A Very Unfortunate Downtime

1 Week Gold Account Medal




Happy Luminaire to all timezones! For those of you that checked Subeta earlier today, you may have noticed an issue in the way that Luminaire presents went out. Unfortunately, an incorrect script was used to process the many gifts given by generous Subetans, and they were given out via the (much oudated) "stocking” method for many users. This caused an influx of sidebar events rather than the (much preferred) method of seeing your gifts gathered on one page. More importantly, and more detrimentally, it caused some gifts to go out more than once - a big problem for things like Custom Wearables or CSC cards!



We've spent the last few hours trying to figure out the best route to take. We considered manually deleting items, but we couldn't be certain which items were legitimately sent in multiples. We were looking at doing a rollback, but it's about the worst day of the year for that, (not that there's EVER a good time for a rollback) and wasn't possible to set up until tomorrow, meaning the site may have been offline for up to 48 hours. We obviously didn't want this to happen - not at a time of year where you want to be well-wishing your friends on the site!



So we've come to this: we trust you guys, and we don't think it's fair for you to lose any effort you've put into the site because of a mistake on our end. So we're asking you this: to please delete the items you may have received via the "stocking events". (HERE is a handy link to your events page in case you want to keep track of what you received)We ask you to take some time to enjoy the holiday while we work on our end to resolve this as quickly as we can. We will be updating you as soon as possible (this could mean it might take a few days) with the link to the Trees so you can open your gifts properly. This is a special time of year for everybody - including the staff - and getting things like this resolved is a lot more difficult for us.



If you did not receive any stocking related events, you’re in the clear and don’t have to worry about deleting any items. You’ll just have to wait for the trees to open, which we will make a separate news post about!



Please accept our apologies for any inconvenience or upset caused, and as a goodwill gesture, you can now get a 1 Week Gold Account Medal via the free gift. We are also giving each user 250csc (added to your on-hand credits), putting a few extra gifts under the tree, and until Monday ALL quests are weekend quests.



Happy Luminaire, thank you for continuing to support Subeta, and here's to a slightly less chaotic New Year!
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Posted by SubetaTeam

seephira
thank you so much
Delirium
Also, holy shit, the salt is real. Taking advantage of site glitches IS and always has been against the rules, and grounds for warnings and freezing of accounts. Of COURSE you don't get to keep the potential hundreds or even thousands of items that you shouldn't have received because of a script error. Delete them and quit whining. The staff didn't need to give us anything to compensate for the down time while they fixed the errors; you should be grateful they didn't just shut the site down for a couple days to fix it and delete everything themselves. If a virtual pet site having some errors and not getting to keep a bunch of things you shouldn't have received ruins your Christmas, you need better priorities. There are a million other things to do, even if you don't celebrate Christmas.
arixen
Wow what a mess! So sorry this happened today. The Subeta staff is awesome, as always, and obviously spent a lot of time on their holiday figuring out how to fix things. I am very grateful for the way they do their best to keep us informed and for the many ways they show that they care about the Subeta users. I also really appreciate the fact that they decided to just trust their user base to do the right thing, I can't imaging that happening on most other sites. We are so lucky to have this kind of support. Thank you so much for all the extra gifts. Wishing everyone on Subeta, staff and users alike a very happy holiday season. Hope you all find time to be with your family and friends.
Bleak_Light
@czar - No, no! You misunderstand! Minions aren't "deleted" the way mere THINGS are! They're simply taken out by special teams of SAI-sanctioned environmental preservationists and released back into their natural habitat, thus insuring the continuation of their species. In the spring, hundreds of tiny little snoopeeps will be hatching, all thanks to you! You've done a wonderful thing. sniff Thank you! ;_;
Taiho
Wow! Thanks that was very generous. Wish you luck on resolving it.
Delirium
Thanks for working on Christmas to get this all sorted out. ? You guys are awesome.
Happy holidays!
Johnny_673
PLEASE reset the quests :c sobs
Kitten_410
User not found: predator said literally the funniest thing I've ever heard. Please bring more drama to this post. The fact that a glitch ruined your holiday is pretty amusing. I mean... A glitch on a website of pixel items. You are so hurting because you can't have the newest CW? I mean really. I don't even.. I don't understand. I literally can not fathom what kind of a Grinch you are in real life.
Tali
Thank you for keeping us posted! In all honesty, I just feel bad that you guys have to work so hard on a holiday because of this. I hope that you guys are still able to enjoy it, and the 1 week GA, CSC, and weekend quests are a really kind gesture. Thank you so much :)
Song_745
Thanks for all of your work on the holidays! It's very much appreciated. It's a shame that we have to wait a couple days for our trees, but what's a couple more days after waiting all month? The extras are especially generous, thank you so much! You even made the gold account medal a free gift, so we can choose when to use our gold time. <3

You're all wonderful! :) Happy holidays!
CMYK
@FLUX
Sadly waves goodbye to all of the wasted pudge fluffs ;;
FLUX
@czar
Your deletion was like a snooburb reckoning then...that's rough. RIP snooburbs and may you be free in birb heaven with no snoohoks to taint your skies amen
toilet
Wow thanks, this is nice
Francine
@Amber okay thank you for answering! I don't blame you for not wanting to root around the database again haha.
starlesswinter
Lucky to have missed the "stocking syndrome", thanks to the staff for being on it and we'll hang on in there!
Oreobot
Lord help me I had over three hundred items. 250csc is worth it, though! o3o~
Poe
Thank you guys for the hard work! All those gifts are a very generous surprise (?•? ? •??)!
CMYK
@FLUX
I HAD 64 SNOOBURBS.

64!

SIX. FOUR.

cries
Magician
Also, you guys are seriously awesome for taking care of this on Christmas day when you could've been spending time with your family. Us players appreciate it. <3
Shatiel
@Amber ok taken time for deleting :) deleted everything apart from today melody gifts :D i hope everything it will be alright :)
if everything mess up i can file a ticket, right?
good night everyone and thanks for the good work and patience you have :*
MoonlightSonata
@Predator
Way to be ungrateful there, dude. I mean, there's this thing called "Human error". And the mods spend their Christmas day fixing the problem so everyone can get back on today. And you want to whine over not being allowed to keep things given to you via a glitch? Real mature, bruh.
That said, props to the mods for mature handling of a situation.
Amber STAFF
@Gryffindor Nope. People who didn’t get a chance to do them today will still have two days to have extra WQ (mostly because I don't want to mess with the database more than I need to right this second haha)
Botanist
Subeta's not dead; it's a Christmas miracle!

Thanks for the extra goodies, staff. Mulled wine and slice of Christmas pud to everyone that's been scrabbling around trying to fix this instead of eating their chocolate and playing boardgames.
Francine
@Amber are you guys going to do a quest reset for people who finished their quests before "The event"?
Koi
This is really nice of you guys. c: I never opened my tree, but I did notice the site was down for a long time. I don't mind waiting on the trees. c:
Austria
I'm sorry things exploded today of all days, but you guys are awesome. Thank you so much for working so hard, thank you for the gifts, and Merry Everything!
Allegria
So Quentin's a special quest as well? Oh well, here's to another weekend of no amulets from them. :D
Magician
As someone who didn't get much for Christmas this year (not complaining- I didn't want anything, I'm just saying I've had a very uneventful Christmas), I am extremely stoked about the GA and CSC. This totally made my day. :D
Stellar
This is why I quit Neopets in favor of Subeta (okay admittedly there's a host of other reasons, however). When there's a problem you guys are quick to let us know what's going on and are quick to fix the problem. But not only that but you appreciate the fact that it inconveniences some of your users and you make up for it so nicely, so above and beyond what is required--- it's just a really nice change of pace from what I am used to. Thank you for the CSC and the week of gold time. I'm really grateful for the way you apologized. I hope you all have a nice Christmas, and that the hiccup didn't pull you away from your families for too long.
Annet
Good work and that on the first christmas day!
I wish everybody a good holliday. :)
Amber STAFF
@FLUX Our usual way to send alerts isn’t working, I’m waiting to hear back from a programmer for another way to do it. :) BELIEVE ME I’M READY TO ALERT YOU ALL MANY TIMES TO READ THIS
aiya
I have to say, when you guys mess up, you do a royal job of it, but you are certainly genorous making it up to us. Sorry it had to all happen today, but thank you very much for all the extras. You are all still Christmas Angels.
Side note: Why is a long sad story, but without Subeta I would not have a Christmas, so I am really grateful for your efforts.
FLUX
@Amber
You guys might wanna actually send out a small event notification for the people that inevitably do TLDR the news anyway that says to delete everything.

I had to delete doubles last year including stuff like a Shriek of Despair Scroll so I feel your pain item deleters :P
Kitten_410
@Amber haha, well my problem is there was a glitch last week and half my friends list disappeared and I didn't notice til last night and I couldn't fix it. I just went to go fix it but since people are missing I gifted some extra (not that that matters) but I noticed you mentioned it's best to send gifts through the gift center, can I be sure my items aren't lost in limbo?
Sunflower
@Amber OH MY

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR TAKING MORE TIME OUT OF YOUR SCHEDULE FOR THEM!!!

We're so worried on what to do and so sorry to be taking up yet more of your time, but thank you! Because I don't think we could do this on our own. (Like, I honestly wouldn't be surprised if that 3k+ events is very little duplication and mostly all me, lol... Oh dear oh dear I rly regret my life choices right now in wanting to do a literal avalanche of gifts.)
Hellbent
Yeah so I saw that one specific comment and I just...?

We're literally only being asked to be decent human beings and not steal from the site. Is that really too much to ask?
Thestral
People are absolutely vile- even when it comes to pet sites. Glad to know some would exploit a glitch REAL quick. Falafuckingla. Damn.
Han
No worries on everything, dear Staff. Thank you all for working hard for our sake, but please be sure to relax and enjoy the holiday too. I didn't expect anything compensation for the down time, but it is a lovely gesture. Thanks for being so diligent and professional as always! Happy Luminaire! c:
Shatiel
@far ok :) i will do tomorrow morning XD it's already late here and i've keep to get at least melody gifts and achievement :P
maybe there will be more news and developments to the thing XD thank you
Amber STAFF
@Shatiel Yes, those were given to you by Melody (which you’ll get again from your tree when we open them). So delete them. :) I can’t bring back your events, but just look at everything in your inventory after the last melody item night you got (I always have my inventory set to timeline) and that might help you a lot more for what you should be deleting. :)
@kitten Don’t worry about the trees looking sad without presents, we’ll fix that ;)
Stellar
@Lovelie me too. A bit disappointed.

In other news, IDK what is meant by "stocking events". I went to the link provided and there wasn't anything on that page, so I guess I'm in the clear?
_blackwolf_2009_
@Shatiel

Delete all those items. They didn't lose anything at all but it was given out with the wrong script and wasn't supposed to be doubled or tripled. So delete them, please. :)
Star_Gazer
So will we be able to continue to gift or will that mess up with what's already being fixed by the wonderful subeta team , didn't really get to say thanks but y'all are Truely awesome working on Christmas to keep us all joyful.
Ferinsy
@Amber I think it's a nice thing to add to the bottom of the news post (bold preferentially): "Delete everything you got from stocking events and you'll still get everything people gave you in a couple days when we fix it and open the trees,"
Kitten_410
So idk if this is part of the glitch or not but the people that ended up getting items by the bad script no longer have anything under their tree and they also don't show up in the gifts given page =/

On a side note, it's great you guys are doing extra to keep us happy. Let's just hope that the people involved in the glitch are honest enough to delete the items
Amber STAFF
@Gabriela @Star_Gazer At this point, I suggest just using the gift center to send presents.
@ecks File a ticket and request me! I’ll help you clear things out if I can :) I might be able to help you with some programming magic. And trees will have a link that you hit. :)
far
Once you delete them all, you'll get them back when they "release" the trees.
You're not losing anything at all :)
@Shatiel
Silvy
Ok now that the 'shock' and 'disappointment' of deleting these gifts has passed I am noticing two things.
  1. I am grateful for Subeta staff for always being amazing and thinking of their users firsts, even when these errors screw their RL holidays, and for trying to work the best solution for us.
  2. I am both sicken and amused by the people who are hissing and creating drama in these comments, because I find it fun, but also wonder if they ever stop and consider how would THEY FEEL if they had made this error, and others would hiss and complain to THEM.


-grabs popcorn and shakes head at haters-
Laurey
Seems like a lot of people are coming to the comments to cry about how they don't understand what they're supposed to do. Did you actually read the post??

Everything is explained rather well, don't turn up your nose because it's a big block of text. All of the information you need is in there, and it saves the staff from having to answer the same questions a million times.
Katyanari
I didn't get any stocking events. ^_^ Thank you SOO much for the awesome gifts! You guys are amazing!!

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