Community Guidelines
We\'ve just launched our Community Guidelines to the site. You have to agree to them before you can view any part of the site where you can leave a comment, so make sure to read through them!
Over the years, we\'ve had a more laid back approach to the site, and we\'ve noticed that sometimes things can get heated. We love the passion and commitment to the site. However! We\'re all here to have a good time and get away from the real world and should never feel attacked or harassed for our opinions.
If you break the guidelines the user administrators can restrict your access to that feature until you read and agree to the terms again, and after that we\'ll start giving you increasing time bans from that area of the site. We will also start removing posts that go against these guidelines (some of the comments in the Shinwa revamp post are great examples of this).
Remember the golden rule and you\'ll be fine! Also, any time we make changes to the community guidelines, you\'ll be asked to agree again.
Posted by SubetaTeam
stars_water
I'm kind of wondering if any part of that exchange that I was having with someone on Shinwa's revamp would have been considered against the community guidelines. I'd expressed my opinion against the new revamp and got some unwanted beef for it. It really ticked me off. -.-
@ChibiStraws
You're acting the same way I am so nope. Try again.
It's like two brick walls talking to each other at this point. I'm not here to try and change your mind. You can't change mine.
I'm going to agree to disagree.
You're acting the same way I am so nope. Try again.
It's like two brick walls talking to each other at this point. I'm not here to try and change your mind. You can't change mine.
I'm going to agree to disagree.
I've never had an issue with someone on here being mean or rude. So its hard to really get that they exist. These seem pretty fair and reasonable...something we all learn when we are in school as kids. Shouldn't be hard to follow :)
@Tobiko
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Mean and petty? That sounds like a personal attack to me. ;DI honestly don't understand what part of "don't be an asshat" is hard to grasp/makes people fear for their freedom on this site. Are you that mean and petty on here normally?
I honestly don't understand what part of "don't be an asshat" is hard to grasp/makes people fear for their freedom on this site. Are you that mean and petty on here normally? Because if so, yeesh.
I don't understand why people are so freak about this. The rules are simple, don't be an ass to people. You can still have an opinion on everything, just be adult about it and treat people like you want to be treat. Simple.
You can still say: "i don't really like this drawing that much. Something is a off for my taste". What you cannot saiy: "yuck, that is so horrible, I hate it so much. Did you actually expect me to like that!?! You suck!" There is a big difference between those!
You can still say: "i don't really like this drawing that much. Something is a off for my taste". What you cannot saiy: "yuck, that is so horrible, I hate it so much. Did you actually expect me to like that!?! You suck!" There is a big difference between those!
I think this is perfectly reasonable, honestly. There has been too much drama associated with this site, people losing their crap over one thing or another or targeting other users and its time to transition into a better place for everyone.
Thank you for the guidelines. :)
Thank you for the guidelines. :)
@Gracie2484
The confirmation comes in tbe form of being able to post again - you're good! ;)
The confirmation comes in tbe form of being able to post again - you're good! ;)
Will an undertaking be given to ban or remove the right to report from users who make malicious and frivolous reports of 'harassment' and 'bullying' under the new guidelines?
Will those cases be handled by user admins who are not listed as friends of either party involved?
Will those cases be handled by user admins who are not listed as friends of either party involved?
Not sure if this was mentioned but I clicked all the boxex and agreed but didn't get any confirmation response.
Finally, the people making rude comments to people who complain on news posts have something to complain about themselves
@ren
Act and I shall assume.
Also, no. As I said, a person needs to take responsibility for their own emotions an reactions, an apparently outdated notion. I've had people tell me "Wow, your drawings suck!"
My response? "Wow, you're an ass!"
Simple as that.
Act and I shall assume.
Also, no. As I said, a person needs to take responsibility for their own emotions an reactions, an apparently outdated notion. I've had people tell me "Wow, your drawings suck!"
My response? "Wow, you're an ass!"
Simple as that.
@ChibiStraws- I was meaning in general.I put that in there because I couldn't think of anything else mean to say.lol I know you didn't say that and I wouldn't begin to say you did. :)
So really, there's only one rule. Don't be an asshole. Just because you have one, doesn't mean you have to be one, people! ;)
Could you guys add an option to completely block (can't see/post) the news comments section? Please ~
Why didn't y'all also give out An Idiots Guide to Constructive Criticism again?
I mean if we're going to do things on the site because people get their feelings hurt over comments on an NPC revamp, might as well give that book out as a free gift.
I mean if we're going to do things on the site because people get their feelings hurt over comments on an NPC revamp, might as well give that book out as a free gift.
Is it really that hard for people to not be complete arses? These guidelines don't seem unreasonable at all :/
There is a fine line between "Your drawing is ugly, seriously. I can't pay for it" and "I'm sorry, it's not to my liking. Is it possible to modify or find a common ground?"
Pls.
Pls.
@Konijntje I don't believe I put a "you suck" in therw, I was pointing out that people don't need to flip out when they're criticized- it's childish. And needing soothing after every criticism is even mioreso.
Good guidelines. Thank you for reminding us. Some of us were getting too snarky at times.
Freedom of speech is the political right to communicate one's opinions and ideas. The term freedom of expression is sometimes used synonymously, but includes any act of seeking, receiving and imparting information or ideas, regardless of the medium used.
Governments restrict speech with varying limitations. Common limitations on speech relate to libel, slander, obscenity, pornography, sedition, hate speech, incitement, fighting words, classified information, copyright violation, trade secrets, non-disclosure agreements, right to privacy, right to be forgotten, public security, public order, public nuisance, campaign finance reform and oppression. Whether these limitations can be justified under the harm principle depends upon whether influencing a third party's opinions or actions adversely to the second party constitutes such harm or not.
Governments restrict speech with varying limitations. Common limitations on speech relate to libel, slander, obscenity, pornography, sedition, hate speech, incitement, fighting words, classified information, copyright violation, trade secrets, non-disclosure agreements, right to privacy, right to be forgotten, public security, public order, public nuisance, campaign finance reform and oppression. Whether these limitations can be justified under the harm principle depends upon whether influencing a third party's opinions or actions adversely to the second party constitutes such harm or not.
@ChibiStraws
Way to assume my age.
You don't have to like everything. That's fine. But you're literally choosing hurting someones feelings over evaluating how you say something.
Way to assume my age.
You don't have to like everything. That's fine. But you're literally choosing hurting someones feelings over evaluating how you say something.
Not that I ever say a drawing is awful just because I think it is, I think people can keep that to themselves, but the point is, a person does not owe a "poor darling, let me make you feel better" after every opinion.
Then wouldn't the best thing to say be "I don't like it " instead of " It's awful,you suck"?
Overall, a good set of simple common-sense rules. However, I believe the phrase “freedom of speech†only applies to freedom from government persecution, is incorrect. Please read ammendment I of the constition and reword it.
We have repeatedly voiced our concerns that the guidelines are too vague and unclear for every admin to be able to apply the guidelines consistently between them.
Nothing has been done to address that concern.
Nothing has been done to address that concern.
@ren Sometimes a drawing is awful for the simple reason that a person doesn't LIKE it, and as a member of the self-entitled generation, you seem blind to that fact, as well as the fact that people do not OWE other people anything, including explanations as to why they won't like them and give them those lovely little words that seem to make most people feel their life is worthwhile nowadays.
wonder how many people just agreed to them to keep having access vs those that actually read them
@ChibiStraws
Um, no.
What about the drawing is awful? THAT is how you can be helpful. By explaining what parts need improvement and what the artist can do to make it better.
I'm sorry you just refuse to dig deep and try to help an artist and instead choose to be a jerk.
People need to take responsibility for their own emotions and reactions?
How about you take responsibility for your words and accept that maybe it's you who needs to change.
Um, no.
What about the drawing is awful? THAT is how you can be helpful. By explaining what parts need improvement and what the artist can do to make it better.
I'm sorry you just refuse to dig deep and try to help an artist and instead choose to be a jerk.
People need to take responsibility for their own emotions and reactions?
How about you take responsibility for your words and accept that maybe it's you who needs to change.
I think some people are confusing the rules in thinking that they are saying you can't have negative opinions when I think that the rules are saying that your opinion doesn't have to be voiced in a way that is rude and vulgar and hurtful and over the line. Again, I guess I'm just old-fashioned.
I'm sorry @ren, but I just had to laugh at "instead they can be helpful and encouraging."
Yes, there are times when that helps. But I really seriously wonder when telling a person the truth became a reason for said person to flip out and demand valification of their self-worth.
I mean, going "this drawing turned out awful, sorry." is not bad, it's an opinion. And someone does not need to scramble to provide an ego-soother after everything they say.
People need to take responsibility for their own emotions and reactions, too.
Yes, there are times when that helps. But I really seriously wonder when telling a person the truth became a reason for said person to flip out and demand valification of their self-worth.
I mean, going "this drawing turned out awful, sorry." is not bad, it's an opinion. And someone does not need to scramble to provide an ego-soother after everything they say.
People need to take responsibility for their own emotions and reactions, too.
Uhoh anon site that shall not be named what will most of the submissions be about now? Anyway, I'm assuming that you can still be free to speak as long as you're not being ignorant toward another user and/or a bully. Because I can def guarantee I will have opinions within my own profile (that don't attack other users) Lol :)
you can be honest without being an asshole. example: "those pants seem to be a bit small, maybe try a bigger size?" vs " omg those pants make you look like an ugly ass fat whale, you cow"
it means be respectful...jeeze even my 5 year old gets that concept
it means be respectful...jeeze even my 5 year old gets that concept
Whatever happens don't let us get as restricted as Neopets is. If I come on here one day and suddenly can't say uncle or something, then I'll feel we have a serious problem.
This is a really great way to see the kind of users we really have on Subeta, just based on those who feel that these rules "silence" them.
Like if you're being that much of an asshole so often that you feel you can't say anything at all anymore then you're probably one of the reasons we now have these rules.
I think they're all pretty reasonable rules. I am a bit concerned over the "anything else" bit, because I like rules to be very "it says right here exactly that this thing you're doing is against the rules". So the vague ones like that sort of make my stomach twist, but I'm sure if something under the "anything else" bit becomes a regularly occurring issue then another rule will be added specifically about that problem?
Like if you're being that much of an asshole so often that you feel you can't say anything at all anymore then you're probably one of the reasons we now have these rules.
I think they're all pretty reasonable rules. I am a bit concerned over the "anything else" bit, because I like rules to be very "it says right here exactly that this thing you're doing is against the rules". So the vague ones like that sort of make my stomach twist, but I'm sure if something under the "anything else" bit becomes a regularly occurring issue then another rule will be added specifically about that problem?