Vault Interest
Posted by Keith
@Archimedes oddly enough, those of us who do pull in a significant amount from our interest do/have work(ed) hard for the sP just like the rest of you. I highly doubt anyone relies solely on their interest, it isn't that brilliant, but it was a nice bit.
Glad to see the dislike of those with more is just as alive and well here as in the real world. Although, unlike in the real world, you do not simply inherit money, you have to work for it. I'm not going to sit here and apologize for having the sP I have because I damn well earned it playing this site every damn day for nearly eight years, and I have saved it, and I still make a point to make it.
Snide comments galore.
Glad to see the dislike of those with more is just as alive and well here as in the real world. Although, unlike in the real world, you do not simply inherit money, you have to work for it. I'm not going to sit here and apologize for having the sP I have because I damn well earned it playing this site every damn day for nearly eight years, and I have saved it, and I still make a point to make it.
Snide comments galore.
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That right there is a classic example of the rich get richer and the poor get poorer XP While it might be a nice motivation for a few people to spend real money here, it doesn't help the poorer players on here sP-wise. The poorer players just see their sP going down and the richer players' going up. It's the same in RL, too, but it'd be nice if there was one little place in the universe (even if it's fake!) that you can see more economical equality with sP earning XD The joys of questing help here, too! o.o runs off to questIF you think that bank interest is worthless, THINK again. SOME of us LOVE having large interest and it MOTIVATES us to spend real money here, to HELP this site keep going. I know I'm not the majority, but the majority has NO money to spend on CSC and you're just alienating those who DO have money.
If this were like a bank, they'd charge us for having too little in the bank, and for not withdrawing or depositing often enough. And possibly every time we withdraw from the bank. There might also be a limit on how often we can withdraw and the maximum amount we could withdraw.
I wish my bank was like the vaults. It's not like I get any interest irl anyway. that .01% or whatever adds up I guess.
I wish my bank was like the vaults. It's not like I get any interest irl anyway. that .01% or whatever adds up I guess.
Update #5 : All out war in the streets of Centropolis as the old folks start blocking the streets with barricades while the teens do nothing and stay at home to play Pirate Panic.
In the real world interest is ALSO given as an incentive for saving MORE so that the bank has MORE to invest in whatever it invests in. This is NOT the real world, and giving more sP to people who HAVE a lot of sP is NOT a bad idea, it's GOOD for incentive and motivation. I am more and more convinced that some people don't actually understand how the REAL world works and what makes it tick. Do you really think that people like Donald Trump would put their money into banks (and other investments) if the interest were NOT there as an incentive.
What "real world" are you living in, cause the one I'm living in is one in which I have been participating as part of the economy, and understanding how it works, since LONG before most people here were born (and some of your parents).
What "real world" are you living in, cause the one I'm living in is one in which I have been participating as part of the economy, and understanding how it works, since LONG before most people here were born (and some of your parents).
Keith
STAFF
@Cerredwyn I didn't say it was worthless, I said that it's generating sP without any other impact. We can keep sP from quests high because at least then you're moving sP around when you buy items from other users. Everything else has some kind of impact, except interest, where you just sign on and collect 300,000sP for having a large bank account.
I'm sorry if this choice pushes you to no longer spend money in the cash shop, but it's meant to help make sure that the sP you do have retains value.
I'm sorry if this choice pushes you to no longer spend money in the cash shop, but it's meant to help make sure that the sP you do have retains value.
News Flash update : Hundreds of users are fleeing Subeta every minute with their savings as the information hits like a shockwave.
"No more interest you say ? OK, I'm done! Come honey, grab the kids, the government is taking our 637 sP a day. I'M SO DONE WITH THIS PLACE"
"No more interest you say ? OK, I'm done! Come honey, grab the kids, the government is taking our 637 sP a day. I'M SO DONE WITH THIS PLACE"
I followed the discussion in the forum and I agree: very good decision. Now the rich(est) users have to work for more sp (and to stay the richest users) as well like everyone else. d^^b
Very well done!
Very well done!
What the real question here is why are we waiting so long to take out interest? what's 11 days going to get anyone?
Income taxes? We need a 9% business flat tax, 9% personal flat tax, 9% sales tax. It would simplify the economy dramatically.
Income taxes? We need a 9% business flat tax, 9% personal flat tax, 9% sales tax. It would simplify the economy dramatically.
First interest reduction, now nothing at all :(
And no payout from Battle Quests :(
How are we supposed to finance our pets' education!
You should rather do away with that obnoxious undeleteable Hustler bar!
Speaking of Morty Cards reminded me, that I haven't seen this event in ages, must have been removed long ago. Better put those cards to good use with the current inflation going on. Hilarious!
And no payout from Battle Quests :(
How are we supposed to finance our pets' education!
You should rather do away with that obnoxious undeleteable Hustler bar!
Speaking of Morty Cards reminded me, that I haven't seen this event in ages, must have been removed long ago. Better put those cards to good use with the current inflation going on. Hilarious!
The only time on subeta where I've had an insane amount of Sp to claim interests, I spent it all within the next 10 mins of getting it.
I remembered to collect interests maybe five times in 4 years otherwise lol
I remembered to collect interests maybe five times in 4 years otherwise lol
This is the most awful thing that I've EVER seen happen here. I almost completely stopped giving money to this website (buying cash) a couple of months ago because of a disagreement I had with staff regarding an item hunt and NOW I may completely STOP.
IF you think that bank interest is worthless, THINK again. SOME of us LOVE having large interest and it MOTIVATES us to spend real money here, to HELP this site keep going. I know I'm not the majority, but the majority has NO money to spend on CSC and you're just alienating those who DO have money.
The old folks here (at least some of us) enjoy seeing our interest go up. My interest was almost at 300,000 and now you're going to GET RID OF IT.
It's not well thought out, in my opinion, and NOT a very global way of thinking. Don't you want to keep ALL of your players happy, not just the teen to 20 somethings???? Most people I know who are in that age range don't know a THING about saving, so why would they care???? If ones bank account is the average size of the average user here (under 20 million) the interest is meaningless. But if your bank is in the billions it DOES have meaning.
You say there's no reason to give it--it's a reward for saving. If you think that's meaningless, so be it, but to some people it is NOT meaningless. I LOVE to save, I'm much older than most who play here. I don't do other things that young people enjoy doing (such as collect stickers and plushies--cause that is meaningless to me) I DO give generous gifts to my friends and having a big bank account helps me do that. Now I have very little motivation to continue saving.
Do you NOT want to keep things here so that there is "something for everyone." I doubt I'm the only rich subetan who's going to be upset by this. Some people are good at OTHER ways of making sP, and I'm good at saving. It's an important part of my income, and it was serving a purpose to help me with a goal.
I guess that means nothing, though. I thought it was already bad that my interest was only 3 percent, and that others, who played here longer, had higher interest, but I NEVER complained.
If you want to do something about interest, make it equitable, so that everyone gets the same amount, but PLEASE don't remove it. You're going to lose a good customer here. I might have "come back" to spending 50 US dollars a month here (out of my tiny income from disability) but NOW I never never never NEVER will.
IF you think that bank interest is worthless, THINK again. SOME of us LOVE having large interest and it MOTIVATES us to spend real money here, to HELP this site keep going. I know I'm not the majority, but the majority has NO money to spend on CSC and you're just alienating those who DO have money.
The old folks here (at least some of us) enjoy seeing our interest go up. My interest was almost at 300,000 and now you're going to GET RID OF IT.
It's not well thought out, in my opinion, and NOT a very global way of thinking. Don't you want to keep ALL of your players happy, not just the teen to 20 somethings???? Most people I know who are in that age range don't know a THING about saving, so why would they care???? If ones bank account is the average size of the average user here (under 20 million) the interest is meaningless. But if your bank is in the billions it DOES have meaning.
You say there's no reason to give it--it's a reward for saving. If you think that's meaningless, so be it, but to some people it is NOT meaningless. I LOVE to save, I'm much older than most who play here. I don't do other things that young people enjoy doing (such as collect stickers and plushies--cause that is meaningless to me) I DO give generous gifts to my friends and having a big bank account helps me do that. Now I have very little motivation to continue saving.
Do you NOT want to keep things here so that there is "something for everyone." I doubt I'm the only rich subetan who's going to be upset by this. Some people are good at OTHER ways of making sP, and I'm good at saving. It's an important part of my income, and it was serving a purpose to help me with a goal.
I guess that means nothing, though. I thought it was already bad that my interest was only 3 percent, and that others, who played here longer, had higher interest, but I NEVER complained.
If you want to do something about interest, make it equitable, so that everyone gets the same amount, but PLEASE don't remove it. You're going to lose a good customer here. I might have "come back" to spending 50 US dollars a month here (out of my tiny income from disability) but NOW I never never never NEVER will.
gdi, free sp is the best sp.
Curious to see what the Morty cards end up doing... Not enough to buy one or anything, just wondering.
Curious to see what the Morty cards end up doing... Not enough to buy one or anything, just wondering.
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Well, yeah, but by the same token our pets don't really get hungry and they don't really read books and so forth. Using the excuse that we're losing a feature because its only a virtualization of something that happens in the real world strikes me as silly.In the real world interest is given so that banks can invest your money and make returns, none of that is happening here,
It seems to me that the current interest was worthless anyway. It was all of, what, 2%? XD I'm looking forward to seeing what improvements are coming
News Flash : I may have overheard Titania Mc Gee say that the Mortyking that was fired after Keith's decision to remove vault interest is now making millions from the sale of Morty cards. This was his plan all along, and Keith working with him
I agree with someone else that it seems random and out of the blue for right now, and I was sad to lose bank interest, but after reading Keith's explanation I'm okay with it because I agree. I bought a morty card for 65k just now, and I highly doubt the purchase will be worth it, but I wanted to have at least one so I can try out whatever new comes of morty cards.
ah well! as long as their is a new way to get money, i don't mind!
and what are morty cards? i've been here almost 2 years and i don't remember hearing a thing about these! :S
and what are morty cards? i've been here almost 2 years and i don't remember hearing a thing about these! :S
I haven't had anything in my bank for years due to trying to get taxed, and now that I've finished that achievement and have money in my bank again, I never remember to collect interest. /shrug I should've bookmarked the direct collection link on my list of dailies, oh well!
Fair enough. I was thinking about how I wouldn't mind seeing it go just recently. It's not like it's a real bank; we don't have to have everything real banks have.
watch the morty cards soar :D
well, this was coming for some time. goodbye, precious 30-35k every day. single tear
well, this was coming for some time. goodbye, precious 30-35k every day. single tear
jesus, morty cards used to be treated like junk, now they're at, what, 60k+? guess i'll have to do without my daily 100k then. figured it kind of acted as a reward for me managing to get the amount of sp i have, not so much 'free sp' (even if that's what it is, i guess, somewhat).
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Well, sure, why don't you take all your money out of your bank then if it's useless ?Why have a bank if you don't get interest? Bad call.
Sebastian Phoenix be like :
Daww, I was always happy to see my interest increasing, but okay. I'll try to remember to fetch the income of my pets instead.
most of the time i did forget to cash it so maybe the ohter ways of getting something will be interesting :)
TODAY IT'S BANK INTEREST THAT GETS REMOVED, TOMORROW IT'S INCOME TAXES THAT GETS ADDED. WE KNOW YOU KEITH. WE KNOW YOUR PRIVATE ISLAND PLANS
Well that escalated quick. Morty Cards were 500 sP before people read the news… Then BAM 6K in ten seconds flat. Managed to grab a few but for the most part that's insanity at it's finest. There's still roughly two weeks before the update takes place and the full details of this change have yet to be revealed. 😂
Why would the bank vault get the interest taken away?? seems a bit out of the blue to me but then again i don't get half of the things that get changed
Keith just trying to make it impossible to make money on the site. I GUESS I'll just have to start questing or playing games. ):