Snowball Fight Prizes
Dolly and I have finally put together all the prizes for our snowball fight. It wasn’t easy getting all the random melody items together, but we did it!
Are you curious to see what you got? Make sure to visit us to get your goods! You’ll be given your participation prizes, your team prizes if you threw enough snowballs, your super cool trow trophy, and if you were on my team you’ll get a cool winter background! The top 10% snowball throwers also will be awarded their cool achievement.
Hope everyone enjoyed the fight! Happy Luminiare. :)
Posted by [NPC] Tobias
IDK about anyone else..., so many people complaining about the prizes, but I am thrilled with my winnings! Two books, one of which was on my WL, two nice minions for my gallery and a food item my gourmand wanted! Not to mention an awesome background and the adorable sled. I'm totally satisfied.
The elephant in the room with events like this is auto-refreshers. This is the only game site of this type I know that doesn't ban them (yes, I know it's hard to enforce. So is the no under 13s rule, the no account sharing rule, no multiple accounts rule etc). I saw auto refreshers being openly discussed on the forums, tips on what websites or extensions to use, handy advice about how to get the best out of them (actual example: get up in the middle of the night when you've left it running to check you've not got the invalid hash error). This is why a prize shop on points would be inappropriate for an event like this, and why many people who worked hard had no chance of getting in the 10% - your frail human clicking finger was no match for tireless machines that played the game for people while they slept.
That said, I really enjoyed this event. The reward structure was clear so I could judge how much effort to put in, I thought the scoring system was fair, and I'm very happy with the prizes I got. Thanks Subeta!
That said, I really enjoyed this event. The reward structure was clear so I could judge how much effort to put in, I thought the scoring system was fair, and I'm very happy with the prizes I got. Thanks Subeta!
I'm still interested in seeing the team scores without the excluded users who threw 0-1 snowballs. I crunched some numbers (which can be seen on the 10% board in Site Feedback), and, in order for the top 10% (actually 13% according to Keith) to be 38,332 and above, over 60% of users had to be removed from the scoring.
Surely removing the scores of that many users would have really altered the scoreboard! Can we please see the revised scores, as they were judged?
Surely removing the scores of that many users would have really altered the scoreboard! Can we please see the revised scores, as they were judged?
Where can we view our trophies other than hovering over the HA and adding a thing to our profile?
I googled it but an old forum topic said they were called trophies a long time ago, and are 'now' called medals (but that was 2010), so now they are trophies again?
I googled it but an old forum topic said they were called trophies a long time ago, and are 'now' called medals (but that was 2010), so now they are trophies again?
Psyched to receive my Shiny Toy Sled! That's all I wanted haha o Melody prizes? Quantitatively weren't great, but I mean they were indeed "random retired Melody items," or whatever it was, so no complaints there! (:
And er, the overall scoring for the two teams was actually hella fair? Like... an average? Of total snowballs thrown? By the number of people in a team? Makes it really fair? Like...? Am I missing something? ( 1) "oh hey look at all those people and snowballs on team dolly I bet they're winning I'm going to join and do nothing and win yeah" 2) "oh hey look team tobias has a higher score i bet they're winning i'm going to join and do nothing and win yeah" 3) "oh hey look at all those news comments and forum posts making it very clear that team tobias is winning i'm going to join that team and do nothing and win yeah" )
Anyway, I just wanted to thank whoever made the scoring an average because it's a fair idea so yeah, //gives you cookies because all these complaints man.
(b/c more people able to contribute despite more snowballs needed thrown.. should.. even..things.. out? ideally of course, it depends on who actually contributes, but yeah, the premise is indeed fair?) <-- repeating what a few others have already said on this newsfeed, but wanted more positive feedback in this sea of complaints haha
And er, the overall scoring for the two teams was actually hella fair? Like... an average? Of total snowballs thrown? By the number of people in a team? Makes it really fair? Like...? Am I missing something? ( 1) "oh hey look at all those people and snowballs on team dolly I bet they're winning I'm going to join and do nothing and win yeah" 2) "oh hey look team tobias has a higher score i bet they're winning i'm going to join and do nothing and win yeah" 3) "oh hey look at all those news comments and forum posts making it very clear that team tobias is winning i'm going to join that team and do nothing and win yeah" )
Anyway, I just wanted to thank whoever made the scoring an average because it's a fair idea so yeah, //gives you cookies because all these complaints man.
(b/c more people able to contribute despite more snowballs needed thrown.. should.. even..things.. out? ideally of course, it depends on who actually contributes, but yeah, the premise is indeed fair?) <-- repeating what a few others have already said on this newsfeed, but wanted more positive feedback in this sea of complaints haha
I enjoyed this, but I think the complaints are valid... and those saying "try harder and don't complain" ...??? You probably used a refresh add-on. Fine, but when people who try to do it the real way can't throw 30k, don't be mean to them.
the prizes were already stuff I had? Didnt think much of this event but it is Christmas and most people were busy. Thanks for trying though.
Did someone really just complain that it's no fair that they took the dead weight out of the team roster for score calculation?? o.O Didn't everyone just spend a week griping that they better take the freeloaders off the numbers or else it would unfairly tilt the score??? v_v sigh
Yes, your X-XX thousand is impressive, but realistically I didn't even think my 40k would touch the top 10%! Looking at the forums in the first couple days there were people at 30k when I hadn't even hit 5k. All you had to do was visit a few threads to see whether you really stood a chance. I can't see anyone under 30k being upset because if you had checked, you would have known right away that less than that had no chance and you could have stopped trying or amped it up. I can definitely see those in the 30-38k range being upset, but at the same time, it is the same kind of upset anyone gets when they try their hardest and lose. It happens. It's not unfair, it's competition. AND, in this case, even the losers got their cookies :D So take a breath, have a drink (Milk if you're not legal), and enjoy your melody items. ^_^
My prizes aren't expensive. I threw that 10mil or so in snowballs into the event (thank you Saggi weekend) simply to try to keep team Tobias as far ahead as possible because I didn't know how the 'secret sauce' would be applied at the end and didn't want to leave it a close game. If team Dolly won I would be bummed out to miss that bg, but I didn't expect my 10mil to guarantee me a win. We can't all win, and the way it was set up, the people with busy lives were counting on teammates with less to do or auto refreshers to win the prize for them. Not ideal but you knew that was the setup.
Yes, your X-XX thousand is impressive, but realistically I didn't even think my 40k would touch the top 10%! Looking at the forums in the first couple days there were people at 30k when I hadn't even hit 5k. All you had to do was visit a few threads to see whether you really stood a chance. I can't see anyone under 30k being upset because if you had checked, you would have known right away that less than that had no chance and you could have stopped trying or amped it up. I can definitely see those in the 30-38k range being upset, but at the same time, it is the same kind of upset anyone gets when they try their hardest and lose. It happens. It's not unfair, it's competition. AND, in this case, even the losers got their cookies :D So take a breath, have a drink (Milk if you're not legal), and enjoy your melody items. ^_^
My prizes aren't expensive. I threw that 10mil or so in snowballs into the event (thank you Saggi weekend) simply to try to keep team Tobias as far ahead as possible because I didn't know how the 'secret sauce' would be applied at the end and didn't want to leave it a close game. If team Dolly won I would be bummed out to miss that bg, but I didn't expect my 10mil to guarantee me a win. We can't all win, and the way it was set up, the people with busy lives were counting on teammates with less to do or auto refreshers to win the prize for them. Not ideal but you knew that was the setup.
Complain? complain more!
When you in hard time, when you get crap prizes, remember,
I HAVE 38K
EXTRAS IN MY SHOP T_________T
When you in hard time, when you get crap prizes, remember,
I HAVE 38K
I enjoyed the snowball fight. I haven't been on Subeta that long but I like the prizes I got.
Oh man, I got unlucky with the random prizes and ended up with zero of the cooler Melody items even though I threw like 10k :c Oh well, maybe next time!
So please tell me how the main person, threw over 119k in snowballs. At 9 days with a 5 second delay, there is only 155,520 playable seconds. That means they slept for maybe 1 hour a day. I call BS on this whole thing... And if that was legit and thats the type of prizes the top players got I would be livid and demand a refund of the millions I put into snowballs.
I'm quite pleased with the turnout. I threw exactly 111 snowballs, got 5 Melody items (can't remember exactly which as some were food I fed to my Gourmand pet, but one was worth at least 1 mil), and happened to be on the winning team so I got the extra background and sled. Well worth it! Great job, Subeta team!
I knew there was no way I was getting any prizes for most thrown since someone topped 10K that second day or so. No sir, no time for that. Love the cute trophy though. The prizes were fine. I was worried that they would give the same melody items to everyone (as that was STATED as the prizes) and have the worth drop, glad to see it as a random thing. Yes, sucks for the people who threw a million, but at the same time, it was stated. Only expected to get the sled... glad I got the background, it's cute. SO HAPPY to see a work=actual winnings go around. SO much better than the "just join the most populated team" crap from the last game. How anyone can have any other view than that... after that fiasco is beyond me. Glad to see the prizes more evened out as well. Have to say although I was fine with the event prizes (got a background from my WL) I am looking forward to another event with a prize shop.... just because they're fun. Get on it Subeta. ;)
@Alenwen Thank you for reading it the same way I did! That's the way these things always are, a top group from each team, NOT combined! I wouldn't have spent so much and stayed on so long and tried so hard had I known it was combined, because all of the top throwers I knew (including my staff member friends, except one) were on the opposite team! What if 90% of the top 10% were on the same team? They really should have at least adjusted it to the top 20% if it was combined, which would also equal out the extremely fortunate untimed people with everyone stuck with both timers the whole time. (They could still go in and adjust it if they wanted it to be a bit fairer). I really don't think that people who invested the time, sP, and effort to throw 35K snowballs with both timers in place should be excluded (which I did NOT, by the way, lest people think that I'm saying this for my own personal benefit, which I'm not) should be excluded, while those who, as someone I saw put it, just "sat and mashed F5" for just a few hours ONE day should be rewarded! I genuinely believe that anyone who threw over 25-30K should be included.
@Passus no, we just needed to do THE SAME effort than toy team to win. The score was based on the average snowballs thrown by each member (total of snowballs divided by the number of members). Actually, that was way fairer than counting the total. Otherwise, only when there were like... 10 in one team and 30 members in the other, everybody would start to join the team with more members.
This event was really fun for the first couple of days. I didn't go crazy throwing snowballs... (500-600) maybe that's why I'm not too upset with the results. Also, I think it was clear that the prizes would be Melody items. That means they could have been really great or really not-so-great. I understood that. I wasn't expecting something grand. I would just like to see it shorter if it were to happen again.
This event was really fun for the first couple of days. I didn't go crazy throwing snowballs... (500-600) maybe that's why I'm not too upset with the results. Also, I think it was clear that the prizes would be Melody items. That means they could have been really great or really not-so-great. I understood that. I wasn't expecting something grand. I would just like to see it shorter if it were to happen again.
I went into this thinking I was coming out with a sled if my team won...so for me, the extra prizes (which some I already have) are like little bonus items ;) Thank you, it was a nice distraction. besides, I was really busy working, shopping and wrapping, etc. in RL, I didn't have time to throw thousands of snowballs at random people.
this seems like a waste and thank god i didnt bother throwing more than almost 200 snowballs (although, life got in the way more with that than me just thinking this was pointless. if i wasn't sick and spent more than just the 2 minutes it took to check melody I'd probably have well over 1k at least.
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but just. with how team dolly didnt win lbr, we had 888 more team players than toys. we even threw 1,638,582 more snowballs than them and still LOST by 86 points!! We (as a whole) had to work a hell of a lot harder while toys still won even with more than 1.5 million more snowballs thrown at them
in retrospect the way the point system was set up, it SEEMS fair but in all actuality this is... really disappointing and from my POV even the measly 200 i threw seemed rather pointless. Congrats would be in order if the numbers were closer and less of a the-more-we-threw-the-less-points-we-got, kind of feeling. i might be a poor sport for this but. yeah. this wasnt really worth it. :(
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but just. with how team dolly didnt win lbr, we had 888 more team players than toys. we even threw 1,638,582 more snowballs than them and still LOST by 86 points!! We (as a whole) had to work a hell of a lot harder while toys still won even with more than 1.5 million more snowballs thrown at them
in retrospect the way the point system was set up, it SEEMS fair but in all actuality this is... really disappointing and from my POV even the measly 200 i threw seemed rather pointless. Congrats would be in order if the numbers were closer and less of a the-more-we-threw-the-less-points-we-got, kind of feeling. i might be a poor sport for this but. yeah. this wasnt really worth it. :(
If possible, I wish an adm could answer:
Which criteria was used for the prizes?
I mean... I wanna know if any of those methods were used:
1) if (for example) between 2 of the most rare Melody items: item "A" still has 10 actives duplicates around Subeta (not counting collections, but possibly counting wardrobe) and item "B" has 100 duplicates, it means item "A" will be rewarded proportionally more than item "B" (10x more, actually);
2) just verified the most rare items and they were awarded randomly and in random amounts;
3) verified the most rare items and they were awarded randomly, but approx. the same amount of each item was released.
Which criteria was used for the prizes?
I mean... I wanna know if any of those methods were used:
1) if (for example) between 2 of the most rare Melody items: item "A" still has 10 actives duplicates around Subeta (not counting collections, but possibly counting wardrobe) and item "B" has 100 duplicates, it means item "A" will be rewarded proportionally more than item "B" (10x more, actually);
2) just verified the most rare items and they were awarded randomly and in random amounts;
3) verified the most rare items and they were awarded randomly, but approx. the same amount of each item was released.
I can't believe that the 10% starts at 38k when so many people just signed in and didn't throw alot of snowballs at all.
Also, the 10% has to be different for each team. The news said
Also, the 10% has to be different for each team. The news said
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which means 194 of team Tobias and 282 of team Dolly with a different minimum score.The top 10% of snowball throwers from either team will also receive a special achievement and title!
O_o I thought I'd be nice with 13k+ snowballs for the 10%, but 38k? That's insane!
I'm sad I wasted lots of sP throwing for cheap items and didn't get the special item
But also glad I didn't wasted more just for one item
I'm sad I wasted lots of sP throwing for cheap items and didn't get the special item
But also glad I didn't wasted more just for one item
O_o I thought I'd be nice with 13k+ snowballs for the 10%, but 38k? That's insane!
I'm sad I wasted lots of sP throwing for cheap items and didn't get the special item
But also glad I didn't wasted more just for one item
I'm sad I wasted lots of sP throwing for cheap items and didn't get the special item
But also glad I didn't wasted more just for one item
I got older melody stuff, but it was stuff I already had. Oh, well.
I'm ok with it since I can probably use it in galleries or treasures.
I'm ok with it since I can probably use it in galleries or treasures.
Really wished we'd known going in what the prizes were going to be because the three melody items I got were ones I could have bought myself and saved several MILLION SP. I wouldn't have taken part at all. How utterly disappointing that so little reward was given for so much time, effort and SP spent.
I had fun, and thanks for the items. I am still going to need that background at some point, lol.
I'm happy with my contribution because head, neck and shoulder problems don't allow for as much snowball chucking as I might want. :)
I'm happy with my contribution because head, neck and shoulder problems don't allow for as much snowball chucking as I might want. :)
This seemed like it was intended to be a small, easy fun kind of activity to me. I sympathize with people who threw thousands of snowballs with objective of getting in the top percent, but I don't think this was the event to really get your expectations high on.
Okay so, 13k+ snowballs thrown X 250 a snowball = more than 3 million sp.
Out of my 3 items, based on the current prices, I get: a Peppermint Coated Hosiery Box wearable that I'm a little iffy on for 100k, a Book of Ice (whoo books!) worth 700k, and a Reindeer Snowman minion that I don't really want but also doubt anyone will want to buy because the current price is 19 million.
Overall a pretty great investment if the reindeer snowman sells.
I have 2 regrets, one is that I didn't get into the top 10% but, uh. real life responsibilities, yeah. How the top thrower had over 100k snowballs at the end of this I will never know, especially considering most of my 13k came from the first day when it didn't have the 5 second per throw on it. And two is that I joined a team immediately when there were only like 20 people signed up instead of finding out the rules before I did. It's frustrating that even though Dolly's team threw what, one and a half million more snowballs than Tobias', we still lost. I understand the scoring system, but that doesn't make it less frustrating.
Out of my 3 items, based on the current prices, I get: a Peppermint Coated Hosiery Box wearable that I'm a little iffy on for 100k, a Book of Ice (whoo books!) worth 700k, and a Reindeer Snowman minion that I don't really want but also doubt anyone will want to buy because the current price is 19 million.
Overall a pretty great investment if the reindeer snowman sells.
I have 2 regrets, one is that I didn't get into the top 10% but, uh. real life responsibilities, yeah. How the top thrower had over 100k snowballs at the end of this I will never know, especially considering most of my 13k came from the first day when it didn't have the 5 second per throw on it. And two is that I joined a team immediately when there were only like 20 people signed up instead of finding out the rules before I did. It's frustrating that even though Dolly's team threw what, one and a half million more snowballs than Tobias', we still lost. I understand the scoring system, but that doesn't make it less frustrating.
Which retired Melody items did you actually think would be worth the effort of throwing thousands of snowballs? Reading this page of complaints is very tedious. Note to self: Click page off.
I threw 36k and my prizes weren't amazing. Was hoping for some really old melody not this years stuff. But I'm only sad I couldn't quite get that top tier. Congrats tobites!!
Just because Dolly had more member and threw more snowballs doesn't mean they should have won. It was an average of snowballs thrown per team member, take total # of snowballs thrown by a team and divide by # of members. Perfectly simple and fair.
Thank you for the items and trophy! I apologize for the complainers, can't please everyone but you did a good job!
Subeta's really got to work on it's scoring system. Wars like this should be all about numbers and Dolly's team threw more and had more members and yet we still lost to toys. :/ Don't really care about the prizes but at the same time, I feel like my efforts were wasted.
look at everyone complaining about the prizes when it said it would be melody items from the start
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Honest opinion? The prizes (I got something from THIS YEAR) were not worth the cost of the snowballs or the amount of time put into throwing the snowballs. The event dragged out. Good idea, poor execution.
We threw about a million more snowballs, and they get the background.
I personally threw 2,000 snowballs. I get three extra, uninteresting prizes, with two being food and one being hair that I would never wear.
....Yeah. That seems fair. Can't say I didn't see this coming, though. I never throw enough sP into events like this, and by the logic on my typical circumstances it only stands to reason that the one time I do, I don't get anything worthwhile for it.
I personally threw 2,000 snowballs. I get three extra, uninteresting prizes, with two being food and one being hair that I would never wear.
....Yeah. That seems fair. Can't say I didn't see this coming, though. I never throw enough sP into events like this, and by the logic on my typical circumstances it only stands to reason that the one time I do, I don't get anything worthwhile for it.
There was always an element of risk that you wouldn't get what you wanted, and I think that while it's too bad that you spent so much sP and didn't get an expensive prize, you did choose to throw without any knowledge of what you might get, besides the fact that they would be old Melody items.
Great event. Poor execution. The prizes were definitely not worth it. Maybe next time have 3 or 4 teams instead of just 2? Also did everyone get the same Melody items or were they random? Because mine were definitely not worth the trouble of all that snowball throwing.
Botanist, I totally agree with what you're saying. Very well said. :)