Cash Shop: Eerie Mash Tun
Warning: Themes of drowning
Ey, that water isn't hot, it's not even steaming!
Are you sure, bruder? It must have cooled very quick if that's ze case, I am sure I put hot water in there!
I'm not sure you did, einzeller.
Just lean in und check, if it's completely cold I'll do your clothes wash for a month!
Ha, you're on!
…*splash*
What are you doing pushing me?! Well, for one thing you're doing my washing for ze next four weeks. Pappnase. Ey…no what are you doing? Open ze hatch! Mein bruder! This isn't funny, don't let the water in, oh god, oh god Gunter I can't…..breathe….please………………
These hazy memories have been like a dream that Bubbles couldn't quite remember for he doesn't even know how long. How long has he been in the Underground? He knows that he likes the warm and dry earthy sub-terrestrial town, He doesn't like the water. He knows that, but not why. Except…he does know. He drowned. He was drowned. He was betrayed.
Bubbles' nightmare has manifested into corporeality and it threatens us all. The water swirls around us, we can't get enough air, our feet kick and push us only into more water. We will not go this way, we must beat this! Help Bubbles' face his nightmare now by picking up the Eerie Mash Tun from the Cash Shop and defeating the Drowning Betrayal!
Flickering Light Bulb will retire on March 1st.
Posted by SubetaTeam
Sprinter137
@Sundown I was there for the first survival...I'll never forget how scary and ominous it was as everyone was getting infected and no one knew what was going on. We had to wear masks on our avatars to keep from being infected. You really got immersed in that fear and desperation, even if of course you knew it was only a plot. Survival is still fun, but nothing compares to the intensity of that first year.
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loopa
oh WOW. i googled mash tun so i could know what the heck it was....and knowing its big as hell and for beer making stuff, it makes a lot of sense for the theories everyone has about Gunther betraying his brother. AND it makes me wanna read that man's subetapedia entry...hmmm.
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Thia
Okay what does "Pappnase" mean, anyway, Google doesn't seem able to translate it?
And is there somewhere else we can discuss this? I had some thoughts but it doesn't seem like a news post is the best place for theories and such.
And is there somewhere else we can discuss this? I had some thoughts but it doesn't seem like a news post is the best place for theories and such.
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Raggy
I have pondered quite often about how scary and weird it must have been 9 years ago, for people to suddenly start becoming zombies whilst on a pet site, that was a stroke of genius and very brave, users must have truly been worried and scared when they first saw signs of the changes. I wish I had been around then to experience it.
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Kinky
I have an INTENSE fear of drowning. I have trouble even putting my head under the water of a shower. This was such a crazy ride of a thing to read for me. I thank you so much for the warning, but I had to read it to find out what happened. Poor Bubbles!
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Florrosada12
#justiceforbubbles
And for Anne, she lost her father due to very foul play. Gunter has a LOT of explaining to do.
And for Anne, she lost her father due to very foul play. Gunter has a LOT of explaining to do.
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Toby
@Rodent
In fact, the whole thing seems planned, with Gunter putting cold water in and then asking Bubbles to lean in and check...
In fact, the whole thing seems planned, with Gunter putting cold water in and then asking Bubbles to lean in and check...
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METROID
@Rodent
It may seem intentional from bubbles perspective, but perhaps it was an accident. We really need Gunter's side of the story for clarification.
It may seem intentional from bubbles perspective, but perhaps it was an accident. We really need Gunter's side of the story for clarification.
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Muerte
@Rodent
I mean, people do stupid things (and pranks) when drunk. But the fact Gunter's SubetaPedia page states he's guilty because of what he did "over the brewery" implies that he killed him to obtain exclusive rights to the brewery (which opens a lot of theories up to why he'd want them).
I mean, people do stupid things (and pranks) when drunk. But the fact Gunter's SubetaPedia page states he's guilty because of what he did "over the brewery" implies that he killed him to obtain exclusive rights to the brewery (which opens a lot of theories up to why he'd want them).
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Ginseng
Everyone saying it may have been a prank gone wrong should read the text again. The last bit literally sounds like Gunter pushed Bubbles in, closed the mash tun latch, and then filled it with water. That doesn't sound accidental??
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Makani
I just want to thank staff for putting that warning there.
Also, I didn't expect this story to take this twist. woah.
Also, I didn't expect this story to take this twist. woah.
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Aya
Finally it's no longer just hinted at. Though I actually didn't make the connection to his name eluding to his death, I just thought he was a fun humored guy.
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PiplupMagby34
Well...
This explains why bringing Brewery items to Bubbles unlocks him as a challenger...
And maybe it was an accident? Anyone know about case 2 in the first Danganronpa game?
That's a good example. It's basically what @MoonCat83 's theory about Bubbles death is.
This explains why bringing Brewery items to Bubbles unlocks him as a challenger...
And maybe it was an accident? Anyone know about case 2 in the first Danganronpa game?
That's a good example. It's basically what @MoonCat83 's theory about Bubbles death is.
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Mackenzi
!!!!! Gunter!!! Did this?!! I am in total shock. Omg. What in the world, talk about hidden depths. I'm amazed. How can we look at him the same? What did he stand to gain? What is the expression on his face in that wave, is it innocent? Is it malicious? So many questions!! Is this why he stopped the beer club??? What happened! We need him to talk!! Tell us what happened Gunter!! Explain yourself!!
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Kushiel
I love the word Pappnase you used, I get all giddy when I see German used right with Gunther and other npcs like him :D
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TaleSpin
Brother betraying brother? Where have I seen this before? Let me think.... oh yes, I remember!
Couldn't resist. XD Man this is DARK...and I love it. But whether it was intentional (as someone mentioned, no cure for zombieness in the first year?) or a prank gone terribly wrong, I forgive you Gunter. ;n;
Couldn't resist. XD Man this is DARK...and I love it. But whether it was intentional (as someone mentioned, no cure for zombieness in the first year?) or a prank gone terribly wrong, I forgive you Gunter. ;n;
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Allegria
Mmmm... Interesting beer this year, Gunter. It's a little hoppy, and I detect notes of oak, wheat, AND FRATRICIDE! I give it... three stars?
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Ambition
I can't believe that I have had my pets around a murderer!!! O.O
Also, someone-staffer- around here must have a drowning fetish that makes what, two drownings on site NPCs so far? It is either that or drowning is the only "acceptable" way to kill off someone? I do know that if a woman writes the character story then drowning or poisoning (something 'clean') is a more likely way for a character to die than if it were a man doing the writing/killing. Perhaps that is why, a team effort but the one(s) with the most sway are women?
Just a thought theory here but I am still thinking about it.
Also, someone-staffer- around here must have a drowning fetish that makes what, two drownings on site NPCs so far? It is either that or drowning is the only "acceptable" way to kill off someone? I do know that if a woman writes the character story then drowning or poisoning (something 'clean') is a more likely way for a character to die than if it were a man doing the writing/killing. Perhaps that is why, a team effort but the one(s) with the most sway are women?
Just a thought theory here but I am still thinking about it.
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Cassandra
@SAMARITAN I would say that is a very likely theory. It is awesome that the Subeta team do all this excellent work that triggers users in all sorts of ways. It's an open forum to discuss all the things that we need to process without fear of judgement.
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springjoy
Woah, um, that made me sad and creeped out and curious at the same time. What the actual heck?!
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Dami
Woah..I'm speecheless. O_O
I hope we will get Gunter's side of the story soon.
All the theories are interesting and I love when the Subeta community starts to investigate like that.
And I love that you guys used the word Pappnase. XD My favourite wannabe insult. (There is no German who say's this in a serious manner, because the word is so silly.)
(Also I'm a bit worried about the thought if Gunter truly is a murderer...that would leave a bad taste in my mouth as a German player.)
I hope we will get Gunter's side of the story soon.
All the theories are interesting and I love when the Subeta community starts to investigate like that.
And I love that you guys used the word Pappnase. XD My favourite wannabe insult. (There is no German who say's this in a serious manner, because the word is so silly.)
(Also I'm a bit worried about the thought if Gunter truly is a murderer...that would leave a bad taste in my mouth as a German player.)
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Johnny_673
Ok this thing is taking some heavy turns now
What the actual hell
Maybe that's why Gunter is a drunk? To numb the shame and pain?
What the actual hell
Maybe that's why Gunter is a drunk? To numb the shame and pain?
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Rowan
Damn, just... damn that's dark, guys. I know you guys have dove into some dark shit before, but sweet mother of Shinwa, I was not expecting this. Gunter drowned his own brother?
...
*breathes in heavily*
Damn...
...
*breathes in heavily*
Damn...
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StarShadow
Another challenger that costs money. Sorry, have other stuff to spend CSC on. But the wave is really pretty.
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Laurey
Yeah it seems to me more like they were arguing like brothers do, and maybe Gunter was trying to play a prank but it went too far and he didn't mean to do it. It still happened though, so not excusing Gunter's behavior, but he does seem to feel bad about it.
As for how Bubbles became a zombie, IDK we'd need more info for that, but maybe he was only what some people might call "mostly dead" but Gunter dumped his body anyway and it washed up somewhere and he became infected? Who knows at this point though.
As for how Bubbles became a zombie, IDK we'd need more info for that, but maybe he was only what some people might call "mostly dead" but Gunter dumped his body anyway and it washed up somewhere and he became infected? Who knows at this point though.
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Tamino
Has anyone considered that this might have been a prank gone horribly wrong? And that that's why Gunther is smiling? The item describtion says "There is an unsettling air around this mash tun... Like something unfortunate may have happened here.". "Unfortunate" doesn't exactly sound murder-y, does it?
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Greg
Maybe Gunter has a murderous personality that takes control under certain circumstances, hence why the guilt only strikes when he's drunk? Because he doesn't remember otherwise?
WhoOo knows
WhoOo knows
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Toby
That face is not the face of someone who is regretfully killing his zombie brother for the greater good.
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ChatLunatique
@Life and @Elio The Free beer was the death brew!? Ooh great! My nightmare pet wants all the beers now!
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Sketch
I kept thinking how fucked up was to have a murderer out there that got no consequences for his actions but then I realized there's no rule about murdering, so I guess it's not against the law.
The hell Subeta.
The hell Subeta.
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Lea
I am in love with this entire news post and the cpmments on it, oh man, this is why Subeta is best petsite
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Desolace
Okay, this is all really dark and dramatic, but I still laughed at Pappnase, it's one of my favourite insults, my grandma always uses it :D
(just a small nitpick: both Einzeller and Bruder have to start with a capital letter as well ^^)
(just a small nitpick: both Einzeller and Bruder have to start with a capital letter as well ^^)
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Karasu
I'm surprised Bubbles didn't die in a silo or something. The most dangerous place on a farm and where we were forbidden to play near.
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Solsticesprite
@Ryuu we can call in Inspector Thorpe if we like to. This is not necessary, though in Subeta users don't fight, pets do. I have three tier 13s and twelve t12s with billions of sP worth of weaponry hidden in my under-Omen lair to protect me and Greg. Gunter has ....Oatmeal.
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Life
@Solsticesprite I remember the biting well, someone with a different virus from mine bit me when I was in the third stage of the one I wanted and switched my hearts to footrash. I don't have a selective memory, I was only talking about one small piece of that event along with the Subetapedia entry.
It's all good either way, filling in the pieces and comparing notes is part of the fun :)
It's all good either way, filling in the pieces and comparing notes is part of the fun :)
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Solsticesprite
@Life IMO you have a selective memory. There was biting, I know this because I was one of the very first with the hearts in the eyes zombie and folks were wondering what I was doing to them. It was humans vs zombies and while there was indeed the masks and shrunken heads and Dr. Lockhart there were users who ragequit when their HAs got messed up.
Users didn't all of a sudden become zombies, there were stages then, just as there are now. And once the biting happened, there was no question that the disease was causing zombiness. It is reasonable if you see someone in stage one who is still not yet a shambling hulk that they will indeed become one. If you didn't know how perternaturally strong your brother is yet but absolutely need to protect yourself and his family, yeah you'd joke around and do a trick rather than get bitten or infected in the scuffle yourself.
Users didn't all of a sudden become zombies, there were stages then, just as there are now. And once the biting happened, there was no question that the disease was causing zombiness. It is reasonable if you see someone in stage one who is still not yet a shambling hulk that they will indeed become one. If you didn't know how perternaturally strong your brother is yet but absolutely need to protect yourself and his family, yeah you'd joke around and do a trick rather than get bitten or infected in the scuffle yourself.
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innamoramento
I really liked Gunter for some reason.... T-T
I wish I saw it sooner, after all the crime shows I watched..
-the best criminals always know how to make themselves liked by the others-
I wish I saw it sooner, after all the crime shows I watched..
-the best criminals always know how to make themselves liked by the others-
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Ryuu
Quote by @Greg:
I mean, that's just your headcanon. We just have half of the story here: Bubbles was murdered (drowned, no less) by his brother.
We still need Gunter's testimony.
Quote by @Solsticesprite:
So, which one of you is volunteering to stroll on up to that drunken, mountain-of-a-man and say:Everyone is condemning Gunther without hearing the whole story,. so they are the ones who are fabricating. What I have is not headcanon, what I have are reasonable doubts.
"A little birdie (or should I say fishy) just happened to tell me that you might have killed your own brother? What's that about?"
Maybe you'll end up 'helping' to clean out that mash tun next. ;)
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Life
From the Subetapedia entry for Gunter
"Tends to get very melancholy after drinking too much; feels guilty over what happened between him and his brother over the brewery"
That sounds like a business rivalry/jealousy thing more than a zombie thing. And during the original Pandemic, citizens didn't know what the virus was going to do, so it wasn't like there was a rash (zombie pun) of murders and the uninfected were slaughtering the sick. There were surgical masks and charms to ward off the virus, and Tits McGee telling everyone to stay home.
He drowned him in a fermenting tank while they were working and joking around :|
"Tends to get very melancholy after drinking too much; feels guilty over what happened between him and his brother over the brewery"
That sounds like a business rivalry/jealousy thing more than a zombie thing. And during the original Pandemic, citizens didn't know what the virus was going to do, so it wasn't like there was a rash (zombie pun) of murders and the uninfected were slaughtering the sick. There were surgical masks and charms to ward off the virus, and Tits McGee telling everyone to stay home.
He drowned him in a fermenting tank while they were working and joking around :|
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Lantern
Oh my god yes thank you for finally letting us know how Bubbles was killed. I've wanted to know for so long.
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PUNK
I almost drowned in a river when I was a child. True fact.
I don't think Gunter had anything to do with it though. *squints*
I don't think Gunter had anything to do with it though. *squints*
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Tiobe
so I guess Alegarten is cancelled? should someone maybe take custody of Oatmeal, Emma and Esther maybe? Or maybe this is like the Darkheart Phantom playing like he kidnaps Melody but really there's more to the story? *fingers crossed*
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Solsticesprite
@Greg Bubbles is a zombie, so there's no headcanon there. And we know that the uneasy dead become ghosts, that's Jaxon, so there's no headcanon there.
Everyone is condemning Gunther without hearing the whole story,. so they are the ones who are fabricating. What I have is not headcanon, what I have are reasonable doubts.
Everyone is condemning Gunther without hearing the whole story,. so they are the ones who are fabricating. What I have is not headcanon, what I have are reasonable doubts.
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Synth
What...no... Gunter...why?!
But I love Gunter though. I hope Solsticesprite's theory is correct. We need to hear Gunter's side of this. No judgment yet, only sadness and concern. Please don't let this screw up Alegarten. ._.
(Seriously though, I approve of the dark storytelling, just wish it concerned NPCs I cared less about lol)
But I love Gunter though. I hope Solsticesprite's theory is correct. We need to hear Gunter's side of this. No judgment yet, only sadness and concern. Please don't let this screw up Alegarten. ._.
(Seriously though, I approve of the dark storytelling, just wish it concerned NPCs I cared less about lol)
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Greg
@Solsticesprite
I mean, that's just your headcanon. We just have half of the story here: Bubbles was murdered (drowned, no less) by his brother.
We still need Gunter's testimony.
I mean, that's just your headcanon. We just have half of the story here: Bubbles was murdered (drowned, no less) by his brother.
We still need Gunter's testimony.
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Solsticesprite
I'm not joking @Wolfmyth. We know what causes zombieness, it's a bite, or in the original Pandemic, it's in the air.
Gunter saw that his brother was Infected, and to save his family from being eaten, did some self=defense. There was no cure for zombieness the first year, we had no idea that there would be one.
Gunter saw that his brother was Infected, and to save his family from being eaten, did some self=defense. There was no cure for zombieness the first year, we had no idea that there would be one.
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talisman
wait people didnt get this from the subetapedia articles? omg ive assumed it was murder for so long. so eerie and dark. i love this side of subeta. x:
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Wolfmyth
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Durandal
I'M GOING TO DELETE ALL THE BEERS I BOUGHT FROM HIM AND ALSO MYSELF I FEEL HORRIBLE MOTHERTRUCKER DUDE
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MoonCat83
It's entirely possible that Gunter murdered his brother in a fit of jealousy. Perhaps Bubbles was better than his brother in some way or maybe he was the favorite. Whatever the reason, envy festered in Gunter's heart as he watched his brother get all the attention. Gunter wanted nothing more than get what Bubbles had by any means necessary. The hatred and envy gradually grew until one day, he acted on his jealously. It was so easy pass it off as a tragic accident. Gunter had committed the perfect crime and possibly got everything his brother had.
Though the question remains is whether or not Gunter regrets his act of jealousy…
Though the question remains is whether or not Gunter regrets his act of jealousy…
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Life
honestly I was pretty ok until I noticed the reflection on the surface of the wave
that face isn't ok
that face isn't ok
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Marlboro
This is what happens when the SAI is not getting a revamp and some features..
Murders, betrayals and chaos! It’s like we are in a daily danger, every NPC is ending up being a psycho!!
Poor Bubbles :(
Murders, betrayals and chaos! It’s like we are in a daily danger, every NPC is ending up being a psycho!!
Poor Bubbles :(
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Muerte
@Squidward
And his ex wife left him for another man... How could Wes know his 'friend' would screw him in more ways than one ?
And his ex wife left him for another man... How could Wes know his 'friend' would screw him in more ways than one ?
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ChatLunatique
Loving the darker lore. I mean, a place with nightmare pets can't be all sunshine and roses.
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Rii
...dang, it was RIGHT THERE in Gunter's subetapedia entry the whole time. I mean it was so vague there was no way to know it was friggun m u r d e r but
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Clopin
Oh goddamit that reward drop. Y'all teasing me and my weak battle pets, I need that for my Kylo pet's TC. Squints. I'm on to you and your sadism. (Teasing but really, cool drops!)
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Ryuu
Dude drown and you call him Bubbles.
Brutal, subeta. ;P
So, does the name that an Unliving takes/has have to do with how they die?
Or, maybe only (relatively) newly dead do that? And, then they take a 'real' name after having been dead for so long and are comfortable with being Unliving? (I think that there was something about us/the-player-character being a newly-dead and the other guys picking up on that during the Ecks VS Skitters plot...)
eh. Things to think about, I guess.
Brutal, subeta. ;P
So, does the name that an Unliving takes/has have to do with how they die?
Or, maybe only (relatively) newly dead do that? And, then they take a 'real' name after having been dead for so long and are comfortable with being Unliving? (I think that there was something about us/the-player-character being a newly-dead and the other guys picking up on that during the Ecks VS Skitters plot...)
eh. Things to think about, I guess.
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Solsticesprite
None of you youngsters remember, there wasn't a cure for zombieness for the first year of the Great Pandemic. We didn't know if ANYONE would live.
Gunter did what he *had* to do not only to survive, but to save Bubbles' family
As for Bubbles's name, I always supposed that there was a suppurating wound on his back that only the locals knew about.
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Gunter did what he *had* to do not only to survive, but to save Bubbles' family
As for Bubbles's name, I always supposed that there was a suppurating wound on his back that only the locals knew about.
'
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Darkrai
Please tell me this has eaten away at Gunter for years and years and that's the reason he drinks?
Also please let me tell Anne. I'll even help her drag Gunter's body away. Come on, no jury would convict her. Just look at that hat
Also please let me tell Anne. I'll even help her drag Gunter's body away. Come on, no jury would convict her. Just look at that hat
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BabuBabu
gunter u didnt just kill ur brother u killed your niece's DAD. he HAD A FAMILY ;-;
Haunting read and beautiful item <3 Bring on more lore ! Loving it!
Haunting read and beautiful item <3 Bring on more lore ! Loving it!
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Greg
Wait so not only his name makes sense now, but also the way you unlock Bubbles as a challenger...
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Pandoria
@jmarie453
Tier 8 can easily take it down to five wins! There is a gimmick:
Tier 8 can easily take it down to five wins! There is a gimmick:
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Ferinsy
@jmarie453 yup, it can be beaten by T8, I struggled once with my T10 because I was unlucky and got frozen 5 times in a row, but it seems to be a chance of freezing weapon. Be sure to defend (I used Shinwas shard) because its weapons hurt a lot lol
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Foxtrot
@Zai
You rock! Seems suitable for tier 8-ish or is there a weird gimmick that makes it a 'rough wave to ride'? lol
You rock! Seems suitable for tier 8-ish or is there a weird gimmick that makes it a 'rough wave to ride'? lol
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jensen
i still can't believe i thought maybe it was an accidental drowning (since the brewery is so close to the lake) smdh gunter i trusted you
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chookie
well, wow. does that mean Gunter has to go into hiding now, or what? y'know, now that we all know what he did. to his own brother.
i hope we get to hear his side of the story! *the plot thickens*
i hope we get to hear his side of the story! *the plot thickens*
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Julie
You've found a Hidden Opponent!
Drowning Betrayal challenges you to a fight in the Battle Coliseum!
Drowning Betrayal challenges you to a fight in the Battle Coliseum!
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Pandoria
@jmarie453
It's a Very Hard Challenger! :)
Also that gave me chills reading it. Wowzers!
It's a Very Hard Challenger! :)
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Woven
What o_o
Please tell me this is just a nightmare and not reality...otherwise Subeta is a pretty scary place what with murderers going around unchecked and all D:
Please tell me this is just a nightmare and not reality...otherwise Subeta is a pretty scary place what with murderers going around unchecked and all D:
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SongSparra
Ya shitting me! Gunter is a murderer! Wow this site is getting freakier by the season
*sits looking at screen with head tilted and screwed up "WTF" expression on face*
*sits looking at screen with head tilted and screwed up "WTF" expression on face*
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Clopin
THIS IS NOT WHAT I WANTED TO KNOW ABOUT GUNTER. Y'all just ruined alcohol uncle and Oatmeal Dad. Pardon the caps, we were all just betrayed by Gunter aND sTAFF.
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Avel
"The water swirls around us, we can't get enough air, our feet kick and push us only into more water."
I didn't need that imagery.
I didn't need that imagery.
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