Ontra Revamp - Poll!
We\'ve got a new poll for you to participate in! The ontra is currently going through a redesign. As it\'s quite a big change, we\'d like to hear your feedback on it before it goes live! (If you have critiques you\'d like to give, please take them to the revamp feedback forum as it\'s easier for us to go through them there)
Posted by Rah
Wow, I really love this change. Subtle, but it makes the artwork look more modern and definitely cuter. Those eyes!
I do agree the chest might need a very slight tweaking, it almost looks like it's wearing a fluffy bra in a way? Haha, I could learn to ignore it though. It's very adorable overall.
I do agree the chest might need a very slight tweaking, it almost looks like it's wearing a fluffy bra in a way? Haha, I could learn to ignore it though. It's very adorable overall.
Really lovely revamp that makes the pet so much more appealing while changing very little.
My only crit would be that the far side of its chest looks much fluffier than the near side.
My only crit would be that the far side of its chest looks much fluffier than the near side.
The new one looks like a legit Disney critter and that's why I voted for it, because it's too cute! <3
hey! i wanted to let you guys know that there's a typo on the poll that's causing the image not to show up
so i may have already purchased an ontra potion for this and designated an ontra pet. please make this happen.
I voted for the new one because I like the direction the revamp is going. However, I agree with a couple comments I saw -- the eyes are a tad large, and the nose would look better if it were more rounded and otter-like. Either way, keep it up, artists!
ohhh my goodness Rah did a great job making this precious baby. ;O; that face makes my heart melt!! <3
Me likey but I don't like the now 'generic mammal' nose :c the rounded one was much more otter-ish
So adorable, I love this revamp! Just looks so much softer and friendly. Definitely matches Subetas evolving style too.
those eyes those ears those freckllless that tail those paws that nose
-cuteness overload-
im going to need a cream one
-cuteness overload-
im going to need a cream one
ohmygoodness
The proposed revamp makes me really want an ontra.
It's so adorable!
I'm not really seeing any big changes, though...? I mean, other than ears and a redesign of the tail, it's still really the same thing.
I'm all for those ears, though, I always thought the ontra looked a bit off without any.
The proposed revamp makes me really want an ontra.
It's so adorable!
I'm not really seeing any big changes, though...? I mean, other than ears and a redesign of the tail, it's still really the same thing.
I'm all for those ears, though, I always thought the ontra looked a bit off without any.
The revamp doesn't include any super big change and the new one is pretty cute so I vote for yes :p
@foxette
Ears down is aggression or fear, yes, but I saw it as having folded ears- you've seen cats with folded ears, right? These ears look just right for that, imo.
I think it's absolutely adorable, I love everything about it.
Ears down is aggression or fear, yes, but I saw it as having folded ears- you've seen cats with folded ears, right? These ears look just right for that, imo.
I think it's absolutely adorable, I love everything about it.
Ears down shows fear or aggression in an animal. It's at odds with the smiley face. The old Ontra is better.
all joking aside, the new look is very... mature? compared to the current one, which I love. I agree, the eyes could be smaller, but you can't please everyone!
btw, my weaknesses are big noses and little paws, how did you know. ;0;
btw, my weaknesses are big noses and little paws, how did you know. ;0;
I was going to vote for the current one, but the ears on the newer design swayed me. x3 So cute.
I really like Sperio's edits, I think the eyes could be shrunken just a tiny tad bit. c: Besides that, this is a really awesome update!!
OH MY GOSH. I had always liked the ontra before, but that revamp! Those ears. That tail. Along with those eyes and the fluffier fur, I LOVE IT! <3
Aww! Its super cute guys!
I think it has more detail and he looks so innocent C:
I choose yes for the new!
I think it has more detail and he looks so innocent C:
I choose yes for the new!
I logged in specifically for this, because I have many feelings regarding this...
they pretty much go
YES PLEASE
This is everything I wish I had the talent to do years ago and 110% hope that this goes through. I was always sad my little otter baby didn't belong with the popular pets
Yes to the ears, yes to the more natural limbs, yes to the muzzle, yes to the fin additions and nicer tail.
I understand if this looks bad on my part, but the ontra was the first pet I worked on and I was definitely proud then but its like... what 7? 8? years old now? It's definitely time to update and improve its design.
Which artist can I love upon for this, @Rah ???
they pretty much go
YES PLEASE
This is everything I wish I had the talent to do years ago and 110% hope that this goes through. I was always sad my little otter baby didn't belong with the popular pets
Yes to the ears, yes to the more natural limbs, yes to the muzzle, yes to the fin additions and nicer tail.
I understand if this looks bad on my part, but the ontra was the first pet I worked on and I was definitely proud then but its like... what 7? 8? years old now? It's definitely time to update and improve its design.
Which artist can I love upon for this, @Rah ???
Love the new design! It's more "otter" like now while still being in the subeta style. I'd consider one as a pet if they looked like that!
A few things do throw off the look of the new one, however, so I thought I'd offer a few suggestions to see if I can help!
The issue with the eyes has been mentioned by others, and is one of the most notable features that just seem "off". Anatomically speaking, it looks like there is virtually no area for a brain to fit inside that skull-- this could be due to the angle, or simply to the eyes being so large and the forehead being so small.
Otters have a fairly flat and sloped skull (varying depending on species), and this critter doesn't really give off the vibe of having that flat otter-shaped head. If that is the impression the team is going for, then the forehead may actually need to be shortened, with the eyebrows showing the frontal edge of the skull, and then additional evidence of the back of the skull could be given around the back or sides of the face.
However, if Subeta seeks a more "neutral" animal that is not inherently an otter, then the second one of Spireo's suggested edits is an excellent fix for this. Alternatively, extending the size of the forehead (making it larger, overall) could similarly solve the problem. Ontras always had a pretty big noggin, and this would keep it true to the vibe we have all grown to enjoy about this species!
The "line" down the face (as mentioned by another user), while I understand it seems to be a line of fluff on the face, is a little bit too dark & distracting for that purpose. It truly does look like a crease rather than just fluff! Making the lines a lighter color, or removing the line entirely, would probably be a good idea. Otter fur in general doesn't tend to fluff upward like that, as their coats naturally flow in a single direction, so that fluffy bit doesn't flow as smoothly as one might hope -- plus, with as short as the hairs on their face are, it's unlikely that such fluff should be visible at all, anyway. A cute idea, though!
Lastly, this may be more of a personal preference, and again draws from anatomical aspects of living species... The revamp's ears, though, do not in any way seem natural. Unless that animal is upset (which Ontras generally seem like pretty lighthearted creatures), a posture like that for the ears does not casually occur. They currently resemble the vestigial pinnae of a sea lion more than any form of otter and, with the rest of the Ontra's features being (more or less) like a stereotypical cute and fluffy mammal, such ears really would not be expected. Giving them a more rounded appearance would help, as would making them look more forward-facing (with more of the ventral ear surface visible, rather than it all being the dorsal surface of the ear) rather than downward-facing like a sea lion. I don't think either of these changes will harm their "cute" factor in any way, since people are more focused on how kawaii the tiny ears are in general, haha; it will, however, make them look more cheerful and believable, from the standpoints of realistic/expected anatomy!
Hopefully these make sense and are easy enough to understand. I can always provide redlines, if that may be helpful!
All the same, I look forward to seeing the completed product, because I'm loving all the feature additions in this redesign! :)