Longcat is GONE. It has been removed from the site, and Draconis has taken it's place.
I'd like to take this time to issue an apology to you, the users. In the past month we have been handling a situation with multiple sites, over a silly 64x64 canvas filled with pixels. This was known to all of us as Longcat, and wasn't an important item on the site.
The item caused confusion, and most of all it caused controversy on Subeta, as well as outside of Subeta. We kept fighting for Longcat and Subeta in hopes that it would protect the users, and make Subeta appear strong, and able to find off any attack. Whatever you've been told, keeping Longcat was never about pride, it was about keeping the site safe from internet terrorists now, and in the future.
We weren't aware of the ability of one item to take down multiple fan-dedicated sites, and cause a legion of internet users to attack Subeta and it's users, not only on Subeta, but on other sites. We asked all users to change passwords, and make changes to their internet lives that could have been spared, had the item not been kept up.
Some will look at this as a loss for Subeta, while we are viewing it as a definite win. We are able to continue about our business and create fun, exciting new things for all of you to do, and you are able to play Subeta without worrying about what is lurking, and who is really your friend.
Again, we all apologize for any problems that you may have experienced in the past month due to this little group of pixels, and we hope that all of you keep playing Subeta. The site is about you, the users, and would be nothing without you. We also want to extend an apology to any community outside of Subeta that has been affected by this, including the communities we were having this problem with - all of the chans. Hopefully we can all move on to things that are more important :) We also apologize for any actions we took that may have provoked the chans, including taunting or pushing them to make sure they knew we weren't going to give up. All of this we accept as our fault, and we are apologizing to every party for.
Starting out the new features, is the Cult Revamp! Recoded to work much better, you can now create a cult and choose from a number of pre-made templates, which range from Angelic to Hydrus :)
We are leaving the comments on this post open, in hopes that everyone can play nice. We will disable that easy if need be.
Posted by Keith
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ok Julie sent you one, enjoy.
and before the asking me to send one.. the answer is no..
Julie asked and i sent, end of story.
I am not sending one to anyone else.
and before the asking me to send one.. the answer is no..
Julie asked and i sent, end of story.
I am not sending one to anyone else.
<b>Quote By Linxy:</b><blockquote style="padding:5px; line-height:15px; background-color: #FAFFFF; border: 1px solid #000000; font-family: georgia; font-size: 10;">
He repalced the cat, and i'm proud of him. Hes gained my respect, and admiration. </blockquote>
Definitally <img src=http://75.126.139.58/smilies/6398_emoticon_smile.gif border=0>
He repalced the cat, and i'm proud of him. Hes gained my respect, and admiration. </blockquote>
Definitally <img src=http://75.126.139.58/smilies/6398_emoticon_smile.gif border=0>
Dill
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To paraphrase Benjamin Franklin: The man who sacrifices freedom for security deserves neither and will lose both.
Agree with STIJN and mbif.
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Neville Chamberlain would be proud, but that's another thing again.
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<i>Disclosure please.</i>
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Neville Chamberlain would be proud, but that's another thing again.
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<i>Disclosure please.</i>
Well I want to voice my opinion... I'm MAD now... the long cat was one of my favorite items... you should have keep your side and keep it. I'm very disapointed in this matter... and I also sincerely dislike the Draconis on the avatar.
True, even I voted to keep it. Then I learned everything, and I bet alot of people who've been hit by 420, or has friends hit, or even finally understood 420 is a force that is dangerous would vote differently now.
But Keith didnt need to go to a secodn poll. He repalced the cat, and i'm proud of him. Hes gained my respect, and admiration.
But Keith didnt need to go to a secodn poll. He repalced the cat, and i'm proud of him. Hes gained my respect, and admiration.
gg caving in to the pressure of the chans, not listening to a vote the users controlled, and taking back the big talk you talked a while back.
not the subeta i know and love
not the subeta i know and love
<b>Quote By RavenmasterCorvus:</b><blockquote style="padding:5px; line-height:15px; background-color: #FAFFFF; border: 1px solid #000000; font-family: georgia; font-size: 10;">
This doesn't make sense to me. The poll said Subeta was for the users, and the users voted to keep longcat. In fact the VAST majority of users voted to keep longcat.</blockquote>
Aye, I voted to keep the cat but after finding out more about it changed my mind. It's not worth it to me =/ The whole thing is so completely rediculous its almost funny if it wernt so real.
This doesn't make sense to me. The poll said Subeta was for the users, and the users voted to keep longcat. In fact the VAST majority of users voted to keep longcat.</blockquote>
Aye, I voted to keep the cat but after finding out more about it changed my mind. It's not worth it to me =/ The whole thing is so completely rediculous its almost funny if it wernt so real.
And it would go a long way to explain what the hell the problem with Longcat is to those who have no idea what was going on in the first place.
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Again, disclosure please.
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Again, disclosure please.
This is not just a situatino where ' hey, I'm going to remove the longcat because I was told to'
This is because we are forced to.
420 is collecting names of people who still persist at keeping the longcat. Its on their threads, no joke. They are even screenshooting people and making targets.
I'm saying this in hopes people will listen. This is for your own good to remove the longcat if you have it on your avatar. I'm tired of seeign innocent users, or users who know nothign of whast goign on, to be hit because of such a simple thing.
Why do you think the admin, artists, and mods are asking for you to do this?
This is because we are forced to.
420 is collecting names of people who still persist at keeping the longcat. Its on their threads, no joke. They are even screenshooting people and making targets.
I'm saying this in hopes people will listen. This is for your own good to remove the longcat if you have it on your avatar. I'm tired of seeign innocent users, or users who know nothign of whast goign on, to be hit because of such a simple thing.
Why do you think the admin, artists, and mods are asking for you to do this?
I'm sorry mbif, that is crappy. And one less kitty for my gallery. Well all you whiners from the other night got your way. congrats. I MISS THE LONGCAT. So bite me. Keyboard on your head.....this is just getting retarded.
In all honesty i don't really understand what the actually problem with the longcat was, but the draconis is very nice <img src=http://75.126.139.58/smilies/6398_emoticon_smile.gif border=0>
This doesn't make sense to me.
The poll said Subeta was for the users, and the users voted to keep longcat.
In fact the VAST majority of users voted to keep longcat.
The poll said Subeta was for the users, and the users voted to keep longcat.
In fact the VAST majority of users voted to keep longcat.
However, I really want a full timeline of what happened out of staff.
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I mean, I know what happened because I was following it from multiple angles from the start of the thing.
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But this sanitized propaganda BS is not satisfying at all, and given one of the huge issues the *channers "supposedly" take Subeta's behavior is the fact that users have been lied to, banned on slim pretenses, etc., etc.
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Full disclosure, please. It will go a long way to redeem many of the staff in the eyes of their enemies.
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I mean, I know what happened because I was following it from multiple angles from the start of the thing.
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But this sanitized propaganda BS is not satisfying at all, and given one of the huge issues the *channers "supposedly" take Subeta's behavior is the fact that users have been lied to, banned on slim pretenses, etc., etc.
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Full disclosure, please. It will go a long way to redeem many of the staff in the eyes of their enemies.
I'm curious why they want him to put a keyboard on his head o.O Seriously, how childish could they be? It's all a big joke but they wernt the ones that were being threatened. Hopefully it ends here.
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I'm looking at 420chan now, and they ARE targetting users with longcats still on, or who are saying they miss longcat. So, you know. Just be forewarned. I am trying my best not to incur the wrath of 420chan. :p
Thank god they finally changed it x3 Draconis is adorable, and looks very similair with the way it's worn ^ ^ I'm glad we could come to an aggreement ^ ^
:d You can give one to me, LooneyLupeGirl.
<b>Quote By Julie:</b><blockquote style="padding:5px; line-height:15px; background-color: #FAFFFF; border: 1px solid #000000; font-family: georgia; font-size: 10;">Oh and uh, might want to tell the users that had Longcat equipped when this happened to remove it immediately. :d It still shows up as Longcat on their avatars, even though it's gone.</blockquote>
<b>Quote By Jessyta:</b><blockquote style="padding:5px; line-height:15px; background-color: #FAFFFF; border: 1px solid #000000; font-family: georgia; font-size: 10;">All longcats turned into Draconis. If you had a Longcat in your gallery/shop/wardrobe/vault, look for a draconis. If you were wearing a longcatm unequip your clothing to make it change.</blockquote>
Those of you wearing them and not taking them off please be advised that that might not be the best idea.]
<b>/r/ Keith with keyboard on head proclaiming defeat.</b>
<b>Quote By Julie:</b><blockquote style="padding:5px; line-height:15px; background-color: #FAFFFF; border: 1px solid #000000; font-family: georgia; font-size: 10;">Oh and uh, might want to tell the users that had Longcat equipped when this happened to remove it immediately. :d It still shows up as Longcat on their avatars, even though it's gone.</blockquote>
<b>Quote By Jessyta:</b><blockquote style="padding:5px; line-height:15px; background-color: #FAFFFF; border: 1px solid #000000; font-family: georgia; font-size: 10;">All longcats turned into Draconis. If you had a Longcat in your gallery/shop/wardrobe/vault, look for a draconis. If you were wearing a longcatm unequip your clothing to make it change.</blockquote>
Those of you wearing them and not taking them off please be advised that that might not be the best idea.]
<b>/r/ Keith with keyboard on head proclaiming defeat.</b>
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Princess_Isho, I apologize, but I have this thing with getting frustrated at people who should know better. So just ignore me D; And mbif.. Wow. Yeah. I'd be upset too. <img src=http://75.126.139.58/smilies/6398_emoticon_sad.gif border=0>
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Good decision, but should have been made earlier. If it is just a pixel, and they were making such a big deal about it, the item should have been taken down that very minute. Why put people at risk, for one silly item? I know it's good to stand your ground, even if they were in the wrong, but still keeping the item was putting the users at risk and that's not fair. Well I won't complain too much because finally the item has been removed.
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... Wtf happened? That's the most retarded thing I've ever heard. =__= People getting angry because of Longcats. Big freakin deal.
The Draconis isn't that bad.. I wish they could have made it a Lion or something though..and named it.. LongLion =P XDD
I love the Draconis. I'll have to pick one up for my daughter she loves dragons. Thank you they are even better then the Longcat!!!
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ok this does NOT make me happy.
I collected longcats cause there are/were cute.. now i'm stuck with 55 ugly little dragon things.........
To me all this says is that they won and we lost.....
I would have NEVER given in and took them off the site.
I collected longcats cause there are/were cute.. now i'm stuck with 55 ugly little dragon things.........
To me all this says is that they won and we lost.....
I would have NEVER given in and took them off the site.
Dill
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So all the personal attacks, the phone calls, the stalking of me and my family ... all for nothing. I calmly dealt with DEATH THREATS for this site, and now I'm basically being told that AFTER the damage is done, "too bad, so sad." I have put up with this for NOTHING.
well I'm sure, Zhuria, that they don't care, that you don't care. If they want to keep it on their HA, and have the potential risk of being targeted, who are <i>you</i> to tell them otherwise? They probably already know the risk they are taking upon themselves. Calling people immature, ignorant so on and so forth is only going to get the comments taken off of here. <b>"We are leaving the comments on this post open, in hopes that everyone can play nice."</b>. Take the Topic's advice, and play nice now. <img src=http://75.126.139.58/smilies/6398_emoticon_smile.gif border=0>
Wow, I've been away for a long and am wondering what sort of drama happened here over a few little pixels...I can't believe there is "safety" involved in this issue...*walks away* ... so weird, people can be...
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Again? It hasn't stopped. And it won't unless Keith basically prostrates himself before all of 4chan's /b/ and asks for a reaming.
I am glad you finally made the right decision, Keith. Better late than never, I suppose ;P Plus, the Draconis is just amazing.
I think the Draconis is better, anyway. <img src=http://75.126.139.58/smilies/6398_emoticon_smile.gif border=0> That doesn't mean I hate the Longcat, but hey, the new item's still great! <img src=http://75.126.139.58/smilies/6398_emoticon_happy.gif border=0> hoping the LC controversy won't crop up again
I have been torn about this issue from the beginning.
I feel like it's never a good thing to give into terrorism (which I sort of felt Subeta has been dealing with).
But, I do miss the good old days when we could post on the forums and not worry so much.
I would have had a very hard time making that decision, and I know it was hard for you. Thank you for all your work to secure the site when things got crazy. And I sincerely hope that both parties can go their way and this ends it.
I love the dragconis, great artwork, thank you for making such a great site.
I feel like it's never a good thing to give into terrorism (which I sort of felt Subeta has been dealing with).
But, I do miss the good old days when we could post on the forums and not worry so much.
I would have had a very hard time making that decision, and I know it was hard for you. Thank you for all your work to secure the site when things got crazy. And I sincerely hope that both parties can go their way and this ends it.
I love the dragconis, great artwork, thank you for making such a great site.
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It may not stop all of the attacks, but what do we have to lose? They can always bring it back if the attacks continue.
In all honesty, the issue with the longcat and what ever was currently going on did not bother me =3 the only thing that did bother me was something that had happened one DeviantArt that my have been connected to the longcat issue. Still other then that I had no problems with it =3 I love playing subeta and as long as I can play it, I'm pretty much happy ^^
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Bad move.
Now you've lengthened their e-penises and made them feel powerful. You think this is actually going to stop anything? Wrong.
I say we bring Longcat back. And while we're at it, introduce Tacgnol, duckroll, desu, etc.
Now you've lengthened their e-penises and made them feel powerful. You think this is actually going to stop anything? Wrong.
I say we bring Longcat back. And while we're at it, introduce Tacgnol, duckroll, desu, etc.
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I can NOT believe how immature some people are being.
I don't care how much you like longcat! Keeping it is stupid and is putting you at risk. The fact that some people are so ignorant to the threat is really bugging me.
I don't care how much you like longcat! Keeping it is stupid and is putting you at risk. The fact that some people are so ignorant to the threat is really bugging me.
I just wish there'd been more information on what was going on from the get-go.
Otherwise, I'm glad it's over.
Otherwise, I'm glad it's over.
I LOVE the dragon wearable MUCH better! YAY. I think it is a great way to end all the fuss. <img src=http://75.126.139.58/smilies/6398_emoticon_grin.gif border=0> I respect why you tried to keep longcat, yet I am happy that you have yielded for the betterment of all concerned. I hope you can wash your hands of the whole thing now and move on to better things and sweep the ugliness under the HUGE carpet that is the web.
Thank you. <img src=http://75.126.139.58/smilies/6398_emoticon_grin.gif border=0>
This sight is so much better then any other I have played.
Keep up the good work Keith and Staff!
~I look forward to more fun to come!
~Kahhrma
Thank you. <img src=http://75.126.139.58/smilies/6398_emoticon_grin.gif border=0>
This sight is so much better then any other I have played.
Keep up the good work Keith and Staff!
~I look forward to more fun to come!
~Kahhrma
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Thank you. I know that this was a difficult decision to make, and probably a very difficult thing to do. But I, as a little ole mom who plays the site for fun, and for my daughter who also plays (and I'd like it to be safely, and have had to greatly curtail her subeta use while this has been going on) - I just am so thankful that this is the conclusion of this incident. You may not have ever been in the wrong, I don't know all the details, and so technically you may not have needed to do this, but I still think it will bring us some peace, and I appreciate it. Thank you.
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Good..
I'm happy that you replaced the long cat with another item <img src=http://75.126.139.58/smilies/6398_emoticon_smile.gif border=0> it was the best thing that could be done not because i hated the long cat because i loved the long cat but it's not really worth all that i love the new item <img src=http://75.126.139.58/smilies/6398_emoticon_smile.gif border=0>
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Hey creature, what do you think of the avvie chaz made for me?
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Took a bit too long, in my opinion.
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hi umm i like the longcats, but i can deal with the dragon things. but at least you where kind of nof to give us a new item in return, that you. you are awesome by the way!!!
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I dont think Ive ever said this.
And may never again.
But Keith.
You have my up most respect.
And may never again.
But Keith.
You have my up most respect.
If it were me, I'd cave in after the creditcard numbers were stolen, and after I recieved deaththreats over the phone.
Cha. I really feel bad for Keith now. :c