A Grave Confession
Inspector Thorpe is interrupted by Gunter.
Thorpe: Well, it seems I've cracked the case! I mean, is that right, son? If you'd like to come with me, we'll go down to the local station and go through some questioning and get this all written down. It's nice to have a break from work but it's even nicer to close a case! Now, follow me this way-
Inspector Thorpe is interrupted again by a suave official-looking gentleman.
Thorpe: What the wizard! Taking my case from me? I'm not sure I'm happy about this, who are you anyway?
Cardale: Cardale. Jack Cardale. I'm with the SAI. We have a high security detention facility up in the Arctic Frost, and this is a little out of your jurisdiction, wouldn't you say? I can't promise he'll be comfortable there, but he'll have plenty of time to do a lot of thinking. Good work, Inspector. You're doing a fine job.
The inspector huffs and puffs but accepts.
Gunter: Thorpe, can you give this to my niece, Anne? She works at Quick Bites. She needs to read this. I think she may already know a lot of it, but I need to tell her the whole story.
Inspector: Hmm, I suppose a nice meal wouldn't go amiss.
Cardale: It's doubtful you'll find one at Quick Bites, Inspector. And I'll be taking a photo copy of that letter before you go.
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crashingnightingales
Man, after reading all the comments I'm totally bummed out about this whole thing. Lore building is nice and all but a plot would be stellar right now. Please tell me this will be a future plot of some sort.
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sassysubsis
Was very excited then i have finally gotten a chance to read the comments by staff and so sad and disappointed now to find out that all this is just lore building and no mini plot or anything going on as of right now! :(
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Devil
i come back from a hiatus and the alegarten guy has killed the quick bites' girls father....... i ..........
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hannahharmin
I went to visit Gunter at SAI headquarters and Gunter wasn't up for talking right now...I think he just needs a little time to adjust to his new life.
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Nova
Dude goes into a vat.... instant superhero, or.. zombie, close enough. Wonder what year it'll be when Thorpe gets tired of Cardale's crap and he mysteriously disappears?
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Isilven
Pretty soon Thorpe is going to absolutely lose it finally this time, what with Cardale stealing his cases LITERALLY EVERY SINGLE TIME lol
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Chat
@Lariel,
I probably won't be doing much in the way of the plot Wayward Squirrel has started already and that is my priority
@Tea_Roll
Oh bother! Circumstantial my Aunt Fanny! I provided an eye witness who saw the whole sordid affair played out, saw the Papa who built him a home, who fed him and nurtured him framed-yes framed! by Lovecraft-Why? To replace the hops and barley crops in Veta with vineyards
I probably won't be doing much in the way of the plot Wayward Squirrel has started already and that is my priority
@Tea_Roll
Oh bother! Circumstantial my Aunt Fanny! I provided an eye witness who saw the whole sordid affair played out, saw the Papa who built him a home, who fed him and nurtured him framed-yes framed! by Lovecraft-Why? To replace the hops and barley crops in Veta with vineyards
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grumblewolf
Oh man. I don't know what I find more disturbing...
Gunter's & Bubbles' backstory/lore or that this is not a plot.
I liked him. :(
Also, I'm not sure that I even like Anne that much.
I kinda wish she was the one who was pushed into the vat. :o ;) lol
#truestorytho
Gunter's & Bubbles' backstory/lore or that this is not a plot.
I liked him. :(
Also, I'm not sure that I even like Anne that much.
I kinda wish she was the one who was pushed into the vat. :o ;) lol
#truestorytho
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Selcoeurl
@Diprosopus: No, we didn't. Burkhart is Bubbles (so-called either based on his initials, or because that's what surfaces when someone is drowning) from The Lost Skeleton.
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Valiska
I'm kind of curious how one handles a murder when the victim is still walking around running a pub. I have been wracking my brain trying to figure out why it doesn't particularly bother me that Gunter killed a dude and was getting away with it and then it struck me that turning someone into an Unliving (however that happened) without their consent isn't the same thing as completely removing them from the world of the living. I mean, sure he deserves to be punished, but I wouldn't punish him the same way I'd punish someone who actually killed someone non-recoverably dead.
I mean, if Bubbles gets his memories back and his relationships with old family and friends are restored... he's not really dead. And I've also wondered if the reason he's dead has anything to do with the zombie pandemic. Because if you kill someone in the process of becoming a zombie before you know that zombification doesn't destroy someone's personhood, that's not the same thing as killing someone because they pissed you off.
I mean, if Bubbles gets his memories back and his relationships with old family and friends are restored... he's not really dead. And I've also wondered if the reason he's dead has anything to do with the zombie pandemic. Because if you kill someone in the process of becoming a zombie before you know that zombification doesn't destroy someone's personhood, that's not the same thing as killing someone because they pissed you off.
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MagnusTheRed
@MajorVariola I think she means where is he buried? Since I doubt he has an actual grave (since he's off being a zombie and all) so she might be wondering where Gunter disposed of the body.
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Tea_Roll
.... I'm not being punished by our Empress for starting a feud in the family??..
@Chat
You seem to be building a character strategy in your accusations but that's circumstantial evidence. I'm pretty sure you still need to be able to link her to the murder. There are no witnesses that tie her with any association to any of the parties that are apart of this. She likes her wine not her beer, so she has no reason to frequent this establishment....
@lovecraft @Lariel @Frieda
We may have a case for the Empresses Court....
@Chat
You seem to be building a character strategy in your accusations but that's circumstantial evidence. I'm pretty sure you still need to be able to link her to the murder. There are no witnesses that tie her with any association to any of the parties that are apart of this. She likes her wine not her beer, so she has no reason to frequent this establishment....
@lovecraft @Lariel @Frieda
We may have a case for the Empresses Court....
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MajorVariola_152
Gunter confesses to her father's murder in a letter to Anne,which she read-yet she says " Where on Subeta is my father?" Curious.
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Dreamcrystal
Is it bad that I had to use a text reader to read that letter for me XD I'm just too tired to read everything lol
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Annet
I believe the staff care about more with plots with quality than plots with quantity.
The lore is interesting. Up to now I like it how the staff share their lore with us little by little. That's nicer than when they put the whole story in one time. This way to follow a lore is much more exiting.
The lore is interesting. Up to now I like it how the staff share their lore with us little by little. That's nicer than when they put the whole story in one time. This way to follow a lore is much more exiting.
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TheNarcolepticCatHerder
oh wow i thought Gunter's brother's death was related to the zombie virus. This is pretty heavy stuff.
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talisman
am i a horrible person for not caring about lore at all unless its a plot im so boring lol
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Pandaslowpoke
Hmmm first bubbles is added as a friendly challenger, then gunther is, then this plot happens.........is something going to happen in relation to the other friendly friday challengers? like is Gabriel gonna become a friendly challenger and then there will be a resolution with Olivette and the.....things? that her fear manifested as?
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Book
Not a plot but lore is always great! I wonder if we’ll be able to visit Gunther in the detention facility starting Monday?
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Solsticesprite
@Laurey in my country RL raccoons are a major reservoir of rabies. So the rabid formerly zappy but still madsciencey terracoon will-inject-for-sP? Graveyard and Nightmare as colors for pets are potions and not a zombie bite thing like in humans. There's still room for conspiracy theory and epileptic trees in there, I think.
@mouse NPC Bubbles first appeared as shopkeeper with the appearance of the shop The Lost Skeleton. We only knew him as Bubbles because that's how the URL of his image is listed. Burkhart and Brauer are both new names to us.
@disprospus ancient and medieval workers were paid in beer as food for their labor. But really with the unliving and the Omeni, what's a little cannibalism between friends?
@mouse NPC Bubbles first appeared as shopkeeper with the appearance of the shop The Lost Skeleton. We only knew him as Bubbles because that's how the URL of his image is listed. Burkhart and Brauer are both new names to us.
@disprospus ancient and medieval workers were paid in beer as food for their labor. But really with the unliving and the Omeni, what's a little cannibalism between friends?
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Julia
OHHHHHH MAN that's a nice revamp! It's so nice to see SAI brought back too!
Can't wait to see where this story goes~ I'm totally okay with no plot tbh, I don't have the energy for it rn and I'm just interested in reading the new lore!
Poor Anne and Burkhart. :(
I may be dumb but did Burkhart/Bubbles only just appear in the Underground already Unliving or was Living Burkhart around a long time ago for Alegarten? I honestly can't remember.
Can't wait to see where this story goes~ I'm totally okay with no plot tbh, I don't have the energy for it rn and I'm just interested in reading the new lore!
Poor Anne and Burkhart. :(
I may be dumb but did Burkhart/Bubbles only just appear in the Underground already Unliving or was Living Burkhart around a long time ago for Alegarten? I honestly can't remember.
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Laurey
@Solsticesprite
During Survival, if you choose one of the new strains for the current year, you can pick one of them with the description that appeals to you, but you have to wait a couple of hours for the infection to take hold. If you visit the terracoon guy, you can pay a small fee to be infected instantly with one of the new strains (no wait time), but it's random which one you get.
During Survival, if you choose one of the new strains for the current year, you can pick one of them with the description that appeals to you, but you have to wait a couple of hours for the infection to take hold. If you visit the terracoon guy, you can pay a small fee to be infected instantly with one of the new strains (no wait time), but it's random which one you get.
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Chat
@lovecraft
Pfft! Do you have a witness that can confirm your story? I'm prepared to bribe Oatmeal to claim he saw you give poor what's his face a shove into the masher...I mean encourage the poor orphaned goat to come forward
@Frieda
Obviously anyone who would shave a sweet lil weasel girl such as yourself no doubt has murder and worse in her heart
Pfft! Do you have a witness that can confirm your story? I'm prepared to bribe Oatmeal to claim he saw you give poor what's his face a shove into the masher...I mean encourage the poor orphaned goat to come forward
@Frieda
Obviously anyone who would shave a sweet lil weasel girl such as yourself no doubt has murder and worse in her heart
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Twisted_Pretzel
The Undead Subetans start talking about how they died and soon a bunch of folks gonna go missing.
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Solsticesprite
NPC Bob the Fishing Ontra had something unspeakable happen to him, too. My current headcannon on him is that he fished up a clue about the third stage to free our very own sea-witch and was gonna tell about it. Merana's minions may still be picking his bones.
Me, I pretend to be a zombie hunter during Survival so I have never visited the VIP and have no zombie skins. I thought that was all NPC Gunnar (another NPC with "gu" and schwa-r in their name? Oh noes...). What does the VIP terracoon do for all y'all that go get yourself seriously fatally infected all in the holiday spirit and stuff?
Me, I pretend to be a zombie hunter during Survival so I have never visited the VIP and have no zombie skins. I thought that was all NPC Gunnar (another NPC with "gu" and schwa-r in their name? Oh noes...). What does the VIP terracoon do for all y'all that go get yourself seriously fatally infected all in the holiday spirit and stuff?
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capper09
snieff... i no understand that, is that a plot or event? who can translate it in german please?
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Amber
@Solsticesprite No, the wyllop was Euclid at one point. I’m talking to Terracoon that was blown up by Euclid :p and now does shading dealings underground wit the VIP program.
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Selcoeurl
@Amber: Yeah, they need bigger gloves.
But on a more serious note: I think it's mostly foreshortening. He's holding out his badge so that we can see it; therefore, his hand is closer to the fourth wall and looks bigger.
@Lin: I'm fine with the vegan food being there as an option, as long as "option" is the key word. But, seeing as Gunter had gone vegan, I don't think him not being in charge from here on out would really make a difference as to whether it's vegan or not. And based on his letter, it sounds like Anne—the only other known Brauer—is going to be a lot busier around Alegarten/Neugarten time for at least a while.
@Solsticesprite: I took it to refer to what stops surfacing when someone drowns.
But on a more serious note: I think it's mostly foreshortening. He's holding out his badge so that we can see it; therefore, his hand is closer to the fourth wall and looks bigger.
@Lin: I'm fine with the vegan food being there as an option, as long as "option" is the key word. But, seeing as Gunter had gone vegan, I don't think him not being in charge from here on out would really make a difference as to whether it's vegan or not. And based on his letter, it sounds like Anne—the only other known Brauer—is going to be a lot busier around Alegarten/Neugarten time for at least a while.
@
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SeussMD
I liked Gunter and Alegarten, if this is a standalone that gets rid of the holiday (or the character) or changes it to 'Vegan Fest', I'm going to be SO disappointed. That seems really uncalled for.
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Xezvi
@colorWIRED
Uhhh... we had a plot where we trusted the islanders and they murdered a little girl to appease a sea witch. Subeta's always been dark.
Uhhh... we had a plot where we trusted the islanders and they murdered a little girl to appease a sea witch. Subeta's always been dark.
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colorWIRED
I'm not complaining but has Subeta got a little dark lately?
I love the effort but i've been watching someone play Life is Strange and i'm like, emotionally overloaded lol.
I love the effort but i've been watching someone play Life is Strange and i'm like, emotionally overloaded lol.
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FCoD
I excitedly click on the news and think oh holy carp... a plot. Then I come here and see nope.
:(
:(
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Solsticesprite
The NPC that ran the other zapper was a subeta pet some kind of wyllop, not a zombie? We know how zombification happens in Subeta, it's an infection,so the whole idea of Bubbles becoming zombified doesn't add up with just being murdered in a vat. I think Gunter wasn't as drunk as he says he was and was subjected to horrible mind-altering vat-chemicals and just doesn't remember it. Thorpe and Cardale are part of a coverup!
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MerlinPendragon
Was this your way of getting rid of a character? Don't understand the use of this, if any. I hope I will understand eventually. Does it means no more fest? Or a different kind of fest?
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Jotaro
Oh welp, it's not a plot. Why use the exact same set up then? Guess only so many ways to do this.
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Hunger
Ah, I was excited this was a plot, lol. But no...
Anyway, it's good to have more lore and you know, murders and stuff
Anyway, it's good to have more lore and you know, murders and stuff
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Austria
I guess if only the unliving are meant to go into the underground, Gunther and Anne never would have seen Bubbles in his current incarnation, so they'd have no idea...
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beinagrind
also the thought of gunter walking around everywhere constantly equipped with steins of beer is funny to me #lifegoals
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SpaceKitty
Whoa! Holy shit, not what I was expecting to read! This is my first year on subeta, so I didn't know there was this much drama.
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Wolfmyth
Not a plot they say....*sigh* Lore building is nice though...I hope we get a little more...
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MagnificentToaster
Yooo, hey there Cardale. And lol at Gunter sadly confessing to his murder while holding two big foamy beers. Weepy drinks for everyone! (Poor Oatmeal! We accidentally put his care in the hands of a neglectful murderer? Though I suppose Gunter had a LOT of worries to feed him, eh?)
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Laurey
@Fyreheart
I'm guessing that maybe the SAI being there has something to do with Bubbles becoming a zombie after he died, because weren't they part of the original investigations during the first couple of Pandemic/Survival years? That's all I can really think of for why they would be involved.
I'm guessing that maybe the SAI being there has something to do with Bubbles becoming a zombie after he died, because weren't they part of the original investigations during the first couple of Pandemic/Survival years? That's all I can really think of for why they would be involved.
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Laurey
I also feel like there is still some stuff to be developed eventually. Like does Gunter know that his brother became Bubbles after he died? Bubbles appeared in Gunter's nightmare challenger image, but I'm not sure if that was just for us the users or if Gunter knows. Because it seems like Anne still doesn't know.
And I guess Bubbles is kind of remembering some of this, so will he try to contact Anne if he ends up remembering more?
I need answers. ;~;
And I guess Bubbles is kind of remembering some of this, so will he try to contact Anne if he ends up remembering more?
I need answers. ;~;
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Fyreheart
This seems odd. I don't see why the Subeta version of the FBI is suddenly involved when the murder wasn't seen as a murder at the time. If Gunter has confessed then he just needs to go to prison and the end happens.
Methinks something bigger is at hand here....
Methinks something bigger is at hand here....
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Tea_Roll
Okay, where's Gunters lawyer! This is obviously a forced confession, people getting murder around here, everyone knows @lovecraft did it!! Now what kind of blackmail does she have on poor Gunter... Unless @Chat did it!! Mr. Frenchie Mc Stick Thrower!!! (There @Spiderwebby. That's my theory)
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StarShadow
I'm confused, what are we supposed to do? I went to the link and bought a food item. Now what. I don't see a letter any where. My Firefox keeps freezing up all the time so I don't have a lot of time to try and figure stuff out right now and I don't see a board in the forums on this. So, confused.
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Amber
@FelineDreams I don't have an answer for that, but a good example of someone being murdered and then popping up underground is the NPC that ran the other Zapper :x
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Phlizz
Reading his letter, I'm pretty chuffed to find out that things played out exactly like I speculated they might have (which I didn't truthfully expect; I thought the real explanation would turn out to be something more extreme and implausible). Which means it was all very nicely foreshadowed by the staff. :)
So many questions still left though! Will Anne track down her father, and will he get his memory back once he has some facts? Will she move to the brewery (giving us a new NPC in Quick Bites)? Is Gunter going to just rot up in the arctic forever more now? Will there even be an X-garten next year, and if so what form will it take? (given the drama this year stirred up I wouldn't blame staff if they wanted to ditch the event entirely.)
So many questions still left though! Will Anne track down her father, and will he get his memory back once he has some facts? Will she move to the brewery (giving us a new NPC in Quick Bites)? Is Gunter going to just rot up in the arctic forever more now? Will there even be an X-garten next year, and if so what form will it take? (given the drama this year stirred up I wouldn't blame staff if they wanted to ditch the event entirely.)
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FelineDreams
@Amber so..he died in the vat...how did he get to be a zombie then and lose his arm...? Is that something that is covered somewhere else in lore...?
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Solsticesprite
Now me, I was always headcannoning Bubbles got named for some suppurating wound that isn't immediately apparent on his NPC shop image. Occasionally, it would let out a floating bubble because y'know, unliving zombies they do that?
But no, it's just from BB. *sighs*
But no, it's just from BB. *sighs*
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Lin
Please tell me this doesn't mean octoberfest is going to turn into veganfest because, seriously? We're better than that.
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MuerteDice
Quote:
Always winter, never Christmas!not a plot
But at the least I'm glad to see this finally get off the ground. I feel like I've been waiting for weeks!
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Avel
What about Manwar and Rumi? They were around with Gunter and seemed somewhat aware of the rumors.
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Raven
awww not a plot :( we didn't have on last year either -sniffs- I really REALLLY want a plot
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METROID
@Seoni
BA-DUM-TISS
Beautiful. Just, perfect.
Well, that happened. As for motive...yeah, I can understand it. Gunter finally had something he could do that his brother couldn't, but doing it all by yourself is such a burden. Having help makes it easier. So I can understand Gunter's frustrations that his brother, who could pick up skills rather quickly otherwise, just couldn't help with the brewery. Plus, add a little one into the mix, and it becomes a tough situation.
BA-DUM-TISS
Beautiful. Just, perfect.
Well, that happened. As for motive...yeah, I can understand it. Gunter finally had something he could do that his brother couldn't, but doing it all by yourself is such a burden. Having help makes it easier. So I can understand Gunter's frustrations that his brother, who could pick up skills rather quickly otherwise, just couldn't help with the brewery. Plus, add a little one into the mix, and it becomes a tough situation.
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Laurey
Ah, I see now. Updated text on the SAI page as well:
https://subeta.net/explore/sai.php
"If you're here to see Gunter, he's currently being processed. I suggest coming back on a weekday."
https://subeta.net/explore/sai.php
"If you're here to see Gunter, he's currently being processed. I suggest coming back on a weekday."
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Laurey
@Amber
Makes sense, I guess we really haven't seen him since that old Masquerade plot, if I remember correctly. Hopefully Cardale can show up again in the future now that he's got a spiffy makeover. :P
Also curious about Gunter as the battle challenger, since the Brewery is no longer clickable on the Veta map. I guess something will come of that soon?
Makes sense, I guess we really haven't seen him since that old Masquerade plot, if I remember correctly. Hopefully Cardale can show up again in the future now that he's got a spiffy makeover. :P
Also curious about Gunter as the battle challenger, since the Brewery is no longer clickable on the Veta map. I guess something will come of that soon?
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Jangalian
I've been on and off Subeta for the past few years so I missed a lot of the lore/plots. This is the first one I've seen in a long time and oh boy is it a doozy...
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Laurey
Cardale's is more obvious, but did Thorpe get a revamp as well?
Also yay finally a development ~
Also yay finally a development ~
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Carlita
I was going to ask if it was a plot (the first in which I would participate) but they said no and my heart broke lol
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Nuke
Sorry to be mean but literally all I care about is the fact that I'm looking at Jack Cardale my first Subeta love holy shiiiIIT AAAAAHHHH
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