Revamps

Pink Long-haired Wig
Sophisticated Prom Dress
Siren Song
Frilly Pink Pants
Pretty Pastel Dress
Toy Ghost
Stray Bobby Pins
The above items have been revamped!
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Posted by SubetaTeam

Mackenzi

They look better with other wearables (thanks necromancy), maybe it's just comparing it to the outdated HA base art that makes them look that way.

Also, RIP in pieces ghost toy.
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necromancy

here's a comparison of these revamps to other recent wearables
love the ghost tho! very cute
2

heartfelt

rip ghost
1

Isilven

LMFAO the poor artists on this site can't do anything nice as far as updates go because there's always a 100+ comment news post thread about I DON'T LIKE THING!

TBH I'm happy the glaringly dark lineart is getting shifted away from. So many older pieces are unusable because they look garish and cartoony.
9

Star

when cws with stronger lineart than these get denied XD
9

SaboKat

These would be nice if they didn't look so stiff and blurry
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Pinocchio

Kinda miss the old wig and frilly pants concepts, wish they would've just improved upon what was there instead of messing with the entire thing. The pink long-haired wig feels so limp on the avatar's head, and the top of the stray bobby pins' hair looks lumpy. I get what you're going for, but this looks strange.

Also, it is a complete tragedy to lose that old ghost.
2

Jasper

Wow, for once, I'm on the the opposite end of the argument. XD I actually don't have a problem with the line art of these pieces but I do wish the pink wig retained it's vibrancy. It's been a problem with revamps since a year or so ago where you guys seemed hellbent on removing anything bright and vibrant. It's gotten to the point where vibrant pets struggle to have matching treasures because all the colors are so muted.

I don't know if it's out of some attempt to be more mature looking to outsiders or a repulsion of eye-burning colors but I do hope you can refrain from muting any other items from this point on.

That said, I love these revamps. The ghost, especially, looks great and oof, the original art of the Sophisticated Prom Dress; woof. Definitely needed a revamp and omg that Pretty Pastel Dress is just perfect. Overall, great, a little muted, have no idea what people are talking about with the line art tho, it look fine to me.
2

Masquerade

Love the revamp on the dresses. And I think I need that bell.
2

Digitalis

Dat pink wig doe :clap:
2

Pluma

oooh yes. that siren song finally looks good in flameshe's TC. <3
1

Loki_826

@SubetaTeam - Will this new style of very thin lineart replace all old lineart? I've been curious for a while now.
3

Sekhmet

The rules for CW were just updated, and clearly state that "Your item and clothing image must have black lineart." Nice to see that the users are held to a higher standard than official Subeta artists.
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MagnusTheRed

Why did the Bobby Pins completely change colour?
2

Jules

@Cyroris ~ Thank you for the previews! Very helpful!

I am not a fan of the new Sophisticated Prom Dress, well mostly just the ruffles.
I loved the previous version and wore it many times!
The rest of the wearable items seem better :)
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horizon

The art is much better but why is everything so gray and faint looking? It looks like that My Little Pony episode with Discord where they get grayer and grayer.
5

Frankenchokies

@seephira

Tons of old items look bad. All the mage amulets, for example, look worse than that ice cream. It's kind of a weird obsession to have, and you talk like they promised you personally to revamp it or something. <.<
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dear_868

I like to think I'm pretty easygoing but the lineart on the wearables really are pretty egregious...did someone set a layer to 50% opacity and forget?
10

Magic

I kinda wish the ghost had been left like that because honestly it was hilarious
3

Angelica

OH GOSH THESE LOOK SO GOOD!!!
Especially loving the dresses and bobbypins, like yes
1

Seoni

Some of them needed it, but I'm not to thrilled about the pink wig.
0

Desilyna

@Cyrosis, thank you so much for the side by side comparisons of all the items!

I cannot for the life of me figure out why so many people are complaining and asking, "Where is the lineart?!" Every item looks so much better, more 3D-looking, more realistic, instead of being obviously drawn and flat. Great job to the artist(s)!
5

Altruism

SOOO much better. It seems most here are blinded by nostalgia, which is unfortunate because I think these revamps are fine. I can see how the overall blurriness might be problematic, but as is it's still way better than the old. Tweaking the blurriness/lineart just a little would make it perfect.

The old blocky lineart is extremely outdated like all of the early internet references on this site.
Looking at you, emo blob kitty.
5

Mavron_Brisque

I just realized... the pants are eating the fingers on the right side, and the base lines are showing through in two places... that's kind of embarrassing.
6

omg_carrie

Honestly not a fan of these, especially the Siren Song. I agree that the light/faint lines look pretty bad.

Does anyone have the old image for the Bobby Pins (the item itself, not the overlay) or was it just the overlay/hair that got revamped?
2

HeadPhonz

i like the new looks overall but i just wish they didn't turn out so dark...especially the hair and pants :c
0

soo

ok but just look at this softie :>
Toy Ghost
1

Exie

The pink wig looks so different. kinda makes me sad.
And i like the old prom dress look better.
Overall I'm not digging these revamps. They don't look right.
1

Samurai

I sincerely like this liness style, it makes stuff more real, and it's a nice way to go but the items are too plain and lacking depht, still boring as before. The artist just have to use a less soft pb to do the outline keeping in mind that it will be resized and stuff, and give a little bit more glow to the items.
4

Snowflake

i prefer the old pretty pastel dress to the revamp one. it used to be so vibrant but now it's dull. :(
2

Samurai

@elka
aaaaaaaaaa ↓
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seephira

@Frankenchokies because it looks bad and outdated. bugs me every time i see it. been a member for 3 years, 4 months and have been asking for that long.
2

Sprinter137

Whyyyy did I have to recently frag half of these because "Eww they're ugly"??? Anyway I like the lineless look. I agree the pants look a LITTLE funky around the edges, but still a great improvement on the hideous old version I refused to even have in my wardrobe
0

Xia

@Forevermore Me too! I love super fine grey outline best. It looks so natural than thick blocky black outline which is so dated as 90's. I also hope that they will update (revamp) the HA bodies too!
5

Frankenchokies

@seephira

Who... who cares? Why do you... why?

I'm not sure why ANY time is spent revamping non-wearables really, I mean if it's like the artist was bored and wanted to doodle a bell whatever sure, but if it doesn't happen so what?
13

Oakairi

I'm actually digging the new revamps. Great job and well done to the artists!
4

serinde

While I like (most) of the new items coming with this delicate lineart, my issue with them is that they look really really weird when matched with some old items which have like ten times thicker lineart. It's kinda limiting the choices in WR.
5

Forevermore

Ooh, I just nabbed the Stray Bobby Pins fairly recently hoping they'd get an update!
Although...I guess I'm in a pretty small minority because I like the thin/nearly nonexistent lineart trend o^o I've been hoping the HA bases themselves would follow suit for a while now, too...hm.
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Mavron_Brisque

@Linnet Yeah, I think that was me, and I still stand by it. You can just tell that the artwork was fine (beautiful, in fact!) at the working resolution, then got messed up while resizing. This very same thing has happened to me loads of times, but there are ways around it. If the artist still has the original artwork in working resolution, it's a very easy fix.
6

jazseraphina

loving the Stray Bobby Pins hair revamp it looks so beautiful!
and like a cw.
thank you so much subeta :D
0

Asunay

OMG i like the hair revamp =)
The blue hair is my favorite <3
2

Linnet

I think these are lovely revamps, but this kind of blurry, too-thin lineart has been a noted problem for some new items for a while now, and I'm not sure why it hasn't been fixed?

I think last time this came up (on a different set of revamps, iirc) someone pointed out that it was likely not even a problem with the initial art, just a problem with the algorithm used for downscaling. Unfortunately I don't recall the specifics.

I feel like it's really noticeable on the Pretty Pastel Dress out of this batch, where I can tell there was more detailing and it's just been blurred to nothing in the resizing process.

I want to be clear that I don't think this is even an art problem so much as a technical problem? I think these are lovely items and this artist does good work, it's just ending up as something that doesn't mesh with other site items well.
30

NeonDinosaur

Still waiting for that magical pants revamp xD
That pink wig looks really nice ??
2

poppy

thankful for the siren song revamp. now it matches the quality of the rest of the items in ecaterina's tc.
2

AlanaBanana

I think we need to find a middle ground between the old items having too much lineart and some of the revamps not having enough :S
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elka

Strawberry Tigrean Ice Cream...
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talisman

why does this seem to happen every time now? a lot of us have expressed our concern for the grey thin lineart before. The art style and shape is gorgeous, is it really hard to darken the lineart a bit?
25

Giratina

Quite awesome ^^.
2

Balloon

I don't wear clothes on my HA so can't comment on that aspect of the revamps, but I agree with all the lineart comments. In my very unexpert judgment, the lineart on most of the item images looks like it would get them rejected if they were submitted as CWs.

I liked the old Toy Ghost just for the Internet 1.0 nostalgia factor lol, and I had sorta hoped it wouldn't get revamped for that reason... but the new one's cute, and I see why it had to be done. (Its lineart still looks grey and not black though!)

100% on board with the Siren Song though! It looks SO much better, and re an earlier comment, I don't think it should be any delicate handbell. It needs to be something sturdy and loud to be heard on a ship, and the description even calls it a "simple bell." There are fancy handbells on the site already, and I like this clunky lil' guy.

...heck I just talked myself into buying one for no good reason.
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Lantern

Yeaaaah, I am all for revamps but I agree with a lot of people here that the soft gray lineart just doesn't work. It makes things look old and blurry.
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Melody

These look great! I've always loved that pink wig, maybe I will be able to make a better outfit with it now. :)
1

KEN

Needs black lineart, not grey. Makes it too hard to make out the details on the items. The revamps are fine but the lines are not defined enough.
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Xia

MUCH better!!! Much! Thank you for such a great job. 10/10! Love it!
3

Fray

you've...... you've destroyed my perfect ghost

why would you even do that???? damn, now I feel like there's no point to it
6

Yuzu

Oh thank god, these are massive improvements. I own some of these items and I'm very happy with these revamps! Good job, artists!
4

Navem

I love the pink wig revamp. I have had t hat for years in my wardrobe and never wore it because I couldnt get it to look right. However, I do not like the revamp of the dress. Thats sad.
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Inknote

uh.. ok I guess.
Line art would be nice.
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seephira

and again Strawberry Tigrean Ice Cream doesn't get a new look. been asking for YEARS FOR IT
4

Kinky

They just look blurry to me. Meh, I think I'll pass on trying to gather these items, for now.
6

Bokuto

yesss i'm so glad for Stray Bobby Pins :D
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MidnightShadow

I remember when subeta had an art director who made sure things like missing lineart didn't go through release! What a fond memory. Those were some brighter, less blurry days.
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Christopher

I miss Luxe. :(
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TaeBae

I think the pink wig looks even better than before. Perhaps a little flat but I still really enjoy the new look. Though, I do see the blurriness that people are commenting about. As I don't own it I am sad, but I created a look anyways in the wardrobe to show it on a HA with clothing as the blank base makes things hard to gauge looks. It's also zoomed in a little to better show the blur.

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topipers

I really like the revamps! They have improved without taking too much away from the original design.
1

innamoramento

it's really interesting how the artists gave up the lineart, though when the CWs were introduced, the rules said "you need lineart to have your CW accepted" or is it my impression?

I have the prom dress and the bobby pins. i only like the new dress, and im sad about the bobby pins. i like the super straight/fake look of the old wig... :/
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Kestrel

Man, I admit that I think staff has produced nicer wears but I'm not sure how anyone looks at the old versions and says that they're better?
They're not. The lineart was clunky, the shading and highlights were awkward or nearly nonexistent and the animation for the siren song consisted of just moving the image around a little. And let's be real. Most of you would never wear these items (especially the dresses and pants) regardless of how they looked.

I'm thrilled to see older things getting some attention, and the item art is something I would not be embarrassed to shove in a TC now so yay for that.
I hope they keep going with revamps. Some of you probably wouldn't know what to do on this site if you didn't have something to complain about anyway.
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Cheshire

Um, I like both those wings and want them on my head RN thankyou
1

Austria

The Stray Bobby Pins was (is?) one of my favorite wigs. I don't think it really needed a revamp? I don't know how I feel about this.
3

Evanesce

Actually disappointed for once. Where is the lineart? Is that... GREY shading on the pink wing? Just not into them this time.
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Christopher

The whole "thin lined wearables/very gradual shading" trend would be fine if that was the consistent style of subeta for the past several years but as it is, the items look doughy and out of place with almost any wearable.
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Avel

The pants really don't look good. They look almost pixelated at the edges. :c
6

Roadkill

the pants especially, look like when you go in photoshop to auto-remove a background and chunks of the piece get taken out too - like the leftmost (the HA's right of the right) leg, is really blocks, and the left goes from the HA's nice line size to non-existent.

sorry for the extra posts x:
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Dice

The new toy ghost's face is a perfect reflection of my feelings towards its revamp. You can't improve in perfection, guys.
3

Roadkill

or wait, did the artist accidentally forget to color said lineart? I see others commenting on it as well.
7

Roadkill

they all look really blurry to me tbh, what happened to the lineart?
18

Tucker

While I couldn't figure out how to work it, I liked the old colors of the prom dress. It had a color shift look on the bottom dark part. Now it just looks flat.

I'm also not a fan of the two pink items. They both look muddied. The wig looks blurry from the face down.

I do love the bobby pins. It was so stiff and plastic looking before.
2

Evy

While the art itself is definitely an improvement, I miss the curves on the prom dress, and the flashy pink of the wig.
I love the pastel dress and bobby pins though!
3

Jesus

Glad people are finally noticing how messed up the line situation is. hopefully it gets fixed soon
12

HirYoshiMa

please stop making things so straight and compressed. the old items have curve and flair. revamps should keep that.
19

Batsquatch

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Rowan

In all honesty, these revamps don't look too good. The lack of lineart on some of the wearables (the
Pink Long-haired Wig
is a glaring example) makes them look somewhat blurry on the base. This is honestly unacceptable and should've been looked over before the revamps went online.
31

Saturnine

I was waiting for that pink wig to be revamped...and I don't have it :(

Mind I .... kind of don't like how it looks now so eh. Those bobby pins are awesome though!
2

Luck

It's a shame new and revamped items are still going for that lineless/gray line/colored line look. They don't match 90% of other wearables, or the base. Looks very weird to me...
38

sakura

so..... is lineart not a thing anymore?
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Johnny_673

I thought revamp was to make something better, not to make something completely different
18

Lucifer

this is shitty ghost toy erasure and i wont stand for it
13

Samurai

awh I loved the old ghost toy jfnfkdn
5

Karasu

I was expecting the siren song to become wearable like a lot of the spells galore items. Will that happen in the future?
8

Laurey

Well some of those prices already shot way up, lol.

Also I'm pretty sure the Siren Song item is supposed to be a bell from a ship/boat, so it makes sense to me that it's a bit more robust and also weathered/worn looking.
9

Plant_569

Patiently awaits strawberry tigrean ice cream comment
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far

Is it just me or all overlays look very blurry?
5

Solsticesprite

These all seem like de-vamps to me.
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I'm with Sirensong, the new image for
Siren Song
is now clunky. Handbells tend to be pretty and gracile but this looks rocky and thick.
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The Frilly Pants are no longer funky and have had the style and fashion removed from them.
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The hairstyles now look limp and tired. Straight hair was fashionable a few years ago so maybe this is what is intended? But the HA has this chibified big fat head and even if you are doing something super-straight you need something that takes up more horizontal room. It's like they were made to be thin enough to hidden by a hat, the artist didn't like them so bad?
7

Carlita

I had a feeling that the
Stray Bobby Pins
will get a revamp in the future. And then, I saw this :D
2

Cyroris

Before & After
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Nomi_Barei

What is Siren Song for?
1

Ying

Overall I really like all of the revamps.

I can't recall what the Stray Bobby Pins used to look like though...
2

Faber

yay revamps!
8

AdamRose444

I like the old look of the Sophisticated Prom Dress better
5

Diprosopus

those are the revamps? :/
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Capybara

The toy ghost finally got revamped!
5

PinkSapphire

I think the dresses are so much prettier!! :heart:
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Cresenta

LOVING that hair revamp *__*
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Sirensong

Not really sure how I feel about the Siren Song...
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