Summer is Here!











Have you been waiting for an item from a particular season from the Millionaire Center? Maybe a specific book two seasons away? Well now you can buy items from the off-seasons though for a higher price.
The Millionaire Center is now separated into five tabs, one for each season and one tab for year round items. You can buy items from the current season for the normal sP price tag or buy something from an off-season for 125% its normal price. For example buying a Balrog Sticker, which is a Fall item, will cost you 1,250,000 sP if you buy it outside of Fall. The year-round, such as the Darkmatter Potion or Lizard Minion Trap, have their own tab and are priced normally.
The Scale of Red Rreign has been taken out of the Millionaire Center for a short period of time until the Battle Admins get a chance to rework it. It’s been strongly advised to use any red rreign scales you have now. Keep an eye out for a news post bringing it back in the coming weeks!
Remember the time limit between purchases in the Millionaire Center is one hour now! :)







The Summer Sphinx Relief is a collection that lets you choose one summer sphinx themed item from within! Just like last season, if you can figure out the riddle regarding the trinket you will get a cool item. In this case, if you can figure out the riddle and fulfill the requirements of the Summer Sphinx Trinket, you’ll receive a Summer Sphinx Pauldron!
The scroll’s riddle is part of a larger riddle that will involve every season. :)










The Quest Givers are in the summer spirit, are you?
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I'm happy that all the items are in there now. That's a really good step, considering how scarce some of them were. I think 25% is a pretty small penalty, though. I was expecting more like 50 - 100% extra. Guess I can't complain too much, though!

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^^^ this
The price for off season items should at least be a lot more than a mere 25%. This was done for a reason, so not everything is available all the time and there's a little incentive to to the game - just a wee bit of waiting is necessary for the seasons to spin. While I approve of the antique shop, providing everything sells at a really high price, I don't condone the give everybody all they want within the wink of an eye policy. At the same time I guess you're ruining people's shop profits more and more every day with actions like this. There is no free market any longer, Subeta dictates prices.
It's one thing to offer them for a slightly increased price, but 25% is nothing for an item from the Millionaire Center in an off-season. This kills free market, and all the users who (quite intelligently!) bought extras during the actual season to resell during the off-season.
@introvert
This site would be a disaster if staff gave users everything they wanted.
And yes, you can get off-season foods irl for more money, but they're also cheaply manufactured versions of the real thing. Have you had strawberries out of season? They're disgusting and full of preservatives, which would be a HILARIOUS thing for Subeta to incorporate (hinthint maybe with the Hustler) to provide bad knockoffs of the real items during the off-season instead of the actual items.
Besides that, you can't compare the irl economy to subeta's economy to make an analogy anymore, because this one is super broken and REAL economy is not a seller's market alone. For the subetan economy to be similar to the real -somewhat working- economy, they would have to factor in a buyer's market. The buyer is not factored into the subetan economy at all, when buying from user shops.
tl;dr subetan economy is broken and configured differently from the real economy so you can't really make exact analaogies

I find it ridiculous that people here argue with "this is ruining prices for sellers"... Millionaire Center Items aren't everyday business anyway and there are thousands of other high-price items you can sell. Also, selling something off-season for 300% of the original price and up (way, way up in some cases) is not really a business that needs to be held up.
Furthermore, presenting the whole thing above as "ruining the economy" is just plain wrong. It may be ruining your personal prices for some items, but now way more money will be going into the sp sink that is the MC, and we're always looking out for sp sinks, aren't we?
I think this is best to be seen not as a higher price off-season, but a seasonal discount that you get when you buy in the right season, and I can absolutely live with that.
Furthermore, presenting the whole thing above as "ruining the economy" is just plain wrong. It may be ruining your personal prices for some items, but now way more money will be going into the sp sink that is the MC, and we're always looking out for sp sinks, aren't we?
I think this is best to be seen not as a higher price off-season, but a seasonal discount that you get when you buy in the right season, and I can absolutely live with that.




Thank you so much for pleasing the masses! ;)
There are so many nice things to buy I'm getting overwhelmed!
There are so many nice things to buy I'm getting overwhelmed!


The price for off season items should at least be a lot more than a mere 25%. This was done for a reason, so not everything is available all the time and there's a little incentive to to the game - just a wee bit of waiting is necessary for the seasons to spin. While I approve of the antique shop, providing everything sells at a really high price, I don't condone the give everybody all they want within the wink of an eye policy. At the same time I guess you're ruining people's shop profits more and more every day with actions like this. There is no free market any longer, Subeta dictates prices.



@Luthien
"Just because a lot of people want something though, doesn't mean it should be given."
uhm except that's how you kinda please the masses? this is a business, first and foremost.
If your customers aren't happy, then you're not going to have any customers.
Or you know, if you want an item out of season, like watermelon in the spring instead of summer, you pay more for it from the store. Oh look, 125% for the off-season items in the MC? That makes TOTAL SENSE. (Like why would I buy watermelon from a shady dealer in the ally for $6 when I can get it for $2.50 from the grocers?)
"Just because a lot of people want something though, doesn't mean it should be given."
uhm except that's how you kinda please the masses? this is a business, first and foremost.
If your customers aren't happy, then you're not going to have any customers.
Or you know, if you want an item out of season, like watermelon in the spring instead of summer, you pay more for it from the store. Oh look, 125% for the off-season items in the MC? That makes TOTAL SENSE. (Like why would I buy watermelon from a shady dealer in the ally for $6 when I can get it for $2.50 from the grocers?)
I LOVE YOU.
I LOVE THIS.
I LOVE THAT YOU DONT HAVE TO WAIT UNTIL NEXT YEAR TO GET AN ITEM IF YOU MISSED IT
I LOVE THE ENTIRE SPHINX THEMED ITEMS LINE (is there going to be a fall and winter collection as well? i hope! :D )
I LOVE THE QUEST ITEMS
I LOVE YOU.
I LOVE THIS.
I LOVE THAT YOU DONT HAVE TO WAIT UNTIL NEXT YEAR TO GET AN ITEM IF YOU MISSED IT
I LOVE THE ENTIRE SPHINX THEMED ITEMS LINE (is there going to be a fall and winter collection as well? i hope! :D )
I LOVE THE QUEST ITEMS
I LOVE YOU.
Yeah I agree a bit, I don't like that the items aren't actually "seasonal" now. There was a fun sort of excitement in the rotation of items and seeing the shop switch out and now that's kind of been killed and for me takes a lot of fun out of the MC.

Amber
STAFF
@Luthien This is also something Ariel and I were planning to do for some time. For users that aren't patient enough to wait until the season to get items they need (books, minions, whatever), then they can pay a bit of extra sP for it. I think it's a little silly that items that were like 1mil were going for like 20mil in user shops :p

I just wish the new items in quests shops were marked somehow, either at the top or bottom or highlighted the 1st day they're added. It's hard trying to figure out what's new and what isn't. Thanks for the new items! Feeling summery now. :)

"if you can figure out the riddle and fulfill the requirements of the Summer Sphinx Trinket, you’ll receive a Summer Sphinx Pauldron!"

Hot sausage, that's a sexy piece of armour!
Hot sausage, that's a sexy piece of armour!
I am really happy to see Millionaire Center items back in there year round, though I'll be waiting until fall to get my Millionaire Center trading card.

Just because a lot of people want something though, doesn't mean it should be given. :/
More of a singular item on-site will drop the value. That's what I'm saying.
@introvert
Yes, it's smart to wait for it to come in-season, but that's how seasonal items work. If you want them out-of-season, you're either going to buy them from someone who purposely held onto them because they were supposed to be a "limited" item. That's kind of the point of being a shop owner.
More of a singular item on-site will drop the value. That's what I'm saying.
@introvert
Yes, it's smart to wait for it to come in-season, but that's how seasonal items work. If you want them out-of-season, you're either going to buy them from someone who purposely held onto them because they were supposed to be a "limited" item. That's kind of the point of being a shop owner.

i may just be totally missing it, but i can't find the 'beneath the waves' book under the summer tab... is it missing? or do i have to buy another item and transform it into this one?




@Luthien So people actually sinking the sP out of the system is hurting the economy? I don't get it?
Also, if you're buying off-season items for double or triple the price from resellers, you're economy-ing wrong.
Also, if you're buying off-season items for double or triple the price from resellers, you're economy-ing wrong.

question: I bought a spring sphinx relief but I didn't open it and take the item that allows you to solve for the wearable bow item. Is it too late to do that? From what I read the riddle had something to do "with the season" so I'm not sure.
I love the new Mil Center update, but I agree with the statement about seasonal items being hurt by this change.
I personally think the seasonal discount (which it now effectively is) is an okay way to do it - why not?
@luthien
Lol no it won't - it'll help the economy because people will buy it from the MC and sink sP if user prices are too high. People still have the option to wait and for the more expensive items 25% extra is a bit increase, users can still sell for a profit if they've hoarded something.
Lol no it won't - it'll help the economy because people will buy it from the MC and sink sP if user prices are too high. People still have the option to wait and for the more expensive items 25% extra is a bit increase, users can still sell for a profit if they've hoarded something.




Not to mention, this will drive down the prices of the out-of-season items, which will hurt the economy even more.

I didn't understand the riddle thing so guess I won't be bothering with those items. But this is great, having the different seasons available. Thanks.




Is the ability to put an alert gone? I just bought something but I wasn't given the text to set an alert to buy again. Is it possible for that to come back?