Dance Groups!
Get ready to revolutionize your Masquerade experience! I'm excited to announce our brand new Dance Groups system - a new way to dance, chat in the forums, and collect those sweet sweet dances with your fellow Subetans!
Dance Groups are regular forum threads at their core, but with a special live chat component that refreshes automatically (like the shoutbox). It's still just forum posts under the hood - but with real-time events to keep the conversation going.
These dances are on a separate timer from the legacy site so you're only increasing the tokens you're bringing in ๐
We're also hoping that seeing those familiar avatars in your dance groups reminds you to say hi to friends and feel a little like you're hanging out together. The social connections are what make these events special! Leave that profile comment, say hi to your online friends!
NPCs will activate their powers when paired, and they might even leave to join other groups - so you'll need to experience different groups to see all the abilities!
Just a little bit of personalization ๐จ
This system is currently in testing phase, so timing and features may be adjusted based on your feedback.
๐ค How It Works
Join a dance group and let the ๐ค Auto Dancing Machine do the work! Every 5 minutes, the robot automatically pairs up two participants who haven't danced yet, ensuring everyone gets equal opportunities for tokens - even when you're offline ๐ซจ!Dance Groups are regular forum threads at their core, but with a special live chat component that refreshes automatically (like the shoutbox). It's still just forum posts under the hood - but with real-time events to keep the conversation going.
These dances are on a separate timer from the legacy site so you're only increasing the tokens you're bringing in ๐
- Fair pairing system ensures everyone gets their turn
- Real-time group chat to connect with fellow dancers
- Participate in up to 3 dance groups (5 for Gold members!)
- Groups need at least 10 people to keep things exciting
๐ฏ The Goal
This system is designed to help everyone participate in Masquerade events, especially those who can only pop online for a few minutes at a time. You can still collect tokens and stay connected with your group even with a busy schedule, which I know is where most of us are these days.We're also hoping that seeing those familiar avatars in your dance groups reminds you to say hi to friends and feel a little like you're hanging out together. The social connections are what make these events special! Leave that profile comment, say hi to your online friends!
โจ Special NPC Guests
Dancing NPCs may join your groups and bring magical powers:- โก Speed Boost: Reduces machine intervals from 5 to 4 minutes
- ๐ฅ Group Dance: Enables threesome dancing with 3 participants
- ๐ Lucky Charm: Reduces breakdown chances and improves repairs
NPCs will activate their powers when paired, and they might even leave to join other groups - so you'll need to experience different groups to see all the abilities!
๐ง Machine Maintenance
Sometimes the Auto Dancing Machine breaks down and needs fixing! When this happens, group members work together to repair it. Don't worry - it's just a simple button click, but it keeps groups active. The bigger the group, the more people will be needed to fix the ๐ค.๐๏ธ User Popover Improvements
Speaking of seeing friends - we've made some exciting improvements to user popovers based on your feedback! You can now:- Choose between hover or click activation at your popover settings
- Customize your popover background color on the same page - this is how other users will see your popover!
Just a little bit of personalization ๐จ
๐ฏ How to Join
Ready to start dancing? Here's how:- Visit the Masquerade Forum on Kumos
- Look for topics marked with โช Dance Group
- Join an existing group or create your own!
This system is currently in testing phase, so timing and features may be adjusted based on your feedback.
Posted by Keith
Load this on Kumos site
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Actually is this because I wasn't chatting? I don't normally chat much, including while dancing actively. I've been quite active on the site, using all three options we have for dancing as well as working on my wardrobe and wishlist and repeatedly checking in on my cosmetics. It's not like I wasn't on the site, or even like I wasn't on kumos.
I'm gonna come back to mention this, as well. I'm in one group that's quite small. When I look at the numbers....
707 dances...
668 dances...
619 dances....
54 dances...
50 dances...
I'm the one with 54 dances, and I was the second person to join the group, with it being just me and the OP for a while. (OP is the one with 707 dances.) The distribution of dances is very definitely not equal.
707 dances...
668 dances...
619 dances....
54 dances...
50 dances...
I'm the one with 54 dances, and I was the second person to join the group, with it being just me and the OP for a while. (OP is the one with 707 dances.) The distribution of dances is very definitely not equal.

@Soleta I have the same problem - I lost track of which groups I was in. I'm still getting dances but can't find which thread it's coming from, and now there are so many, it's buried in the mix. There should be some sort of notice linking to any dance group you've joined, just as point of reference on being able to get back to it later. @Keith

How do you CONTINUE to dance in your group? I auto did 41 and now it's stalled and I don't see an option to continue in this group. The other members have 100+

I like the dueling but i've both won and lost to Boudewijn countless times now and the relevant achievments remain unachieved??


I'm sad to see complaining here about this new feature! I'm having fun. I like the duels. Someone shared below a hack to avoid them if you want (hit the 'back' button) but it makes it interesting. I am sad the dance machines aren't breaking down anymore. I don't get notifications anymore anyway. It was the only way I could find the groups I'd joined, and it was fun too. Now I have no idea how to find them. But I like this way of gaining tokens.
I have a ton of steamworks tokens, but as someone else said, if you have too many, donate them! Either to users in need or to the donation shop. I just donated 30 bags of tokens this way! I would love for this feature to be used at New Years, when I have a harder time gaining tokens due to the holidays. THAT would be amazing!!!
I also really appreciate that some of this is happening on Kumos. I admit I don't really like the site too much yet, but I've enjoyed the duels, dance groups, and being able to accept 10 dances at a time. It's nice to feel more natural about using Kumos in this way, beyond the wardrobe. This is a great way to get users used to using Kumos and to help with the transition. Great idea!!
Anyway, I just wanted to share some positivity. I'm really enjoying the new features. Thank you!
I have a ton of steamworks tokens, but as someone else said, if you have too many, donate them! Either to users in need or to the donation shop. I just donated 30 bags of tokens this way! I would love for this feature to be used at New Years, when I have a harder time gaining tokens due to the holidays. THAT would be amazing!!!
I also really appreciate that some of this is happening on Kumos. I admit I don't really like the site too much yet, but I've enjoyed the duels, dance groups, and being able to accept 10 dances at a time. It's nice to feel more natural about using Kumos in this way, beyond the wardrobe. This is a great way to get users used to using Kumos and to help with the transition. Great idea!!
Anyway, I just wanted to share some positivity. I'm really enjoying the new features. Thank you!


This is a wonderful idea for those of us who have no time to participate normally. However I do want to add to the current comments that a way to know wich groups you joined would be nice as the notif for the dance bot breaking gets lost in the notifs for all the dances you do and one of the groups I have joined has been 'broken' for 2ish days I think because I guess the other dancers didn't keep a tab open or missed the notice that the dance bot was in need of repair.


@hannahharmin Dance groups are signaled though! Look for those with a musical note!
If you were talking about knowing in which ones are you dancing atm, I agree, a was to know in wich groud are you dancing would be appreciated.
If you were talking about knowing in which ones are you dancing atm, I agree, a was to know in wich groud are you dancing would be appreciated.

I love the dance groups but the dueler guys HATES me. I had to do like 4 duels in the span of 5 mins or so ;_;

I love the idea of the dance bots. It's a great way to dance and accumulate trinkets when you are not on the site. As for them breaking down....It's a fun aspect but if you don't have enough active participants in the group it just sits there. One could jump into another group but then there's no way of knowing which forum posts are dance groups and the time needed to go through the posts really can be frustrating.
I love that we are still able to ask users to dance on our own and mystery dance while the bots are working.
I love that we are still able to ask users to dance on our own and mystery dance while the bots are working.

Can we please PLEASE get Boudewijn as a challenger in the Battle Coliseum? I NEED to beat him up x.x
Well, either that or reduce that timer to something like 5 minutes and not 15 minutes because I keep losing to him...
Well, either that or reduce that timer to something like 5 minutes and not 15 minutes because I keep losing to him...

As much as I like this new features I'm very sick of the Boudewijn guy and having to duel every dance I get. I was thinking about leaving the dance group that I'm in because the Boudewijn guy is super annoying.


Looks like this might be down right now? Came online after a few hours to no dances for the first time since it launched, and when I go to any thread on the forums I get the “ Oops! Something went wrong” kanis
TIP to avoid Boudewijn:
If you have more than 10 dances waiting, accept all 10, then on the duel screen hit the back button in your browser. This will avoid the duel, and Kumos will properly update your dance count. This allows you to accept 10 a time and no need to deal with Boudewijn. I blasted through 50-something this morning and it worked perfectly.
If you have more than 10 dances waiting, accept all 10, then on the duel screen hit the back button in your browser. This will avoid the duel, and Kumos will properly update your dance count. This allows you to accept 10 a time and no need to deal with Boudewijn. I blasted through 50-something this morning and it worked perfectly.

you know what would redeem this event??? just turn it into some plot where the main challenger, Boudewijn, is finally defeated and we dont have to lose out. Most of my battles with him have been at a loss and honestly, what's the point? Holiday events are suppose to be fun and the aspect of battling isn't necessarily bad but the fact most of us have more loses than wins speaks a lot! at least a petty prize or some achievement???? I like to be upbeat and positive but im feeling discouraged atm...


Today, in my extremely busy life, I had about 5 minutes to check this site, catch up on dances. Saw I had 10 dances.
Go to clear dances but instead got this duel, which is just a rock paper scissors game with no skill, just pure random.
Lost of course, got told I was ashamed, and told I couldn't accept my dances for 15 minutes.
I genuinely have no idea what you guys are going for with the duel feature but it does not pair well with autodance. Just my feedback.
Go to clear dances but instead got this duel, which is just a rock paper scissors game with no skill, just pure random.
Lost of course, got told I was ashamed, and told I couldn't accept my dances for 15 minutes.
I genuinely have no idea what you guys are going for with the duel feature but it does not pair well with autodance. Just my feedback.

A new project, does this mean you've finished literally any other project or aspect of kumos? Or perhaps this one will be completed to fruition before the next one is begun?

@Archmage Considering that neither of us, when it comes down to it, has nothing more than anecdotal backing for their views, it's sill to keep arguing about something like this. I will not stop dancing, regardless of the trinkets, because I love the social aspects of all of Subeta's events! The smelting idea is a good one, I'd vote for it!

I can't get any of the dance group links to load. I get an error every time.
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@Lawnbuddha I am a somewhat active, but mostly casual player and I'm nowhere near "thousands of trinkets ". Also I don't consider my trinkets to be "largely useless". If you don't like to have "thousands of trinkets" just donate it, problem solved, if anything I'd gladly take the extra trinkets anyone may have and find to be useless. lol
The idle-dancing is here to help the casuals and people with little time to play and get trinkets, if that's not you and you already have enough trinkets, you don't need to participate. It is possible for you to deal with your excess currency without devaluing other people's currency, inflation is never a solution.
Perhaps making special currency smeltable would be a better fix for the very active users who somehow have thousands of trinkets laying there after buying the whole shop, including consumables/books for all their pets multiple times.
The idle-dancing is here to help the casuals and people with little time to play and get trinkets, if that's not you and you already have enough trinkets, you don't need to participate. It is possible for you to deal with your excess currency without devaluing other people's currency, inflation is never a solution.
Perhaps making special currency smeltable would be a better fix for the very active users who somehow have thousands of trinkets laying there after buying the whole shop, including consumables/books for all their pets multiple times.

Still getting an ungodly amount of duels ๐ฉ Yesterday I could ignore them and click "return to Masquerade" and keep dancing, but today I'm getting challenged on every single dance again. I feel like there's no escape from Boudewijn ๐

@Archmage - absolutely that's what I'm suggesting, as I see users starting to pile up thousands of trinkets that are largely useless once everything has been purchased in the two shops. I completely understand your desire for that not to happen. I think this should be opened up to a larger discussion and/or vote.


@AUXIN Thanks for the link, this option got me no duels 100% the times :D
@Lawnbuddha Are you suggesting they inflate the prices, nullifying the benefits of the new idle dancing feature, making it a must-do if you don't want to fall further behind in currency as now everything is more expensive? Also causing people to feel like they need to expend all their saved currency before the inflation happens, thus stocking everything like it is toilet paper a few years ago? Because if that's what you meant by the cost going up accordingly... No, just no. Inflation sucks lol
@Lawnbuddha Are you suggesting they inflate the prices, nullifying the benefits of the new idle dancing feature, making it a must-do if you don't want to fall further behind in currency as now everything is more expensive? Also causing people to feel like they need to expend all their saved currency before the inflation happens, thus stocking everything like it is toilet paper a few years ago? Because if that's what you meant by the cost going up accordingly... No, just no. Inflation sucks lol

I'm going to copy-paste what I wrote in the forums:
I like the new Kumos Masquerade dancing pages... but ain't the popups during the duels on top of the dialogues redundant? They're saying the same things.
https://i.imgur.com/KuOYyQp.png
I like the new Kumos Masquerade dancing pages... but ain't the popups during the duels on top of the dialogues redundant? They're saying the same things.
https://i.imgur.com/KuOYyQp.png


Still haven't had a single machine break in any of my 5 groups - I guess it's been over 24 hours. That's a nice thing to keep people busy in some way after all and should be kept, just not happen too often.

i dont like the battle segment for the dances as it said i lost and went empty handed. not fair and not very inviting, actually gives me anxiety with what i pick. prior to that it was fine system..and i dont like being re-directed to kumos either. i avoid it when im on my mobile.

I guess I'm just failing at this. My dancing isn't showing. I have no requests on Kumos. It keeps telling me I have 0 minutes. What the heck am I doing wrong?




does anyone know if there's any downside to accepting dance invites one-by-one on non-kumos subeta - apart from it being time consuming obviously, i mean does bulk accepting through kumos give out more trinkets overall or anything like that...?
at this point i'd honestly rather do manually than dueling with boudewijn after every dance ;-;
i'm enjoying the dance groups & auto-dancing besides that though, i think he just needs.... tuning.... a lot of tuning
at this point i'd honestly rather do manually than dueling with boudewijn after every dance ;-;
i'm enjoying the dance groups & auto-dancing besides that though, i think he just needs.... tuning.... a lot of tuning

we left a dance group to join a different one, but for the past 2 hours kumos has said we are still 3/3 even though we double checked we had left the first group.
anyone else having this issue?
anyone else having this issue?
This has been a great way for me to get more trinkets, but the broken duel system is SUPER annoying. I click on one weapon and it chooses another. I constantly lose and have to wait which again is annoying. And even if you manage a win you don't get any of the achievements!!! or even just a simple prize. Get rid of Boud whatever and make them a challenger instead!!!

Auuuugh, it's just contant error messages trying to get into the forums. Anyone know a workaround or if this is being fixed?

Duels aren't fun anymore, I hope it gets adjusted and fixed soon. I've just been ignoring them at the moment. They don't stack, do they?
Well, now I know you can dance with NPCs through these groups, just got one from Melody. I wonder which NPCs are currently available and if more will be added. It would make sense to add the Yun Enterprises NPCs if they're not there already.
Well, now I know you can dance with NPCs through these groups, just got one from Melody. I wonder which NPCs are currently available and if more will be added. It would make sense to add the Yun Enterprises NPCs if they're not there already.

Small update to my last post - just lost duels 4 times in a row. Really kinda wish there was some kind of "mercy" mechanic after a certain point lol

Duel Shame Timer,
i am tired of get this event three times in a row, just let me dance alone.
i am tired of get this event three times in a row, just let me dance alone.

