
the name i want was taken during the last clearing <img src="http://images.subeta.net/smilies/smiley_sadface.gif" border="0" />
i need to steal a good name this time around
xD

aww man,
the name i want was taken during the last clearing <img src="http://images.subeta.net/smilies/smiley_sadface.gif" border="0" />
i need to steal a good name this time around
xD
the name i want was taken during the last clearing <img src="http://images.subeta.net/smilies/smiley_sadface.gif" border="0" />
i need to steal a good name this time around
xD
This explains what happened to my friend Scotty and Eric <img src="http://images.subeta.net/smilies/6398_emoticon_sad.gif" border="0" />
Oh Well it keeps the website from being cluttered.
Oh Well it keeps the website from being cluttered.
Nifty guys! I'm liking my pet's names, so it's all good with me. Good luck to the rest of you <img src="http://images.subeta.net/smilies/6398_emoticon_happy.gif" border="0" />
i don't understand the obsession with getting words as usernames.
good thing i logged on when i did..
good thing i logged on when i did..
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Since I've been asked for my pets/names before, and am on stealth mode, here's me dashing everyone's hopes. ;P
yess but I dont think the name I want will be avalible <img src="http://images.subeta.net/smilies/6398_emoticon_sad.gif" border="0" />

Do you know how long it took me to read this post? :- Chibi kumos are VERY distracting. <img src="http://images.subeta.net/smilies/6398_emoticon_happy.gif" border="0" />
I'm in the same boat as SkitsoSquirrel. xD The one name I want I'm not sure will be cleared because I can't see how long they've been inactive. Thanks for the heads-up, though!

YAY! Thank you! <img src="http://images.subeta.net/smilies/6398_emoticon_grin.gif" border="0" />

Aww, man! I'll have to wait a bit before I can get the pet name I want! XP Hopefully, I can get one of those cards to get an ISS so I can get my name... If it will still be there, that is.
YESSS!
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Thanks for telling us! I'm so excited. ;D
<img src="http://images.subeta.net/smilies/6398_emoticon_heart.gif" border="0" />
Thanks for telling us! I'm so excited. ;D

tfsr: computers aren't always available for use (for the most part they'll only let you use them if the entire class needs them for a project), unfortunately, and the name is a pretty common name irl so i'm afraid it'll be snapped up before i get home. not like the odds are totally against me, though.
YES! The name I want is clearing and I will get it. <img src="http://images.subeta.net/smilies/6398_emoticon_smile.gif" border="0" /> Cause' I'm super fast and... super cocky. Thanks Subeta!
<b>Quote By xalia:</b><blockquote style="padding:5px; line-height:15px; background-color: #FAFFFF; border: 1px solid #000000; font-family: georgia; font-size: 10;">not very happy about the timing :s i'm going to be in school. i guess i could skip that day, since the name i want really badly is going to be eligible for clearing this time around, but...</blockquote>
That seems a bit silly to me, honestly. Just try to get on a computer or wait until you get home?
That seems a bit silly to me, honestly. Just try to get on a computer or wait until you get home?
Dang. The names I'm stalking are all on active users or inactive users that have died off only a few months ago. Urgh, and I really want them too. TwT! Well, most people shall be happy at least.
@Zexor-shudou
If you have the correct items to change your username or your pets' names, you can.
If you have the correct items to change your username or your pets' names, you can.
not very happy about the timing :s i'm going to be in school. i guess i could skip that day, since the name i want really badly is going to be eligible for clearing this time around, but...


Good luck everyone. Glad I love my name and pet's name. <img src="http://images.subeta.net/smilies/6398_emoticon_grin.gif" border="0" />
to stijn: Having other accounts was a joke... right? If not... I'm very confused as to why the password retriever thingy wasn't used...
I shoulda waited to get my Legeica... I coulda named her somethin' better than Madora... oh wells... it's still a good name.
I shoulda waited to get my Legeica... I coulda named her somethin' better than Madora... oh wells... it's still a good name.
YAY! I'll finally be able to change Shinai's name <img src="http://images.subeta.net/smilies/6398_emoticon_grin.gif" border="0" /> Thank you!
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Oh good, my sister's had her eye on an inactive account c:
Darn it. I won't be home in time to get the names I want. <img src="http://images.subeta.net/smilies/smiley_sadface.gif" border="0" />
<img src="http://images.subeta.net/smilies/6398_emoticon_shocked.gif" border="0" /> YYYYYYES!!!! >:3
I sure wish they would do that on youtube though. -.-
I sure wish they would do that on youtube though. -.-
I'm sure a lot of people will be happy about it. <img src="http://images.subeta.net/smilies/6398_emoticon_smile.gif" border="0" />
yeah, since the new 'stealth' mode thing happened, all accounts that haven't been on since then remain in 'hidden' status. It's a little irritating.
Thats my dads birthday <img src="http://images.subeta.net/smilies/6398_emoticon_grin.gif" border="0" /> Will make a note to remember this. And will start to snoop names.

I wish there was a way the user that will get their account cleared to have their "Hidden" last seen changed so people can see if they have been on. All the names I want for a pet, the owners have "hidden" as their last seen lol. Oh well. Guess I'll just have to hope for the best.

Awesome! Hopefully I can get the pet name I want for my last slot. <img src="http://images.subeta.net/smilies/6398_emoticon_smile.gif" border="0" />

AHHH! Awesome <img src="http://images.subeta.net/smilies/6398_emoticon_grin.gif" border="0" />

Oh boy. Good luck, everyone <img src="http://images.subeta.net/smilies/6398_emoticon_smile.gif" border="0" />



Again? Didn't this happen like... some months ago? xD
I'm not complaining, nothing about it bothers me, I'm just pointing out xD
I'm not complaining, nothing about it bothers me, I'm just pointing out xD
is sooooo excited can't wait <img src="http://images.subeta.net/smilies/6398_emoticon_smile.gif" border="0" />

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Very excited! I just wish there was a way of knowing if a frozen account has been inactive for the ten months or if I'll be sitting there refreshing it like mad for no reason, :U
Non-frozen accounts not active for a year are going to be cleared??? I'm so glad I logged back on this site. <img src="http://images.subeta.net/smilies/6398_emoticon_raspberry.gif" border="0" />

Damn, I just realized I'm going to be gone most of Tuesday. But...in the afternoon, so maybe I can still be here. Yay for being three hours behind Subeta time. <img src="http://images.subeta.net/smilies/6398_emoticon_grin.gif" border="0" />

If I had the $$, I'd be changing Kuro's name, but it'll have to wait. Good luck to all those changing user/pet names!


Perfect! I can finally activate my 1 Week GA and autoprice all the crap in my shop, along with getting new pets! xD
Cool ^^ Changed my username in the last wipe so I'm happy for now <img src="http://images.subeta.net/smilies/6398_emoticon_grin.gif" border="0" /> Good luck to others!
Waaa~ I'll be in school then! But that's okay, I'll still prolly get the names I want. #^.^#

Ooh. I wish I knew if some of the names I've been stalking will be clearing, but since stealth mode was implemented and set as the default, I have no idea if the person was on last year or last week. <img src="http://images.subeta.net/smilies/6398_emoticon_sweatdrop.gif" border="0" /> Well, hopefully I can get one of them, anyway. I need to make a list of the names I want to check. <img src="http://images.subeta.net/smilies/6398_emoticon_raspberry.gif" border="0" /> excited anyway
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haha, got all i ever wanted the last time =)
good luck to all those who didn't =)
good luck to all those who didn't =)

Too bad the names I want won't be free for some time. Sucks. Oh well, maybe this'll give me the opportunity to sell my mystical plushies. =3

@Night
EST is eastern standard time in the real world and also happens to be Subeta's time, which is thankfully the same time zone as me heh.
Good luck to everyone! I'm not looking for any names in this release, but it's great for those who are. And it's nice that they may be a bit more common, not just once a year like usual. Whoot <img src="http://images.subeta.net/smilies/6398_emoticon_grin.gif" border="0" />
EST is eastern standard time in the real world and also happens to be Subeta's time, which is thankfully the same time zone as me heh.
Good luck to everyone! I'm not looking for any names in this release, but it's great for those who are. And it's nice that they may be a bit more common, not just once a year like usual. Whoot <img src="http://images.subeta.net/smilies/6398_emoticon_grin.gif" border="0" />
when? i mean 'how long'.
you should create a tiredness sensor that prevents people from posting if they clearly don't know what they're talking about.
you should create a tiredness sensor that prevents people from posting if they clearly don't know what they're talking about.
YAY <img src="http://images.subeta.net/smilies/6398_emoticon_grin.gif" border="0" />. Too bad I dont have space left for another pet <img src="http://images.subeta.net/smilies/smiley_sadface.gif" border="0" /> Oh well xD
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This is one of the reasons Subeta beats Neopets anytime. Thank you. Greatly appreciated. (x

Just in time for Loyalty Box #4. <img src="http://images.subeta.net/smilies/6398_emoticon_grin.gif" border="0" /> <img src="http://images.subeta.net/smilies/6398_emoticon_grin.gif" border="0" /> <img src="http://images.subeta.net/smilies/6398_emoticon_grin.gif" border="0" />
Nuu I'm not ready for it yet xD
But this is awesome for those who've been waiting for it! <img src="http://images.subeta.net/smilies/6398_emoticon_grin.gif" border="0" />
But this is awesome for those who've been waiting for it! <img src="http://images.subeta.net/smilies/6398_emoticon_grin.gif" border="0" />

There's ONE pet name I want, and the owner's account was made 10 months 2 weeks ago but they only have that one pet...hmm...I hope they haven't logged in XD
Thanks Subeta~
Thanks Subeta~
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You aren't supposed to have other accounts, and you could get frozen for having multiples. oO
You aren't supposed to have other accounts, and you could get frozen for having multiples. oO
well I am happy with my user name and pet names<img src="http://images.subeta.net/smilies/6398_emoticon_smile.gif" border="0" />
ps. I'm so tired that I actually looked for the 'like' button a la facebook before resorting to spamming out LIKELIKELIKE.
pps. is there any way of finding out when someone has been inactive if their account is frozen?
pps. is there any way of finding out when someone has been inactive if their account is frozen?

Also, does EST mean Subeta/American time? (I always thought that they were the same... xD)

Great <img src="http://images.subeta.net/smilies/6398_emoticon_smile.gif" border="0" />
Maybe now I can create pets with the names I actually want.
Maybe now I can create pets with the names I actually want.
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Yay!
now i can name my pet the way i want♥
now i can name my pet the way i want♥
That's Great Thanks Keith<img src="http://images.subeta.net/smilies/6398_emoticon_smile.gif" border="0" />
Excellent <img src="http://images.subeta.net/smilies/6398_emoticon_smile.gif" border="0" />
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Hooray !

I am so hoping for one special name, if I could have it, it would be the most perfect christmas present éver! :'D