Time to throw Snowballs!
What is the next holiday?
If you said Vesnali, then you are correct. ;) We are adjusting our holiday schedule to move Vesnali to be closer to the start of Spring rather than the end. Masquerade timing has simply been flipped with our flower-filled holiday. The flowers will start to bloom around the start of April.
Note: Throw a Snowball achievement has had its final tier adjusted.
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Tartelette
I'm happy with flipping Vesnali and Masq! Ves is much more low-key than Masq, so it's nice to have a bit of an activity buffer between Survival and Masq. Plus, April just feels like the best month for a nice springy holiday!
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Chef
I have trades with snowballs (10 for10K) and snowballs in my Are you Being Served II shop if anyone would find it easier to buy them that way. :-)
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Tessalia
Happy with the change -I do hope it also means are also being reviewed. For example, one year we had a truly amazing and fun masq event in which we even had puzzles, etc etc. Very exciting times. Nowadays it is all about dancing/kissing/flower/ the user above you in the forums.
Would love to have some plot returning to Subeta :) i love this site! <3
Would love to have some plot returning to Subeta :) i love this site! <3
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StarShadow
Vesnali is one of my least favorite Subeta holidays so nice to get it over with before wonderful Masquerade appears.
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Anrivef
The holiday switch makes sense, Vesnali feels a bit less involved and is a good breather in between Survival & Masquerade. Alsooo I’m excited to see how people’s Masq HAs will differ based on the seasons!
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Sneaky
I was looking forward to Masq, but I'm also looking forward to Vesnali with lots of nice flowers and stuff. And with Survival starting later in February and ending in March, changing the holidays around and having the next one start in early April rather than late March makes more sense. And even though it's still interaction-based, it does feel a bit less than Survival and Masq, maybe because there isn't a timer between giving flowers so it feels more relaxed that way?
I remember the days when Vesnali was around the middle of April and it was so soon after Masq, I was relieved when they moved it to May, but I can see why it would be confusing to be about halfway through Spring.
I remember the days when Vesnali was around the middle of April and it was so soon after Masq, I was relieved when they moved it to May, but I can see why it would be confusing to be about halfway through Spring.
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Kros
Little annoyed at the switch, so perhaps for making of bouquets? We could make corsages, boutonniere to wear for Masquerade please^^
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Thunderbird
I already have my Spring/Vesnali outfit(s) in place, so this is fantastic news for me!
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Oasis
Thank you! I'm glad Vesnali will be happening first. It should always be in early Spring, and not so close to Summer. Its more fitting that way.
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foxfaeble
Yay! Vesnali at this time of year makes more sense to me since we're following Northern Hemisphere seasons, and I love the spring items!!
As for people saying it's kind of late for snowball throwing... where I live we got 5 inches of snow last week! *laughs in Midwestern*
As for people saying it's kind of late for snowball throwing... where I live we got 5 inches of snow last week! *laughs in Midwestern*
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omg_carrie
I'm thrilled at Vesnali being moved forward... as I recall, it used to happen around this time of year before Masq was a thing, and the change has always thrown me off! Just makes sense to have Vesnali first, plus personally I'm looking forward to having a more low-key event between the user-interaction-heavy Surv and Masq (hope that makes sense, wasn't sure how to word it ^^;). Thanks for the update! :)
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Kinky
I like this change in holiday timing. It just makes a lot more sense. I know it screwed up a lot of CW creators and sellers, however, so it would have been a little nice to have some warning, but this is a change that makes a lot of sense in the long run.
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Alcremie
THANK YOU. Thank you sooo much for switching Masquerade and Vesnali. Vesnali doesn't belong at the end of Spring, but early-mid Spring. It just makes sense. I never liked that Masquerade came after Survival, especially as these events get delayed and extended so much.
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METROID
If the DC got cleared because 40k+ items was responsible for any lag, then by all means, clear it.
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Maria
Masq is hands down my favorite holiday, and I love it being moved closer to summer. Also will help with all the holidays at once, then quiet for awhile. *thumbs up*
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Skolletta
Sad to see the DC items get deleted. They were getting picked up really quickly. :c I don’t think this was warranted.
I’m down for the change to the holiday schedule, though! I vaguely recall it being mentioned before, and it will make the holiday season much less hectic. Keen to see how it goes. c:
I’m down for the change to the holiday schedule, though! I vaguely recall it being mentioned before, and it will make the holiday season much less hectic. Keen to see how it goes. c:
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Hunger
Ah, I was expecting masq, lol. But it makes more sense to have vesnali I suppose, so that's ok.
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Sydney
Unlocked Throw a Snowball!
Earned for throwing snowballs with the Snowtapult! LAST TIER Yippeee!
Earned for throwing snowballs with the Snowtapult! LAST TIER Yippeee!
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Galaxia
@gatorgirl
Yes, we do love the Subetan community and how generous it is, and the investment shown in sharing the candy love is amazing!
We will look into restoring some of the candy hearts, we just want to make sure we can implement something that doesn't stress the servers and don't want to promise anything prematurely.
Yes, we do love the Subetan community and how generous it is, and the investment shown in sharing the candy love is amazing!
We will look into restoring some of the candy hearts, we just want to make sure we can implement something that doesn't stress the servers and don't want to promise anything prematurely.
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stjarne
i threw in 100+ hearts to the DC if anyone wants. :)
also, the new holiday switch kinda makes more sense to me. vesnali more close to spring & to real-life easter, and masq more close to the time where a bunch of schools irl hold their dances or whatnot. that's just my thought process
also, the new holiday switch kinda makes more sense to me. vesnali more close to spring & to real-life easter, and masq more close to the time where a bunch of schools irl hold their dances or whatnot. that's just my thought process
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gatorgirl
I happened to have a tab open to the DC from 10:30 this morning. There were still over 40k Candy Hearts in there at that time. :(
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Galaxia
@Delphi
There's no existing code for that, unfortunately, and trying to put something together plus testing it would still leave the entire site lagging in the meantime. We realize it wasn't the perfect solution, but a decision was necessary.
@allnightforever
Amber made a staff post about it here here, but to quote the last sentence of it, "I [Amber] bashed my head and am dealing with the health effects of that." That is still an ongoing concern.
There's no existing code for that, unfortunately, and trying to put something together plus testing it would still leave the entire site lagging in the meantime. We realize it wasn't the perfect solution, but a decision was necessary.
@allnightforever
Amber made a staff post about it here here, but to quote the last sentence of it, "I [Amber] bashed my head and am dealing with the health effects of that." That is still an ongoing concern.
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Moonie
Deleting the candy hearts was a pretty cruel trick. Super happy that Vesnali is near Spring now though. It doesn't make sense to have it at almost summer time.
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Phantomhive
Gotta love when Subeta messes with something that wasn't broken rather than fixing things.
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Delphi
@Flygon
So? They were donated. I'm not familiar with the contest you speak of but if people were incentivised to donate it was so other people could get those donations. I don't need hearts and didn't grab any so I'm not complaining because I wanted them. Just think it's uncool to trash donations.
So? They were donated. I'm not familiar with the contest you speak of but if people were incentivised to donate it was so other people could get those donations. I don't need hearts and didn't grab any so I'm not complaining because I wanted them. Just think it's uncool to trash donations.
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Saturnine
tbh there were a TON of Candy Hearts. I half-heartedly played an still have about 200 from idle clicking. Whatever happened to the SubetaTeam account buying items in shops for whatever reason?
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SeriousGreen
Works for me...actually changed my avatar and forum siggie to a Vesnali theme before the announcement. Ready to "spring" into all the celebration fun. :rabbit: :tulip:
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Cornflower
I feel disappointed a little bit -.- , because the previous schedule fit perfectly to my cultural and nature background, so it was more familiar to me:
->Balls season - December to March
->Carnival and Masquerade - in February or March
->May = 'time of blossoms/flowers' in my language - most of the flowers and trees are blooming here^-^ (it's also month associated with love - you should kiss your lover under the cherry tree on 1st May:D)
->Balls season - December to March
->Carnival and Masquerade - in February or March
->May = 'time of blossoms/flowers' in my language - most of the flowers and trees are blooming here^-^ (it's also month associated with love - you should kiss your lover under the cherry tree on 1st May:D)
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Delphi
This change makes sense and I'm so on board.
Not cool about the candy hearts disappearing from the donation center though. Personally I would never want things I donated to just dissappear. Those were ment as gifts to the people of Subeta. If things in there slow down the site then maybe like others have said put a max that can be seen at one time and "hold" the rest for later? Idk what the best way to do it would be but deleting stuff people donated is just not cool.
Not cool about the candy hearts disappearing from the donation center though. Personally I would never want things I donated to just dissappear. Those were ment as gifts to the people of Subeta. If things in there slow down the site then maybe like others have said put a max that can be seen at one time and "hold" the rest for later? Idk what the best way to do it would be but deleting stuff people donated is just not cool.
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PinkPanther
30K is still a stupid high amount for top tier, but its an improvement none the less. :)
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allnightforever
@Galaxia well I know the whole MM as an event was basically not happening that’s fine, but I thought there was supposed to be something with the Ice Fields releasing the items we would have gotten or something along those lines. The last thing I remember about it was an announcement that it wouldn’t be done as quickly as was thought, but never saw an update on if the items would still be released that way or were already released.
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Spatial
I was excited for Masquerade, but I'm honestly more bummed about the vanished candy hearts... I love that this is a place where people donate to their fellow players and to have 50k instances of good will just.. voided out ... feels kinda sad. If having too many items in there breaks the site, could there be some sort of toggle that keeps people from donating when it's full? or a 'reserve' of donated items that don't show up until what's in there clears out?
Its not like people weren't grabbing them (like with the sticker incident)
Its not like people weren't grabbing them (like with the sticker incident)
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Laurey
It may take some getting used to, and I can understand the upset from people who may have been ready for Masq to start soon and now have to adjust, but in the long term I think this change makes more sense. It will be nice to have the spring holiday be more actually during the heart of spring again. Since Masquerade isn't really based on a real-world holiday, it can kind of happen whenever and still be alright. I'm glad that nothing is being removed completely though, just switched around. c:
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Kat77
I'm glad Vesnali is closer to beginning of spring, flowers and fun!
It will be a little weird to have it before Masquerade tho! :D
It will be a little weird to have it before Masquerade tho! :D
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Galaxia
@allnightforever
Keith was working on an update to address some things about MM people had been asking for when he caught COVID. We also had some server issues and had to switch to a less robust set-up. Unfortunately the timing for it just hasn't worked out so far, especially as Keith was working on authentication and wardrobe issues and then we hit the holiday stretch on Subeta.
@Puncture
I suspect the candy hearts were cleared from the DC because the sheer number of them was causing lag for the site, but I'm checking on it now and will update for sure when it's confirmed.
Keith was working on an update to address some things about MM people had been asking for when he caught COVID. We also had some server issues and had to switch to a less robust set-up. Unfortunately the timing for it just hasn't worked out so far, especially as Keith was working on authentication and wardrobe issues and then we hit the holiday stretch on Subeta.
@Puncture
I suspect the candy hearts were cleared from the DC because the sheer number of them was causing lag for the site, but I'm checking on it now and will update for sure when it's confirmed.
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666
lol, I'm really start to feel for the CW artists trying to keep up with the holiday schedules.
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Zephyr
I’m super excited about Vesnali. I just missed it last year as I joined in July. Honestly it makes more sense for it to be before, since it’s the spring themed holiday! I can’t wait to check out Esther’s shop. So many tempting items that I’ve seen floating around but wanted to buy from the shop.
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Blythe
Every year at this time I wonder why Vesnali doesn’t come before Masq. It just makes sense to have Vesnali occur when the first flowers are popping up in real life (in the northern hemisphere) and then it gives a little breathing room to all three events, so we’re not just rushing from one to the next. Also, totally selfishly, Vesnali items are my favorite items, so super excited to be seeing them soon! But I also raise a glass to all of us in the comments with our Masq outfits already planned. I guess now we’re EXTRA prepared.
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Sunfire103
Thanks, I was always kind of hoping this would happen ^_^ I'm guessing Masquerade was for Mardi Gras originally, that's why it was in March?
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Sneaky
Oh, alright then. What is going to happen with Bird Watching, though? Will there be another post about that soon?
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KappaYoshi
I was just prepping up for Masquerade, but I find this holiday swap where Vesnali will start closer to the beginning of Spring to make perfect sense. I’m excited to see what new flower bouquets can be made. I’m still loving the 
from last year! 😊 🐸
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-HyperBlossom-
I feel hurt a little about this because I was ready for the Masquerade and now we are going to do Vesnali. That's all fine and cool so now Vesnali will come first before the Masquerade. A permanent change to Subeta calender if I am reading this correctly. Alright let me go get all my outfits ready.
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jhyllah
I'm honestly completely on board with this. Makes total sense, especially with real life Spring holidays!
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Sneaky
Also, the Holiday Schedule page hasn't been updated yet, are you going to do that soon for newer or returning users?
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Sneaky
...This is going to take some getting used to. But maybe I'll enjoy Masquerade being closer to summer. Not all holidays have to relate to real life holidays anyway, like how Neugarten got moved to summer and is more of a summer celebration thing. Maybe Masquerade could be an end of Spring celebration rather than beginning.
What about Bird Watching, though? You said you would extend it, but if Vesnali is happening within the next few weeks then we'll just go back to it not working until it's over.
What about Bird Watching, though? You said you would extend it, but if Vesnali is happening within the next few weeks then we'll just go back to it not working until it's over.
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Eitleoidhme
Always thought it would make more sense this way but now that its happening after all these years. It will be an adjustment but I hope its one we all enjoy.
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nervous
I'm actually so stoked. I missed last Vesnali because I have an end of spring/summer job that requires me to live on a campus without internet until late summer so looks like I'll actually be able to hang with Esther this year! Thanks, Staff!!! ♥
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Magic
Yay! I honestly prefer Vesnali in April; it just feels right to me, idk.
Honestly it makes more sense to push Masquerade into the summer, imo. A nice summertime masquerade ball where you could theoretically go outside into the courtyard, etc, vs March, which is mostly still winter and cold. We also don't have any major holidays in the summer.
Honestly it makes more sense to push Masquerade into the summer, imo. A nice summertime masquerade ball where you could theoretically go outside into the courtyard, etc, vs March, which is mostly still winter and cold. We also don't have any major holidays in the summer.
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Mythology
Why the change for the holiday swap? I didn't think anything was wrong with the original timings?? It just seems odd, but times are a changing.
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hannahharmin
It makes sense to have Vesnali at the start of Spring. My snowdrops are blooming and my daffodils/Hyacinths are coming up and Vesnali will be here at the same time. YAY!! <3
I don't mind having Masquerade after Vesnali, in May even. It gives us something to look forward to when events and holidays are spread out throughout the year. :)
I don't mind having Masquerade after Vesnali, in May even. It gives us something to look forward to when events and holidays are spread out throughout the year. :)
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Tucker
Back to the boring snowball buying and throwing. I managed to hit 18k before it was shut down for survival. Onward to 19k and beyond. At least I get a laugh from the mustache snowball, it's my favorite.
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Namira
While this excites me, I wanna know who was watching me make my masq outfit for 3 hours last night. 😅 now I have to get changed lol
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Urania
Vesnali Is the Sub I like less, very little interaction comparing to great Pandemic and Masquerade, as far as Masquerade is concerned move it on may it seems to be worse than moving Vesnali in late spring. But this is only my opinion
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Saturnine
Vesnali last year was what...late April? May?
Masq in May?
I'm not going to lie I'm a little bummed because it's always fire, but it's all good bc Vesnali is cool too.
Masq in May?
I'm not going to lie I'm a little bummed because it's always fire, but it's all good bc Vesnali is cool too.
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Colorful
Don't get me wrong, I love that Vesnali will be sooner and Masquerade later... but dang, I already got my Masquerade exclusives on D: Maybe a little bit of a sooner notice would've been nice? *sobs*
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Hello
Excited for all the events! Makes me a little sad there has been a decrease in the amount of players over the years. I really wish this website lasts as long as possible! <3 Brings me a lot of joy.
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boy
subeta be spittin' holidays
also, will the Dr. Lockhearts medicines be re-activated now that Survival is over and they can't ruin skins anymore?
also, will the Dr. Lockhearts medicines be re-activated now that Survival is over and they can't ruin skins anymore?
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DimDim
snowball throwing, now, before easter, super timing. as long as christmas stays in december here, everything is ok for me.
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Kale
This seems a bit late in the year to have the snowball thing but whatever, I'm glad it's happening.
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feral
I understand the change for the holiday but dang does that mean I need to rework a month's worth of CW releases LMAO.
(Subeta slapping me down for being over prepared!!!! jk)
(Subeta slapping me down for being over prepared!!!! jk)
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