Millionaire Center: Whiteout Pens
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Valiska
@Kaiidth Ah, when I've tried to commission those, people have told me they won't do it but not said that it was a rule.
I want animal-evolved but not fur-covered semi-digitigrade legs and feet with claws and no tail; I also want a thylacine butt but they had long, slender tails. They were marsupials and had thin, muscular tails with short fur. There is nothing in the thylacine evolutionary pathway that would give you a giant plush tail you could stick flowers in. I've never understood what the issue was, because sure it won't cover the HA base, but that doesn't mean you can't put something under it that will!
If they'll let us do it now because these background-killing abominations exist, so be it--there are better ways to fix that problem, though.
I want animal-evolved but not fur-covered semi-digitigrade legs and feet with claws and no tail; I also want a thylacine butt but they had long, slender tails. They were marsupials and had thin, muscular tails with short fur. There is nothing in the thylacine evolutionary pathway that would give you a giant plush tail you could stick flowers in. I've never understood what the issue was, because sure it won't cover the HA base, but that doesn't mean you can't put something under it that will!
If they'll let us do it now because these background-killing abominations exist, so be it--there are better ways to fix that problem, though.
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Valiska
@Kaiidth was there a reason we couldn't before, other than artists not wanting to do them? Because frankly, most people that use booties do use backgrounds, and there was never ever anything stopping us from layering them on top of items like skirts, then putting shorter skirts, long coats, etc, on top of them.
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Hosui
Wardrobe usage aside, I actually think the item image/name they went with is clever and super creative. I'm gonna have to get for my crafty themed pet's treasure chest. For all those times they've tried to draw a figure and went, wait no that's not right, and had to erase.
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Darkrai
There's not a way to make parts of the HA base actually transparent unless they split the base up into pieces that can be hidden behind backdrops or release pieces like the sheer gloves that could replace individual HA parts
With regards to the thumb, unless a piece of clothing (mainly skirts or repositioned/animal limbs) already covers the HA's left hand, the thumb is always going to show because clothes have been drawn around the hand with the way the HA base works (and even with a different workaround that doesn't create the white space, there will at least be a hole in the clothing where it was drawn around the thumb). There are limitations with the way HAs work that there may not necessarily be an elegant fix for at this point
With regards to the thumb, unless a piece of clothing (mainly skirts or repositioned/animal limbs) already covers the HA's left hand, the thumb is always going to show because clothes have been drawn around the hand with the way the HA base works (and even with a different workaround that doesn't create the white space, there will at least be a hole in the clothing where it was drawn around the thumb). There are limitations with the way HAs work that there may not necessarily be an elegant fix for at this point
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Valiska
@Moran I'm hosed because I always, always, always use backgrounds except when it's Masquerade and the coding that suppresses them on the dance floor is not working.
But there are items that cover the hand (which is why we have those "sheer gloves") and any of those would cover the thumb notch.
But there are items that cover the hand (which is why we have those "sheer gloves") and any of those would cover the thumb notch.
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Moran
I wanted to make a HA with the missing arm but sadly the thumb shows over the clothes and that looks really weird. :c
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thercery
These need some work, definitely, but I'm so thrilled by the prospect of what it indicates about what you're prioritizing with HA's. I so.appreciate that you're indulging users that love to get experimental with layering and backdrops!
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feral
I'm really hoping this is just a temporary fix for a problem that staff has hinted will have a fix in the next wardrobe for.
If this is the 'solution' we've been told to wait for... This is just incredibly limiting and disappointing. These can definitely be used while we wait, but I hope a real solution IS in the works.
If this is the 'solution' we've been told to wait for... This is just incredibly limiting and disappointing. These can definitely be used while we wait, but I hope a real solution IS in the works.
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cherub_730
i get the use for these, and as much as i'm always wanting to get rid of limbs-
i feel that maybe instead of hiding limbs this way, as they won't work on anything with a bg, could the base not simply be snipped into seamless, separate parts that are able to be toggled off and on in the wardrobe? like hiding layers in a drawing program. it wouldn't require a base redraw at all, and from a technical angle it seems like it wouldn't be that hard to implement (although admittedly being that i'm not a coder, i don't actually know if that's true)
i feel that maybe instead of hiding limbs this way, as they won't work on anything with a bg, could the base not simply be snipped into seamless, separate parts that are able to be toggled off and on in the wardrobe? like hiding layers in a drawing program. it wouldn't require a base redraw at all, and from a technical angle it seems like it wouldn't be that hard to implement (although admittedly being that i'm not a coder, i don't actually know if that's true)
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Porygon
Kudos to people who have figured out uses for this, I sure haven't. My biggest complaint is that it looks sort of messy. Especially the thumb left over. Like, couldn't it have just been completely erased and the base redrawn in that tiny spot? Though I suppose it could be noticeable if they did that in itself.
Anyway, it's great for people who are gonna figure out how to use it, just not something for me. :smile:
Anyway, it's great for people who are gonna figure out how to use it, just not something for me. :smile:
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Luck
Maybe it's because I just woke up but I'm utterly confused on how you're meant to use these. Can anyone do an example? All I see are giant white blobs that are very out of place now that subeta stopped doing cutout backgrounds.
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Crab
absolutely overjoyed by these, especially the feet ones! looking forward to having some time in the wardrobe to play around with them c:
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Bliss
I don't think I can use these. I'm interested in seeing what the more creative people will do c:
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Eivor
None for the head? Bummer. I have no idea how I'd use these but with Morostide coming up, I'm sure someone will figure out a really clever way to use them.
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Dice
Kinda disappointed there isn't one for the head. I'm sure I'll come up with a use for these some day.
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Empathy
? Thank you, Subeta, now all I’m gonna think about at work today is how I’m gonna use these. Seeet idea.
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Ryuu
Shoes feel a bit too tight?
Jacket just not fitting right?
I've got the solution to your plight!
Let's start by cutting off your limbs tonight! :D
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The things people do in the name of fashion on this site. hahaha.
& thanks for making them millionaire center items so that everyone has a fair shot at editing the base~ ♥️
Jacket just not fitting right?
I've got the solution to your plight!
Let's start by cutting off your limbs tonight! :D
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The things people do in the name of fashion on this site. hahaha.
& thanks for making them millionaire center items so that everyone has a fair shot at editing the base~ ♥️
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Tex707
*Panics over what I could use these for* I know the possibilities are endless, but what!? My imagination is imploding. :smile:
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Latreia
Can we also have a version that white-outs the awkward fabric between the legs, please? These look useful and I need to think how to use them all lol.
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Valiska
@Linnet That may be so, but I'm not sure that, for instance, if I wanted to use cat legs that weren't accompanied by an incredibly unrealistic tail almost as wide as my head, that having white blobs over the background behind those legs would be any better than having the HA base legs show.
(I really want cat legs without a giant tail. But people don't want to make them even if you explain that you understand perfectly that they won't cover the HA base legs, which is why you're going to layer a long skirt, coat, cape or bustle without cutouts behind the cat legs.)
(I really want cat legs without a giant tail. But people don't want to make them even if you explain that you understand perfectly that they won't cover the HA base legs, which is why you're going to layer a long skirt, coat, cape or bustle without cutouts behind the cat legs.)
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Nerds
I'd like to see one for around the head. I'm tired of having cool hair that sticks out from under a hat
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Maniac
i'm kinda losing my mind from the idea of cutting off my arm or foot to replace it with some fancy expensive cw, like that sounds more outrageously rich than anything saggi ever pulled lmao
but i'm never gonna use that because i don't like white bgs. idk why they can't just give you an ability to replace your actual base / remove it entirely atp
but i'm never gonna use that because i don't like white bgs. idk why they can't just give you an ability to replace your actual base / remove it entirely atp
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Linnet
I think the things y'all are requesting would require a rework of how the entire avatar system works from the ground up.
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Jinx
Like the idea of just cutting off the avatar's toes for whatever reason. It's been kind of hard to make amputee avs in the past so I genuinely appreciate these but forever laughing about cutting off the toes.
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Valiska
This is not a good solution for the problem that it seems to have been intended to fix. :(
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Memorv
I am somewhat excited about these items but also a bit disappointed. I use Custom CSS with a dark BG so it wouldn't look right for me and those who use it as well. Also disappointing that it would still not look right on HAs with backgrounds. I agree with Sigilmancy on this one. And while i am excited for these items it would be sooo much better to be able to have the option to make them totally transparent. It would be nice to be able to remove the base in wardrobe altogether as well without having to use Vanishing Cream. Maybe in the future.
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Darkrai
Thank you! I can't remember what I needed something like this for, but I'm sure they'll come in handy next time it comes up :')
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Sigilmancy
@Werewolf
I know, it's just....eh. Like the original whiteout item is solid white, so if I want to have a background on my avatar I can't use it. Same thing goes for these because they are solid white blobs, I already did some testing in the wardrobe with my current HA. Sucks because I like the idea of being able to 'erase' certain parts of your avatar but it just doesn't work well in the case of existing items.
I know, it's just....eh. Like the original whiteout item is solid white, so if I want to have a background on my avatar I can't use it. Same thing goes for these because they are solid white blobs, I already did some testing in the wardrobe with my current HA. Sucks because I like the idea of being able to 'erase' certain parts of your avatar but it just doesn't work well in the case of existing items.
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demon
@Sigilmancy sadly i dont think that's possible ): i'd love it we could erase avatar parts too, but with how body mods use excess fabric to hide the avatar i think it might be a technical limitation. with you on it though, it'd be rad for it to truly erase the avatar, since i rarely use backgrounds
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Werewolf
@Sigilmancy I don't believe that's possible with how HAs work, they don't modify the actual avatar base. The Whiteout and Vanishing Cream both are actually solid white, too.
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Sigilmancy
I appreciate these and trying to stay close to the original whiteout item but honestly they would be 100% better if they were see through or generally erased that part of the avatar instead of replacing it with a white blob. Makes it a bit useless if you want a background with your avatar, like the original whiteout item ):
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pax
I'm a little bothered about the still showing part of the avatar's thumb, but I suppose that part of the HA is very hard to "whiteout" without unfortunate side-effects when it comes to layering.
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Ligress
o_0 Im not sure how these will be useful, but now I need to figure out why I need them (bc i need everything) LOL
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Rabbit
Ooooooooooooh this is going to be so useful for those tricky angles.
We can all feel not so good now, Mr.Krabs, one limb at time.
We can all feel not so good now, Mr.Krabs, one limb at time.
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