Hi everyone, happy August!
I'm posting to let you guys know that at midnight subeta time tonight, we'll be taking the site offline for a few minutes to do some reorganization.
A few days ago one of our web servers suffered a crash. This particular web server is the one we use for programming Subeta, and also the one that ran the crons ("cron" is short for "chronological" and is programmer-speak for a script that runs according to a schedule. All timed events on subeta, like shops restocking, are controlled by crons.)
Anyway, we took the opportunity to reorganize our code a bit, making it a lot easier for programmers to code and test new features for the site. Some of our changes make it necessary to take the entire site offline for a brief period while we move things around.
I'd say the site will be down for 20 minutes or so, depending on how things go. Because we'll be moving around the code itself, there will be no "downtime" page; instead, your Firefox (you are using Firefox, right? and not IE? good!) will be unable to connect to Subeta until things come back up.
As always, thanks for your patience and support!
I'm posting to let you guys know that at midnight subeta time tonight, we'll be taking the site offline for a few minutes to do some reorganization.
A few days ago one of our web servers suffered a crash. This particular web server is the one we use for programming Subeta, and also the one that ran the crons ("cron" is short for "chronological" and is programmer-speak for a script that runs according to a schedule. All timed events on subeta, like shops restocking, are controlled by crons.)
Anyway, we took the opportunity to reorganize our code a bit, making it a lot easier for programmers to code and test new features for the site. Some of our changes make it necessary to take the entire site offline for a brief period while we move things around.
I'd say the site will be down for 20 minutes or so, depending on how things go. Because we'll be moving around the code itself, there will be no "downtime" page; instead, your Firefox (you are using Firefox, right? and not IE? good!) will be unable to connect to Subeta until things come back up.
As always, thanks for your patience and support!
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Kudos to IE Users! Us IE'ers love IE (:
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Haha. FF > IE
IE is baaaaad.
IE is baaaaad.
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minno150
Mm, I use IE6. Rather prefer it, but I play Subeta in Firefox, because it looks and behaves better there. But anything IE6 can handle, I use IE6 for. Can see how it's a pain in the butt though, I've recently been trying to code a forum to cater to FF, IE7, and IE6, and the lack of fixed positioning has been a monster. But alas, I have triumphed! =D
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thesleepingrose
Alx, you are just fabulous. Thank you for being so... attentive to our need for info. I'm so glad we have you around.
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nitae_huntress
-Has IE.- ._.; How do I get this firefox you speak of, and is it free? >=D
Thanks for update.
Thanks for update.
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Psychedelia
Icweweasel ftw. <img src="http://images.subeta.net/smilies/6398_emoticon_wink.gif" border="0" />
Updates that I read after they are done, even better, mostly <img src="http://images.subeta.net/smilies/6398_emoticon_grin.gif" border="0" />
Updates that I read after they are done, even better, mostly <img src="http://images.subeta.net/smilies/6398_emoticon_grin.gif" border="0" />
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Ahhh update AND info! <img src="http://images.subeta.net/smilies/6398_emoticon_heart.gif" border="0" /> <a href="/users/alx" id="userinfo_alx_1"><img src="http://images.subeta.net/icons/staff.gif" border="0">alx</a><script type="text/javascript">toolTip('userinfo_alx_1', '<center><img src="http://images.subeta.net/avatars/bra/slifrichus.png"><br /><img src="http://images.subeta.net/icons/staff.gif"><strong>alx</strong><br />Administrator<br /><strong>Name</strong>: Alex Rickabaugh<br /><strong>Posts:</strong>: 9<br /><br /><img src="http://images.subeta.net/medals/trophy_restock.gif" border="0" style="width: 25px; height: 25px" /><br />', 'User Information');</script> you are the BEST thing to happen to Subeta! Having this info enables us to plan ahead, and your updates acknowledge that time is indeed important to manage! Thank you for that. <img src="http://images.subeta.net/smilies/6398_emoticon_smile.gif" border="0" />
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thanks for the heads up.
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Takumi_589
I honestly loathe IE. Firefox and Opera have never stopped in the middle of loading a page on Subeta and replaced it with an obnoxious "Internet Explorer cannot display the webpage" message or the like so far. I suspect that one of the Microsoft programmers might have just made a typo in the code or something (that wouldn't happen with Firefox, either).
Thanks for the advance notice. I wasn't particularly thrilled at the various times before when I tried to log on with the site was down and only learned about the downtime after the site returned.
Thanks for the advance notice. I wasn't particularly thrilled at the various times before when I tried to log on with the site was down and only learned about the downtime after the site returned.
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Monbohn
Oh yeah, I also have problems trying to create my avi - is that an IE problem. I had problems when I first joined but then it worked fine for a while (I think I may have done some updates or something - I don't remember exactly) and now I have problems again.
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Monbohn
Thanks for the update and explanation - it helps people like me who can barely turn the computer on, nevermind understand it. I've heard before that Firefox is better than IE, but I am not sure how to go about switching them. IE was automatically there when I bought my computer - is Firefox something I need to buy or is it just a download? Thanks again!!
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Julie
Thanks for the heads up! We all appreciate it. <img src="http://images.subeta.net/smilies/6398_emoticon_heart.gif" border="0" />
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Nonchalant
Alex, you're the bestest head programmer this site ever had <img src="http://images.subeta.net/smilies/6398_emoticon_heart.gif" border="0" />
Thank you so much for the GREAT update breaking it down for people like ME who haven't slept in a day and are a bit "duuuuur" right now.
Thank you so much for the GREAT update breaking it down for people like ME who haven't slept in a day and are a bit "duuuuur" right now.
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JESSYTA
<b>Quote:</b><blockquote style="padding:5px; line-height:15px; background-color: #FAFFFF; border: 1px solid #000000; font-family: georgia; font-size: 10;">
This better fix the items in shops.</blockquote>
LOL @ demanding stuff
This better fix the items in shops.</blockquote>
LOL @ demanding stuff
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Jasper
This better fix the items in shops. I'm having trouble locating some items because they're out of order and shops keep randomizing my search results. I have bought things from the Crystal Shop that I can't find and I don't want to buy them AGAIN!
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Thankls for the heads up! ....I'm using IE T^T But its not like I'm gonna be on at midnight anyways xDD
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FexHex
It is great that you are letting us know about downtime in advance, for all the reasons people have said already.
I also play on a site called Kingdom of Loathing. Their site goes down for maintenance every night for 30-45 mins. On Saturday night, it is down for maintenance for an hour. Everyone knows, nobody complains, that's just the way it is.
KoL is very low-tech, stick figures only, but it is almost completely reliable. I have never seen it go totally down.
Just wanted to toss that out there. <img src="http://images.subeta.net/smilies/6398_emoticon_smile.gif" border="0" />
I also play on a site called Kingdom of Loathing. Their site goes down for maintenance every night for 30-45 mins. On Saturday night, it is down for maintenance for an hour. Everyone knows, nobody complains, that's just the way it is.
KoL is very low-tech, stick figures only, but it is almost completely reliable. I have never seen it go totally down.
Just wanted to toss that out there. <img src="http://images.subeta.net/smilies/6398_emoticon_smile.gif" border="0" />
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BEACH
Having info and knowing ahead of time=GOOD
Blindsighted and not knowing=BAD
LOL thanks alx if I were younger, I know I love you *wink*
Blindsighted and not knowing=BAD
LOL thanks alx if I were younger, I know I love you *wink*
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alx
jl77us: no, it won't affect that
Modsoul: IE's many, albeit improving, security problems aside (and antiviruses/adware scanners that detect malicious code *after* IE lets it onto your computer don't make IE any better)...
From a programmer's standpoint, IE is terrible. It lacks solid support for standard things that other browsers have supported for years. Often it does support these things, but in different and unusual, IE-only ways. Even when it does claim to support standards, IE is often very buggy. The result is that to support IE, otherwise simple code becomes far more complex, and far more susceptible to bugs in all browsers.
At Subeta, we attempt to support IE, but like many, many other websites, you will always get the best results by using a standards-compliant browser, like Firefox, Opera, etc.
xth: Did you know that Maxthon uses IE's layout engine unless otherwise configured, and will be susceptible to the same CSS problems that IE has? <img src="http://images.subeta.net/smilies/6398_emoticon_raspberry.gif" border="0" />
Of course, you should always use what browser you like and works best for you, I'm just saying that you'll probably have fewer problems on Subeta (and other sites) if you steer clear of IE. We'll try to support it, but it might not always work correctly <img src="http://images.subeta.net/smilies/6398_emoticon_wink.gif" border="0" />
Modsoul: IE's many, albeit improving, security problems aside (and antiviruses/adware scanners that detect malicious code *after* IE lets it onto your computer don't make IE any better)...
From a programmer's standpoint, IE is terrible. It lacks solid support for standard things that other browsers have supported for years. Often it does support these things, but in different and unusual, IE-only ways. Even when it does claim to support standards, IE is often very buggy. The result is that to support IE, otherwise simple code becomes far more complex, and far more susceptible to bugs in all browsers.
At Subeta, we attempt to support IE, but like many, many other websites, you will always get the best results by using a standards-compliant browser, like Firefox, Opera, etc.
xth: Did you know that Maxthon uses IE's layout engine unless otherwise configured, and will be susceptible to the same CSS problems that IE has? <img src="http://images.subeta.net/smilies/6398_emoticon_raspberry.gif" border="0" />
Of course, you should always use what browser you like and works best for you, I'm just saying that you'll probably have fewer problems on Subeta (and other sites) if you steer clear of IE. We'll try to support it, but it might not always work correctly <img src="http://images.subeta.net/smilies/6398_emoticon_wink.gif" border="0" />
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thanks for the new update <img src="http://images.subeta.net/smilies/6398_emoticon_smile.gif" border="0" />
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Rakumel
Actually, thank YOU for explaining things and letting us know about the downtime. <img src="http://images.subeta.net/smilies/6398_emoticon_smile.gif" border="0" />
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Lavabeast
I absolutely love this fresh, friendly operations department. It's wonderful to know when the site is going down, and why, and to be told in a simplified (but professional) way.
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DaBluMeanie
Alex - your updates are such a breath of fresh air! Thanks for keeping us informed. I for one appreciate knowing that the site is going down before hand. It's a bummer when the crons don't work properly or need resetting - usually that means that thousands of people can't do what they usually do when they are on line, I am so glad they are being tended to
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Sherbet
Thanks for letting us know ahead of time and not 10 minutes before the site is about the go down xD Like some notices were before and I never got a chance to read them before the site ka-poofed.
And yes, I'm using firefox xD IE is made of fail on my computer :c IE7 = worse then IE6. Or my Vista just killed it and it takes 20 hours to load and then I gotta update the stupid thing everytime I try and open it.
And yes, I'm using firefox xD IE is made of fail on my computer :c IE7 = worse then IE6. Or my Vista just killed it and it takes 20 hours to load and then I gotta update the stupid thing everytime I try and open it.
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LadyJan
You guys are doing a great job keeping us informed about downtime, giving us lots of notice, and explaining what's being done and why. Much appreciated!!
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StarGazer772
Thank you for keeping us updated, I will be waiting here for subeta to get back online cuz its worth the wait...Firefox is the best, I never cared for IE <img src="http://images.subeta.net/smilies/6398_emoticon_smile.gif" border="0" />
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KathyRunkle
You people are so nice to keep us peasants informed of what's going on all the time. I LOVE you guys!
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Moreska
Thank you for the heads up and the explanation. You're awesome <img src="http://images.subeta.net/smilies/6398_emoticon_smile.gif" border="0" />
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Diana
Thank you programmers! You're the greatest! <img src="http://images.subeta.net/smilies/6398_emoticon_smile.gif" border="0" />
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asatreu
You are using Opera, right? and not IE or FF? good! <img src="http://images.subeta.net/smilies/6398_emoticon_smile.gif" border="0" />
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Raviste
I'm using Opera, lol. <img src="http://images.subeta.net/smilies/6398_emoticon_smile.gif" border="0" />
Thanks for letting us know about the downtime.
Thanks for letting us know about the downtime.
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Marcus
Thanks for the warning. <img src="http://images.subeta.net/smilies/6398_emoticon_smile.gif" border="0" /> I really appreciate how you told us early, and explained what was going on.
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indulge
Thank you for the downtime, while im asleep. <img src="http://images.subeta.net/smilies/6398_emoticon_heart.gif" border="0" />
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omg_carrie
I use IE e_e.
Anyway, thanks for letting us know <img src="http://images.subeta.net/smilies/6398_emoticon_happy.gif" border="0" /> I don't think I'll be around for it, but thanks anyway <3.
Anyway, thanks for letting us know <img src="http://images.subeta.net/smilies/6398_emoticon_happy.gif" border="0" /> I don't think I'll be around for it, but thanks anyway <3.
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LadyBee
Thanks so much for the heads up. <img src="http://images.subeta.net/smilies/6398_emoticon_smile.gif" border="0" />
I hope everything goes smoothly for ya.
I hope everything goes smoothly for ya.
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moonstone
thanks Alx for taking the time to let us know what will be going on...much appreciated...!! <img src="http://images.subeta.net/smilies/6398_emoticon_happy.gif" border="0" />
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Staticsheep
I don't use firefox <img src="http://images.subeta.net/smilies/6398_emoticon_raspberry.gif" border="0" />
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Well, it's a good thing I don't plan on being online during midnight! <img src="http://images.subeta.net/smilies/6398_emoticon_grin.gif" border="0" />
But, thanks anyway, for giving us the notice!
But, thanks anyway, for giving us the notice!
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pharmacy
Alx, always keeping us updated. <img src="http://images.subeta.net/smilies/6398_emoticon_happy.gif" border="0" />
Thanks! <img src="http://images.subeta.net/smilies/6398_emoticon_heart.gif" border="0" />
Thanks! <img src="http://images.subeta.net/smilies/6398_emoticon_heart.gif" border="0" />
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Delicacy
Thanks so much for the update.<img src="http://images.subeta.net/smilies/6398_emoticon_heart.gif" border="0" />
Letting us know of downtime when possible is so much nicer than it getting slammed in our fact unexpectedly. <img src="http://images.subeta.net/smilies/6398_emoticon_happy_sweatdrop.gif" border="0" />
Letting us know of downtime when possible is so much nicer than it getting slammed in our fact unexpectedly. <img src="http://images.subeta.net/smilies/6398_emoticon_happy_sweatdrop.gif" border="0" />
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(you are using Firefox, right? and not IE? good!).
Actually, IE is a perfectly acceptable browser. The only times it causes problems, is when the person behind it is doing stupid things, and not being wary about their internet protection.
But anyway, thanks for the heads up. Itll be 5am for me, but still XD.
Actually, IE is a perfectly acceptable browser. The only times it causes problems, is when the person behind it is doing stupid things, and not being wary about their internet protection.
But anyway, thanks for the heads up. Itll be 5am for me, but still XD.
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Iason567
Coolio, thanks for the update. Good luck <img src="http://images.subeta.net/smilies/6398_emoticon_grin.gif" border="0" />.
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Syre
Actually, I'm using Safari <img src="http://images.subeta.net/smilies/6398_emoticon_raspberry.gif" border="0" />
Thanks for telling about the downtime <img src="http://images.subeta.net/smilies/6398_emoticon_smile.gif" border="0" />
Thanks for telling about the downtime <img src="http://images.subeta.net/smilies/6398_emoticon_smile.gif" border="0" />
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Cool, hopefully it will fix the issues with the mail
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blush_851
Thank you so much for keeping us informed. ^^ It's nice to know exactly (or exactly in layman's terms) what's going on. Keep up the great work!
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Cee
Much <img src="http://images.subeta.net/smilies/6398_emoticon_heart.gif" border="0" /> for the heads up. <img src="http://images.subeta.net/smilies/6398_emoticon_grin.gif" border="0" />
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Asmodeus
No? <img src="http://images.subeta.net/smilies/6398_emoticon_sad.gif" border="0" /> I strongly dislike Firefox. I use Maxthon.
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Viking
Thanks for the update! <img src="http://images.subeta.net/smilies/6398_emoticon_smile.gif" border="0" />
I love it when I know what's happening. xD
And good luck then! <img src="http://images.subeta.net/smilies/6398_emoticon_smile.gif" border="0" />
I love it when I know what's happening. xD
And good luck then! <img src="http://images.subeta.net/smilies/6398_emoticon_smile.gif" border="0" />
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Phew. I'll be asleep. Thanks for telling us!
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jl77us
A quick question, I am clueless about programing. Will this affect the shops having items in them alphabetical order?
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Thanks for the info! It's good to know when sites are going down...
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lull
It's so nice to be kept in the loop <img src="http://images.subeta.net/smilies/6398_emoticon_grin.gif" border="0" /> thank you alx <img src="http://images.subeta.net/smilies/6398_emoticon_happy.gif" border="0" />
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Panoply
Teehee Firefox plugging <img src="http://images.subeta.net/smilies/6398_emoticon_grin.gif" border="0" />
Thanks for a healthy 12-hour warning! And thanks for taking the site down while I'm asleep <img src="http://images.subeta.net/smilies/6398_emoticon_raspberry.gif" border="0" />
Thanks for a healthy 12-hour warning! And thanks for taking the site down while I'm asleep <img src="http://images.subeta.net/smilies/6398_emoticon_raspberry.gif" border="0" />
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Kat77
Thanks alx <img src="http://images.subeta.net/smilies/6398_emoticon_smile.gif" border="0" /> Its always nice to have it explained, whats going on, and well before it happens! <img src="http://images.subeta.net/smilies/6398_emoticon_grin.gif" border="0" />
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Sawa
Thanks for telling us. <img src="http://images.subeta.net/smilies/6398_emoticon_smile.gif" border="0" />
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Thankyou for giving us a heads up c:
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Midnight_916
Thanks for the update again <img src="http://images.subeta.net/smilies/6398_emoticon_heart.gif" border="0" />
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smeak
Thanks for the heads up! <img src="http://images.subeta.net/smilies/6398_emoticon_grin.gif" border="0" />
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Peroxide
Thanks for the update <img src="http://images.subeta.net/smilies/6398_emoticon_smile.gif" border="0" />
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