(Late) Friendly Thursday Challenger

He doesn't say much, but don't be fooled into thinking that means he doesn't feel much either. Mathis is a deeply caring soul to those that he has formed a relationship with. Someone like Mathis is the most dependable friend you could expect to have! Plus he puts up the BEST shelves. Your pet hipottu could sleep on them, they're so sturdy!

Mathis doesn't fight out of anger. He's more the kind of guy to break up a fight. The only thing likely to get him to lash out is being confronted with the one thing he spends his life trying to avoid. If you can find out what that is and unlock Mathis as a challenger, be gentle! He doesn't mean to hurt you. But he WILL hurt you.
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Mythiene
Everyone should be aware that it DOES take MULTIPLE tries. I wasn't counting mine, but it definitely took quite a few. For many people, 10 seems to be the right amount.
CastlesInTheSky
You've found a Hidden Opponent!

Mathis challenges you to a fight in the Battle Coliseum!

35 min later
Jai
Ah, I did get him, but didn't get a notification.
Chansey
You've found a Hidden Opponent!
Mathis challenges you to a fight in the Battle Coliseum!

Finally got him :)
Kindred
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Sorry Explorer, it was for science, you can stop losing to Prodigy now :p
StarShadow
You've found a Hidden Opponent! Mathis challenges you to a fight in the Battle Coliseum!
Finally. Used my newest/weakest pet fighting Pock, Saper and Riscors with a Sir Skittleton attached and lost about 10 times.
StarShadow
Is there any certain opponent we need to lose to?
tortillachip
I finally got him to show up after losing to Prodigy about 10 times. I was about to give up, but I'm glad I kept going.
Armor
I'm having some trouble, anyone got tips for me? It's just not seeming to trigger for whatever reason--
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SolusAurora
@Jai Remember to check your challengers, you may have gotten the event without noticing.
Jai
I've done everything and I'm ready to pull my hair out. I've changed my pet's minion several times. I've battled with no weapons. I've friended and done all of that stuff to no avail. What am I missing?
Laurey
@jensen
Thanks! Added that one to the challenger guide.

If a certain item is too expensive for you now
SolusAurora
You don't need to go expensive
jensen
@Natsume
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@Laurey
looks like Natsume found a third minion that works for sure. good timing too, since it looks like one of the other two confirmed ones is... suddenly expensive p:
jensen
@Isilven
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Natsume
This may help
Isilven
Question,

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PrincessJudith
I am not quite sure I understand but I will give it a try. Thank you
Icarus
@PrincessJudith I'm using my lowest battle set, but deselecting the weapons once in battle. No joy yet on the challenger front though!
PrincessJudith
Can someone tell me how to battle without weapons. I removed all my weapons and now I cannot battle
Jenna
I got it after 5 or 6 loses, just keep trying if he isn't popping up
Jai
Apparently I'm the loser who can't get it. I've done everything and still can't get the challenger.
Luck
Yay thank you. I finally just got Mathis too.

for clarification
FCoD
Took quite a few losses with Zhanarra but finally:

You've found a Hidden Opponent!

Mathis challenges you to a fight in the Battle Coliseum!
thinking_kiwi
@Jess @METROID
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METROID
@thinking_kiwi
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Jess
@thinking_kiwi Try it a few more times? It may be random.
thinking_kiwi
@Jess I just did that and it didn't work.
Jess
So I think we've narrowed it down to:
Skrett
More people have unlocked him, but the answer isn't entirely clear. Multiple steps involved?
thinking_kiwi
Guys, all we know until now is:
At least 1 user (Wesker) has already unlocked (and defeated) Mathis and with the hints they gave about it (the ones I know of), we've gathered:
-It has something to do with LOSING a battle.
-It has nothing to do with the wardrobe/wearables/HA
-"Mathis is a deeply caring soul to those that he has formed a relationship with. Someone like Mathis is the most dependable friend you could expect to have!"
Jai
How do you find Mathis' NPC friend page? [user=""User not found: [npc] Mathis] ?
Leafeon
@Ziorac Well, several previous commenters (@Laurey) have mentioned that Mathis is dating Victoria, whom if I'm correct is a pilot in Ziara. Problem is... I have no idea how to find her @jKat (psst, a little tip here?) :sweat_smile:
I'm relatively new here (been around less than a year) so I'm not familiar with a lot of lore either. But I think I have dug up a few things that have been explicitly mentioned on the site which I wouldn't need a ton of background information from the previous years!
Ziorac
@jKat
Are there any NPCs that we know are friends with Mathis and are battle challengers? Since he'll try to break up fights and will likely stick up for his friends?

I don't know much about Subeta Lore personally, but maybe someone else does?
jKat
wondering if its something to do with getting a creature animal pet to attach to you? Not sure where i go to check this out so help is appreciated
Laurey
@SNSD
It's a specific action to unlock each challenger, and it's different for all of them.

You can see the solutions to the previous Friendly Thursday challengers in this thread of mine:
Topic: [Discontinued] Complete List of Unlockable Challengers

I don't have Mathis listed yet though, because most of us still haven't figured it out (including me, heh).
jKat
according to @Wesker she hinted it wasn't wardrobe related.
her only hint was this phrase was very important -
Mathis is a deeply caring soul to those that he has formed a relationship with. Someone like Mathis is the most dependable friend you could expect to have!

maybe befriend mathis and victoria?? about to try
Polenta
FAIL
SNSD
So not to look like an idiot but how do these work? I accidentally unlocked Esmerelda recently and I have a suspicion for Mathis but not sure what all things/actions count. Like I see people talking about active pets, wearing items, doing things and coming back. Is it specifically actions or DOING things or can it be as simple as having an item in your inventory?
BlueRiver
another fail
PrincessJudith
Sigh.......
thinking_kiwi
Nopes
thinking_kiwi
You guys are the worst, how come you haven't shared the sweet details yet??
@Amber this is all your fault isn't it... you're making the people who figured it out realize it's more fun to watch us squirm, isn't it? IF THIS DEVELOPS INTO A CIVIL WAR, DON'T SAY I DIDN'T WARN YA
RNA
Do you suppose wearing a lot of weapons will do the trick?
Battling with weapons that are broken or rusty?
Battling with bombs?
Laurey
@lioness
He runs the Sable Smithy shop.
Saix
Who is this guy though. Like what page is he on to even begin to test on
jKat
@Its_Just_Me
do you mean this?
There is one other thing that you need when you lose and it has to deal with what would make Mathis mad. It's sort of the opposite of the things he likes.

ive wasted hours on wardrobe and inventory. Now ive fought Forj.

I don't get who I'm meant to fight and lose to?
Petcollector
Everyone: You might want to wander over read the last couple of pages of Battle Chat. There are a couple of hints there. I still haven't figured it out though, but am pretty sure it has to do with battling.
jKat
ive been in my wardrobe for 2 hours trying various items with cat sturdy and items like @Wesker
its driving me nuts!!
Darkrai
@Greg
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Greg
Hint? Maybe who knows
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Targaryen
I tried a pen, pail of water, zombie cat, fire extinguisher, a bomb, a sword and the cronus blade but nothing! I got work early and stopping for tonight.
curbdirt
Omg I'm dying over the loot. Gahhhhh I love and hate these secret challengers man this is awesome :sunglasses:
BlueRiver
don't work either
I'm really at a loss :(
Pun
no reaction
manipulation
Rolled my hipottu pet over some store - and the library shelves all over subeta and sadly they didn't stand a chance. I need a proof or a source of these fake news because stating something like this is irresponsible and someone might get hurt. At least my hipottu is not amused. Who hired this man? Was laboratory testing performed in order to support these claims ? If so, on how many hipottus? Did any animal get hurt in the process?

So many questions.
Aline
I've tried wearing stuff with mice and rats, to no avail.

Tried putting a Cupboard Rat in my inventory... Nope.

I don't think he's trying to avoid rats.
Pun
Anyone got a
Bellows
to test out on him?
SongSparra
@mouse Yeap that's def. the man!
Jack
@SongSparra

Luke Cage? If he grew out his beard and moustache he would look very much like him. Definitely lacking the unbreakable skin though lol
moonstarr
Wow, this is difficult. I never was good at riddles. Hopefully this doesn't require a person to have a pet hipottu or something.
teacup132
and of course, I'm dealing with a mild headache that can go into a migraine... not helping to try to find challenger :S

dogs? bandaids? rain?

mmm eyes closing on me x.x
SongSparra
I'd rather have to battle Victoria (thusly annihilate), that way Mathis can be back on the market and put shelves up at my place lol.
He reminds me so much of one of the Marvel heroes, been watching the series and can't for the life of me remember it or his name now damn it!
Ferinsy
@Jess first thing I did xD
shylarah
Yeah if you don't have good weapons -- and good scrolls! -- you fight several tiers below your pet's tier. ^.^;;
Jess
@Ferinsy Maybe you should file a ticket so it can be fixed?
Bliss
@Wesker
I have a crappy T9 pet and haven't invested in good weapons yet
Wesker
@Amber

I hate that stupid bear. Second worst challenger next to careapier

@Bliss

I think he might be a T10 or even T9 challenger depending on your build and weapons.
Starscream
@Amber
Well, that discovery took just over 3 hours. You and Bug are definitely going to have to work harder on making it impossible. :P
Ferinsy
also not this
aaaand I'm done trying already, just gonna wait xD
Ferinsy
lol only got home now...

not this
Bliss
@Wesker
I can't battle him anyway. My pet only has 1,587/1,587 HP lol
Johnny_673
I wouldn't be surprise if Mathis would just literally show up and punch me in the face for all the cap I sent him ayyy
Amber STAFF
@METROID hE'S JUST MISUNDERSTOOD

(i bet @Wesker is screaming at her phone right now like NO HE'S JUST THE WORST)
METROID
@Amber
That's because the Mage is a jerk LOL
Amber STAFF
@METROID i've sat next to Wesker as she screams at her laptop at the mage. I never underestimate her hahahah
METROID
@Amber
Shouldn't underestimate dedicated battlers lol
Amber STAFF
@Wesker :|
Wesker
@Amber

You Won!
You have defeated Mathis 10 times!
You won a(n) Extremely Hard token to use in the battle shop!
Mathis drops:
Core Alloy
Core Alloy
You earned 3100 sP for beating Mathis!
Verdugo earned 1245 EXP Points!

He's gonna have to try harder than that with those stats =x

opponent stats
loot drop
Amber STAFF
@Wesker i hope he murders you
Damon
@Wesker
-shakes madly- TEEEELLLLL USSSSSS!!!! ;-;
Keliora
Or hating to talk plus hating writing = super-hating newspapers or the limelight/spotlight or something?
Wesker
@Amber

You've found a Hidden Opponent!
Mathis challenges you to a fight in the Battle Coliseum!

"Hello darkness my old friend" T-T
Keliora
I don't know why but I thought Mathis would avoid writing/pens at all cost. I wonder if we can play him at Rock Paper Scissors. xD
METROID
@Amber
give us a hint please? One hint.
METROID
Has anyone tried bringing a Forj to him? I somehow doubt that, though. It's gotta be something doable for everyone, and I doubt staff would want to base it on a decently rare-ish item that would require to be traded around.
Amber STAFF
Puncture
SHOW YOURSELF
Sketch
>Visits Mathis
>Gets a random event

You can't play with people's heart like this, Subeta.
Johniarty
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Chocolate
Has anyone tried giving the "dead" minions to their own pets and either visiting Mathis in his shop, or his pet? Or perhaps naming the minions with dead related names?
I'm just trying to combine pet month into this challenger.
homestuck
just noticed i forgot to add the spoiler thing, i'm sorry ;y; (my idea didnt work though)
homestuck
tried wearing glasses and fighting, didnt work xD
BlueRiver
didn't work either
Lypsyl
Thanks all! I saw the other references, but didn't remember the horse thing.
Damon
@Lypsyl
Lol pretty sure it was a joke to an Old Spice commercial. I could be wrong though.

Nope
Laurey
@Lypsyl
I'm pretty sure it's a reference to those Old Spice commercials with the guy on the horse, there are other references to the company and Mathis on the site as well.
Amber STAFF
@Lypsyl the minion is a reference to the old spice commercials!
Lypsyl
I was checking out the contents of the Mathis Chance bag to maybe get some more insight.

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shylarah
nope
shylarah
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Lypsyl
Tried a bunch of stuff, maybe some stuff others have already tried. Nothing worked yet.
NOT
Bliss
@Quest
I would, if I had 50mill XD
Quest
Can someone visit him with a
Forj
in their inventory?
Johnny_673
nopes
Ashei
NOT THIS EITHER
Luck
nope
Marlboro
I tried adding Captain Cuddles as my pet's friend and going to the pets profiles and to his shop, didn't work
Johnny_673
Its pet month, he has an Archan and gives and Archan-themed prize, wiki says "He has a soft spot for cats"
so yeah
Yoshi
Nope
Ginseng
some ideas
Bliss
Maybe he's trying to avoid a breakup with Vic?
METROID
Must have something to do with woodcraft. The news description goes on about Mathis' very nicely made shelves. Maybe he hates broken or badly made furniture?
Damon
Nope
Marlboro
Maybe something to do with Captain Cuddles

Captain Cuddles
Laurey
Didn't work
Bliss
@Its_Just_Me
No big deal lol

I tried plushies. That didn't work
Petcollector
@Bliss Awwww Thanks, but I didn't mean for anyone to buy it, but hopefully it will be useful as a weapon. :)
Darkrai
@Virus None of those worked :(
Sketch
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Amber STAFF
@thinking_kiwi yesssssssss
frederick
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Assea
He is one one of my favorite npc :)
Damon
Anyone try
MonsterDrool
Nope
Darkrai
Didn't work
BlueRiver
also nope
Darkrai
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thinking_kiwi
well, @Amber seems like you will have fun with this month's opponent since no one was able to guess yet !! x'D
Bliss
@Its_Just_Me
THAT DIDN'T WORK lol

At least I have a good T4 weapon? lol
Darkrai
Didn't work
Bliss
@Its_Just_Me
I'll buy one. Let's see what happens.
It'll be fun trying to sell it xD
Petcollector
Does anybody have this to try?
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I really hope it isn't because of the cost, but it's worth a try if you have one, which I don't. :(
Damon
Nope
MonsterDrool
He doesn't like people hurting his friends maybe it has something to do with this?
The flavor text is interesting
Forj Ore

Forj Ore
Bliss
Nope
TamuriL_246
LoL ....

I really Love to watch the comments under these type posts ... of unlocking an opponent. ;)

I would guess.... RUST ... he would avoid rust at all costs. Soes mayhaps something rusty in your inventory? ....

like ... Rusty Horseshoes?
Bliss
@elka
It's on rofl
j/k
Muerte
They're not going to pick an act that some people cannot do to trigger a battle opponent.
Bocking users is not going to be the answer.
elka
@squiward weeeellllp lol can you tell her ill see her again in 24 hours, too kate hahahaha
see i knew -_-

fyi: also tried to play with s pet with the only toy that has the word bomb in it and that didnt work!
Bliss
@Squidward
:o
Thanks for the info
BlueRiver
nope
Darkrai
@elka @Bliss
There's a 24-hour wait to unblock someone again, just an FYI
Bliss
@elka
Try blocking and then unblocking me?
I'm down to try
jensen
Declassified SAI Documents

"A lot of the information on the pages within is blacked out, but some of them have the seal of the Chancellor! It seems like Mathis used to be some kind of explosives expert for the SAI." here's more lore, dunno if it's applicable p:

i dug out my
SAI Junior Agent Badge
(had it in inventory + wardrobe) but it didn't trigger anything.
elka
i highly doubt staff would make us block someone purposely just for an event, that's super awkward and opening a giant can-a-worms imo? but if y'all wanna try... hehe
Chocolate
Noooope
Chocolate
Nope
Laurey
@elka
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elka
finding a way to pick a fight with Vic since they're a thing? but i have nooooo idea how :/
something around those lines "something he tried to avoid all his life".... confrontation.... idk
Lantern
I love the idea of Mathis seeing someone hurt an animal and going complete John Wick on their ass.
Luck
ugh I love mathis. Unfortunately I didn't get to unlock him out of sheer luck this month :P We'll have to think harder!
Damon
XD we were all off
Laurey
I thought maybe something to remind him of his past with the SAI, since a lot of these challengers have been unlocked based on some traumatic experience.

But considering he still makes weapons and stuff, he doesn't seem to be bothered by that sort of thing.
Amber STAFF
@Jess omg you guys figure it out in like two seconds, not only that you come up with some really wild (and good!) ideas

IT MAKES ME VERY UPSET
Jess
@Amber If it's any consolation, it feels like an eternity to us :P
frafty
I forgot how sexy Mathis was until this and it's like bam. Talk about your Mr Pectacular
jKat
has a soft spot for cats... so maybe he avoids dogs???
MonsterDrool
His dialogue in the shop says "dont give me any of that pen is mightier than the sword nonsense.." Maybe books?

Plus he puts up the BEST shelves. (in dialogue above)

Ive never done any weekend challenger thing so I could be completely in left field.
Amber STAFF
@Laurey i swear to god if you guys figure this out fast i am going to SCREAM

Bug and i are trying to make at least one take ages for you guys to find SO FAR WE HAVE FAILED
Laurey
Loot spoilers (don't look if you want to be surprised)
His loot items are pretty cool, so hopefully we can figure this out quickly ~
Marlboro
Friends is one of the subjects..
So.. block someone? unfriend someone?
jensen
he seems like a decent fellow, i'd hate to fight him. but ya girl wants loot, so.
Chocolate
Hey! Fight me!

What we know - Subetapedia
Laurey
His Subetapedia info just to have listed here:

• Was a Special Ops Agent for SAI
• Is dating Victoria Ventura
• Has a soft spot for cats
• Sets aside time once a year to take Vic on a mountain retreat
• Is constantly having to shoo forj out of his forge

Not really much to go on. Hmm...

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