Stick it to the Man!: Pronoun Stickers

He Him Pronoun Sticker
She Her Pronoun Sticker
They Them Pronoun Sticker
Let people know how you identify with these new stickers.
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Posted by [NPC] Rumi

Darkrai

@Daneyule Users can't delete news comments. Most of the offensive ones were deleted by staff
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Umbrella

@Valiska

Valid point. I was using an interpretation of the prefix "anti-", but I guess I need to correct my explanation.
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Daneyule

Can you create some backbone stickers next for the spineless souls who delete their comments after nobody agrees with their poor justifications for hating preferred-pronoun pixel-stickers on a virtual pet site? The comment section doesn't even make sense by the time I get to read it, because half of the OP's & their replies are missing. RIP. 😂

PS: maybe add "subeta is owned and operated by a super gay man and all of his LGBT+ sidekicks" as a disclaimer on the account creation page. Somehow, it's almost 2020 and people still pretend like they're unaware that this website is the virtual equivalent a gay bar. And y'all just let anyone in - no cover charge, armbands, nothin' 💀💀💀
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SaboKat

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Valiska

@Umbrella Nitpick.

People who are antisocial (including people with ASPD, psychopathy, sociopathy, but also including people who are just ... kinda destructive, without having a full-blown personality disorder) are not against SOCIALISING (the intransitive verb, which means to engage with other people). (Extreme introverts and people who are on the spectrum sometimes are opposed to doing much socialising, but that's a different thing entirely.)

I mean--they are involved in gang life, and big business, and politics, and law. All those things that successful antisocial people do--and there are actually a lot of them--require the ability to schmooze.

They are, however, impossible to SOCIALISE (the transitive verb, which takes an object). One socialises one's children. One socialises rescue animals. One attempts to socialise a person with malignant sociopathy. But one fails.
3

Decadent

people actually thinking my comment asking for bottom stickers was serious? wig. people saying it was transphobic to joke about it rn? i'm scalped and my skull is showing. gurl this is pixel stickers on a goddamn pet site, this isn't an lgbt rights assembly. idk how yall can treat this like something that matters. anyway i'm going back to existing in a country where i won't be allowed to have children because i'm trans :^) but at least i'll have subeta stickers to soothe my pain, thank god!!! thanks for protecting this!! it means so much omg bless yall
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Desilyna

@Umbrella, I agree with what all you said, but there is a difference between psychopath and sociopath. "Psychopathy can be thought of as a more severe form of sociopathy with more symptoms. Therefore, all psychopaths are sociopaths but sociopaths are not necessarily psychopaths. According to the Society for the Study of Psychopathy, psychopath traits include: Lack of guilt/remorse."
1

rhino_loupe

I don't care what kind of junk you have or want to have or who you like to rub your junk on. I just want stickers.

@youngexplorer That wasn't Nietzsche. That was John Lydgate, made famous by Lincoln.
2

Banjorie

I don't care what you want to be referred to as! <3 lol I respekkit.
1

Venom

Thank you for continuing to be inclusive to ALL of your patrons. This is another example of why this site continues to be amazing.
7

poppet

Merriam-Webster actually added a fourth definition of “they” to their dictionary recently.
4 - used to refer to a single person whose gender identity is nonbinary

The grammar snob defense is a bit behind the times to say the least.
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Evanesce

Can y'all just be NORMAL for a single day
12

Malachi

As both trans and interested in the BDSM lifestyle, I think both sides are in the wrong. It's hardly transphobic for people to (jokingly or not) suggest top/bottom/Dom/sub, it is however wildly inappropriate for a PG-13 site. If I saw a minor toting a "bottom" sticker in their forum signature, I would block them on grounds that they're openly stating their preferred sexual dynamic/position and if that doesn't sound uncomfy, well...

Unrelated note:
@Umbrella There are differences between "psychopath" and "sociopath" even if they aren't official. I'd give it a goog - simply "sociopath vs psychopath" - because there's a plethora of sites and YouTube videos on it. They're not mutually exclusive but there are some things to separate the terms!
9

Epic

@strife you called?
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Umbrella

WOOOOOOOO. Comment section on fire. So I’m going to shoot my shot, bros.

As a grammar nerd, they/them ticks my brain but I’ve been trying to practice using it to get more comfortable. I still like the less common Zir/Xer. Regardless, language changes to fit the needs of the people speaking it. Facts.

While I’m taking usage I want to raise my biggest pet peeve: Antisocial.

Antisocial means that you are ACTIVELY AGAINST socializing. People who are “psychopaths” are antisocial. People who merely don’t like to be social are ASOCIAL.

Thank you for reading. Please remember asocial vs antisocial.

Bonus word facts: Psychopath and sociopath mean the same thing because they are used colloquially so the meanings are flexible. Neither is an actual diagnosis.
3

Christ

tasteless joke, chill
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Benzin

@Isilven And where, pray tell, was I transphobic? Or any other type of phobic? I simply mentioned D/s. I was NOT hating on ANYONE nor was I negating ANYONE. So DON'T accuse me of something I DID NOT DO.
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Isilven

@Benzin I mean, you could have backed off and apologized to us trans Subetans, but instead you decided to double-down and insist that your transphobia was "just a joke" and that we're all "sensitive" for it. Nah, it was just bog-standard transphobia and you're getting the exact response you deserve for it, hope that helps!
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Benzin

@Christ and @Isilven Obviously MY comment was a joke for fuck's sake.

And if senstive people think I'm a wanklord, so be it.
3

Iris-Vividae23

YES. This is AWESOME. Thank you~! -^ w ^-
*Grabs both the they/them and he/him stickers and wears them proudly*
-' w '-
4

Thireven

Darn it, my tablet changed "these" to "thsee" and I didn't catch it until I already hit post. FML. :(

Anyways, thanks to staff for adding these!
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Thireven

Thsee are nice!
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Kenobi

I grabbed an extra he/him if anyone would like it stuck to them let me know!
5

Christ

i severely hope the people asking for top/bottom/dom/sub stickers are joking
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Isilven

Protip to everyone: This is not the place or time to ask for your kink titles. Your kink title and our pronouns are not comparable whatsoever and it is false equivalence to even deign to bring those things up in a conversation about pronouns. We still get murdered for using pronouns people like @Xena don't think we should use: that is not at all, in any way, shape, or form comparable to what you want to be called in the bedroom, thanks.

TL;DR: Do not bring up kink titles in a conversation about not misgendering people, you look like creepy wanklords
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Isilven

Protip to everyone: This is not the place or time to ask for your kink titles. Your kink title and our pronouns are not comparable whatsoever and it is false equivalence to even deign to bring those things up in a conversation about pronouns. We still get murdered for using pronouns people like @Xena don't think we should use: that is not at all, in any way, shape, or form comparable to what you want to be called in the bedroom, thanks.

TL;DR: Do not bring up kink titles in a conversation about not misgendering people, you look like creepy wanklords
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Vinushka

*slaps 'she/her' on left cheek, 'he/him' on right cheek, and 'they/them' on forehead*

Thanks <3
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Vinushka

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cain

@Desilyna Oh, don't worry, I'm not angry. Honestly? I was just totally baffled that somebody saw my dumb joke post as being serious. Although if you spend a lot of time on facebook as you said, I suppose that does make more sense. Either way, if you were, as you said before, just joking as well, then I don't understand why you @'d me. But I feel perhaps we're getting a bit off topic at this point.
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Desilyna

@cain, Ooorrr, it could mean that I was skimming through the over 150 comments, and I saw a comment with someone correcting someone about the spelling of grammar, and they spelled it wrong. I see that kind of thing all the time on Facebook, and the people are 100% serious. So without knowing you and without reading the entire back and forth conversation, it's impossible to know that you're joking. But there's no reason to get angry with me over it.
7

An_Oni_Mouse

More inclusive items! I love it! Tysm SB staff!
6

Nezra

Awwww! Didn't get one. Too slow here. xD
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Benzin

@Decadent Yes! And Dominant and submissive lol
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Quentin

tbh stickers like these are so boring, we need more cute subeta pet stickers, like of cybills and mallarchies :(
10

Benzin

@Chocolate PIZZAAAAAAAA!
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Muerte

@Lighthouse
It's from the show Xena: Warrior Princess !
2

wizard

YES.
THANK YOU.
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Lighthouse

@Muerte
What movie/show is that gif from? It looks vaguely familiar.
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cain

@Desilyna

I should certainly hope you were joking, because the alternative would mean you actually believed for a second that I think not only can't spell "grammar", but that I'd also go out of my way to try and make others spell it wrong, too. And honestly that's a level of willful chaotic ignorance that's a bit beyond even myself.
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Desilyna

@abel, Oh right, I was joking too
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Darkrai

@Desilyna Yes, a lot of the more hateful comments were deleted within the past couple of hours
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Desilyna

I read through all the comments, and I see a lot of people who are angry about hateful comments, but I don't even see any. Were they deleted? I saw one person wrote "Yikes", and one person said that in our English language we use "they" or "them" when referring to more than one person, which is correct grammar.
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abel

@Desilyna I... I don't know if you're being serious but cain north and i's intentional bad grammar was to poke at the people who brough grammatical correctness into this whole shit storm. it was a joke. that Was the joke. j o k e.
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Desilyna

@cain, actually north was correct. The spelling is "grammar". Gotta love correcting someone and then being wrong. LOL!
2

Sigilmancy

*claps for Valiska speaking the truth*

I've also blocked a fair number of people due to this, but in all honesty I do agree with Loten that the staff need to watch news posts more carefully and do more than just a warning. I have also noticed it's the same people pulling this kind of stuff over and over again (and you can see the repeated behavior in their forum posts and user comments, where available to view publicly from their profiles) and I have no idea why those people haven't already been banned.
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EmilyMae

Yay for new stickers!
Now everyone can go hang out in the sticker shop! All day and all night! You MUST get those stickers 0_0 Just exit the Grooming Parlor in an orderly fashion and run right over there! You don't need those new DipDye box things anyway. Your hair looks fantastic as is! Just concentrate on the pretty new stickers :D nothing else matters!
Yay stickers!
(Pssst...buy extra ones for me that I can buy from you later :D)
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Valiska

Here's the thing that I don't get.

Why do some of you feel a deep, desperate need to know whether every single person you encounter has a penis or a vulva? Why are you so concerned about this that you demand everyone else label themselves in accordance with their genital configuration, even if it causes them immense pain and suffering to do so?

Unless I'm feeling some sort of potential romantic or sexual interest in another person, this information is not relevant to me, and it is not actually my business even then unless the other person feels like telling me.

I was assigned female at birth. I am a girly girl and I like being a girl, but I am aware that my experience, while common, is not universal. But even as a cis person, I'm not really comfortable with the idea that the frilly dresses I like to wear and the pronouns that suit me are meant to tell you what I probably look like with my clothes off, rather than how I identify, how I feel, and what I like.

You wouldn't demand that I pull down my underwear and show you what I've got if we'd just met, so why do you think that people's pronouns and names should automatically convey this personal information?

Why do some of you seem to think that you need to know who in the room has a penis and who doesn't, regardless of how recently you've met them, even if they're five years old? It's not your business, you don't have a right to know this, and it really shouldn't affect how you deal with other people. Why do you care so much? What are you scared of?

Call people what they want to be called because it's the right thing to do, full stop.

And stop speculating about whether or not they have "enough" gender dysphoria to justify their pronoun preferences and style of dress. A decent person who is not actually someone's doctor, nurse or therapist should only care about another person's dysphoria because it's painful, and the right thing to do with someone that you know has dysphoria is to treat them politely and not make it worse than it already is.

If you aren't living inside of someone else's skin it's not your place to tell them who they are and who they have to be.

(If you are living inside of someone else's skin, you are probably a fetus and I'd like to know how you are reading this.)
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QuirkyRabbit

Suggestion: Quentin gives out a they/them sticker with every quest for a week
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QuirkyRabbit

Sooo when I first saw this news post it had less than 10 comments. Sure blew up! I'm cis but I see literally nothing wrong with these. We can never have enough inclusive content.

I can't remember who said something about people referring to themselves as "they/them" but I feel obliged to point out that nobody refers to themselves as "they/themselves"... I believe the correct term is "myself" and everyone uses it regardless of gender so... where's the problem ¯_(ツ)_/¯ In fact, anyone using they/them or a neopronoun might not even be around to hear it part of the time it's being used - it's for _other people_ to use when referring to that person.

I think I counted 3 haters and 2 hate-defenders, but it's great to see they're severely outnumbered.
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Lovespell

These are great, thanks staff! Well done! 😊
( Smh at the "Yikes" comment just getting more and more likes overtime -__- That's a yikes, that that many people would agree with that comment... )
11

Dill

Guys, keep it civil (this is not the place for debate) and please remember that Subeta is a very inclusive community and hatespeech, discrimination, etc. will not be tolerated here.
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Kenobi

Sir, this is a Wendy's.
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Loten

Staff really need to ride herd on posts like this for longer than the first couple of hours.

And also to just ban people who cross the line, because this gets really old really quickly and often it's the same people every damn time.
28

Sovereign

subeta: releases something nice and kind of useful for everyone

a dozen transphobes in a trenchcoat: (rubs hands together) it's my time to shine
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FashPuma

@o0SnowyOwl0o
yeah....stopped reading your novel when you started telling me who can and cannot be trans
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Valiska

@indulge Yeah, you don't see multiple raging grammar-related comments on posts like "10 Dogs Who Forgot How To Dog". Somehow all the people who are so very upset about incorrect usage of grammar manage to either laugh like everyone else or simply ignore that content.
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Valiska

@Day There are opinions, and there are opinions.

It's a dick move to attack someone over differences of opinion in matters of taste. I personally think that pineapple on pizza is an offence against G-d and nature and I really enjoyed Twilight, but I'm not going to call you a douchebag if you love Hawaiian pizza or think that Twilight is a horrible book.

However, the opinion that some human beings aren't worthy of equality, justice, basic respect and civility is not a matter of taste. It's bigotry, and bigotry should not be socially acceptable.
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Sprinter137

@Darkrai
I know, I really don't get it....I'm cis, so while pronouns might not be something I give much of a thought, I understand their importance for those outside the gender binary, and it literally takes nothing to call someone what they want to be called. Bringing up grammar is just laughable, since our society mostly speaks in slangs, made up words, textspeak and memespeak these days. I think you'd find singular they in a dictionary a lot quicker than you'd find "glamping" or "frienemy" lol
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Decadent

pride flags this pronouns that WHERE are the top / switch / bottom stickers??
11

Magi

I just just thinking, you know those speech bubbles that came out a few years ago? I think it would be great to have pronoun ones.

Emo Bubble Love
Emo Bubble Sup
29

Magi

Ah, thanks for reminding me I should put my pronouns into my Subeta bio like I have on my Twitter. :V
3

Darkrai

Imagine jumping through hoops to avoid using pronouns entirely (or trying to), a way that no human being actually speaks in real life (because it's super unnatural to say "a person" or "Bob" in every sentence all the time) just to avoid accidentally respecting another human person.
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indulge

Anyone else suspect that those claiming to be grammar purists/traditionalists just want an excuse not to treat trans/non binary people with respect, and don't care that the way we use language is obviously always evolving in countless ways? I've never seen anyone complaining that the pronoun 'you' used to only be plural, and therefore we should bring back thou/thee for the singular you. Anyone upset that 'literally' now has two entirely contradictory meanings (both in the Oxford dictionary) and you can only guess the meaning from whether you think the context is sarcastic or not? (off topic, but I love the English language) And I'm supposed to believe that one little pronoun change is confusing/difficult even though it's very close to how we've used the singular they for centuries?

But um, whoever the artist is they have done a great job (see what I did there?) and I'm glad that this site is inclusive. Can't believe treating a group of people as human beings is a big ask for a minority on here, but most of ya'll are great. :)
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Quentin

oof x0.5 speed
0

Kenobi

@Sopheroo You're right - I was blind, clowns are the REAL queens. Honk honk.
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Sopheroo

Using Yikes in a newspost is rude, no matter the context of the newspost, ty. A pet revamp? Using Yikes is rude. A new SBQ line? Using Yikes is rude. New Subetapedia entry. Yikes is rude. Yikes is conotative and symbolises *disgust*, *fear*. There isn't anything positive about someone saying Yikes. Especially in that context.

It isn't that hard to understand that pronouns are important to some people. Just because they are not important to you personally doesn't mean they don't matter to someone else.

@Kenobi

uh, i identify as a clown, and i'm a little uncomfortable with that association. clowns support all forms of gender and orientation possible, that wig isn't rainbow for no reason.

#clownrights
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deadmanrojo

i think the she/her sticker is a little difficult to read (i don't have the best eyes/best visual processing) but overall i think this is just delightful!
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Arcy

Y'all are so feral. 😂
Thank you for the stickers! I like them.
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Lirikai

These are great! Would also love to see a wider color selection eventually :)
5

bixbite

are the transphobes getting angry at this aware that they're on a website that has multiple lgbt characters, one of them canonically having no gender & using they/them pronouns? (shoutout to quentin, we love u)
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sans

looking in here was a big fat mistake but now i get to stuff my blocklist so

anyway i luv these stickers thank u <3
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Day

I just wanted to say that attacking people for giving their opinion is not okay, as long as they are not being rude about it. I'm all for freedom of speech, but there's no need to be a jerk for no reason; no matter which side of the argument you're on.

Even though I don't know much about pronouns, I'm glad to see people feel more included and safe because of these stickers :) It will definitely be helpful when addressing someone in the forums.
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Aynjell

People talking about the colors of the stickers...and they all look gray to me >.>
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Sopheroo

The blue/pink coding is used in several pride flags, such as the trans flag, (but also the demiboy/demigirl flags) so I'm not exactly bothered by she/her being pink and he/his being pink - they're the colors used to represent these genders within the community.

If anything, I think I'm more annoyed by they/them being brown, rather than light gray
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Pollux

lmao are people getting mad at words in here?

anyway, these are rad, I just wish the colors were more um fun. and maybe more contrast in the design, they are a little hard to read
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METROID

@Kenobi
It's alright. It's a human thing to react emotionally first, then logically after the emotions calm down.
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METROID

Can both sides not be blithering, braying jackasses for once?
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Kenobi

That comment felt too harsh for me to leave it tbh, sorry. I'll change it to 'haters on here can stay mad'. My sensitive self as soon as I posted that was like no son that's not the right path...
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METROID

@Decadent
That's what happens when the debate forum gets taken away from us lol
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Kenobi

Great stickers! Can't wait to get my trans hands all over the he/him sticker!

and the nasty people on here can die mad about it!
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WolfieWU

Wow, it's like somehow people forgot that language is a thing that evolves over time!
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Atomic

Wow, somebody's triggered. It's disconcerting how many "likes" that hateful little tantrum is receiving. Gross.

Anyway, thanks for the nice stickers!
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Stakely

These were hard to see on my phone so I was like.. what is Ne Nim ???? (i couldn't even see she her)

cool stickers man even if they're hard to see on phone c:<
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Andrea

...

...
What did I just read. Wow.

All I can say, really, is I'm glad I'm not staff. Otherwise I'd be making an entire hoard of they/them items out of sheer spite.
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Chocolate

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Ginseng

Everybody who whines about They/Them pronouns are gonna be PISSED when they suddenly find out they can’t do Quentin’s quests anymore...
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far

I'mma slap all 3 on me.

There we go.
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spiralgalaxis

Andalite_Bandit "entitled"??! Entitled?? In real life, I hide. The internet is the only place I feel safe saying who I truly am. It feels wrong on every level and it HURTS but I don't say anything because I don't want to get yelled at and I want to be hired and I want to be have friends and be safe.

You know that only HALF of all trans people (including nonbinary) live to 30? (mostly because either suicide or getting murdered). I wouldn't exactly call that the picture of entitlement.

It's not an aesthetic. It's not trendy. It's not safe. Every trans person is really brave and deserves a lot better than the shit you're giving them.
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o0SnowyOwl0o

Well... this has escalated quickly.

A mod gonna come in here like:

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Loten

"Hey could you tell that person I need to talk to them?"

...you - you do realise that's literally you using a pronoun, right? That's exactly how pronouns are used. I mean, props for you using the neutral even while angrily swearing about how it's not necessary, but...
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Rocketlauncher

The grammar I was taught were from teachers who followed rules that were formalized far before the end of the previous century. Do we need to be angry at our language? I don't believe that would be necessary. On the other hand, we can't be ignorant of the shortcomings either. We will eventually take the place of our teachers, and be responsible for what we teach. Instead, we need to seek and promote understanding why these rules should be changed in order to gain wide acceptance. (For example, it's really clunky to use "the person" instead of "them" when other pronouns don't suffice.) This also goes for other things we learn and teach.
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Rookie

Yikes, should have known better than to look at the comments.
Loving these stickers anyway, thanks!
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abel

amazing
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o0SnowyOwl0o

What do I do if I just want the stickers for sticker collection purposes?
Will this confuse people or no?
2

Nova

Usually I keep my mouth shut in things like this, but as someone who use to cringe at the grammar side of this, I feel the urge to point out a few things. We use they for a singular person now quite normally in our language. You're at a party, head to the pizza and notice it's gone. In a moment of verbal though you say, "Someone at the last slice of pizza". A person next to you comments, "Yes, they did". They use it because it could have been anyone, they don't know for sure. Could they say, "Yes he or she did", of course, but we don't normally speak that way. And so when you're faced with a situation where you don't feel like a she or a he, what do you do? Sadly, you borrow something else that already exists. "It" sounds offensive as Hell, frankly, so you go with "they". Is it annoying to see they used in this context? Absolutely. It is annoying, because it shouldn't have to be that way. There should be a wonderfully singular pronoun for whoever needs one. I wish we had a plethora to choose from. After all, there is a spectrum that exists in the middle of she and he. But you have to be careful online, because being annoyed at the grammar, at the lack of current options is one thing, but being annoyed at it, and saying that in a place where people have no current choice is another. Be mad at the language, not the people who are being limited by it. Language is not stagnant, it evolves. Every year things get added, removed, changed and so on. The English we speak now is much different than the English of a few hundreds years ago. Hopefully when we look back in the future, we'll feel unbelieving in that there existed a time when this was an issue. Hopefully there are more choices then, that everyone has a pronoun as they deserve. If not, at the very fucking least, hopefully we can update the word "they" to be what it's suppose to be, inclusive of everyone.

That all being said, Subeta, I love you... but the blue/pink thing.... we can do better.
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innamoramento

@Sopheroo
I have yet to hear something similar to 'iel' or 'it' in Romanian ;p
It's good that people created something of the sorts in French. This proves that the language is alive not just used ;) Since i don't live in France, nor actively speak French, i didn't hear it, hence i couldn't know. Thank you for telling me :)
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Rocketlauncher

I cringe every time when a news post reaches 100 comments.
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Sopheroo

@innamoramento

In French, the pronouns "iel" is a neologism used for people who are non-binary, but it's a very recent thing, and most media, written and oral, will prefer using the default "il" for unknown gender instead.

We're not quite as progressive as english is, but I could see the common usage of a french neutral pronoun in my lifetime!
3

Decadent

subeta is really giving me 2012 tumblr discourse vietnam flashbacks with all these mogai-ish updates and how aggressive the comments get lmao
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Frankenchokies

@Valiska

It... was my joke?
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spiralgalaxis

*sigh* the grammar people have showed up again...

Go away. You know the rules are made by the people in power, and that applies to the rules about "proper" language as well? A lot of marginalised people have to break the "language rules" when expressing themselves because "mainstream", "proper" language doesn't include the words for how they feel.
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innamoramento

I didn't even realize we didn't have these, so thanks for adding them. But don't we also need the I/you/us as well, now? (just wondering)
I understand the purpose of these ones, so please don't bite my head off for a small question.

Quote:
But I cringe every time I hear a singular person refer to himself or herself as they or them. It goes against basic grammar.
I almost spilled my coffee reading this... i seriously can't stop laughing XDDDDDD
Everywhere i go i hear people using bad grammar and they don't give a flying crap!

Chinese has a single word for he/she/it, it's just written differently. i believe there's no Romance language that has a gender-neutral pronoun like English does. And then there's Finnish or Swedish with no such pronouns, of any gender... so people from any country trying to learn any of these languages have a hard time figuring out which pronoun to use... Should they just not speak because they're scared of making a mistake that goes against basic grammar? Like whaat?? LMAO!
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Valiska

@KimC People who refer to themselves as they are not properly described as "himself" or "herself". (Especially not in allcaps.)

They are neither male nor female. Would you prefer that they refer to themselves as "it"?

Seriously, what is your problem with understanding that people use singular they to refer to themselves because the English language does not offer any "official" gender-neutral pronouns for people, as opposed to objects?

Language, grammar and spelling change over time. It's a natural process.
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SaboKat

@KimC You're still incorrect lmao
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north

@cain oh sry

hAv FuN wiF uR gRamMeR
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cain

@north grammer*
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Valiska

@Frankenchokies "It's just a joke!" is a lame defence even when the person who is being racist/sexist/homophobic/transphobic makes it themselves. Making it on the behalf of someone else is just...weird.
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abel

@KimC It typically occurs with an unspecified antecedent.

;)
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north

i cringe every time someone has to impose cisnormativity on other people when it's none of their business (^:

have fun with ur grammar.
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KimC

@SaboKat Please note that that is in reference to an UNSPECIFIED person, not a person who in a conversation refers to HIMSELF or HERSELF as they.
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Sopheroo

For people who want to educate themselves on the usage of the singular they, my sources are from this link : https://public.oed.com/blog/a-brief-history-of-singular-they/
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Sopheroo

@KimC

The new Oxford Dictionary has accepted the usage of the singular they for the last twenty years. However, still according to the Oxford Dictionary, there has been presence of the singular "they" since late in the fourteenth century, meaning that it could have been used in verbal language earlier than that.
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SaboKat

@KimC
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Singular_they

Lmao it's been used for centuries, fake grammer girl
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cain

@abel

jum its spelled grandma*
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abel

@KimC um your really letting grammer get in the weigh of how ppl want too express themselfs? ;)
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Valiska

@KimC Jane Austen disagreed with you.
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KimC

@Sopheroo As someone who loves the English language, I have no problem if someone uses the pronouns she/her/hers or he/him/his, no matter what the physical gender is. But I cringe every time I hear a singular person refer to himself or herself as they or them. It goes against basic grammar.
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Rococo

These are great!! I'm very thankful for all the trans/non-binary inclusive/focused items. It makes me feel seen and I appreciate that 💛
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youngexplorer

Fellas, remember what ole' Nietzsche once said 'you can please some of the people some of the time, but you can't please all of the people all of the time'. So quit complaining if the stickers are blue or pink or whatever, and just thank the nice Subeta staff for the great stickers. )sticking my tongue out at all of ya)
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Laurey

The only thing "yikes" about this is people who have been on Subeta for years and are somehow still surprised whenever they're reminded that the staff and majority of users are LGBT+ friendly. Like where have you been?
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Dracona

my pet Mx needs one!
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Benzin

For those who dislike/can't accept that the world isn't black and white and humans come in a wide spectrum of colours, genders, sexualities etc. and that Subeta reflects that: why are you here? I'm not demanding you leave, absolutely not, I'm just curious.
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Julian

@Sigilmancy

Yeah I saw that after I'd posted. Good point, there's no reason to waste time and energy on someone like that.
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Sigilmancy

@Julian

Considering they asked if it would be a 'hate crime' to put the wrong pronoun sticker on someone I can also only assume this. Best not to waste any more time and effort on them, it's not worth the time or energy.
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Sopheroo

Yeah, I think that "Yikes" on a post about pronouns sticker is that bad, and I'm cisgender. If anything, I think that that one word can only represent disgust, and their subsequent comments weren't much kinder. No, they were more "Yikes"

But let's extrapolate, shall we?

That Yikes, as well as the four people who have liked the post, wasn't said because they hate the concepts of personal pronouns - these individuals most likely use gendered pronouns for themselves. The issue isn't with the art either - the art is simple, efficient, and doesn't look like it came straight from 2005. It's a modern style, and it works well. Kudos to the artist.

So, if they don't have issues with the concepts of pronouns in linguistics, and have no issues with the art, what could they be "yiking" about? The answer is quite obvious, isn't it.

Could it be the fact that people they don't think "worthy" of these pronouns are now free to use these items. Could that disgust be loathing towards people who do not want to abide by the gender binary, people who feel more comfortable with other pronouns than the ones they were assigned at birth.

Extremely likely.

Subeta has been, from its inception, including of everyone. We have gay, lesbian, agender, transgender, non-binary, aromantic, asexual; and we could keep on talk about the bodily and racial diversity shown on site. Subeta has been lightyears ahead of most media, and that's important to mention it.

In conclusion, while I think that "Yikes" is never an acceptable answer to any news post on Subeta, it's doubly disturbing to me, concerning the subject.
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Julian

@Frankenchokies

Sigh. You know I'm not considering you quoted me and you were whining about people being angry. :unamused: I was right that your feelings about people's identities don't change reality and there's no valid reason to defend an anti. I can only assume you're also one.
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Frankenchokies

*Another
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Frankenchokies

@Sigilmancy

Anither good point... I was just thinking a wearable button would make more sense.

Or do we have those already? We might, in which case nevermind.
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Frankenchokies

@Julian

You seem to be talking to someone else.

Side-note, will it be considered a hate crime to mis-sticker someone?
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Sigilmancy

@Frankenchokies Seeing as how you can now also do the item= code they have much more use than just stickers. People can use that code to put them in profiles or signatures to let others know how they identify, and it can be great TC fodder for pets as well so their gender is more visible than just the site's markers. Plus, as pointed out, you can use the Hustler's service to stick stickers on yourself :)
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Julian

@Frankenchokies

Can't even mention me but I see you anyway. Yep, antis' opinions are worth less than dirt and people are rightfully angry when someone goes out of their way to be nasty about their identities. Again, why do you people feel you deserve respect when you show none? Why should anyone take you, your identity, name, occupation, whatever seriously when you choose not to take others' seriously? Do you really not understand why people get angry and upset when you disrepect them?
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Frankenchokies

@Benzin

Oh yeah, forgot about that...
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Frankenchokies

Instead of "let people know" it should be, like, "let friends know so they can stick you and let people know".
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Benzin

@Frankenchokies You can use the Hustler's service to have stickers stuck on yourself. ^_^
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Frankenchokies

Also don't know how these stickers are supposed to be used, I mean you sticker FRIENDS not yourself so seems weird...
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Frankenchokies

Read all the anti-Xena comments before seeing the actual comment... and it was only "Yikes"? Seriously you're crucifying them for that? XD

Unintentionally ionic comment:

"though your feelings don't change reality"

Haaaaa. Oh my.
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Benzin

I'm cis, he/him/his and like blue.
BUT perhaps the artist/s could do a recolour on the stickers to something other than blue and pink. Perhaps purple and yellow or green and orange? That way everyone can be happy with the items. Hopefully. ^_^
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Sigilmancy

Nice to spot (and block) the bigot. But I will agree it is somewhat 'yikes' to see that the male and female pronoun stickers are colored in the stereotype of the gender binary ):
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Battykins

I literally came to the comments just to spot the bigot
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Cereza

aaaaaaah, this is true blessed content <3
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Sopheroo

Did you know cisgender people also use these pronouns, @Xena.

Save your yikes for something else
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amethyst227

Very good idea! :)
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Valiska

@Xena Have you considered choosing a username that better reflects your personality? Because I can't imagine the legendary Xena looking approvingly upon your commentary here.
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abel

v. agree
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Jovi

hmmm cool cool cool
but emmm ..kind of weird to see the him sticker being blue and the her sticker being pink ):
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Zii

Can we have a "Zii" sticker? ;)
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Yuzu

Oh frick yes!!!
Myself and my non-binary sibling thank you for this inclusivity. <3
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Aline

I love these stickers! (And I love the block function, this way I can block any naysayers!)
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Muerte

My pets when I finally get my paws on these for their TCs
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Varsna

this is actually perfect as stickers??? love this so much!! :mouse2:
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Kinky

I LOVE these! Thank you!
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kylonaberrie

thanks so much for these!! would love to see more pronoun sets in the future too
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abel

imagine being anti on subeta lmao
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Benzin

Thank you for these new stickers! <3

Also, I'm glad the likes of Xena speak out, because it helps me identify who to avoid interacting with.
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Rarity

These are awesome! Any chance of getting Zie/Zem? :)
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Starfleet

LOVE!
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Misthios

*quiet little cry of joy*
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Mail

Ahhh thank you!!! :D
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monie

I like how they're all equally common :)
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Chrysariel

Nice! Thanks!
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Balloon

Thanks for these! Super useful :heart:

(also echoing all the thanks for making them common rarity)
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Decadent

ok pronoun bio
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Skolletta

Ah, precious! <3
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Julian

@Xena

It costs nothing to be respectful of others. Even if you disagree with someone's identity (though your feelings don't change reality) there's no valid reason to be rude about it. You can just keep quiet. You're choosing to go out of your way to be rude and you're punching down. That's called being a bully. Is that really how you want to live your life? And do you honestly feel that you're deserving of respect when you refuse to show it to others and go out of your way to be nasty?
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Amae

Oh I need so many of these for tcs!
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Xena

@Isilven @strife

Lol.
Yikes.
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Julian

@Xena

Uno reverse card
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Talespin

These are awesome! I love you Subeta. ♥️
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Saix

Oh Nice That's What I Like To See

Ty SB
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Tinkerbell

Love them! Looking forward to seeing some of the others added <3
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Cheshire

I love this. Thank you Subeta
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spiralgalaxis

*squeals excitedly and grabs a they/them*

Thanks for making them common enough to be grabbable :D
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Isilven

@Xena LMFAO yikes? Are you new to Subeta dot com, the website created by Keith after Neopets told him he was being too gay? This is a pro-LGBTQA+ zone, yo.

Also HELL YEAH I NEED FIFTY THEY/THEM STICKERS YEE HAW COMPADRES!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Neji

I really appreciate them being low rarity... I was afraid "they/them" might be of a higher rarity for some reason. Thank you, staff!!
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strife

@Xena yikes yourself this is epic
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Clovis

LOVE these!!!
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Xena

Yikes.
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bobbins

Aww, these are rad. I love how inclusive this site is.
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Larson

Now THAT'S what I call an awesome addition. Tysm staff
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Pinocchio

Personally I've never minded being wrongly addressed, some MMOs and the like, people just inherently called me "he" for some reason, I'd just politely correct and move on in life, if they continued they continued, it never bugged me.

Not arguing against these or anything, just providing my personal experience. I understand others will feel differently.
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SaboKat

Awesome, thank you!!
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Chiibi

This is great~ Thank You Subeta for being an Inclusive space!
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Muerte

I love these, but they don't hELP WHEN ON THE PHONE.
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Alana

AH!! Can't wait to add it to my forum signature! So helpful, thank you!
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bixbite

i love these!
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Sprinter137

I'm just waiting for the comments lol
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Faber

These are neat!
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Vioran_Soldier

How about no pronoun?
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Shark

ooh these are fantastic! love them ♥️ Thank you for making them!
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Memorv

LOVE IT.
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Johnny

stickers are proving to be unexpectedly useful
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Julian

:D Awesome!
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Ocean_Mage

: DDDD
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Mesmer

TY for making these common rarity.
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