Trapped Minion Updates!



Thanks to some helpful users, I've been looking into a less-loved feature. The trapped minions. In the spirit of communication, here are some current and future changes.
Throughout May, you might notice the bubbles have a higher chance of popping. Before an hour ago, the chances for a bubble to pop and give you a minion was ridiculous at 1/100 chance. I'll adjust throughout May to find a good spot where it's not too common or rare for you to pop a bubble. Why?
In June, I'll adjust the code so you can get minions of rarities outside of 1-99 as well as 1-99! Those are the only rarities that will have the minion follow you home. There are a lot of cool minions outside of those rarities that we'd like you to have a chance at. That's why I'll first find that sweet spot for how often a trapped minion will be released to you. Don't want those super rare minions to become too common after all!
Edit:
To clarify some things: :star: June will mean you'll get some extra minion rarities in addition to 1-99 minions.
:star: We won't be adding cash shop minions as a potential prize (other plans for those friends)!
:star: We will be changing Major Drills for the next few days not to ask for you to feed trapped minions. This will go into effect at midnight on the 14th.
Posted by Amber
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@Amber Have you been able to collect enough data to make the necessary adjustments to Trapped Minions? I've been feeding minions regularly and I have not popped any minions over the rarity 99. As for feedback, I think the frequency of popping bubbles is fine for rarity 1-99. If higher rarity minions have been added to the "pop" pool, it may be a bit too rare as I have not popped one yet. If the rarer minions have not been added to the "pop" pool, then I would say the current frequency is probably too frequent for higher rarity minions. I'm not sure if you can modify the frequency based on rarity. I am a bit disappointed to learn that not all minions in the bubbles can be popped. I have been feeding them all this time (prior to these adjustments) with the understanding that any bubble could pop. If possible, removal of minions that can't be popped would be preferable to avoid confusion.

If someone is auto feeding then that should be looked into, but please don't make the cool down between feedings longer. Maybe have the fed minions clear a bit faster. If achievements are added for this, it's probably going to take feeding hundreds of minions to get them. A few months after the initial rush, it won't be so busy. Feeding the minions is fun, but waiting 30 seconds when no one else is around is going to be a bummer.

I got blocked over a user feeding JUST AS MANY (or more) minions as I was one night. Ridiculous. Minions only have a 5 second cooldown between feeding each one, so feeding a whole row within 30 seconds IS possible, it doesn't mean someone is "cheating". Something needs to be changed about them, because not everyone has the same ability to do them as fast as others.
Would it ever be a possibility to make them appear to only yourself? Even if it meant we could only do like 10 minions every 5 minutes or something?
I'm just tired of being bashed by others because they're doing the same thing and we all get on them at the same time..
Would it ever be a possibility to make them appear to only yourself? Even if it meant we could only do like 10 minions every 5 minutes or something?
I'm just tired of being bashed by others because they're doing the same thing and we all get on them at the same time..
@Nebet
I had also timed myself to feed all the minions and it took me 3min. I've seen users auto feed ALL the minions in 30 seconds. What's odd about it, is when there's a new wave to feed, the user in question waits about 30 seconds and then all the minions are fed. There's something wrong there.
I had also timed myself to feed all the minions and it took me 3min. I've seen users auto feed ALL the minions in 30 seconds. What's odd about it, is when there's a new wave to feed, the user in question waits about 30 seconds and then all the minions are fed. There's something wrong there.

I vote for feeding minions to be permanently be removed from Major Drills, so timer does not hinder doing his quest.
As always, Peace!

Wow! You managed to pop its protective bubble!

Amber
If you add achievements for popping, please please, make it retroactive. I know I have popped bubbles 2 or 3 times previously. Peace!

It looks like another row of minions were added?! Thanks, that's helpful. :)
Also, I just did an experiment where I timed how long it took to feed all the minions on the page on a speed run-I missed the last two before all the bubbles reset but it took me almost 4 minutes.
Also, I just did an experiment where I timed how long it took to feed all the minions on the page on a speed run-I missed the last two before all the bubbles reset but it took me almost 4 minutes.

I got this guy
earlier today, first one I popped since the change. Right now there are still so many minions over rarity 99, so not poppable yet. Hopefully things will get even more interesting in June!


Love this change, but I agree that having some kind of timer would make it feel more fair. Every time I try to feed a minion, someone else has already insta-fed almost the entire page :(
Has anyone else noticed that (it's always the same people) feed 30 minions in 1min or less? I'd like to know how that's possible when there's a 5 second timer per minion

"Wow! You managed to pop its protective bubble! Musical Note can't stay here anymore, so why not take it home with you?"
Wow, 1st time. Thanks. :D
Wow, 1st time. Thanks. :D
I've spent years on this site not even knowing the bubbles could pop and you could get a minion out of them. So I'm looking forward to this!

I hope there's a lot of Steampunk Snowman. I wanna fill one pet's treasure chest with them.




I just fed Distilled Rum to a Vetan Turtle, I feel like animal services would have a problem with that-

Update: Personal opinion, there DEFINITELY needs to be some kind of cool down timer for feeding them, I just watched someone rapid-fire feed a bunch of rare ones in like 20 seconds flat LOL. I think a cool down time of 30 seconds to a minute would be fair? That would certainly give others time to have a chance at the good ones.

Oh wow exciting news!
It’s been a while since I fed minions but I use to feed them a lot! 4,027 / 5,000
I have had bubbles pop for me when I did feed them but it was rare
It’s been a while since I fed minions but I use to feed them a lot! 4,027 / 5,000
I have had bubbles pop for me when I did feed them but it was rare

That's really cool! I'd pop in there sometimes and usually noone else was feeding them. I knew about the drop but figured it had to be really rare since I can't remember the last time I got one from it. Looking forward to more drops!








Super excited about this update!
Even with the 1/100 rate, I never had a bubble pop for me and I'm over 1k minions now lol. I wondered if it was a broken feature, tbh.
Even with the 1/100 rate, I never had a bubble pop for me and I'm over 1k minions now lol. I wondered if it was a broken feature, tbh.


Omg I love this! I haven't fed trapped minions a TON but I'll go through periods where I do a bunch of feedings. Hoping to get some cool minions from this now.



@Amber Thank you for the clarification. I thought that might be the case but I wasn't sure from the wording. The Cash Shop limit makes perfect sense to me and I look forward to see what minions need rescuing after June. :)

@Penemuel
You can hover your cursor over the food item the minion is thinking of (upper right corner of their image), and the hoverbox will tell you what the item name is. From there, you can also go straight to the shop search for that specific item! Doing it on a mobile/touch device is very fiddly, though. Possible, but fiddly.
You can hover your cursor over the food item the minion is thinking of (upper right corner of their image), and the hoverbox will tell you what the item name is. From there, you can also go straight to the shop search for that specific item! Doing it on a mobile/touch device is very fiddly, though. Possible, but fiddly.

You have fed 2400 minions!
I maybe got 2 or 3 Minions home with me, I was very unlucky. 1/100? It more felt like 1/1000.
I maybe got 2 or 3 Minions home with me, I was very unlucky. 1/100? It more felt like 1/1000.
A good idea to replace that Drills activity that got deleted would be putting some neglected games in his roster, such as Matlal's Jewels, Stealth Bomber, Caliph's Tomb and Memory. (Not Cybill Sledding, Burrero Bonanza or Street Team though, those are harmful if one's photosensitive)

I did ten. Total. Never saw a purpose for it and gave up. I never knew you could actually get one!
Now I don’t even remember HOW to feed them, because the items don’t seem to be named…? I feel really dumb right now.
Now I don’t even remember HOW to feed them, because the items don’t seem to be named…? I feel really dumb right now.

Omg…almost 15 years here and I don’t think I’ve ever gotten a minion despite my efforts! Cool to see the “that’s a thing?” features getting some love! 💖✨

[qoute="@Yuzu"]... I'm sorry, THE BUBBLES CAN POP AND GIVE YOU A MINION??? :scream:
I have been here for over a decade and I had NO IDEA that's something that could happen... 18 years here and yeah, me either! I think that says something about a feature no one (but apparently staff) knew about. Why wasn't that on the games page?
I have been here for over a decade and I had NO IDEA that's something that could happen... 18 years here and yeah, me either! I think that says something about a feature no one (but apparently staff) knew about. Why wasn't that on the games page?


Amber
STAFF
Yeah, I can turn off the request for Drills to request the bubble popping at midnight. :) I want it to be fair for everyone that had to deal with it today.
@Mackenzi Yes, you could only get r1-99 minions. 1/100 seems like a lot, sure, but that's every single time you pop one of those minions. If you aren't lucky, sucks to be you basically. That rate is actually more rare than some things I've added like some avatar borders / other achievements.
@Bliss I'm going to avoid doing Cash Shop minions, sorry! I can add that friend to the Hustler, though.
@Eitleoidhme Next month, you'll be able to get some minions past 1-99 in addition to 1-99.
@Mackenzi Yes, you could only get r1-99 minions. 1/100 seems like a lot, sure, but that's every single time you pop one of those minions. If you aren't lucky, sucks to be you basically. That rate is actually more rare than some things I've added like some avatar borders / other achievements.
@Bliss I'm going to avoid doing Cash Shop minions, sorry! I can add that friend to the Hustler, though.
@Eitleoidhme Next month, you'll be able to get some minions past 1-99 in addition to 1-99.
This makes me so nostalgic. I was obsessed with Trapped Minions when it first came out (like what, 15 years ago?! I was in middle school.) Glad to see it's getting some love again.

I tried feeding them in the past but never had any luck with any popping (don't think I fed as much as I remember though XD). This is a great update!
I've fed over 9,400 minions and I popped a handful, so I have no idea where 1/100 came from. It will be interesting to see where it lands.

Hm, I've never had one pop before but I haven't fed that many to begin with so that's probably why lol.

I knew they could pop but I've never had one pop before, though I wasn't trying very hard either. I really don't want a wait time between feeding minions but I wouldn't mind a longer wait time after I free one. So if I'm aiming for the achievement and I don't get lucky I can make progress faster. But if I get lucky then make the wait before I can save another one whatever seems reasonable. My first thought was 30 min but I wouldn't mind even longer.
The rarities are between 1-99 right now but after the proposed changes they will go higher than 99. The part that confuses me is it sounds like the only minions that would go home with us after the changes are ones that are over rarity 99.
The rarities are between 1-99 right now but after the proposed changes they will go higher than 99. The part that confuses me is it sounds like the only minions that would go home with us after the changes are ones that are over rarity 99.

aaaahhhh awesome! i...i'm one of the people who didn't know the bubbles pop until... right now

Lol I am so relieved that I'm not the only one to find out that the bubbles pop JUST NOW through this post. So excited to try it.

@Amber After reading this and the linked forum thread, I am still a teeny tiny bit confused- there was a 1 in 100 chance for minions to pop IF they were rarity 1-99, and higher rarity minions had zero chance to pop? So there was no chance to get non-restocking minions at all? Because 1 in 100 seems like a much better rate than what I've seen people get (only one or two per thousand minions fed).

Cool! I never bothered with it bc it seemed pointless as i didn't realize they could pop :v

1/100? was it really that high?? i've fed 1,474 minions and only ever had a bubble pop twice!

I didn't know the bubvles were supossed to pop
Lol
I read "those are trapped minion waiting for rescue" and though that some else, an NPC was supossed to be space travelling on rescues missions ang got lost ij a lot os something
Lol
I read "those are trapped minion waiting for rescue" and though that some else, an NPC was supossed to be space travelling on rescues missions ang got lost ij a lot os something

This idea was a great suggested I'm so glad it's done another good suggestion is what Sydney said "Drills requests to feed minions be put on pause"


I don't think I ever had one pop. I completely forgot it was even an option to play this game lol.

1/100 chance of popping? Wow, that's so common! It's an entire percentage point! [laughs in Terraria player stockholm syndrome]
Joking aside, I'm glad staff is listening to feedback and testing out changes.
Joking aside, I'm glad staff is listening to feedback and testing out changes.

I love the idea and the increased chance to get a minion (I think it's been at least 6 months since I last got one from a popped bubble). However, now I'm struggling to complete a Quest because all the minions are fed. So, yay! and sad boo!
Wow! Thanks for looking at this feature. I played it off and on on the off-hand chance I could get a rare minion. Over 2000 bubbles and I only had ONE drop.
I second the idea that Higher Rarity Minion have the higher 1/100 chances to drop.
Also, if you could add the Poiko as a Minion Option you can also get by achievements for this, that'd be cool. I know we have a few.
I second the idea that Higher Rarity Minion have the higher 1/100 chances to drop.
Also, if you could add the Poiko as a Minion Option you can also get by achievements for this, that'd be cool. I know we have a few.

I honestly thought the chance of a bubble popping was even less than 1 in 100, or I might have played this game more.
Looking forward to seeing some retired minions able to enter circulation again, even if rarely.
Looking forward to seeing some retired minions able to enter circulation again, even if rarely.


I LOVE that this feature is getting looked at! If I can put my two cents in I think the rate of bubbles popping should scale with the rarity :) Super common minion? Much higher chance at it following you home!


Wonderful! I've helped ~800 of these poor minions & only ever popped two bubbles. This is a very nice change~
Also thought that I'd mention there's an Achievement for helping these little guys too:
https://subeta.net/achievements.php#/achievement/133
It's not for releasing them, just for feeding them. ♥️
Also thought that I'd mention there's an Achievement for helping these little guys too:
https://subeta.net/achievements.php#/achievement/133
It's not for releasing them, just for feeding them. ♥️

Thanks for the updates and info! I had no idea we had no chance of saving those unbuyable minions ;~;
I get them done whenever Major Drills asks for them since I need them for the achievement. ^^
I get them done whenever Major Drills asks for them since I need them for the achievement. ^^

More would be great thank you @Amber
Yep popping any more I will wait till it cools down
Yep popping any more I will wait till it cools down

It may be worth implementing a ""loser point" system where it gets increasingly likely that a bubble will pop for you the more you feed(up to a point) which resets on a pop.


I've been on here 15 years and I swear I only just popped my first minion a month ago. I was freaked out by it! I am so glad you are tweaking this, because I would love to pop more minions and have a chance of getting some super rare/expensive/hard to get ones.
I usually only do them for Major Drills, but I guess that will be harder to do for the next little while, but thats ok :D
I usually only do them for Major Drills, but I guess that will be harder to do for the next little while, but thats ok :D




Amber
STAFF
Once things cool off in a few days, I might add another row of minions. :eyes: Everyone is rushing to do this right now, I'd rather not do any big changes yet!

A wait time would be good as long as I still could finish my quests for drills but I tried feeding some n i fed 2 could have done more but gave others a chance so I stopped at 2

I remember back in the day when it was really hard to feed minions because so many people were always there, this reminds me of the good ol' days T___T And if I'm being honest.....I did not even know there was a chance for them to follow you home LOL whoops.
Thank you for this!!! I'm excited about the changes :3
Thank you for this!!! I'm excited about the changes :3


I don't hate the wait limit idea @thinking_kiwi mentioned. I think this change is very cool, but even without this change, sometimes I'd get there and all of the minions have already been fed. I'm trying to think if there would be a downside, like if the wait limit could just cancel out the increased chances of a bubble popping if it's too long of a limit. but we all want to get a chance to feed the minions too.

I wish the page had more trapped minions it might be too busy to do those drills quests

Wow 1/100. I thought it was WAAYYYY lower as I've fed so many minions and have seen them pop a handful of times.


@thinking_kiwi yea I noticed a few feeding them now time for me to set back n wait till later

Yep and I got a u buyable minion when I fed 6,000 n only popped a handful but I need 91 minions I forgot about the one I bought today that cost me 22 mil I been even buying crystal shop minions so I hope I can pop just a few that will save me money for another one off my list

current issue: can't feed any minions cause ppl are going through them way too fast! maybe implement a limit? 2 minions every 10 minutes or something... i wanna feed a cute minion too :c

... I'm sorry, THE BUBBLES CAN POP AND GIVE YOU A MINION??? :scream:
I have been here for over a decade and I had NO IDEA that's something that could happen...
I have been here for over a decade and I had NO IDEA that's something that could happen...

While other greedy games are taking away nice features that don't make them any money, Subeta is adding them. This is why we never leave. 🤣

Yea popping those bubbles was very rare n I fed over 6,000 n never the rare ones popped I need so thank you I love it now I might have a chance getting the last 92 minions I need









Thank you! I attempt this on and off, but I've never had a bubble pop before--despite feeding over 200. It's like the Oofa fruit. Never had a bug inside one either, and I've been on site for a decade feeding them to my pets.

Wait Amber it was 1 in 100? that common? I thought people were saying it was way smaller in the thread...



Also here to say, as someone who does use it, THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO POP??? i don't believe it!!!

Amber
STAFF
hahahahhaa you can tell how not used this feature was with people going YOU CAN GET MINIONS???

wait, the bubbles pop? LMFAOOO. I thought it was a time/sP-sink feature for the achievements LUL


I had no idea you could get minions from feeding the trapped minions?! I thought it was like a fantasy charity thing, feeding the babies out of the goodness of our hearts (or on Drills quests) and rarely played it. This is a cool update!

YESSSSS. Thank you!! The motivation to waste sP feeding minions for no good reason was severely lacking. An actual chance of bringing home those rarer minions still needed for my collection is huge motivation!

Thanks for sorting this. I feed at least one most days for Drills quests and seem to have fed checks achievement score 1424 of the things over time. I think one popped once, years ago. (I'm guessing I won't be able to feed any for the next few days but that's fine - it's like Blackheart Hollow, nearly everyone forgets about it a few days after the post!)

Wow, I haven't fed minions for years so forgot this was a thing. I only fed them in the past for a reason, like a challenge. But nice to know it's getting some adjustments. Thanks.
Wow! You managed to pop its protective bubble! Gazengel can't stay here anymore, so why not take it home with you?

I have fed 1,024 minions out of 6,000 so far. Now I'll never be able to feed another minion until feeding minions becomes old news again. :(

thank you! the trapped minions minigame is one of my favourite onsite features, but it was getting disheartening hearing about how poor the pop-rates were.















