Subeautique: Mimi Moe Pride
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Maddox
It took me too long to see the trans flag and now I need!!! I love of the inclusiveness this site has for the LGBTQA+ community. I need the pins and that jacket <3 (I do love the line, but hope to see a masculine line (or a npc like we have Jogoh) someday perhaps for us transmen/transmasculine folks too but for now I need these and I need those pins for my pet's TC :D)
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LowAngleShot
I love the explicit support from this site, like they have the specific flags and characters, as opposed to some media that just say "be yourself" and "love is love"; Subeta is specific in their support and allowing people to express their identities. x
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SongSparra
Had this come up in a news mail I get, it's a must watch of a very cool little 7 year old girl putting things into perspective.
https://www.sbs.com.au/news/gender-whisperers-scott-morrison-criticised-for-hateful-tweet-about-trans-students?cx_cid=edm:newsam:2019
https://www.sbs.com.au/news/gender-whisperers-scott-morrison-criticised-for-hateful-tweet-about-trans-students?cx_cid=edm:newsam:2019
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LilyValentine
@hanukkah I can't speak for anyone else but my thought process was just THIS IS THE CUTEST THING IN THE WORLD I HOPE THEY MAKE MORE - though there are plenty of rainbow items on Subeta, I really hope they do other types of pride outfits! For me it's not about "Why this one and not this one?" but more "I love this one so I want other ones." Rainbow is so often the only representation available and while I personally love it (I know lesbians can have a complicated relationship with it but, well...I just really like rainbows, so it works out for me; plus the lesbian flags are strongly associated with gender expression and I'm neither femme nor butch so IDK which one I should even use), Subeta is a site I feel like can be counted on to represent more than one group of people at a time and I think they'll take that feedback to mean "There's a market for more of these," not "Shoot, no one wants trans pride items, back to the rainbows!"
I declined to ask if there would be more similar sets for just this reason - I didn't want to seem like I was being I ARE UNCOMFORTABLE WHEN NOT ABOUT ME - but I was wondering/hoping! (I'm also hoping for more quest shop flags at some point!)
I declined to ask if there would be more similar sets for just this reason - I didn't want to seem like I was being I ARE UNCOMFORTABLE WHEN NOT ABOUT ME - but I was wondering/hoping! (I'm also hoping for more quest shop flags at some point!)
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MagnusTheRed
@Abel Their posts are all gone... Good riddance, but it's sad that all proof of how awful their are is gone.
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demon
if anyone likes the owl persons post please give me your username so i can block you thanks ;)
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Strength
Preaching compassion and then calling trans folk mentally ill in a post that's meant to celebrate them isn't compassion. Just saying.
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Valiska
@o0SnowyOwl0o Normal human variations in gender and sexuality shouldn't be equated to mental illnesses. That's messed up.
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Toby
@o0SnowyOwl0o
As a trans man, I do not appreciate you feigning concern about trans male representation in order to attack this outfit. I say "feigning" because you don't seem to support trans representation in general. I can speak for myself, and I am thrilled about these clothes (which I already said in this thread). I will not let people use "concern" for me to hurt my trans sisters.
Most of the clothing on Subeta is feminine anyway. It only makes sense that Subeta's first trans pride clothing set would focus on feminine styles. The first of everything on Subeta is feminine. Besides, there was a clear effort to include some items that trans people of any gender expression can use. Like the shoes.
I see no reason to believe that this is the one and only trans pride outfit that Subeta will ever have, so I think it's a bit early to complain about a lack of masculine clothing. But if you're not trans, it's seriously not your business to begin with.
Besides, not every trans woman is feminine, not every trans man is masculine, and not every non-binary person is androgynous. I have a more feminine expression, both IRL and on my HA. I can use all of these items except the hair and eyes. And the reason I wouldn't use the eyes has nothing to do with gender expression. It's just that I have brown eyes, and since I make HAs to express myself, I don't make HAs with blue eyes.
Also, I have an anxiety disorder and depression (for starters). Mental health issues are very common among trans people, because of how much gender dysphoria sucks, and because of how we're treated by society. It's especially bad if we are rejected by our families. So it's mostly the same reason that mental health issues are more common among non-trans LGB people.
So if you're concerned about mental health issues? This outfit, as well as the overall trans-positive attitude on Subeta, can and will have a positive impact on the mental health of trans people. (Same goes for the LGB representation/acceptance on Subeta and the mental health of LGB people.) Trans issues and LGB issues are not separate from, or in competition with, mental health issues. They're intertwined.
Something like this may seem small, but it's huge to us. Do you know how rare it is to see trans pride stuff? Or how good it feels when we do see it? As I said in my previous comment, I had to hover over six items before it hit me that the "pride" meant "trans pride". And I'm a trans guy. I'm familiar with the trans pride flag and colors. But even on Subeta, a site that does actually have some trans representation, my brain was just going "DOES NOT COMPUTE" until it saw the literal trans pride flag on the pin item.
And when it did compute? It made my day. I almost started to tear up, I just felt so overjoyed to be represented and accepted like that. (That should say something about how we're usually treated or how we expect to be treated. People who aren't starved for acceptance and positive representation aren't going to get this touched by an outfit on a pet site.)
As a trans man, I do not appreciate you feigning concern about trans male representation in order to attack this outfit. I say "feigning" because you don't seem to support trans representation in general. I can speak for myself, and I am thrilled about these clothes (which I already said in this thread). I will not let people use "concern" for me to hurt my trans sisters.
Most of the clothing on Subeta is feminine anyway. It only makes sense that Subeta's first trans pride clothing set would focus on feminine styles. The first of everything on Subeta is feminine. Besides, there was a clear effort to include some items that trans people of any gender expression can use. Like the shoes.
I see no reason to believe that this is the one and only trans pride outfit that Subeta will ever have, so I think it's a bit early to complain about a lack of masculine clothing. But if you're not trans, it's seriously not your business to begin with.
Besides, not every trans woman is feminine, not every trans man is masculine, and not every non-binary person is androgynous. I have a more feminine expression, both IRL and on my HA. I can use all of these items except the hair and eyes. And the reason I wouldn't use the eyes has nothing to do with gender expression. It's just that I have brown eyes, and since I make HAs to express myself, I don't make HAs with blue eyes.
Also, I have an anxiety disorder and depression (for starters). Mental health issues are very common among trans people, because of how much gender dysphoria sucks, and because of how we're treated by society. It's especially bad if we are rejected by our families. So it's mostly the same reason that mental health issues are more common among non-trans LGB people.
So if you're concerned about mental health issues? This outfit, as well as the overall trans-positive attitude on Subeta, can and will have a positive impact on the mental health of trans people. (Same goes for the LGB representation/acceptance on Subeta and the mental health of LGB people.) Trans issues and LGB issues are not separate from, or in competition with, mental health issues. They're intertwined.
Something like this may seem small, but it's huge to us. Do you know how rare it is to see trans pride stuff? Or how good it feels when we do see it? As I said in my previous comment, I had to hover over six items before it hit me that the "pride" meant "trans pride". And I'm a trans guy. I'm familiar with the trans pride flag and colors. But even on Subeta, a site that does actually have some trans representation, my brain was just going "DOES NOT COMPUTE" until it saw the literal trans pride flag on the pin item.
And when it did compute? It made my day. I almost started to tear up, I just felt so overjoyed to be represented and accepted like that. (That should say something about how we're usually treated or how we expect to be treated. People who aren't starved for acceptance and positive representation aren't going to get this touched by an outfit on a pet site.)
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Les
!!!!! this is wonderful! I hope we get more lines like this from other designers too, but gods this one is so cute! A great collection of wonderful trans pride themed items and learning about Mimi!
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Aline
I wonder if Mimi and Jogoh would get along well... They could certainly bond over shared experiences, and I'm proud of them both <3
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acid
not to be dramatic but this is the cutest thing i've ever seen and i'm super excited to have more backstory on mimi. hope you guys plan to give us some insight on all of the subq designers - gotta be some awesome tales behind those designs and i trust the creative team at subeta to be able to tell all of them. <3
also, just a general question but if you see a specific issue being addressed or a marginalized group being honored, why is your first reaction to come to the comments to complain because a different group isn't getting attention? that seems sort of counterintuitive and reductive to the point of something like this - yes, the world is full of different struggles and not everyone is going to share the same ones, but can't we all celebrate small victories without needing to take the spotlight from them? :c
also, just a general question but if you see a specific issue being addressed or a marginalized group being honored, why is your first reaction to come to the comments to complain because a different group isn't getting attention? that seems sort of counterintuitive and reductive to the point of something like this - yes, the world is full of different struggles and not everyone is going to share the same ones, but can't we all celebrate small victories without needing to take the spotlight from them? :c
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Queer
Hey, uh, o0SnowyOwl0o? Your whole comment is a mess, but why did you put trans in scare quotes?
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Frenchi
lfmao the clothes are feminine bc mimi moe is a trans woman and this is a line about her pride as a trans woman!! jfc people...
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Toby
Sorry, I forgot I need to turn it into a link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transgender_flags#Transgender_Pride_Flag
The trans pride flag has been around for almost 20 years, so it's also traditional and established.
The rainbow pride flag is a good umbrella flag that can represent all LGBTQ+ people, but it's definitely more associated with LGB people, just like how people say "LGBT" when they don't really mean to include the T. I like the rainbow flag too, although I'm also pansexual, so I might feel differently if I was straight.
But even though I like it, it still doesn't represent trans pride to me the way the trans pride flag does. Being trans and being LGB are not the same thing, even if a lot of trans people are also LGB. It's important to have a flag that's specifically for trans pride.
The trans pride flag has been around for almost 20 years, so it's also traditional and established.
The rainbow pride flag is a good umbrella flag that can represent all LGBTQ+ people, but it's definitely more associated with LGB people, just like how people say "LGBT" when they don't really mean to include the T. I like the rainbow flag too, although I'm also pansexual, so I might feel differently if I was straight.
But even though I like it, it still doesn't represent trans pride to me the way the trans pride flag does. Being trans and being LGB are not the same thing, even if a lot of trans people are also LGB. It's important to have a flag that's specifically for trans pride.
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Toby
@Tuesday
The rainbow flag is the gay or LGBTQ+ pride flag. It's not the only pride flag that exists. The trans flag, which is used in this outfit, is also a pride flag. Pink, blue, and white are trans pride colors.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transgender_flags#Transgender_Pride_Flag
The rainbow flag is the gay or LGBTQ+ pride flag. It's not the only pride flag that exists. The trans flag, which is used in this outfit, is also a pride flag. Pink, blue, and white are trans pride colors.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transgender_flags#Transgender_Pride_Flag
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Visforviolet
I really love the icon art. This set is so cute. And, hasn't the lineart always been that thickness? >_> Anyway, that pastel hair is just gorgeous. Thanks!
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fizz
I agree that the line art is too thick. Also I expected actual rainbows. Do we even have a rainbow 'tique line?
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demon
i concede that i didn't notice that feminine pronouns were used but it's only on one item so im sorry
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GENGAR
for those complaining i think the point is mimi moe is. a transgirl..................................... if im reading the descriptions right. why wouldnt it be femme coded for. a transgirl?
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Aztec
Love the concept, not particularly impressed with the art. The thick lines and shading make it look a little outdated.
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Frenchi
i will agree that i wish the lapel pins were bigger and more visible. the item art is gorgeous, but on the actual HA they just look like blurry little blobs :(
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Isilven
This is so lovely! I appreciate the throwback to thicker lineart. I have poor vision, and some of the newer items with the thinner, more subtle outlining loses a lot of the gorgeous detail for me. Rock the hell on, trans sibs <3
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NeonDinosaur
As a trans person I love these!! I hope to get those eyes and jacket.
Only complaint is that the line art is a little too thick imo but it doesent really matter since a lot of the older wears have thick line art anyway
Only complaint is that the line art is a little too thick imo but it doesent really matter since a lot of the older wears have thick line art anyway
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SongSparra
The meaning to the items great, the items meh. They seem heavily lined more like the old art styles of Subeta's younger days than what we've seen of late.
Don't hate me for saying this it's just an opinion and they are still lovely in their own right just not as good as what has been on offer.
Don't hate me for saying this it's just an opinion and they are still lovely in their own right just not as good as what has been on offer.
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WolfieWU
This set is SO cute, I don't know if I want to wear it, or put it into Moogenta's treasure chest!
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Pun
Quote by pun:
To be worn with a perhaps?
Quote by @Toby:
:D Glad to give you a happy, even if it's only by mentioning something that you happened to have missed! There was a whole line of sashes released for Pride week. HOW DID I MISS THOSE???
Item not found: nb pride sash
If anyone needs them but doesn't have the Quest Points, remember the Wanted board; QP usually sell for 20k, so you could get one sash for 100,000 or the whole set for 700,000. :)
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Marine
Oh. Oh my goodness this is absolutely wonderful!
I don't really do HA stuff but I definitely at least need that pin for either Clubhooked and/or Eirin. <3
I don't really do HA stuff but I definitely at least need that pin for either Clubhooked and/or Eirin. <3
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Toby
I was on another page and saw "pride" in the announcement name and was like "ooh rainbows?"
Then I saw the clothes and was like "no rainbow? :( just pink and flower? why did they call it pride then???"
Then I got to the lapel pins and was like
OHHHH
HOLY SHIT
I'm just so not used to seeing trans pride items in mainstream things
even as a trans guy, I didn't even consider trans pride an option until six item hovers in
granted, I am feeling foggy today, but still
thank you, this means so much to me ;__;
also, yeah, I'd love to see a more masculine trans pride outfit as well sometime, but you did a good job of providing some variety here IMO
sure, the overall set is feminine, but the shoes and pins go with any HA, and the shirt is more masculine
(also the pins are perfect for TCs!)
(I'm a feminine/androgynous guy, and sometimes I make feminine HAs where the jacket and/or shorts would be great. but I don't do that all the time, and some trans people might not have a feminine expression at all, so yeah. the shoes in particular are great.)
Then I saw the clothes and was like "no rainbow? :( just pink and flower? why did they call it pride then???"
Then I got to the lapel pins and was like
OHHHH
HOLY SHIT
I'm just so not used to seeing trans pride items in mainstream things
even as a trans guy, I didn't even consider trans pride an option until six item hovers in
granted, I am feeling foggy today, but still
thank you, this means so much to me ;__;
also, yeah, I'd love to see a more masculine trans pride outfit as well sometime, but you did a good job of providing some variety here IMO
sure, the overall set is feminine, but the shoes and pins go with any HA, and the shirt is more masculine
(also the pins are perfect for TCs!)
(I'm a feminine/androgynous guy, and sometimes I make feminine HAs where the jacket and/or shorts would be great. but I don't do that all the time, and some trans people might not have a feminine expression at all, so yeah. the shoes in particular are great.)
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curbdirt
Would've died over a Lyrical line instead. :smirk:
This is a cute small set tho :kissing_closed_eyes:
This is a cute small set tho :kissing_closed_eyes:
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Neuvillette
Such a cute set! Exciting for all my trans friends here on subeta, it looks adorable <3
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Diprosopus
i think it was my internet nvm. these look so good i wish i somehow hadnt spent my 12 subeautique invites.
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jensen
everything is... so cute............ @Amber just to make sure, there's no mouth with this set, right?
Topic: mimi moe pride previews
Topic: mimi moe pride previews
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Johnny_673
screams I just started collecting subq lines and was hoping for a new one but this is beyond any expectation ;;
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