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New Achievement for New Wardrobe

Extra Outfits Wardrobe
1 Week Gold Account Medal
A fancy new wardrobe is ready for you to test! Check it out for fun and profit ;)

Programmer note: We are aware of the lag and issues, and recommend using the new wardrobe as much as possible to reduce the load on the servers!
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Jenni

The achievement doesn't unlock for me. :c
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YaoiObsessedFangirl

Where to report wardrobe issues?
Saved Outfits aren't working when i press the "Try on" button.
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o0SnowyOwl0o

Link is here ---------> Wardrobe: Deleted Items
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o0SnowyOwl0o

Just in case not everyone is able to access the forums, check your wardrobes for any missing CWs, Cash shop items, and regular items. A glitch in the recent wardrobe has caused some things to be deleted...
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cupid

normally i'm not one to gripe, but uhh implementing a new, already unfinished wardrobe during a huge HA based site event while the site has already been struggling during holidays might not have been the smartest move? :/ my wardrobe has been extremely buggy since all of this, and the old one doesnt even work at all as a fallback. now today the new wardrobe doesnt work for me period? sigh
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Tinkerbabe

It was working for me on the 25th but today (3/26), I cannot get it to work at all. :(
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Silvermare22

Beta Wardrobe is only loading X's when i am lucky enough to get that much. I hate having a half of a avatar made. Wish they wern't doing this new wardrobe during a dress up event.
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ThePizza

All of my items are now showing up as broken. Cant see them :\
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Hosui

Every single item, plus the actual avatar is a broken image for me. Only thing that shows up are the skins. Also, I can't submit this as a bug as the link just brings me back to the wardrobe main page. ( Kinda hate the green scheme going on, too, as it reminds me of old myspace layouts, but that's not a big deal really. ) But, I appreciate you all trying to optimise it for us. Hope it can get worked out soon.
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PhoenixRose

:/ Outside of my current avatar, the layering section, the skins, and the saved outfits, every single item in my wardrobe is not there and a lot of my stuff is showing up as missing (such as stuff in the face and feet layer).
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hungarian-dancer

I cannot clothe my avatar! this is ... not great.
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gh0stb0ts

im sure staff is aware of the issues already/i know they're working on it but i cant load a n y items in either wardrobe right now rip,,, i just want to design my masquerade outfit for this year : ( implementing a new experimental wardrobe system during... an event where a lot of people are going to need wardrobe access..... may not have been the most opportune timing,

[stares wistfully out the window] I wanna be... where the people are....
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Subducting

Ooooh are we gonna get colour sorting back???
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TaintedTamer

My avatar just...straight up won't show up anymore and I don't know why. I've used the new wardrobe and it looks fine and then isn't? I just want to see my avatar again. ;-;
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Lexiana

Thank you for the freebie Gold Account :) Overall things look nice, but I did add a few comments to the feedback post in the forums. Overall, I like this better.
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gitto

Eugh Jesus gross.

Hate it, stop changing things!! You get used to a new wardrobe and then you go make another new one? That looks awful? Please change it back
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Truffula

@Brinny I think that's so, but Keith said they weren't enforcing that limit yet and that the legacy outfits wouldn't count, so ... maybe it's a bug?
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Brinny

@Truffula

Ohh i wonder if you cant see the button because you have over 500 (the limit) outfits saved.
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Truffula



No create button... Thank you so much for the image, @Brinny, now I know how it's supposed to look.
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StarShadow

How do I go back to the old wardrobe. I can't do anything with this new one, can't put anything into drawers, etc. Yuck.
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topizots

I don't like how the avatar is stationary. When I scroll down to the bottom of my items worn list, you can't see the human avatar when you un click an item, it's SUPER inconvenient and bothersome having to scroll up each time.

Also, the wear button should be up higher.
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StarShadow

@Gunnarr
Yeah I've tried that, thanks. I still can't figure out how to put an item into a drawer. There seriously needs to be a post in the forums somewhere with a full set of instructions on how to use this. The "drawers here" is just useless and getting really annoying.
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Otachi

Um, is there going to be a Sort by Alphabetic order option added soon?
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bipolarness

TY for the week of upgrade. <3
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Rakumel

Gods, why, WHY are we rolling out a new wardrobe at the same time as Masq??! Every time, every SINGLE time y'all try to fix something or add a new feature around a holiday, it NEVER goes well. Why in the absolute fuck are y'all still doing things this way?? Why? If I hadn't already had some outfits with masks saved from the previous wardrobe, I'd be sitting out this event too, because apparently you can't put together an outfit from scratch in the new wardrobe and wear it (it's just stuck loading). I came here to have fun, I don't have time to figure out what the hell's going on with it. No tutorial? No news post or forum post explaining how you do things differently from the old wardrobe? I mean sure, I could experiment and find out for myself IF THE DAMN WARDROBE WORKED.

I'm sorry, I know I'm rambling and saying things out of anger and frustration, but at this point, as often as this has happened, this is unacceptable.
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Lovely

When I first used the new wardrobe there was a link for reporting bugs that I am no longer seeing. if someone has that link can you please comment me with it?
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Tribunal

The "report bugs here" link just reloads the wardrobe.

Left foot turns off my whole HA (along with my left foot).
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Gunnarr

@StarShadow
To see items that aren't in drawers, click on that blank line above the drawer names in the drop down box. Same thing to see 'all' layers.

And if you select a layer or drawer and can't see any items, click on the page number. For some reason I can't see my items until I do that, especially if it's only 1 or 2 pages in the category.
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Makani

My left arm (right arm as you look at the avatar) is missing and that makes my whole HA into a broken image.
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hannahharmin

Wait a minute...I see Luminaire Tree ornaments in my wardrobe....Are we gonna be able to wear them too??? 0v0
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Silvermare22

Having problems removing items from my HA's head that I dont want there. I click them off. hit save, and there still there ?
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Monologue

Hmmm I managed to put on a mask but the first mask I tried was from the held layer and would not save onto my HA.
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StarShadow

Still can't figure out the Organize section. I'm trying to look up a few items that are not in drawers and put them in drawers but can't figure out how since there is no "none" option in the drawer list and no place to select a drawer to put items in to, it just says "drawers here". Has this not been finished yet? There needs to be an instructions post somewhere.
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Blake

@Jasper
The new wardrobe isn't even remotely phone friendly. You can't even see the HA next to the layers because the layers take up the whole screen and push it down.
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TaintedTamer

@frafty Ah, thank you! Now my avatar doesn't want to appear at all, but I'll keep poking at the new wardrobe. <3 I think I tried clicking it earlier, but probably didn't wait long enough for it to do anything.
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frafty

@TaintedTamer Click in the skin again to remove it in the new wardrobe.
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TaintedTamer

I can't take off my skin, help ;A; The old wardrobe just won't let me, but the new one doesn't even have an option to remove the skin.
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ennui

@Solsticesprite ah, makes sense that t here'd be lag on that end as well with masq going on! i think it took 10-15 minutes in the end, so nothing major. just have to be patient! :V
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Solsticesprite

@ennui when this version of Wardrobe was in Beta, new items showed up instantly and with no delay. This is what I would expect if Masque was not happening right now. Since it is happening, I have no idea.
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BoaConstrictor

Update:
While I'm still wearing a mask on the HA on boards and it first worked after having loaded the new wardrobe again this morning, now, 8 minutes later, I can't dance anymore, because I lost my mask...

And just noticed, my current (has been for a few months) HA is not among the saved ones... (only 17 anyway)

Trying to put it on again, click the "WEAR" button, because there still is no "SAVE" button and hope it works.
So new rule: Once the wardrobe accepts your mask, don't go back to the wardrobe, no matter, what your HA looks like, just accept it and be happy it granted you the honour of wearing a mask.
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BoaConstrictor

lol, when I return to the wardrobe, my former changes are gone from the worn items, including no mask appearing among them. This is truly driving me nuts.
The old wardrobe is not loading anything unfortunately.
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Pinocchio

Hooboy, new wardrobes just aren't a surprise for me anymore xD

I see the word Color but nothing linked to it, but I hope that's the placeholder for a sort-by-color deal to make an appearance. I always found that kind of system useful when it came to color-coordinating my outfit pieces.
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BoaConstrictor

The button this morning still says "wear" and not save. However, the most recent avatars loaded - of course I didn't touch them, reminiscent of comments here. The old outfits, that never became visible in the former version are not here, either.

And still no change on try #5 - the hidden items are not hidden.
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Inari

Have played around a bit with this new wardrobe now and I'm afraid I have downsize on my saved outfits (apparently I had more than the allowed 250 - how did I even got so many?).
So far everything works fine, I've only got one question: How did the ornaments for our Lumi trees end up in this new wardrobe? '^^
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ennui

quick q: how long is it supposed to take for items to appear in the new wardrobe after being moved there? i've been waiting quite a white and can't see any of the items i've moved. no big deal; i just have a nice masq outfit i'd like to wear c:
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Rebane

Mobile user, only played around a little bit but:
1] hitting X on an item doesn't remove it just puts it on top. Can clear whole outfit or have to find that item in wardrobe to remove.
2] the preview and my avatar jump from top right to right above items list after adding new item onto avatar.
3] the preview covers 80% of my avatar so I can't actually see what I'm doing.

That's it so far. Not being able to actually SEE what I'm doing is annoying so I just stopped at what I had. I used a guess at how it looked and left it at that. Other then that its faster loading! So yay there!
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Solsticesprite

@Clovis that item only worked on Wardrobes 1 and 2. You had three saves if you were a regular user, and five if you were a GA user. You were allowed to buy five of those for a total of eight and ten. They were never popular, although I seriously loved mine. I also was one of the users who was seriously addicted to Ooh La Layers.

Wardrobe v3, the one we just had technically had a limit on how many saves you could do, but it was never enforced so that item became useless and was retired. I think those of us who had them were reimbursed some CSC or something?
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Thaliel

clicking on "report any bugs here" only makes the wardrobe reload
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Gypsi

How do we save outfits now? Can we have the "none" option back for items that aren't in drawers yet? How do we organize in drawers now? (When I click organize I get no drawer options.)
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Jasper

I'm sorry but this design... it's not intuitive at all. While it is faster, if I need to refresh and scroll all the way back down, I'd much rather wait on the old one to load. It's far too long, requires too much scrolling, often needs refreshes, fails to load and the save button is in a bad place. It is much more cellphone friendly than PC friendly. I use chrome on my phone and firefox on my PC. It does function but, oof, this feels like an alpha build.
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StarShadow

Is this still being worked on? I don't see an option to remove a skin or to organize items. When I clicked organize it just brings up a list of items. There is no "none" option in drawer to find items that aren't in a drawer and when I want to put items in a drawer I see no way to do that. It just says "drawers here". Seriously, what?
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skydreamer

@extremist I was told you just click the image again to get the skin off.
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Diedrich

I meant to say 'won't load'. oof
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skydreamer

Also, for those a little upset this is being done during an event... It seems like there is some event or another going on all the time. I would think it would be difficult Not to do it during an event. :\ And if the wardrobe is what's causing a lot of lag, doesn't it make sense to fix it for the event that you change your avi the Most for? (at least I do) I realize there are those that would have wanted this done before it started, but ...I'm just happy it's being worked so hard on to get it up and running quickly.
Thank you to all staff working on this and those keeping the other stuff running smoothly while they do! :)
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extremist

Could someone tell me how to remove my survival skin please. I have tried a few things but to no avail. Am I missing something?
I would really like to enjoy Masquerade now.
Thank you
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skydreamer

:) Thank you for the medal! <3
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Bren

Okay- been playing around in the New Beta Wardrobe on and off today into this evening when it would let me. These are a couple of things that have come to my notice:
*When you’re in the ‘Item’ section (and trying to remove individual items): when you click on the red x it jumps to the top. Sometimes it takes several clicks (as little as 2; as many as 10) to remove the item.
*In the outfits section: can we please have both the ‘save’ and ‘wear’ buttons back? My reasoning is that with lag and other wardrobe loading issues it’s nice to be able to ‘save’ an incomplete HA without it going live on Subeta. I cannot count the number of times I have been in the middle of building an HA, had to take a call, and the page has refreshed clearing my items so now I save frequently. When I’m building an item heavy avatar I often save several times before I complete it... then I go back in and delete the ones I don’t want later. With only the wear button I cannot do that anymore.
*When you click into the first Wardrobe screen: the “ Beta Wardrobe- This is a work in progress! Please report any bugs here.” Only links back to the same page with the same message. I would have posted this info into a thread if I could have found it. :)
I can see the potential of this new wardrobe so I am looking forward to it running smoothly eventually. Just FYI I was using both Chrome and Safari on my iPad today. Thanks!
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Raspberry

Nothing is even loading for me :/
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Reishi

thank you
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Diedrich

Everytime I 'Try On' one of my outfits, it would load so I can alter it or wear it. Am I doing this wrong?
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YaoiObsessedFangirl

Definitely loving the layering feature with the salon hairs. <3
That's gonna be so much fun to play around with once the wardrobe is being nicer.
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pierce

is the limb toggling not transparent? or am i doing something wrong?
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Lovely

I will add that deleting my (no longer needed) saved outfits has never been faster! =D
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grouse

Quote:
Booting up Subeta, fetching all of your user details...
=( Not working for me on Firefox or Chrome.
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Its_Just_Me

Sorry, but this was NOT the day to do this. But I should be used to it after 14 years! :(
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Lovely

LOVING the ability to layer salon hairs. Preferring the drop-downs for sort by, CW options, and item visibility. Still wishing the visibility had an unowned option so we could see JUST what we do not have yet. I think a wishlist view would also be amazing but that's if you want to go above and beyond. I know it isn't finished yet though. There was also a lot of talk in the forums about possibly saving hair color pallets like we save outfits? Anywho... super exciting stuff going on! =)
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Stiles

Wait we were able to name our saved outfits before
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Clovis

Wait -- what does
Extra Outfits Wardrobe
do? How many outfits can you save normally?
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Stiles

Still getting double images and lag but thank you for the gold account that's pretty awesome ❤
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StarShadow

So we can't name our saved outfits any more? That made it easier to find the one I needed quickly instead of looking through a bunch. Darn.
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Nanaki

Neither wardrobe is loading my items, so it looks like I have to wait to participate in Masq :(
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Reaper

Napped for several hours, came back....and I still can't get my items to load so I can put on a mask and participate. Not on Firefox, not on Chrome. It will start to load them and then conk out if I try to sort by anything (say....hiding cws, searching for a mask, etc) =/
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lovecraft

Probably trying on my phone not best. I can get it to load, but cant seem to get items removed from my current HA. Also the preview HA is almost directly in front of my HA so not very helpful
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henani123

Cool!!
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Ringo

Hasn't loaded for me since it was released. I'm just letting it stay up and see if anything magic happens.
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ShesUniique

not impressed :?
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Valiska

We need to separate "wear" and "save", @Keith, and this is not the first time I've said so.

I don't want to wear the outfits I make for HA contests. Some of the contests require that you not use an outfit you've previously worn or are currently wearing.
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CRONE

Oooh, i'm all levels of excited about the new limb toggling feature. This opens up a whole new world for wearables.
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operationivy

New wardrobe will not load for me at all and I tried several times.
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Kevin

Newest*
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Alcremie

A new wardrobe comes once every few years. I get it though, it constantly needs to be rehauled and updated.
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ohwellheythere65

I clicked wear and it didn't change my avi despite it saying it updated. Blah.
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Rogue

Where can we see our total items in wardrobe count?
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Brinny

@Truffula sorry I pooffed for RL stuff..

Here is what I see

Spoiler (click here to toggle)
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Rogue

I can't get either the new or the old wardrobe to load :( Which means I can't dance because I don't have a mask on...
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ohwellheythere65

I do like the idea of being able to toggle off body parts, though. It reminds me of an avi idea I had a few days ago but couldn't make work.
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Crow

are the extra different colors in the salon besides the base 3 gone on purpose (and coming back eventually once something is fixed i hope?) or is that a bug? My favorite thing about the wardrobe has always been the salon and messing with all the different hair options.
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Atomic

Neither the old nor the new wardrobe work for me now and I've been messing with it for hours. Items/skins/base options don't load, saved outfits rarely load (and when they do, the "Try on" button does absolutely nothing). Literally the only thing I can do in the new wardrobe is remove items I'm already wearing, and even that is difficult. The first time I click the red X to remove an item, it simply moves it to the top of the list. It takes several more clicks to actually yeet the thing off my avatar. I understand that the beginning of events is always rocky on Subeta and I'm really trying to have patience, but I feel like this particular issue could have been avoided by not rolling out a buggy new wardrobe during a wardrobe-centric event...
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ohwellheythere65

Also, why is "wear" under ALL the items the avi is wearing instead of under the avi like it should be? Why must we scroll to wear on site? The old idea of the buttons being under the avi made way more sense.
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Targaryen

Awesome! Thank you Subeta! That was fun.
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Xezvi

@Hooligans87 @beinagrind
Hello invisible friends! The wardrobe ate me too :x
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Faizh

I can't wait for the entire new site.
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cupid

@mei i think that's exactly the idea!! I remember seeing a spoiler for it on the official twitter :eyes:
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mei

does this new ha base mean we'll be able to control the body part layering? i've noticed the right shoulder at least seems to be its own image and the hand is now hidden behind the ha... 0:
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Pseudonym

Finally got to change real quick. This is a really bad time to change stuff like this, during events.
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Truffula

@Brinny I can't seem to find the create outfit button at all on the outfits page...
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Pseudonym

STILL CAN'T CHANGE SO I CAN WEAR A FREAKING MASK
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Astra

Woohoo, new and improved wardrobe! And a GA medal to boot, WOWZA.
Thank you staff, you're the best. Hope you're all doing OK.
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Hooligans87

I used the new wardrobe and now my avvie won't load. :(
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Brinny

Can't seem to try on an outfit that I created.

also...If anyone didn't notice..on the outfits screen there is a "create outfit" button. This seems to save the HA you were working on to your outfits!
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Andraste

Quote by @Keith:

@Andraste Oh no, I didn't see a report for that anywhere :cry: I just pushed out a fix to make the button red (It had white text and was supposed to be red but the CSS wasn't loading correctly). There isn't a good way to get those outfits back, but I can prevent that going forward by making them soft delete.

I'm really sorry that happened to you :cry:
@Keith
It is alright, I kinda figured they were gone forever. :( I'll try remaking them. I have been having a lot less issues since you pushed these fixes though and I greatly appreciate you making it so that button is now visible. Thank you so much for doing that, as I wasn't the only one having this issue. I did post about it in the feedback thread but I am so glad it is working correctly now! :*
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SykoLolli

i know you guys are trying your hardest, i know. But...this is super sadface making. Bleh. Will continue to wait.

At least the little bouncy face is cute.
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jersey

Not loading for me. Will try later.
Just hanging on:

Quote:
Loading!
Booting up Subeta, fetching all of your user details...
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ThePizza

Won't load ;-;
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PiinkSparkles

this also pops up when I try to use the link

An error occurred with this application.
This is an error with the application itself, not the platform.
502: BAD_GATEWAY
Code: NO_STATUS_CODE_FROM_FUNCTION
ID: oma1:xwz7j-1585087857300-4f5259f1faa8

If you are a visitor, contact the website owner or try again later.
If you are the owner, check the logs for the application error.
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PiinkSparkles

@Keith it's stuck on fetching all of your user details

is this why the site has been so laggy?
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Laurey

@Keith
The item counter only started going down after I viewed the new wardrobe though, and that was after the organize tab had already been added in.

I don't know what happened either, but if it's not related to the new wardrobe I don't know what else it could have been.
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Keith

@Laurey I let the UA involved know that I don't think it ate any of your items -- up until yesterday when I put in the organize tab, the wardrobe didn't touch any code capable of removing items from the wardrobe table :( I'm not sure what happened to your items, but I don't think it was the wardrobe

And - I'm pushing this right now because the current wardrobe is one of the primary causes of lag on the site :)
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Bug

@Cream Thanks for bringing that up. Indeed it wasn't working as intended. I've just deployed a fix!
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Keith

On the outfits tab, you should see all of your outfits there!
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Raven

@Keith but where are all the saved HAs? I can't see them -tries not to panic-
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Laurey

I was told not to use the new wardrobe until I get another response on my ticket about it possibly eating some of my items.

Also still think y'all should have waited until there wasn't an event going on to do this...
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far

Is this still in beta mode? Because I can see a lot of issues.
I hope it goes back to a more neutral layout/colour.

Let's stay positive!
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qarakuzi

there are some items in the wardrobe that aren't wearable? for example all the Masked Lovebird Plushies (not wearable as far as I know, plus an broken image pops up when you try to wear it)
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Keith

@Tundra The colors are going to change (and they'll be customizable). This is part of a much larger project and will have those customizations involved!
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Tundra

too much green for me, tbh. it'd be nice if there was an option to change those colors (or is there some custom css somewhere that will??)
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Cream

This isn't wardrobe related so I apologize but what happened to having the full version of the shoutbox open during the holiday?
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Haswari

Ugh at having the save at the bottom of your current wearables... If there were a way to scroll down through the list it would be fine, but for now to scroll towards the bottom I have to drag an item down, then put it back in place because of the layering. It sucks when you have more than just a couple of items on your avatar.
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Frenchi

oh... okay... can we please not have separate scrolling boxes within a page that already scrolls? not really a sensible way to navigate a page.
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Frenchi

um... well i would gladly do this if there were actually a "wear" button...
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Varsna

for anyone as lost as i was, the save button is at the bottom of your worn items list on the left!:

i went in hot wearing 30-some items so there was....unfortunately no indication it was down there for me wguiwhg
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beinagrind

did you thin out the base's lines or am i going blind
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Haswari

No save or wear button for me either...?
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DeimosAlexein

I had the items tab load ONCE. Now it's like "Hurr de durr."
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Luck

Thanks! It deleted my salon hair and left me bald. :disappointed: *wears GA medal from achievement as a wig*
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BoaConstrictor

I've asked about the wear vs. save several times.
I liked the differenciation a lot. I save a few avatars, but if I change just one thing or another (for events ect., like putting on a mask), I don't want to clutter my saved avatars with another copy. It's been a mess for a while anyhow, since the original avatars were meant to be transferred, but never were.

And this one is not loading (completely), either. Also refused to accept some of my changes 4 times.

Also, why didn't you change the link to the new one?
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Avadasha

Nevermind it just took a few minutes ^w^
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Avadasha

Got it through and saved my HA, got the achievement but my HA didn’t update?
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Keith

@Andraste Oh no, I didn't see a report for that anywhere :( I just pushed out a fix to make the button red (It had white text and was supposed to be red but the CSS wasn't loading correctly). There isn't a good way to get those outfits back, but I can prevent that going forward by making them soft delete.

I'm really sorry that happened to you :(
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Fizz

It... does not want to load for me. I'll keep trying!
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Rabbit

I'm valiantly trying, but it's taking forever to load ;u;

Also, my current hair color isn't loading, even from the Outfits option, I hope I'm not doing something wrong bleh
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Lypsyl

If only the new wardrobe would load...or any wardrobe at all :(
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Dramatic

Yea I didn’t see the wear button either.
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Andraste

@Keith
Any way y'all can recover saved outfits we lost from that super awesome INVISIBLE delete button in the saved outfits part? You need a warning SOMEWHERE on wardrobe until it isn't invisible anymore. I lost 2 amazing ones because all I had was "wear" under the saved outfits and nothing else. Not even a try on.

I had to go to old wardrobe to be able to change my HA at all. :(
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DrJeff

This one won't load either :(
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Reaper

Also it took my recent changes off so I had to redo them (still trying to get items to load so I can put a mask back on and dance again whenever the site stops lagging out).
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ennui

the new wardrobe won't load for me (it gets stuck on "loading!"), but i'll definitely be using it once i can get it running! c:
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Reaper

It's not showing that we got the achievement but is granting the medal (check inventories folks) :)
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Keith

@hwellheythere65 The "wear" button under your avatar saves, I'll change the text so it's more clear i guess!
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Muerte

Gosh damnit, now it looks like my avatars thumb is up his ass.
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Mort

Stay strong! You seem to deal with site issues on every event, I really applaud you for your efforts.
Thanks for the new achievement, that's nice of you!
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ohwellheythere65

Yeah but where's the 'save' button?
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Keith

WHY??

The new wardrobe is super optimized to make queries that are automatically cached, and easy to digest on the front end. It's so much faster. Right now we're seeing the database back up with queries made by the "current" wardrobe (hundreds of them!) so shifting as many people as possible to the new wardrobe will help the site speeds a TON.
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