Another Survival Update

I know in my last news post, I let y’all know that quite a few of us on staff were dealing with weather issues that made getting the holiday done hard. We’re still sort of in that position, unfortunately. While I’m not personally under a lot of snow anymore, my internet connection is either the pace of a snail or just trying its very best to connect. Which really makes it hard to add the really cool items we have in store for Louis and Skitters!
So instead of risking losing one of those items or spending half the day adding things, I’m here to express my regret that we’re going to have to push Survival back a bit more. Before you get too upset, hear me out!
Some things to look forward to:
- Survival will still be the same length it has been in previous years, roughly 15 days.
- We’ve decreased the time between stages for a skin by hours! You’ll surely get more skins for your collection this year… also that sounds very gross.
- This year’s skins have fewer stages than previous years, so hey! You’ll get them even quicker!!!
- We’re going to try very hard not to use the word ‘virus’ or ‘infection’ when the holiday starts, because of the actual real-life pandemic. Gunner has to do some rebranding but it’s fine!
I’m really sorry that this holiday has been pushed back so much when I know so many of y’all enjoy it.
Posted by Amber
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Straywillow
Thanks for the update

I don’t get why some people keep calling the event Pandemic rather than Survival. As far as I’m aware, the Great Pandemic was only ever used to refer to the first year of the event with subsequent years going with Survival instead?
For the record, while I wouldn’t have been bothered with “virus” and “infection” still being used, I still think not using them is a better decision at least for this year. Better safe than sorry (or whatever phrase works better).
For the record, while I wouldn’t have been bothered with “virus” and “infection” still being used, I still think not using them is a better decision at least for this year. Better safe than sorry (or whatever phrase works better).

Thank you staff for the update. It will be enjoyable no matter when it happens. The important thing is that you are all safe and warm. That goes for users too.
Be safe everyone.
Be safe everyone.

I didn't used to have a problem with the word "Pandemic" but 2020 made me hate that word. I don't like that there are still people calling this event The Great Pandemic, it's always been just Survival to me.

Please take care of yourselves and know that we appreciate your hard work and letting us know.
Glad you‘re all trying your best to stay safe, and considering all the obstacles being thrown our way I’m on board with shortened viruses this year.

Hey, it's fine! We're still getting an event at the end of the day! Just be safe out there~!

@Amber I am personally offended that you guys are re-branding this unique, one-of-a-kind, Subeta only traditional holiday "PANDEMIC" into something other due to RL overdose.
We come to Subeta to escape the the humdrum of RL, please don't alter our Subetean experiences due to RL issues.
PS: also looking forward to a fun & functional Pandemic, so take your time...
We come to Subeta to escape the the humdrum of RL, please don't alter our Subetean experiences due to RL issues.
PS: also looking forward to a fun & functional Pandemic, so take your time...

Of course real life concerns come first! Stay safe and good luck to everyone struggling with the weather or anything else.
I do want to second an opinion I've seen a few other comments - I'm not sure I understand the need to avoid the use of the word 'infection' etc. Of course the pandemic is an extremely serious situation, but this is a zombie-themed event -- clearly the context is different. COVID has been terrible, but that doesn't make 'virus' a dirty word. What's more, the holiday is literally called Survival - why not use it to acknowledge what everyone's been through in the past year, and what hope there is for the future?
I'll be happy to see whatever you come up with, and I appreciate that you're trying to be sensitive - I just wanted to throw my two cents in because it struck me as odd.
I do want to second an opinion I've seen a few other comments - I'm not sure I understand the need to avoid the use of the word 'infection' etc. Of course the pandemic is an extremely serious situation, but this is a zombie-themed event -- clearly the context is different. COVID has been terrible, but that doesn't make 'virus' a dirty word. What's more, the holiday is literally called Survival - why not use it to acknowledge what everyone's been through in the past year, and what hope there is for the future?
I'll be happy to see whatever you come up with, and I appreciate that you're trying to be sensitive - I just wanted to throw my two cents in because it struck me as odd.

:) I appreciate all the hard work the Subeta team has been doing on this. Stay safe and warm guys! <3

Thanks for keeping us updated and stay safe!
Excited to hear the event will still be the normal length of time and for the decreased stage times/fewer stages for the strains this year.
Excited to hear the event will still be the normal length of time and for the decreased stage times/fewer stages for the strains this year.

I dunno, why not change "virus" to parasits? Like, instead of calling these things just use 'hoast' or something like that? I think it's pretty neat imo


it sounds good, i prefer a steady event.
i dont agree with avoiding general terms like virus and related stuff.... eye roll
i dont agree with avoiding general terms like virus and related stuff.... eye roll

i would certainly rather have a functioning, fully accessible holiday than an on-time holiday! you all do what you need, we'll be fine. <3 i also don't entirely see the point behind rebranding due to the actual pandemic happening, but i see that some other people appreciate it. it doesn't matter to me either way tbh.

I totally get the push back but I don't get the reason for the added sensitivity? Skitters is a zombie and the skins are mutations from classic zombie bites. I don't understand how anyone can be offended by using normal genre terms.
I'm not offended by the pandemic. If anything you could've just used this as a little bit of a reachable moment with the items (a wash your hands sticker, maybe more mask variants?)
I don't think Subeta needs to exit from these words because they aren't inherently malicious. There is a time and place for sensitivity and we cannot shield from everything.
I'm not offended by the pandemic. If anything you could've just used this as a little bit of a reachable moment with the items (a wash your hands sticker, maybe more mask variants?)
I don't think Subeta needs to exit from these words because they aren't inherently malicious. There is a time and place for sensitivity and we cannot shield from everything.

This all sounds fabulous, especially if it comes with all ya'll being/staying safe. Anyone who begrudges this needs to reassess their priorities...

Dude, I'm just glad you guys are safe. Hang in there, and we all know the event's going to be baller when the forces of nature aren't conspiring to keep it from happening.

@Amber
Less time for skins sounds exciting!
VIP = Very Important Progressors (just a suggestion, and not sure of spelling, because you progress through the skins.)
I personally can't wait to see what's in store for items and skins this year. I'm sure all good things come to those who wait. Thanks for the update. :)
Less time for skins sounds exciting!
VIP = Very Important Progressors (just a suggestion, and not sure of spelling, because you progress through the skins.)
I personally can't wait to see what's in store for items and skins this year. I'm sure all good things come to those who wait. Thanks for the update. :)

I'm definitely looking forward to Survival, but it wouldn't be fair to start it until most people can be assumed to have power again. I'm glad to know it's coming, and really glad to hear I might be able to get more skins! Stay safe and thanks for all your hard work.

Controversial opinion incoming: I don't think we should be avoiding those words due to real life issues. Zombie games haven't stopped being made/marketed because of the pandemic so why should we, a niche petsite, avoid using these terms for a make-believe holiday? One that subetians treat like a costume change (as if it isn't.) It's not as if rebranding it as "experimentation" or "mutation" is going to be any less insensitive to the current crisis' because people in poor countries have been used for experimentation and the virus has mutated several times over to the point where the vaccines may not be effective so... I don't see how we can avoid this. Like, sure, that one spotlight win was insensitive as all get-out, but it was also racist so that's a legit reason to boot it from existence. This holiday, however, has been going on for over a decade and was made despite the SARS epidemic still being a thing 2004 and didn't cease for the swine flu of 2009 and bird flu of 2013 so.... yeah, it seems a bit late to try and be sensitive now. Better late than never, I guess???

Happy for the news that Survival is still coming, but also hoping that it won't affect the length of Masquerade which comes after it, as that is my absolute favorite Subetan holiday. In the meantime... do your best to stay warm and safe out there everybody! We're going to make it through all this craziness. It's been subzero temps most of the past week and a half here but today... today is sunny. We're gonna get there!

It was such a hectic week I barely noticed it was the 20th already... looking forward to Survival :)
Yay!! Thank you, Amber for finding a way to keep survival for us, even with all of the chaos that we all call life now :heart:

Stay safe. :heart:
I mean maybe the zombies would like to be a part of Masquerade? I'm so sure many love to dance.
I mean maybe the zombies would like to be a part of Masquerade? I'm so sure many love to dance.

Wait, if you're going to avoid using the word "Infection", does that mean the VIP can no longer be called the VIP? Or will you find a way to keep the acronym?
I'm honestly not even worried about it, I just hope you all are safe and unharmed. Whatever you guys want to do to keep any part of this holiday going is good with me. I know and very much appreciate that you're all trying your best in very difficult situations.


Whatever works best. Glad to hear the same length of time for it, less hours and less stages for the skins. My main thing about survival is seeing how many skins I can collect, so all this sounds good. Thanks for the update.

Although it is pushed back, I am glad it is still going forth. All the work you and staff do to make our experience here is so worth it. Especially these updates. Gives me something to look forward.



Thank you for the updates! I'm very excited at getting more skins this year, I still need a bunch in my wardrobe, so being able to add more to the collection is very much appreciated. :)
I also can't wait to see what this year's new skins will look like, along with all of the new items. I'm sure it will still end up being a great event, even if it's delayed. Be sure to take care of yourselves, safety is more important than internet games. Sending love to all of my fellow players in Texas as well, it's been very bad here. <3
I also can't wait to see what this year's new skins will look like, along with all of the new items. I'm sure it will still end up being a great event, even if it's delayed. Be sure to take care of yourselves, safety is more important than internet games. Sending love to all of my fellow players in Texas as well, it's been very bad here. <3
I just hope we get better L'amour items than we did last year. I don't actually mind BDSM items but why were they all blue? I can't even use them because the 'black leather' is actually blue

Thanks for letting us know, and assuring us that it won't be shortened. And I'm excited for the faster progressions, that was one of my biggest complaints about Survival, especially that one year where most of us lost our strains and had to start over (yes I know we had an extension to make up for it but it was still tedious). I'm actually more concerned about the skins and the technical issues than I am about the new items, I don't know exactly where it is that Bug lives or if he's being affected by the weather too.
Do you think we'll be seeing something else happening later today? For example, a new challenger, or a new item being added to a certain shop?
Do you think we'll be seeing something else happening later today? For example, a new challenger, or a new item being added to a certain shop?

Thank you for keeping us up to date! I know you are trying your best but also safety first. :)

Thank you for the update. The situation is completely out of anyone's control. Sending out all the good vibes that this family and everyone's RL families are safe and warm.

Take your time, do all the things you need to first. Your real life safety and needs come way before this game you guys. <3


that is wonderful Keith gives everyone a chance to do some, like me, for example, I have been stuck in my room in the house that has no computer..lol only two rooms in my whole house can be warmed, and it got down to 3* here. only wish the weekend quest could be ongoing and trade up for a while....but you can't have everything..lmao
stay strong and don't worry I am sure everyone understands this. :)
stay strong and don't worry I am sure everyone understands this. :)

Thank you so much for decreasing the time needed to earn a new skin! That is wonderful. :)

I guess this means Masquerade will also be pushed back a little. Oh well. Be safe. Be calm. Be kind.




No worries! Stay safe and warm! Thank You for the update. I'm looking forward to what's in store!!


