Friendly Challenger: Euclid

Look, I'm real busy trying to prevent my zapper from birthing forth any more ABOMINATIONS, and also developing some new skins for the human zapper because I hate how much Asmodumbest's boyfriend dominates Morostide as if they OWN it or something. I make entire new species and they just attract litter to their vegetable garden!! I haven't got time to fight you, and you probably don't have the patience to fight me. You're just going to have to take your tokens and give them to me and expect nothing extra.
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Jules

yay, finally!
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welp

I'm sorry Euclid but he's just too cute fite me
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Cordyceps_sapiens

He saw me whining and took pity on me, lol
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Cordyceps_sapiens

Days later, I'm still zapping. Come oooonnnnnnn
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Lugosi

HOW I GOT CHALLENGED
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Jules

I am still zapping... taking forever
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Life

Your pet transformed into a Experiment #1337.

Haha I'm annoyed.
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Shaman

How I got Challenged
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Zumai

how I unlocked him
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StarShadow

Argh, after all this work trying to get him I can only get 4 wins because of not being able to use spells. Darn. :(
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StarShadow

I FINALLY just got him and disappointed to discover you can't use spells.
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Yugyeom

zapping... zapping... zapping some more... -_-'
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EmilyMae

I am really getting sick of zapping. We should not have to waste sp or tokens on an opponent.
Wonder when the next TS restock is.
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Julie

I've been zapping since the get go... still no chibi pet... why... Euclid... why!!!!
After 10 it should be automatic!
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StarShadow

Been zapping a pet for days and still nothing. I thought they put a force trigger on it, otherwise it could take years to get the right one.
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Pinocchio

Just unlocked him. Bwahahaha that text.
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Snowwall

...is the human zapper _meant_ to be on the same cooldown as this thing? :/
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Paddy

Yay
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StarShadow

I sure hope it forces the unlock after a certain number of zaps because otherwise it might take some people years to get the right one, if ever.
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Paddy

Almost but not quite?
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Marianne

Been zapping from the beginning, but
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Asunay

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gitto

This is really starting to annoy me now- I don’t think unlocking these challengers should be based on randomly getting lucky, even if it makes sense for it to have something to do with the zapper
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moonstarr

My poor Spiritual Storm. (Shakes head sadly.) I didn't wanna zap anyone...but...but...must have battle opponent...must.
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frederick

He is so soft and squishy.
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Angelic

Has zapping started, and how do you use it?
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Jai

Welp, I guess I'll get to zapping...once I clear out my inventory and remove my minions.
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Shuck

The folks on the Battle Chat thread have figured out that it's definitely getting a chibi zap after a certain number of consecutive zaps. Has to be regular zaps not the pay-for-experiment option, does NOT have to all be on the same pet, and we haven't pinned down the number of zaps yet (but more than three). Amber also hinted that if it doesn't happen after x number of zaps it'll force the unlock, we don't yet know if that means a guaranteed chibi zap or if Euclid will just challenge you to make you go away and stop bothering him (probably the latter).
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Horror

I had no idea what's going on, but as somebody who uses the zapper several times a day, I just got him as a challenger last night.
this is my zap
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StarShadow

I find it hard to believe that it would be zapping a specific pet/color since the zaps are random because then a lot of people would never get it.
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Inari

If those sticker and plushie are hints, then maybe it's
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chookie

Well poop looks like he's too strong for me by a long shot xc I guess he's right, I will have to be patient for the wig XD
He was adorbs as a wyllop though aww!
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gitto

Well I’ve just adopted a blob and made it chibi and zapped it but to no avail ahah
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Pandoria

You've found a Hidden Opponent!
For those wondering
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Petcollector

@Draken Thanks! That gets rid of that theory. LOL
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Draken

@Its_Just_Me unless its random with one of those colors I can say I didnt get it when my new pets first zap was a blacklight chelon
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Petcollector

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Petcollector

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Jestro

@Caterpillar thank you!! i knew it was a thing that happened but never saw it lol he was cute
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Caterpillar

Whoops
Wyllop Euclid Sticker
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Caterpillar

@RoyalPrincessPrince I don't know if there's official full art of that form, but there's two items of it

Chibi Euclid Plushie

Item not found: wyllop euclid stickerl
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FCoD

My pets are the color I want them so no challenger for me.
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Jestro

does anyone have a pic of his willop form???
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Nayru

@Caterpillar fair! i had actually totally blanked on that piece of lore, though point still stands-- he lost it somewhere between human-wallop-human
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Caterpillar

@Nayru He used to be a human being before Ian accidentally turned him into a Wyllop, and it took him years to get his human form back
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Nayru

@Caitlin he hasnt always been human-- if you didnt get to do the wizard-rift story and learn about how the site used to be you should check it out!
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starfish

@Laurey thank you, yes that's probably true now that you mention it, especially if you need a specific zap result it could take quite a while!

@Evil thank you for the stats, gotta keep up my training I still have trouble with the Impossibles
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Evil

Battle Stats - Euclid
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Laurey

@starfish
I think the patience part just refers to having to zap multiple times to get a specific result or something. I've zapped a pet with a complete pumpkin collection and nothing happened.
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starfish

Shoot, if that was supposed to be marked a spoiler could a mod please edit for me? Sorry ?
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starfish

This may have already been mentioned if so I apologize, but the way he says patience is needed, along with reference to morostide, made me think that we have to wait until it starts to fight him, but someone has fought him already so maybe it's something like having a complete Jack o lantern collection? My collection is complete but I don't have a zap pet to try. If I ever decide on an available pet name, I'll add one.
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Mythology

Dangit, I'm in the same boat, I can't zap any of my existing pets, they're all the colors they're supposed to be...
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Laurey

@Chinchilla
At least one person has unlocked him, so it's not that.

It does at least have to do with using the zapper though, based on an official hint from staff (which was just "zap zap zap"). It may also have something to do with chibi pets since we know he doesn't like those, but there still isn't an exact solution worked out yet.
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Chinchilla

Idea of mine
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Separatist

I would feel bad fighting him. Why do we always have a change to kick NPC butts. XD
Love it anyway! Euclid is my fav of them all. (only if i can unlock him)
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AeriaLure

This is a reminder to keep on topic and not attack other users. Continuing will result in community guideline resets and news comments bans.
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Caitlin

Not to interrupt this thrilling argument, but I have a pressing question. What happened to Euclid’s bellybutton? Did he lose it in a zapper experiment gone wrong? Was he grown in a lab? How do you explain this?
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Laurey

Lmao what the heck happened while I was sleeping
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Dawniefer

@Valiska
I didn't read or comprehend anything you said earlier. I now understand what you were saying. I apologize. ;)
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demon

@Dawniefer just stop, seriously.
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raul

two cents
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Chocolate

:expressionless:

My Zaps
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demon

can we please have one news post that doesn devolve into arguments. please.
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AlexLaurence

euclid is very cute ngl! (i’m a gay dude dw)
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Sneaky

I don't have a zapper pet so I'll only want to unlock him if his stats are something my battle pet stands a chance against, which they probably aren't.

I don't think we've had any challengers you have to unlock by wearing a certain type of item or more yet this year? Maybe you have to use the zapper while doing that?
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spiralgalaxis

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@chookie good luck!
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chookie

nada
also, hai
Tachikoma
^^ i'm so excited about my new family member~ (why didn't i think of this sooner!!)
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chookie

@spiralgalaxis
thanks that's helpful! i think i knew about most of those, so i guess the results are a lot like what i used to get from the *mumblesneopets* AHEM other zapper i used to use a lot XD
i think i just had the perfect idea for a labrat/future experiment pet so ahh new pet time wheeee ^^
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spiralgalaxis

@chookie Not a full guide, but here's a few things that have happened when I used it:

- changed pet to a different colour or species (not always an experiment). It usually changes either the colour or the species, not both at the same time
- has fully fed a pet, or made them really REALLY happy (20/10 happiness)
- the zapped pet's minion or unlocked stuff in your inventory can get turned into dust, slime or a cube.
- turning the zapped pet's minion into a completely different minion
- one time, it changed the pet's gender
- nothing at all
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chookie

i guess i gotta brush up on my zapper knowledge...is there a guide anywhere that lists possible happenings if/when i zap a pet? i've had a quick look on SL but wouldn't know which forum topic to start looking in here...and i'll also be waiting to see what the trigger is as i don't have a labrat pet either. i've only ever used the human zapper, although there's a couple of cute experiment pets so i'll probably get a labrat at some point, maybe sooner rather than later if i do for sure need to zap a pet for the trigger...
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Camilla

Well, since I'm not willing to zap any of my 101 pets (they're all what they're supposed to be) I guess I'll just have to hope that the sticker's gonna be somewhat affordable at some point. I'm glad that I don't care about the wig at all XD
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Valiska

@Spyro That "fetishisation" thing is not what I was getting at. The vast majority of people I know that are into yaoi or slash are not straight. There's a lot of bi/pansexual women, lesbians, trans/nb people of all flavours, and even some gay/bi/pan men that are into it. You're assuming that the women who are talking about how hot Euclid or Ian or Jaxon are straight, but I assure you that I'm not and I wouldn't assume about any of the other ladies here (assuming they're even all ladies). I'm pan.

I also don't think you can compare "fetishisation" of fictional characters with the way many straight cis men feel free to hit on women in same-sex relationships and proposition them for threesomes even if they hardly know them. Some slash fans are obnoxious, but it's not nearly as high as the percentage of straight men who will say to your face, "That's fine, Invite her along!" when you say, "Excuse me, I'm on a date with Lisa, you know, the girl who's sitting right next to me?"

I mean if you're into the opposite sex, sure, two is twice as much fun as one, but either that stays in your own head or you get on a dating site where you can specifically find people that want to do that, don't disrespect people who are just trying to go out and have fun with their SO.

Euclid and Ian and Jaxon are fictional and are not being harmed by anyone's fantasies.

Honestly, I was just asking if there was any canon about Euclid's sexuality. He is super cute and I would probably go out with him if he were real. I might even go out with him and another man, another woman, or an nb person. But you know, not in a gross hitting on strangers who are into each other and not you kinda way?
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Frankenchokies

Time, patience, pumpkins.
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Cordyceps_sapiens

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Julie

Congratulations!
You've just adopted Peppermint. the Blob!
Off I go to zap it.
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SaboKat

maybe zap a pet while wearing pumpkin patch/Asmodeus/Euclid items?
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Laurey

@jensen
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StarShadow

I don't have any pets that I can zap so guess I'll wait until the trigger is confirmed.
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Foghawk

didn't work
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Julie

I guess my 20th pet will be my zapper pet.
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jensen

@Sincere judging from the text he gives and his loot, i really don't think it's random! but who knows :U
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Sincere

@jensen

I'm guessing it may be randomly triggered. Just keep zapping I guess!
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smilesnz

@jensen awww I was hoping no zap lol humm I might have to use my pet Paislie for the zapping and by another Chibi potion. Thanks for the info.
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jensen

@smilesnz
i hate to be the bearer of bad news
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smilesnz

I hope we don't have to zap a pet as I don't have any pets I want to zap or room to get a pet to zap
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elka

@Threnody

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LizBlackDog

I'm so glad I already have a zapper pet.
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Amber

it's not specifically zap pet three times in a row
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Georgie

@feminist I tried that, no go.
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Threnody

Not sure, but given Amber's hint ("zap zap zap") ... and the reference Euclid makes to patience ...

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Spyro

@Valiska You have a great point, Euclid's sexuality has never been discussed, has it? Also, the fetishization of gay men by straight women from earlier is a little concerning to me. I doubt I would want a best friend like that myself.

@Frankenchokies That's technically true since it should say "Asmodumbest and his boyfriend dominate Morostide as if they own it."
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Jovi

@feminist
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Valiska

@Dawniefer do we actually know for sure that Euclid is gay?
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Squid

@Laurey
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feminist

has anyone tried zapping a pet that's already an experiment? (idk if this needs to be a spoiler sorry!)
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just2b

I LOVE the skins during morostide! Will I win a skin if I fight you?
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February30th

Your only abomination was calling them "Yaherra". Very Non-Euclidean...
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jensen

Quote by Amber:
zap zap zap

(hint)
time to designate a zapper pet y'all :U
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mmmh81

I was really hoping it was solved by now...dang
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Frankenchokies

@Spyro

If so, it's bad writing.
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Demmy

I think this is the longest I've seen it go unsolved. The staff must be all smug finally stumping people.
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Galadriel

Didn't work
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Caterpillar

He doesn't need a bellybutton, he was pretty much reborn as an Experiment when he used the zapper on himself. This man has a horrifying amount of power
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Spyro

@Ollie "They" was being used as a plural to refer to both Asmodeus and his boyfriend.
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Evil

ZZZZAP
Just Missed!
The zapper was pointed right at your inventory but couldn't find an item!

Nothing.
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Dawniefer

Euclid reminds me of the highly intelligent, geeky but sexy evil genius that every woman secretly dreams of being with at least once. But you can't because Euclid is more interested in men.. so he becomes your best friend instead. ;)
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Johnny_673

Thus guy needs a bellybutton
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Sneaky

@Ollie I think by "They" he means both of them as a couple.
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Ollie_612

wait since when does jaxon skelly use the pronoun "they"? where have i been???
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Rakumel

@shaunathedead I disagree XD Although now that I get a better look, he probably does need a new pencil.
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Delphi

Thus guy needs a shirt
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Lantern

Euclid I love you an your level of pettiness
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elka

hear me out!!
try this if you can and are willing
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Thespian

didn't work
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-HyperBlossom-

Wait!! Wait a second!! Trying to unlock Euclid for the next hidden opponent finds Moana instead. Yay?
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PeachGoblin

I don't really know a lot about these challenges, as I'm not a battler,
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Caterpillar

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Tried zapping with Invalid item tagSnapshot of a Kiss in my inventory, didn't work
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Laurey

@Squid
Which challenger is that you're thinking of?

And I'm not saying zapping isn't involved at all, just that I don't think they would have it rely on getting a specific outcome from the zapper. It could still be like zapping a pet while you have a certain item in your inventory or something like that.
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Sasuke

Maybe a Chibi Experiment
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Asmodeus

Oof, that stung, even if I wasn't the intended target.
But also that's hilarious. Just get your own boyfriend! Heck, just zap one into existence!
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HYPEBEAST

I know how you feel, Euclid XDD

Anyway I hope it's not a random thing!
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Squid

@Laurey
Some things can still be semi random. There is a challenger who had two specific requirements, but meeting them still only gave you a chance of challenging him, so you had to repeat it.

Making it a random chance while zapping would be a great token sink js
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Evil

Stumped
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homestuck

"Asmodumbest" lol

im sorry i dont know how to to use those hidden things (tags?), its not an spoiler btw, just an idea!!
... can anyone try visiting him with a super cute skin, like (even if its not his doing) the lovebug skin? i mean, he is a v salty boii after all
or sending him something cute like a heart item idk?
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Laurey

I don't think it's anything that would have random chance involved. All of the other solutions have been doing a specific thing. I think requiring a specific outcome from zapping would be too much randomness and could take forever for some people to unlock him if that's the case.

Every other solution we've had for these challengers have been something that anyone can easily do if you have the right item or go to the right place, etc.
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Caterpillar

Maybe I've spoken about this before, but I love how his hair follows the Nuclear color scheme. Ian invented Nuclear Potion.
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Sincere

I wonder if he is an impossible level challenger or a weak one you can never tell!

Hint please.
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Tribunal

Tried (nada)

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spiralgalaxis

Just zapped my wyllop. Didn't unlock Euclid, but I do have a storm wyllop now :D
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Sneaky

Has anyone tried doing anything with any Wyllop-related items? Although I think from what he said that you do have to use the zapper, maybe you have to use it multiple times somehow? Maybe you have to keep using it until it zaps an item, and it has to be a specific type of item? So it's based mostly on luck?

I mean, last year we had a challenger you had to unlock by visiting their shop multiple days in a row, so...
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Rakumel

Aww, Euclid. I ain't gonna fight you (unless I get bored). You made Yaherras available to everyone. That alone makes you super awesome in my book <3
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Holden

I'm guessing from his last line that it's
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Avel

I am also just hoping that this one in overly cryptic.
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Karasu

Talking of things, why does Euclid not have an entry in the subetapedia? Jw
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jensen

@Sopheroo it’s not that, i just tried x: gotta remember to buy an elixir in the morning now, haha
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Caterpillar

God I'm so glad we got him as a Friendly Challenger, Euclid is the best boy
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Immortal

It's okay Euclid, you'll find true love one day <3
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Muerte

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chookie

hah "Asmodumbest" XD Gosh Euclid i am at work i can NOT be laughing out loud right now...
looking forward to your new zapper skins though :heart: human zapper ftw!
(i got no clues for unlocking him as yet)
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spiralgalaxis

hey bro *gives him a blueberry*

the thing I'm looking forward to most about morostide is getting zapper skins
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wraith

I swam to jam if we end up needing to play matchmaker for this whiney baby to find him a spooky boyfriend as well so he stops being bitter about being single, then you can count me in.
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Sneaky

@Clovis You'll know who he is very soon, when Morostide starts ...

@Avel @Atomic Same, I feel like I'm betraying them when I use the zapper to get the new skins (Since I don't really use it for pets). Also I was kind of hoping for Ian to be the Darkside challenger because I thouht he might want to learn to defend himself after what happened last year, but with Morostide getting closer I felt like he would be too busy for that. Well, maybe they'll still do the Friendly challengers next year, who knows? I do hope the creature that attacked him comes back as a challenger this Morostide, though, so I can get revenge on it for making me worry so much X)
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Quark

Nope
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Marlboro

Maybe to try adopt a blob while the pet slots are full?
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GLaDOS

Zapping/having in inventory something related to Asmodeus maybe? That might make him mad enough to fight. Not sure what though
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elka

Ah well, what @Azzie said didn't work ;A;

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jensen

@Azzie
nope
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Sopheroo

Did anyone try zapping a Chibi pet? Probably, right?
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Synth

Euclid, I love ya man, but you did NOT just say that about Ian. I didn't come here wanting to fight you, but it looks like we are gonna fight.
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jensen

didn't work
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elka

Mmh ok thanks @Darkrai ! Might have to be what Azzie said :O
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Darkrai

@elka Didn't work :c
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Avel

I'm sorry, Euclid, but I do happen to like them a bit better than you.
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Azzie

Has anyone tried (I'm not gonna because I don't battle)
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elka

@Abel i thnink it's because i erm... *clicked something* if you know what i'm sayin'... maybe i shouldn't have, someone try it without that extra bit, maybe......
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Clovis

@Tomorrow @Peppermint thanks. I had no idea Asmodeus had a partner. I don't really know who Jaxon is yet but I guess I'll find out soon enough, haha.
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EmilyMae

I really hope we don't have to zap a pet!
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demon

@elka it might actually be a patience thing, an amount of zaps, as indicated in his words..
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Azzie

I'm dying over Asmodumbest. XD

It's okay Euclid we love your zappies. ♡
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jensen

here is a link to your local whiny baby, please bring him many cute things to make him feel less grumpy

... that is not a spoiler, i do not know the unlock method, we all just know he... appreciates cute things very much :)
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Nerds

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Tomorrow

@Clovis
Ian Asmodeus and Jaxon Skelly are together.
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Peppermint

@Clovis Ian Asmodeus and his BF Jaxon Skelly who owns the pumpkin patch.
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Julie

A little bitter...
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Aline

It's okay Euclid, I'm sure you'll find a good boyfriend yourself. No need to be so jealous.
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Darkrai

10/10 best scientist
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Clovis

Who's Asmodumbest and what does he mean by their boyfriend dominates Morostide? Who's the boyfriend??
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SolusAurora

This is your year Euclid!
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Isilven

"But I think you're just mad cause you're single" -Garnet
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Karasu

Oh snap somebody jelly
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elka

also... "You have 1 hour 59 minutes 32 seconds remaining before you can use the zapper again!" FUUUUU

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demon

someones jeeeaaalous
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elka

"asmodumbest"... SAVAGE
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