Stick it to the Man!: Pronoun Stickers
Posted by [NPC] Rumi
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@Daneyule Users can't delete news comments. Most of the offensive ones were deleted by staff
Can you create some backbone stickers next for the spineless souls who delete their comments after nobody agrees with their poor justifications for hating preferred-pronoun pixel-stickers on a virtual pet site? The comment section doesn't even make sense by the time I get to read it, because half of the OP's & their replies are missing. RIP. ?
PS: maybe add "subeta is owned and operated by a super gay man and all of his LGBT+ sidekicks" as a disclaimer on the account creation page. Somehow, it's almost 2020 and people still pretend like they're unaware that this website is the virtual equivalent a gay bar. And y'all just let anyone in - no cover charge, armbands, nothin' ???
PS: maybe add "subeta is owned and operated by a super gay man and all of his LGBT+ sidekicks" as a disclaimer on the account creation page. Somehow, it's almost 2020 and people still pretend like they're unaware that this website is the virtual equivalent a gay bar. And y'all just let anyone in - no cover charge, armbands, nothin' ???
@Umbrella Nitpick.
People who are antisocial (including people with ASPD, psychopathy, sociopathy, but also including people who are just ... kinda destructive, without having a full-blown personality disorder) are not against SOCIALISING (the intransitive verb, which means to engage with other people). (Extreme introverts and people who are on the spectrum sometimes are opposed to doing much socialising, but that's a different thing entirely.)
I mean--they are involved in gang life, and big business, and politics, and law. All those things that successful antisocial people do--and there are actually a lot of them--require the ability to schmooze.
They are, however, impossible to SOCIALISE (the transitive verb, which takes an object). One socialises one's children. One socialises rescue animals. One attempts to socialise a person with malignant sociopathy. But one fails.
People who are antisocial (including people with ASPD, psychopathy, sociopathy, but also including people who are just ... kinda destructive, without having a full-blown personality disorder) are not against SOCIALISING (the intransitive verb, which means to engage with other people). (Extreme introverts and people who are on the spectrum sometimes are opposed to doing much socialising, but that's a different thing entirely.)
I mean--they are involved in gang life, and big business, and politics, and law. All those things that successful antisocial people do--and there are actually a lot of them--require the ability to schmooze.
They are, however, impossible to SOCIALISE (the transitive verb, which takes an object). One socialises one's children. One socialises rescue animals. One attempts to socialise a person with malignant sociopathy. But one fails.
people actually thinking my comment asking for bottom stickers was serious? wig. people saying it was transphobic to joke about it rn? i'm scalped and my skull is showing. gurl this is pixel stickers on a goddamn pet site, this isn't an lgbt rights assembly. idk how yall can treat this like something that matters. anyway i'm going back to existing in a country where i won't be allowed to have children because i'm trans :^) but at least i'll have subeta stickers to soothe my pain, thank god!!! thanks for protecting this!! it means so much omg bless yall
@Umbrella, I agree with what all you said, but there is a difference between psychopath and sociopath. "Psychopathy can be thought of as a more severe form of sociopathy with more symptoms. Therefore, all psychopaths are sociopaths but sociopaths are not necessarily psychopaths. According to the Society for the Study of Psychopathy, psychopath traits include: Lack of guilt/remorse."
I don't care what kind of junk you have or want to have or who you like to rub your junk on. I just want stickers.
@youngexplorer That wasn't Nietzsche. That was John Lydgate, made famous by Lincoln.
@youngexplorer That wasn't Nietzsche. That was John Lydgate, made famous by Lincoln.
Thank you for continuing to be inclusive to ALL of your patrons. This is another example of why this site continues to be amazing.
Merriam-Webster actually added a fourth definition of “they” to their dictionary recently.
4 - used to refer to a single person whose gender identity is nonbinary
The grammar snob defense is a bit behind the times to say the least.
4 - used to refer to a single person whose gender identity is nonbinary
The grammar snob defense is a bit behind the times to say the least.
As both trans and interested in the BDSM lifestyle, I think both sides are in the wrong. It's hardly transphobic for people to (jokingly or not) suggest top/bottom/Dom/sub, it is however wildly inappropriate for a PG-13 site. If I saw a minor toting a "bottom" sticker in their forum signature, I would block them on grounds that they're openly stating their preferred sexual dynamic/position and if that doesn't sound uncomfy, well...
Unrelated note:
@Umbrella There are differences between "psychopath" and "sociopath" even if they aren't official. I'd give it a goog - simply "sociopath vs psychopath" - because there's a plethora of sites and YouTube videos on it. They're not mutually exclusive but there are some things to separate the terms!
Unrelated note:
@Umbrella There are differences between "psychopath" and "sociopath" even if they aren't official. I'd give it a goog - simply "sociopath vs psychopath" - because there's a plethora of sites and YouTube videos on it. They're not mutually exclusive but there are some things to separate the terms!
WOOOOOOOO. Comment section on fire. So I’m going to shoot my shot, bros.
As a grammar nerd, they/them ticks my brain but I’ve been trying to practice using it to get more comfortable. I still like the less common Zir/Xer. Regardless, language changes to fit the needs of the people speaking it. Facts.
While I’m taking usage I want to raise my biggest pet peeve: Antisocial.
Antisocial means that you are ACTIVELY AGAINST socializing. People who are “psychopaths” are antisocial. People who merely don’t like to be social are ASOCIAL.
Thank you for reading. Please remember asocial vs antisocial.
Bonus word facts: Psychopath and sociopath mean the same thing because they are used colloquially so the meanings are flexible. Neither is an actual diagnosis.
As a grammar nerd, they/them ticks my brain but I’ve been trying to practice using it to get more comfortable. I still like the less common Zir/Xer. Regardless, language changes to fit the needs of the people speaking it. Facts.
While I’m taking usage I want to raise my biggest pet peeve: Antisocial.
Antisocial means that you are ACTIVELY AGAINST socializing. People who are “psychopaths” are antisocial. People who merely don’t like to be social are ASOCIAL.
Thank you for reading. Please remember asocial vs antisocial.
Bonus word facts: Psychopath and sociopath mean the same thing because they are used colloquially so the meanings are flexible. Neither is an actual diagnosis.
@Benzin I mean, you could have backed off and apologized to us trans Subetans, but instead you decided to double-down and insist that your transphobia was "just a joke" and that we're all "sensitive" for it. Nah, it was just bog-standard transphobia and you're getting the exact response you deserve for it, hope that helps!
YES. This is AWESOME. Thank you~! -^ w ^-
Grabs both the they/them and he/him stickers and wears them proudly
-' w '-
Grabs both the they/them and he/him stickers and wears them proudly
-' w '-
Darn it, my tablet changed "these" to "thsee" and I didn't catch it until I already hit post. FML. :(
Anyways, thanks to staff for adding these!
Anyways, thanks to staff for adding these!
Protip to everyone: This is not the place or time to ask for your kink titles. Your kink title and our pronouns are not comparable whatsoever and it is false equivalence to even deign to bring those things up in a conversation about pronouns. We still get murdered for using pronouns people like @Xena don't think we should use: that is not at all, in any way, shape, or form comparable to what you want to be called in the bedroom, thanks.
TL;DR: Do not bring up kink titles in a conversation about not misgendering people, you look like creepy wanklords
TL;DR: Do not bring up kink titles in a conversation about not misgendering people, you look like creepy wanklords
Protip to everyone: This is not the place or time to ask for your kink titles. Your kink title and our pronouns are not comparable whatsoever and it is false equivalence to even deign to bring those things up in a conversation about pronouns. We still get murdered for using pronouns people like @Xena don't think we should use: that is not at all, in any way, shape, or form comparable to what you want to be called in the bedroom, thanks.
TL;DR: Do not bring up kink titles in a conversation about not misgendering people, you look like creepy wanklords
TL;DR: Do not bring up kink titles in a conversation about not misgendering people, you look like creepy wanklords
slaps 'she/her' on left cheek, 'he/him' on right cheek, and 'they/them' on forehead
Thanks <3
Thanks <3
@Desilyna Oh, don't worry, I'm not angry. Honestly? I was just totally baffled that somebody saw my dumb joke post as being serious. Although if you spend a lot of time on facebook as you said, I suppose that does make more sense. Either way, if you were, as you said before, just joking as well, then I don't understand why you @'d me. But I feel perhaps we're getting a bit off topic at this point.
@cAIn, Ooorrr, it could mean that I was skimming through the over 150 comments, and I saw a comment with someone correcting someone about the spelling of grammar, and they spelled it wrong. I see that kind of thing all the time on Facebook, and the people are 100% serious. So without knowing you and without reading the entire back and forth conversation, it's impossible to know that you're joking. But there's no reason to get angry with me over it.
tbh stickers like these are so boring, we need more cute subeta pet stickers, like of cybills and mallarchies :(
@Desilyna
I should certainly hope you were joking, because the alternative would mean you actually believed for a second that I think not only can't spell "grammar", but that I'd also go out of my way to try and make others spell it wrong, too. And honestly that's a level of willful chaotic ignorance that's a bit beyond even myself.
I should certainly hope you were joking, because the alternative would mean you actually believed for a second that I think not only can't spell "grammar", but that I'd also go out of my way to try and make others spell it wrong, too. And honestly that's a level of willful chaotic ignorance that's a bit beyond even myself.
I read through all the comments, and I see a lot of people who are angry about hateful comments, but I don't even see any. Were they deleted? I saw one person wrote "Yikes", and one person said that in our English language we use "they" or "them" when referring to more than one person, which is correct grammar.
claps for Valiska speaking the truth
I've also blocked a fair number of people due to this, but in all honesty I do agree with User not found: loten that the staff need to watch news posts more carefully and do more than just a warning. I have also noticed it's the same people pulling this kind of stuff over and over again (and you can see the repeated behavior in their forum posts and user comments, where available to view publicly from their profiles) and I have no idea why those people haven't already been banned.
I've also blocked a fair number of people due to this, but in all honesty I do agree with User not found: loten that the staff need to watch news posts more carefully and do more than just a warning. I have also noticed it's the same people pulling this kind of stuff over and over again (and you can see the repeated behavior in their forum posts and user comments, where available to view publicly from their profiles) and I have no idea why those people haven't already been banned.
Yay for new stickers!
Now everyone can go hang out in the sticker shop! All day and all night! You MUST get those stickers 0_0 Just exit the Grooming Parlor in an orderly fashion and run right over there! You don't need those new DipDye box things anyway. Your hair looks fantastic as is! Just concentrate on the pretty new stickers :D nothing else matters!
Yay stickers!
(Pssst...buy extra ones for me that I can buy from you later :D)
Now everyone can go hang out in the sticker shop! All day and all night! You MUST get those stickers 0_0 Just exit the Grooming Parlor in an orderly fashion and run right over there! You don't need those new DipDye box things anyway. Your hair looks fantastic as is! Just concentrate on the pretty new stickers :D nothing else matters!
Yay stickers!
(Pssst...buy extra ones for me that I can buy from you later :D)
Here's the thing that I don't get.
Why do some of you feel a deep, desperate need to know whether every single person you encounter has a penis or a vulva? Why are you so concerned about this that you demand everyone else label themselves in accordance with their genital configuration, even if it causes them immense pain and suffering to do so?
Unless I'm feeling some sort of potential romantic or sexual interest in another person, this information is not relevant to me, and it is not actually my business even then unless the other person feels like telling me.
I was assigned female at birth. I am a girly girl and I like being a girl, but I am aware that my experience, while common, is not universal. But even as a cis person, I'm not really comfortable with the idea that the frilly dresses I like to wear and the pronouns that suit me are meant to tell you what I probably look like with my clothes off, rather than how I identify, how I feel, and what I like.
You wouldn't demand that I pull down my underwear and show you what I've got if we'd just met, so why do you think that people's pronouns and names should automatically convey this personal information?
Why do some of you seem to think that you need to know who in the room has a penis and who doesn't, regardless of how recently you've met them, even if they're five years old? It's not your business, you don't have a right to know this, and it really shouldn't affect how you deal with other people. Why do you care so much? What are you scared of?
Call people what they want to be called because it's the right thing to do, full stop.
And stop speculating about whether or not they have "enough" gender dysphoria to justify their pronoun preferences and style of dress. A decent person who is not actually someone's doctor, nurse or therapist should only care about another person's dysphoria because it's painful, and the right thing to do with someone that you know has dysphoria is to treat them politely and not make it worse than it already is.
If you aren't living inside of someone else's skin it's not your place to tell them who they are and who they have to be.
(If you are living inside of someone else's skin, you are probably a fetus and I'd like to know how you are reading this.)
Why do some of you feel a deep, desperate need to know whether every single person you encounter has a penis or a vulva? Why are you so concerned about this that you demand everyone else label themselves in accordance with their genital configuration, even if it causes them immense pain and suffering to do so?
Unless I'm feeling some sort of potential romantic or sexual interest in another person, this information is not relevant to me, and it is not actually my business even then unless the other person feels like telling me.
I was assigned female at birth. I am a girly girl and I like being a girl, but I am aware that my experience, while common, is not universal. But even as a cis person, I'm not really comfortable with the idea that the frilly dresses I like to wear and the pronouns that suit me are meant to tell you what I probably look like with my clothes off, rather than how I identify, how I feel, and what I like.
You wouldn't demand that I pull down my underwear and show you what I've got if we'd just met, so why do you think that people's pronouns and names should automatically convey this personal information?
Why do some of you seem to think that you need to know who in the room has a penis and who doesn't, regardless of how recently you've met them, even if they're five years old? It's not your business, you don't have a right to know this, and it really shouldn't affect how you deal with other people. Why do you care so much? What are you scared of?
Call people what they want to be called because it's the right thing to do, full stop.
And stop speculating about whether or not they have "enough" gender dysphoria to justify their pronoun preferences and style of dress. A decent person who is not actually someone's doctor, nurse or therapist should only care about another person's dysphoria because it's painful, and the right thing to do with someone that you know has dysphoria is to treat them politely and not make it worse than it already is.
If you aren't living inside of someone else's skin it's not your place to tell them who they are and who they have to be.
(If you are living inside of someone else's skin, you are probably a fetus and I'd like to know how you are reading this.)
Sooo when I first saw this news post it had less than 10 comments. Sure blew up! I'm cis but I see literally nothing wrong with these. We can never have enough inclusive content.
I can't remember who said something about people referring to themselves as "they/them" but I feel obliged to point out that nobody refers to themselves as "they/themselves"... I believe the correct term is "myself" and everyone uses it regardless of gender so... where's the problem ¯_(ツ)_/¯ In fact, anyone using they/them or a neopronoun might not even be around to hear it part of the time it's being used - it's for _other people_ to use when referring to that person.
I think I counted 3 haters and 2 hate-defenders, but it's great to see they're severely outnumbered.
I can't remember who said something about people referring to themselves as "they/them" but I feel obliged to point out that nobody refers to themselves as "they/themselves"... I believe the correct term is "myself" and everyone uses it regardless of gender so... where's the problem ¯_(ツ)_/¯ In fact, anyone using they/them or a neopronoun might not even be around to hear it part of the time it's being used - it's for _other people_ to use when referring to that person.
I think I counted 3 haters and 2 hate-defenders, but it's great to see they're severely outnumbered.