Forum Pet Leash





Your pets now have the option of having a forum leash, which will allow you to display them on the forums underneath your avatar and other information!



It is 100CSC to leash a pet, and it lasts 31 days! You can leash as many of your pets as you want, but only one can be displayed at a time. In addition, you get a 255 character description field to write about your pet!



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Posted by Keith

DeathTheKid

I know im not posting about this but my clothes thing isnt loading like it should, what do i do i bought some clothes for my person but i cant put it on her because its not loading and its making me mad because that was a lot if money (sad face) but i would like it if anyone can help me
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catgirl

Personally, I think it's an awesome idea. C: I don't think I'll be using one, but I'll definitely be looking out for them on the forums.
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SalemsLady

LOL I just saw this so yeh, I'm slow;)

I'm not going to 'complain' about the price as such, but it is a bit of a stupid idea to charge people in the first place just to show their pet on a forum LMAO It takes like, 1 click from a profile to see some ones pet. (Presuming they do not have them hidden) Or they can have siggies done to show them. It's not something I'll be wasting my money on, I don't care if it is only a dollar lol and I love to spend my spare cash here, so don't bother saying I'm being tight 'CAUSE IT'S ONLY A DOLLAR' This whole idea just made me laugh to be quite honest!:P
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Mistakes

I believe this is an interesting idea. Certainly not one that I will ever use since I'm rarely on the forums, but interesting and handy for those who like to show off their pets. However, I do have one comment. Is it necessary to have a picture of the leash under all of the options on the pets page? I realize it's a new idea and that showing the image there gets it out, but for people who are uninterested or, say, living off of crappy college internet it's just more images to load and, at least for me, nothing runs smoothly on my laptop here so the wait times can be a tad annoying. It also stretches out the page a bit. Perhaps I'm just picky, but it strikes me as a bit unnecessary. The people who want the leash will find it

I would love to see an option to hide the 'Leash This Pet' image and link, or at least see the picture remove and the 'Leash This Pet' link placed underneath the rest of the options.
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Glacier

Jesus Christ people, it is *ONE DOLLAR*.

I'm a poor grad student whose lunches are $.33 ramen cups to save money, and even I can see that this is not unreasonable. ONE DOLLAR A MONTH.

You can make up for this by not drinking a soda, or not eating a few yogurt cups or just not buying that one neat T shirt when you're out shopping and save the value for a pet leash for the entire year.

Now, I don't really like having to pay more needlessly because of huge corporations trying to see what they can get away with, but giant greedy corporation Subeta is not.
Consider this a tip jar for pet fans.

Still, I agree that I'd honestly rather it be a permanent item- it could be one of those things people work towards, like pet color goals and layout wishes.
If it were spun from that angle, then it could be a potential Legacy box item...
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Yurii

It's a fascinating idea. My only complaint is that the option to do it takes up a lot of room in the list of pet options. Maybe it's just 'cause it's new, but if the image wasn't there, that would be great. ^^;;
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Iknimaya

Well, Frankenchokies, I'm glad you've found some way to make yourself feel important =) If you'll excuse me, I have to wade through some filth and enjoy my life.
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PoeticEnigma

Kida155: You don't have to pay for this with real money either darling ;)
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Kidakins

To those who think us gold account holders always spend money for our upgrades.. It's a lovely thing called loyalty tokens. So don't make stupid assumptions. :heart:

I think this can be a good idea.. but it looks like a waste of money to me. I have it for free on Neopets, anyway. -shrug-
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Melody

What a neat idea! I could see it being especially awesome for people with zapped avatars, to have a "matching" pet show in the forums. ;)
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LadyTamarwen

Can I get one of those for my hubby? xD
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jolyne

also I like how you guys think you're spending just money.
do some offers. get a junk e-mail so you don't get spam. problem solved.
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jolyne

itt: BAWWWWWWW
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Jasper

Judi, we do have a board for whining. It's called "Bragging and Complaining." :P That being said, that doesn't mean people who disagree with this feature, can't post here or anywhere else for that matter.
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Judi

Whats with all the complaining? Sheesh...my poor ears are ringing from all the whining in here.

Its simple really..

Dont like it = dont buy it..

For others who cant make siggys or dont mind supporting the site by showing off their pets...we do like it.

Maybe a new suggestion for the site....a whiners board where people can go and complain.

**Waiting to get flamed now**
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PoeticEnigma

Can the people complaining about the price for a perk that expires tell me how it is any different than a gold account. . . which expires and costs five times as much? (I've noticed several people complaining about it being 12 dollars a year are GA holders . . . um how does that work guys?)
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Marine

Is it possible to leash one pet, then pay for a month's leashing of another pet, then switch over to the other pet, leaving the time for the first pet intact while you use up the time on the second? I'd love to be able to pay for multiple pets and then be able to change them depending on who I feel like showcasing that day, while not having the time on un-leashed pets tick away. Or does it already work that way? :p
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Cried

I don't think this was the sites best idea.
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Brenni

I have to agree with the people that say the cost of doing this is high. Yes @Keith- you point out that it is only twelve dollars a year but twelve dollars a year is a bit steep to show a pet in a forum imo. The cash shop is already overloading people with items to pay real money for. Yes, we have a choice and I for one spend a great deal of money in the cash shop. It is OUR choice. I personally would spend more money and time on this site if it were more consistent. The site goes up and down way too much. The lag is absolutely ridiculous, and I never know when I can actually get my wardrobe to load correctly anymore. Just sounding off...my opinion.
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Blir

I'm going to just step in here and echo everyone else who said PLEASE PLEASE remove the image on the Your Pets page. I know I can "just adblock it" or whatever, but I'd rather not adblock an actual Subeta item if I don't have to. A link by itself will do, won't it? As someone who has 20+ pets, having the silly image on the screen makes the page stretch out far as hell and it's a big eyesore to look at. If this were changed and just the link was added, I would have no problem with this feature. I still won't use it, but I'd rather not have my Pets page have 20 of this image on it... please?
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Monologue

I got confused for a second when I saw these after clicking my Pets tab. XD
Does this show overlays, too? Or just the official Subeta art?
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ghost_935

Cool :D but couldn't you just, you know, link to your pets in your signature or what have you?
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Sopheroo

Quote:
You don't need a GA for forum text sets...
Most people already have things in their forumsets. HA art, banners, clickable links.

Why should they sacrifice that?
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Rusty

An arcade is fun ;p
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Keith

I went to the arcade and all I got was this stupid high score :(
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Saga

Oh keyboard, why fail me now?
Of course I meant £16 is $25 not £25 - this is why £ and $ shouldn't be next to each other.
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ROCK

idk if Frankenchokies realizes how many CS items they are wearing :/ Even if they bought them w/ sp, by buying them, they are funding the people buying csc so they buy more csc...
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Saga

Frankenchokies;
(Again, I believe, late reply but I just want to let you know that I did read your response)

That aside, I agree with what you're saying but there are always the people who like to donate money and don't wish to buy a GA too. Yes they could buy the CSC then sell it for sP but then all they get is sP that can be easily gained through other methods like Sagittarius. I'm not saying doing this is bad - it gives CSC to users who won't, or can't, pay with real money and it earns extra sP - but you don't get much from it whereas Cash Shop items are something different and, in the case of things such as Delish items, something that can be collected. Also, yes, it would be more reasonable if this leash wasn't limited to 31 days a time. Even if it isn't possible to change the pet or the text without paying another 100 CSC, it would be nice to make it a feature permanent after paying the CSC so I agree there.

Theoretically, 100 CSC a month isn't too much - as Keith said, it's $12 a year (which is only £7.50 if I put it into my currency to relate it to my points in my last post - less money than I save pet week on bus fair through my week long ticket) - however it is still $12 that could be spent elsewhere even if that is elsewhere on the site - like on a GA - and, as has already been said, why pay CSC for a feature that you can have free through advertising your pet in your forum set? Admittedly I didn't think of this option before like I'm sure many others haven't but it's still a valid point - I'd far prefer to have all my pets names linked on my forum set or one linked through an image. It's free and can, if wanted, link more than one pet while this can't. I also have this feature disabled through custom CSS so it isn't as if the argument "you can hide people's forum sets but you can't hide this" could be relevant if anyone decided to argue that.

On a quick side note, $10 (after doing more conversions to GBP for myself) is far too low for any gym to have for membership here. As I said, mine is £16 (£25) a month which is a good deal seen as the next lowest I can find is £32 ($51) which is considered a reasonable price around here for gym membership - I have a lot of friends who are members of that gym for that matter and it isn't as if it's any better than the one I go to; in fact, I was told it's terrible.

Also, glad my post was likeable (let's hope that applies again) and thank you for your reply - I'm sure that replying to posts here isn't the most important thing you could be doing and it's nice to know you spend time to reply rather than making your point, telling everyone that they're wrong for disagreeing with you and then leaving as I have seen people doing on past news posts.
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Turtley

I like this idea, but I would pay maybe 3 or 4 hundred CSC for a permaleash instead of 100 csc for a monthly least.
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chic

Hmm, interesting idea. I won't be using it, but sounds like some of you will be.
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Literature

Wow some people are seriously pissed (and rude) about this feature. I dont see the problem at all. I think its a great feature and a neat way to show off pets. If you dont like it, dont buy it. Simple as that. There is no reason to be rude/hateful towards the site in general.

Expiring CSC items is not a new thing, so I dont understand the sudden rage. Bahaha
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Lotties

@WolfGirlReese
Pet headshots are not viewable on the forums, but they can now if the pet is leashed.
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Glint

The price seems high for the type of service and the duration of the service, but it's not like it gives you an advantage or deprives others. I don't see any harm in it.
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Wolfism

I thought this is what pet headshots were for :/
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Kitsune

Personally, I feel that this feature is a waste. :| I felt that way when I read it on the suggestion forum, and I feel that way now that it's released. But I guess that just means I won't pay for it. *shruggle*

What I DO like though is that it /was/ a suggested idea by the users. Glad to see our feedback getting consideration, and even being implemented. :D
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Proat

This seems like a really pointless item to pay real money for o.o
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Confection

@Frankenchokies: I can agree to death that at least one of your points is valid. People, as a WHOLE ENTITY, are getting stupider. Not that any specific individuals here nor there are stupid (because as you've said, Subetans tend to be very smart), but the general populous is showing increasing stupidity at a rapid rate that scares me. I honestly thought it was only the region I come from (very small town), but you're right in the fact that it tends to be spreading like wildfire. And I also agree that it isn't necessarily their fault. The society we live in encourages it. We have "No Child Left Behind" in America, but it sets every child to the same standard of education and expects them to learn more than ever before. Which causes them to retain less and just keeps strong learning children held behind. We're also becoming more self-centered, self-righteous, and bullheadedly opinionated people; to the point where no idea outside of our realm of 'right' can be considered....and that closed mindedness keeps us from learning too. I wanted to nod at that statement because I can appreciate where you're coming from vehemently with that.

What I don't necessarily agree with is your anger at this product. Your points are valid, don't get me wrong. Expiration is a turn off for any item, and virtual items especially should hold even less priority in terms of real-money needs. However, I just want to take one of your points and spin it on its head a bit to offer you a different view. You said paying for a movie is a completely different situation because you are paying for an experience. To some (many) game players, the game itself is an experience. They like to be immersed in it and take pride in how well they do. They love any option to make the game all the more what they want to see out of it, and because they enjoy it so, are willing to pay for that immersive experience in the same way you and I would pay for a movie. Perhaps to someone this item makes their time on Subeta all the more immersive and enjoyable; and in that sense, paying for that product, that experience, must make sense to you, somewhat, in the same way paying for the experience of a movie does.

Also, you mentioned that you think donating to the site via GA and the like is a conceivable use of money; perhaps to the users who enjoy this product that is their version of a "donation". They may not like the immersion GA gives, but this product satisfies their needs and gives them an option to donate. It just gives more options to give back to a site that many enjoy. I know you feel that Subeta makes enough money (or should be, I believe you said...which is probably true as well), but they are a business no matter how small, and all businesses want a margin of profit. Perhaps they'd like to treat their artists for a job well done all these years with a bonus; perhaps they want to buy a new server so the site moves faster. There is always expenses, but beyond that there are goals that will require more money than what's currently available. Supply and demand. We always need more money, no matter how much we have. And I agree that the feeling of seeing so much CSC release can feel like greed on their part, but I like to have hope that there is a "method to the madness", and that money has its purpose somewhere.

I'd like to also add that due to my family's values and personal outlook, I never purchase anything online. CSC purchases have never been and most likely never will be an option for me in the traditional cash sense (sP is my only option). So this item really doesn't matter much to me either way...but I was intrigued by many of your points and wanted to comment you. :)
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BonKo

Yay! Good for people that want to nominate their pets :)
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Lai

LOVE the idea. Hate the time limit, and the fact that most new things on the site have been connected to CSC in some way. I would LOVE it if it were connected to the gold account though, but I will most likely still buy one anyways :3 Thanks for still adding new things though.
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Deja

wait...like someone else mentioned...people can just put some banner images in their forumset/sig and show off their pets that way. Not exactly like this feature, but there are ways to show off your pets for free :o
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Jasper

You don't need a GA for forum text sets... Just how popular was this idea? o.O Doesn't seem all that well thought out IMO.
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RenBug

@NoirRaven
It was actually a user suggested feature for people who love their pets and wanted to show it off in forums and they actually ASKED for it to be a CSC item so that they had something to donate to the site with since the other items didn't really have much to do with existing completed pets. all there is is ways to add more pets or paint pets. So this was the way they felt they could continuously contribute to the site in a way that benefited them. As many of them didn't need a GA or other items as they don't care about minions or wardrobe.
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Kush

I just don't see the point in this especially for paying real cash for yet another feature that expires
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Sun_938

Oooh.I like this~
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Jasper

If you're really this desperate for cash Subeta, why not sell better merch? I mean, I spent $40 bucks on the site this month because of some of the October MC's. Do something like that but don't expect us to waste our money on things that expire/can only be used once. (Also, honestly, if someone is THAT desperate to show off their pets, they can make it a part of their forum set/signature for FREE.)
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demon

V tl;dr "waaah waaah waaah! you're all dumb loll!!!!!"
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Frankenchokies

Coppy:

Perhaps you need "hypocrite" defined for you, but someone who won't pay real cash for virtual items (me, I use sP) and is specifically bitching about something that EXPIRES so I won't buy it even with sP (me again) isn't a hypocrite. You = incapable of reading and understanding.

creatureofhabit:

I am more intelligent, yes. Don't you think you're more intelligent than the people you meet? I can't imagine what it'd be like to think I was stupider or less clever or talented or funny than everyone else and not dedicate my life to becoming better. Is that how you live, always thinking everyone else is better? Or worse yet, that we're all exactly the same so there's no point bettering oneself and having thoughts and standing out? I can tell you right now, just from reading your cohesive sentences, you ARE smarter than at least 70% of the people I meet at college, possibly more but what I'm going to say next is lowering your percentage a bit. Like Coppy, you need to look up "hypocrisy." How is it hypocritical for me to say kids are dumb? "Arrogant" I accepted, but "hypocrite" is way out there. I guess the you kids today have latched onto "hypocrite" without knowing what it means, too. I'll put that on my list-of-words-kids-chuck-around-without-understanding, right there under "literally."

Also they're not dumb because "THEY ARE KIDS." I'm not talking about 4-year-olds here. I'm talking about people ages 13-19 (maybe as young as 8 or as old as 26, I haven't really done an extensive study so I'm generalizing). Dumb as hell. Retarded dumb. Not dumb-because-they're-not-scholars, dumb dumb incapable of functioning in the world dumb. (That is, if the world weren't dumbed-down just for them.)

You have a lot of reactive rage for someone who obviously doesn't understand what I'm talking about. "Scholars" indeed. XD Yes, I expect them to be able to read Egyptian hieroglyphs and they CAN'T. *Gasp horror* No, I expect them to know that CGI imagery of dinosaurs isn't real footage (actual story of an 18-year-old in my class who thought it was, popular trendy non-mentally retarded guy, with popular trendy friends who didn't think it was a stupid question) and I expect them to know how to be able to string a coherent sentence together (which almost none can do, which I know from peer-reviewing a shit ton of these idiots' papers and stories in countless different settings) or to be able to grasp a single theme of a film we just watched two minutes ago (can't, can't, didn't get it, what was it about, what just happened, whuuuut??). You're sadly blind if you think people aren't stupid. People have always been stupid. It's simply a fact they're getting stupider because society encourages them to be brain-dead and incapable of actual thought but perfectly tanned and manicured and implanted. You MUST notice this. You must. And if you don't, you either live shut in a cave under a rock or you are one of them.

Puck_n_Loki:

Nope. I prefer it solitary up here than scrabbling around in the filth being unable to spell or define simple words or write simple sentences.

Snow:

I don't know that ad-space and GA purchases would be enough to keep the site running. I assume it because it seems obvious, but it could not be enough. However what I DO know is that all the other premium items sure pick up the slack (which we know to be fact or Subeta would be shut down right now), and that extra expiring-for-no-reason items don't need to exist. They are just a scam to squeeze more money out of members because, as has been illustrated here, people will pay for things that are unreasonable and justify it by saying "I can find pennies on the street!" Subeta doesn't NEED to make sense. People buy it anyway. I'm just pointing out that it doesn't make sense.

Also I didn't say gym memberships are unreasonable, I just said it's better to actually buy equipment yourself in the long run, which was a fairly unrelated side-point really, but I understand about your not having space and enjoying things like Zumba so I really don't think anyone who joins a gym is a complete money-wasting tool. I've belonged to gyms before. (I only go as high as $10 a month, though, because I think anything above that is getting a bit prohibitive and ridiculous.)

Your post pleased me for some reason. It's likeable. Thanks for the contribution.

hipster:

Debunked your point ages ago, bluuuuh.
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Vespertine

AWESOME. Now to pick a pet to leash....
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hipster

Hermes - no, I don't think it goes the other way. Not having one leashed doesn't mean someone isn't into pets, but having one leashed almost always will mean they are, since otherwise why would they bother? I just think its nice as something not everyone will do, so people who are only here for features other than pets won't have that common kumos they made a year ago as a joke and did nothing with linked on the forums. I don't read it as necessary for people who do things with their pets, but it's definitely unnecessary for those who don't

On an unrelated note, yours are some of my favourite pets to creep
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Patience_363

One little thing though, can we have a text link and not the pic on the pets page?

It looks awful and I feel like its being crammed down my throat little.
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hermes

"so when someone has a pet leashed you'll know they're actually into pets." I'm into pets but I don't want this leash - does that make me unqualified to be into my pets? I'm one of the countries where offers don't work, so, no, I can't just ~go do an offer~.

Nagging aside, I knew some wanted this, so nice to see it finally released.
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Jane

I think this is a really great idea! :3
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Patience_363

This is pretty neat.
I feel like its maybe something that we should be able to do without paying 2.5mil or 100CSC on everymonth though :/

I dont make sP very much due to working alot.
I dont make alot of £ cause I pay bills alot.

Nice idea though :)
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Cathii

I would also love a 6 months/1 year package with slight discount. For convenience I guess haha
Love the idea, finally pets get a spotlight!
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waterfall

I wish there was an option to purchase it for a year. Maybe even discounted to 1k or something. For me it's more the convenience of not having to renew things every month, the ooh la layers already annoy me enough. xD (yes, majorly lazy, but i barely get enough time to do things as it is lately)
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Anders

I really like this idea and plan on getting, you can easily get 100 CSC through offers it's really not that hard honestly. Though I do think that it would be better if it came with a gold account as a perk, but I love my pets enough that I'm willing to go and earn the 100 CSC through offers.
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hipster

To everyone freaking out about real money for virtual things that expire - ever gone to the movies? Rented a movie? Anything similar? It's not a tangible thing you can keep, it costs money (usually over $10 for a couple hours), doesn't last, but is widely considered worth it due to the enjoyment it brings. There are tons of other examples of similar concepts.

Also I will never understand why people get so offended when things cost CSC. This is no different than if it was 2.5mil in the Millionaire Centre. You can choose to buy it with sP, or you can pay real money for CSC. They're quite easily interchangeable once on the site, and it's each individual user's prerogative which they'd like to do.

I do love this though - not everyone will buy it, so when someone has a pet leashed you'll know they're actually into pets. I'm excited to leash one of mine, just need to decide which.
The forums are starting to look a little busy though. I wonder if there's a way to design them so that HAs, little HA hearts, pets, post counts etc look a little more streamlined. Not a desperate need obviously, but looking into that could be worthwhile (I've been messing around with rearranging things and it's not an easy task haha, but I'm sure something will work nicely, and it's not like it's horrible right now at all) c:
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Alchemy

The idea is fine, but can the image link on the pet page be removed? Its bulky. I think I text-only link would be fine.
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Arthur_786

I'm never unhappy when new features/items come out. If it's not worth it to me I simply won't buy it. Relax with the complaints.

This one's not something I'll pay 100CSC for, but it would make a good gift for some of my friends with awesome pets. Thanks Subeta Team :)
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Allegria

Hmmmmm... Nah.
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fallenkitsune

I wont need it but i know some people have spent hours on the pet pages and want to show them off.

Oh and guys no feeding the trolls, they make such a mess. It totally isnt worth it.
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RenBug

@PiRan
Plus then you know if you click on one of the pets you wont be taken to some blank page or some pet someone just linked to caue they could and wanted to. This way you know if you click the pet there's something amazing. something someone put a lot of time and thought into.
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RenBug

@PiRan
I just feel its better to pay the 100CSC. its a way pet fans can help the site since till now the only pet csc items were potions at least for existing pets already. and if your pets already colored there's nothing pet enthusiasts can donate money to. So users actually suggested this idea AND the fact it cost 100 CSC to hopefully help the site.

Everyone already has a 'free' version of this if you hover over a users name you see their active pet. this is more of a bonus feature to have a pet and a text under your HA. i think 3 pennies or 64k a day isn't something outrageous to ask.
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Amon

I'm happy about the new feature and I don't think 100 CSCs are too much to enjoy it. ;)
And so far it's working without troubles so even more yay! :D
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Julia

Sorry, I meant @Zombie, not creatureofhabit.
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Julia

@creatureofhabit
That does sound elitist.

Everyone should be able to use this feature. -.- End of story.

I'd like to use this someday. :)
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Christina

I thought this would add a leashed version of the HA, which would have been a lot more awesome than this... So i got all excited for nothing. =x
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Saturnine

I would use it! Probably next month!
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RenBug

@Puck_n_Loki

Yea and the fact you spend that dollar instead of it free with a GA or free at all really makes it stand out so you know your going to see something awesome. -^_^- Its a nice feeling to know that the people who truly care about there pets and put all the time and effort into them don't have to wait for a single day of fame in the spot light that may never come they ca just use this ad post in the forums and people will actually realize " oh that pet must be awesome" and check it out.
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Otter

For those that dont want to buy a GA ( I know I find that odd to but ehhh different strokes)but want the feature having as a cash shop item seems a good idea.Another way for the site to generate money.However most other site have this as a default setting.Yes Subeta isn't other sites and blazes its own path.That is the reason we are all here and not there.So while the While the price is not the issue I do believe that since it expires it should have been another incentive to buy a GA item.Yes I know there are lots of people that do not focus on nor want to spotlight there pets or actually see others pets due to load issues on the forums .Maybe a setting that turns it off on forums like the setting for profiles in shops? Being totally coding inept I am not sure if that's possible.
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Ravage

Would it be possible to change the petpage? Having many pets stretches it out and it looks quite ugly (specially with no previews). A neat idea though, I am just afraid of what people will come up with for their description.
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Straywillow

I probably won't use it but see how some may like it however I DO hope the fairly large icons on the pet page are removed and simply a click added like all the other pet page choices.
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Iknimaya

Zombie- same. Quite frankly I do think pets have become secondary on subeta, which is another reason I'm okay with this costing money here but not on neopets. HAs, from what I've seen. are what the majority focuses on. This shows me people who care enough about their pets to spend 2mil/$1 a month to get me to look.
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RenBug

creatureofhabit
Its not an actual item you buy it from the pet page. If you want to use SP you need to buy a 100 CSC card.

slaVIC
I don't know if this comes out elitist but I kind of hope it Isn't a feature for everyone or all GA's.

The more people who have it the less likely anyone will pay attention to it. its like trying to find a single person in a huge croud. Were as right now its like putting someone among a huge crowd but on a pedestal so you know when you click on the pet there was a lot of effort put into it. the moment its available to all GA's with how many people have gold acount itll be like 3 of every 4 accounts will have a pet under there avatar stretching the forum pages and all fighting for attention.

This way itj ust seems more special i guess. And it'll help if you want to get nominated for pet spot light without acking for the nomination. the more people the less likely.

Puck_n_Loki
Yea it just draws attention to the pets and you just have feeling thouse pets that are features must have SOMETHING special be it a story or battle stats or layout or SOMETHING -^_^- Ive found quite a few amazing pets so far thanks to this.
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Saga

Frankenchokies;
(Yes I know I'm late to the conversation)

Without trying to make an argument out of this, I'm college student (okay so maybe English colleges are different to American ones if you are from America) who has next to no money because I have to pay for food, bus fair, books and so on while I'm unable to get a job - I have no idea where I'm getting the money from in all honesty. My fifty-five year old mum has paid for CSC for me before because she knows I like coming on Subeta and it's sort of a treat for me between all my homework and the tonnes of volunteer work I find myself doing. Therefore, age isn't a factor in this argument.

500 CSC is about £3.14 (if google is correct) which would last five months if I wanted to leash my pets - which, honestly, I don't but that's just because all my pets are far from being finished and I don't want to stretch my posts from this anyway. That aside, my bus fair to and from college is £8 a day unless I buy a week long ticket which is only £9.50. £8 times by the four days I'm at college is £32 (and I sometimes use more than that going into town and so on) so I'm saving at least £22.50 through getting my week long ticket with is way more than enough to buy 500 CSC each month if I wanted therefore I don't think any CSC brought items are unreasonable and all of them help to keep the site running - not just the GAs; how do you know the amount spent on buying GAs would be enough to keep this site going each month?

As for gym memberships, just while I'm here, I don't see how it would be unreasonable to pay for them monthly? I can afford £16.00 a month to go to the gym but a larger amount to buy the equipment at home is impossible for me - any spare money I have is spent on college things usually so I wouldn't be able to save the money. Also, what about space? I don't have room to store exercise bikes, treadmills, different weight machines, cross trainers and so on - all of which I use at the gym. The fact that my membership also lets me attend classes (body combat, Zumba, yoga, spinning, LBT...) is pretty amazing because they're not things I can just casually do at home. Sure there's a Zumba game for the Wii now, for example, but it's not the same as attending the class.

~~~

That aside, I like this leash idea though I won't be using it myself P:
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Iknimaya

I think this feature is pretty nifty, and honestly I'll probably use it more to look at other people's pets then people having it in their siggy/forumset just on the basis I tend to ignore most siggies/forumsets. And when I finish any of my pets I'll probably use it.

@Frankenchokies

Is it lonely up there on your pedestal?
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Slavic

Yeah, Zombie, I see where you're coming from!!
Which is why I said that if people want to pay for this simply because they don't find the GA features to be worth it for them, it should be an option of course!

But I've noticed a majority of ~pet obsessed~ people seem to always have GAs since.. slots need active GAs to function LOL. :D

I bought one anyway because 2 mill isn't that steep, and I really wanted to try this feature out, but I still think that it just should be free to GA members. xDD
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CATNIP

although I cannot find it in any user shops - it says the item doesn't exist...
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CATNIP

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Yea it is sad but 3 pennies a day isn't bad. you can find that pretty easily in a parking lot. Its just if it didn't expire it probably cost a lot more and some people wont want it indefinitely forever under their avatar Some may just want it to show it off in hopes it gts nominated for spot light. It just seems like something that would be better as a 'pay as you use' sort of deal instead of $10 - 25 dollars forever and ever and ever.

Tho trust me i see both sides on this. i know its a pain but i feel the way it was handles is probably for the best despite its potential short comings with certain groups.

Only think i think that could have been better is how it makes the pet page look with all the images. It would have been nicer like oh la layers as an item you buy and can sell and can put in treasure chests. I'm sure it would pull in more revenue that way as well.
Good point again. It would cost more if it was permanent. I've reconsidered my "testing" this. I'll give it a try for a month, see where it gets me. I like the idea of it being shown off for more visibility for the pet profile award. And to just show off my pet, period. So I think I'll give it a try. I always tell myself don't throw the baby out with the bath water....
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Choco

Seeing the people saying "I could just do it myself" is amusing me to no end.
I don't see you using it, so stop complaining about it when there are people who like the feature and are willed to pay for it.

I think it's a bit sad you're charging money for four lines of coding, though.
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Vaixation

I think the idea is interesting, but I wouldn't pay for it. Maybe if it was a GA feature, but otherwise, nah. Not when I could either use the CSC on pet slots or sell it to get some more sP.
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Lion

Shit I'm considering this.
I love my pets, I wanna show them off.

100 CSC isn't too big of a deal when I have a little bit to spare.
Thanks (:
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kudzu

I like the idea, but I won't be spending my CSC on it if it's not permanent.
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demon

olololol you guys stop feeding the troll
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RenBug

@creatureofhabit
Yea it is sad but 3 pennies a day isn't bad. you can find that pretty easily in a parking lot. Its just if it didn't expire it probably cost a lot more and some people wont want it indefinitely forever under their avatar Some may just want it to show it off in hopes it gts nominated for spot light. It just seems like something that would be better as a 'pay as you use' sort of deal instead of $10 - 25 dollars forever and ever and ever.

Tho trust me i see both sides on this. i know its a pain but i feel the way it was handles is probably for the best despite its potential short comings with certain groups.

Only think i think that could have been better is how it makes the pet page look with all the images. It would have been nicer like oh la layers as an item you buy and can sell and can put in treasure chests. I'm sure it would pull in more revenue that way as well.
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orangecake

Almost every other pet site I've played on has this as a default option, so Subeta is not only late, but...charging for something that other sites give away for free. :/ I guess the option to have a description there is something I haven't really seen before, but, as much as I love my pets, I'm not super keen to spend an extra dollar on a pet site just to show off my pets.
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CATNIP

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slaVIC & creatureofhabit
There are some people who don't want that feature who have a GA and with howe many people have GA's it would clutter the forum pages a lot if all GA's had it. This is an extra to show your pets you cherish since the fewer of these there are the more likly you will notice when you run into one and may go check out the page
Yah you got a point. I just wish it didn't expire, that's all. I understand what Keith said below, AFTER I posted my comment. oops. So you and Keith have a good point. I guess it's just a matter of me not having any money anymore since I lost my job. Oh well.. c'est la vie!
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Pinto

I totally agree with SLAvic. This is a pet site, why do we have to pay to show off our pets? I realize that avatars are also a part of the site, but making you pay [in SP or usd] to display your pets on the forums? That seems a bit ridiculous to me. Isn't this a pet site? Or is it just an avatar community that happens to have pets as well? We don't have to pay to display our human avatars. I could just as easily take an image of one of my pets, throw it in my forumtext or signature and put a description at the bottom. For free.

Why wasn't this an option to show either a pet as an 'avatar', or your HA? Not everyone on the site dresses up their avatar, and not everyone on the site does much with their pets. There should be an option to choose between the two. Not something you have to pay for, that only lasts for 30 days.
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CATNIP

@frankencho-whatever the hell your name is...
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Further, I'm certainly not saying that the younger generation lives on the internet. I use the internet way more than anyone I've ever met who's younger than me. They use Facebook more than I do of course, since I don't use it at all, but as for simple hours-clocked I've got 'em beat by far. And while I'm at it, though it's only vaguely related, I also don't think that the younger generation is more proficient with computers/electronics than the older generation. Maybe the old old generation, like people over 50, but once again I myself am far more knowledgeable about anything relating to computers or electronics than anyone younger than me. (People tend to think that being fast at thumb-typing on a cellphone makes a kid super-proficient with technology, but seriously these kids are freakin' idiots who can't do anything.)

And while I don't believe that all teenagers are hoodlums (hellshit I wish they were but the opposite is true, actually; they're more emotionless and far less angry than they should be), I do believe kids are getting dumber. I mean they were dumb when I was a kid because most everyone's dumb, but holy cow are they dumber than ever! (Maybe not dumber than they were in the middle ages, but I wasn't there so I dunno.) I go to college with people 10 years my junior and they are seriously. Seriously. Stupid. So freaking stupid it's like literal brain damage, but they get by in the world because it's increasingly functionally retarded and illiterate just like they are. The world is breeding them to be stupid, because everything's user-friendly and nothing requires thought. Not even a degree. You pay for it, you don't think for it. Kids = dumb. Not just my opinion, but fact. Several studies have been done to confirm this. I'd look them up and cite them, but my generation's lazy.
You are such an asshat! You berate young kids because you think they're dumb? THEY ARE KIDS you idiot!!!! What else do you expect from them? To be full pledged scholars? YOU are the idiot who keeps making these inflammatory comments. YOU are the idiot that thinks it's necessary to berate children. Even adults! What are you, elite? You act like you're more intelligent than everyone else. How arrogant can you be? This has become more than a 'item from the cash shop that expires' situation. You have blown it WAAAAY out of proportion. What you say reflects upon you, you know. The more you open your mouth the more hypocrisy spills from it.
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RenBug

slaVIC & creatureofhabit
There are some people who don't want that feature who have a GA and with howe many people have GA's it would clutter the forum pages a lot if all GA's had it. This is an extra to show your pets you cherish since the fewer of these there are the more likly you will notice when you run into one and may go check out the page

And there are already about 4 people I've counted with no GA but this pet add on. why pay 5 dollars for everything else if all you want it the pt add on on the forums.

And slaVIC if you hover over your name you see the active pet. This is more the convenience to see a second pet or see the main pet without having to hover just to bring more attention to it.
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CATNIP

@Megan

it is a cash shop item.
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CATNIP

I agree with slaVIC. It should have been a gold account feature, not a cash shop one. I just can't see spending more money each month to renew the leash option. It's like the Ooh La Layers book.... now that I don't mind because you can buy it in user shops for cheap. Even tho it lasts 31 days as well, it doesn't bother me to buy more. So as a frequent cash shopper, this one I won't be spending my money on. Sorry....
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Coppy

Very cute!
@Frankenchokies...I didn't even have to look any further your HA to find CS items. So In some way you have actually "paid for virtual items" you=hypocrite.
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Megan_799

I think this should be an item in the cash shop instead. (Kinda like the OLL)
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Slavic

I just... can't believe I am saying this but why do I not have to pay even one cent to show off my ~AVATAR~, but if I want to show off my pet... on a supposed pet site.. it costs me real money or some sP?

...
Maybe I'm just stupid but I don't understand..

I really believe this should have been a Gold Account add-on instead, and an optional purchase-on for non-GA accounts.
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Milieu

Awesome! ^-^ People need to stop complaining about the price. You can bu the CSC from user shops pretty cheap. =)
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lissesul

Lord love A DUCK
I want one for my gallery!!!!

LORD love a Duck
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RenBug

@mist
Yea its all personal preference i guess. I'll use it . and I've seen others use it as well. I have some huge as hell post in the feedback forum tho over my opinion on it XD don't want to stretch this page out that much tho.
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Tabby_268

Looks like the drama llama itself came in here and spewed it's throw up all over this page.

It'd be nice if this was a feature for GA's though. But ah, I won't be complaining. I'll leave that job to other people.
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Andrea

Was about to buy this sooo fast, but apparently pet's have gotten lumped into forum sets :|

Which means as someone who has full forums turned off... this awesome new thing is useless to me as it stands now -___-;;

Wish there was a way to make HA gtfo my forums completely, and see these instead ): UGH.
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Chansey

Nice but I won't use it and I do not like to a leash my pets haha XD
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SlayerWolf

Frankenchokies
you seem to like to troll. I am 33 and have 0 credit cards or cell phone and have spent around a hundred or so cash a year on here.. cause it makes me happy beyond what i have earned through free offers or bought with points it seems some are never happy.. if you don't like the site well the door is ------> Me i love this site whether or not i care to use various options
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wyrm

@Zombie

I typed that and then realized most people don't hover. This is the result of 6 in the morning. |D
I still feel it's a bit lackluster, but it's nice. c:
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RenBug

@mist
It's nice since it doesn't need to be the active pet. I train Demitre so hes usually my active pet (except right now Keel is) but i want to show off Pylot. and now no one needs to hover its just IN YOUR FACE XD

Since hovering over Every user is something I don't see many doing. but if you worked on your pet and want your pet to be nominated show them off that way since its sure to get views. Ive been looking at all the ones I've seen so far to see the effort put into the pets.
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Rayen

As a 24 year old, Frankenchokies, your logic really baffles me...one of my best friends is 29 and I hardly think you 'speak' for most of the 'pre-internet' generation. People will spend their money on what they want and what is important to them. And just because someone is younger doesn't make them less educated or less experienced in the world (I know quiet a few young adults 18-20 that have been through a crap ton more stuff in their lives and are more mature then some of my friends my own age). So stop stereotyping. Really. It's also been a proven fact that generations are getting smarter. If you don't have a higher I.Q. then your parents, by today's standers something is a bit off (I apologize if that means I am calling someone stupid). And as for 'College' most people don't take it seriously, which is a sad but true fact. Not everyone matures at the same rate either.

Other users asked for this sort of feature, let them be happy with it. No one is holding a gun to your head and making you buy or use this feature. If someone works for their SP/$$$ let them spend it the way they wish.
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wyrm

A bit lackluster, since people could just hover over your username and essentially get the same thing. But I'm sure I'll be flaunting Zaire soon enough. xD
A bit scared to see how people used that character bit. Clutter. Clutter everywhere. |D
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Anberlin

...Disregarding all the drama in here, I quite like it. Might try it out one day if I ever finish a pet, haha. <3
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Frankenchokies

NO U!
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demon

shh frankenchokies you are starting to get silly now. ;)
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Frankenchokies

Jenni:

I said age and culture. Not "Everyone under 29 doesn't know how to cherish a dime." Considering it is a fact that everyone under a certain age will have grown up with the internet and furthermore that it is a fact that growing up with the internet creates a whole different culture than NOT growing up with it, then it follows that those under a certain age will be a part of a different culture - an internet culture - than those over a certain age. So for the youngers, it will be quite a normalized idea to spend real money on fake things. That's not the same as saying, "Everyone young wastes their money."

Further, I'm certainly not saying that the younger generation lives on the internet. I use the internet way more than anyone I've ever met who's younger than me. They use Facebook more than I do of course, since I don't use it at all, but as for simple hours-clocked I've got 'em beat by far. And while I'm at it, though it's only vaguely related, I also don't think that the younger generation is more proficient with computers/electronics than the older generation. Maybe the old old generation, like people over 50, but once again I myself am far more knowledgeable about anything relating to computers or electronics than anyone younger than me. (People tend to think that being fast at thumb-typing on a cellphone makes a kid super-proficient with technology, but seriously these kids are freakin' idiots who can't do anything.)

And while I don't believe that all teenagers are hoodlums (hellshit I wish they were but the opposite is true, actually; they're more emotionless and far less angry than they should be), I do believe kids are getting dumber. I mean they were dumb when I was a kid because most everyone's dumb, but holy cow are they dumber than ever! (Maybe not dumber than they were in the middle ages, but I wasn't there so I dunno.) I go to college with people 10 years my junior and they are seriously. Seriously. Stupid. So freaking stupid it's like literal brain damage, but they get by in the world because it's increasingly functionally retarded and illiterate just like they are. The world is breeding them to be stupid, because everything's user-friendly and nothing requires thought. Not even a degree. You pay for it, you don't think for it. Kids = dumb. Not just my opinion, but fact. Several studies have been done to confirm this. I'd look them up and cite them, but my generation's lazy.

(By the way, my sweeping statements aren't as sweeping as they appear. While there are enough kids getting dumber than ever that it's pretty much accurate to say "All kids are dumb now," obviously it's a slight exaggeration. There are exceptions. Subeta in fact, like Gaia, seems to attract some of the more gifted and less stupid kids. Of course they're still emotionally stunted and completely controlled by their government and media and as such incapable of entertaining autonomous thoughts, but they're not stupid in the way that I mentioned earlier... the kind of dumb, bumbling, functional illiteracy.)
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Jenni

@Frankenchokies
Okay honestly what? You are blaming age groups?
Just because they are younger doesn't mean they all live on the internet, even ones on here may not be THAT active. I'm 20-sure I have Paypal and online banking, and I may have bought a GA here and there in the four years I've been here, but I don't spend a lot of money on virtual stuff, as I have grown up in a frugal family, it's not about age or internet, it's the person itself. Don't group everyone together, it's like saying all teenagers are hoodlums...
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Jenni

I don't think I'll ever use this. xD
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RenBug

Opps premature send.

@BoaConstrictor
No problem tho i didn't really do anything. XD
And yea probably wold be more profitable but its just a shame seeing such stretched pet pages. >_< then theres people with evenmore pets then me.

@Potter
Exactly. I know for me i don't really spoil myself with things like shoes or cloths. Its nice getting to spoil myself on a site i spend countless hours on. If I'm on the computer I'm on subeta so its defiantly money well spent. More well spent then an ice cream cone that will only last a few minutes before its dripping all over me or some other thing XD. Since the $$ i spend helps gt me that much closer to my goals on site.
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RenBug

@Demian
You can pay for it with SP. You buy the CSC card from another users shop. -^_^- There's also ways to make CSC for free in the forums and in the csc shop itself with the 'earn csc' promotions thing.
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BoaConstrictor

Thanks Able & Zombie.
Cash Shop would be better altogether, yet I guess, yet they get more reminder/incentive/customers of the feature with having it on the pets page.

Grantedly 1 $ isn't a fortune, nowadays, even though I bend down for much less, if I find a coin in the street, lol, and therefore site would only profit, if it became a widely used feature, which I can't really see happening, judging from most comments here. I certainly won't. Probably wouldn't even, if it was for free - the pet appears in your avatar hoover, I don't have any story for the pets,...
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SaraZima

This looks very interesting, but I think it would be better if there was an option to pay with sP for it. I simply stopped buying CSC when $ got extremely expensive in my country.
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Potter

@Frankenchokies
Condensation doesn't help you win arguments, just saying.

I agree that this is totally a luxury add-on. Just like a GA. And every other Cash Shop item. And all the money made from Cash Shop purchases go towards supporting the site. How is this any different?

You may visit a billion sites a day, but the people who will pay for this feature and other Cash Shop items spend many hours a day on Subeta. These people DO get something measurable out of paying for these luxury add-ons on Subeta--it gives them joy and entertainment. An experience to share with friends on Subeta. What have you. Much like watching a movie in a theater.

The implementation of this feature took time and money. The backbone of the site that made this feature possible (e.g. forums, pets) also cost time and money.

Also, fyi, this feature was first suggested by an user, specifically to be a Cash Shop feature. So it's not like Subeta created this out of thin air to SCAM people, lol.

I mean, I see your point, that to most people, paying real cash for virtual pixels?!! seems like of crazy. But I think we'll have to agree to disagree, because you view this as your hard-earned cash going towards something you don't really care about, while I see this as 2 million Subeta Points for my pet's headshot to display next to my every post for a month (and I use the forums a lot--kind of wishing you had posted on the Site Feedback board!).
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RenBug

Ohh Sweet thanks for the info Able.

And yea text would be a lot less page stretching for people with a lot of pets. or have it be a CSC item like oh la layers so you can just activate it the same way oh la layers works.
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Able

Some things:
It isn't one click, the image takes you through to another page where you can then add a month.
You can change the text below your pet whenevs, as far as I can tell.
I also wish the picture-link was a text-link.

*Hoard, oh god oh god typo, I'm hyperventilating. It's because I was thinking of WoW.
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Loving

Nice feature, but useless for me since I rarely use the forums. If I did avidly use the forums, I'd think about it, but I wouldn't be overly enthusiastic about it disappearing each month.
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RenBug

@BoaConstrictor
Seriously my 20 pets have a what looks like never ending page with all the images. ;A;

Not sure if its one click. I may check it out since I may want to let Demitre get some spot light for a little while. If i do ill tell you XD so you know if you need to be extra careful.
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BoaConstrictor

I also hate the image/link on the "pets" page for taking up too much space, stretching the overview, 10 pets don't fit on a page, as it was (let alone more for many people). Also I hope it's not a one-click payment, like autotraining used to be in the beginning, so you don't accidentally buy, when you click on a space in the window.
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RenBug

@Katharos
It was the best things I could think of since even if you make your own coffee the beans probably cost 3.50 for a bag and last a month so the item is still cheaper then the morning coffee. tho its all a preference on what people want or can afford really. If someone truly wanted this item I'm sure they could find a dollar or 2 mill sp to spare since people can buy CSC with SP or for free by doing the promotions.
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Tjulan

Nobody has to buy it- if you want do it... if you don't want don't do it.
I don't spend any real money the last 2 years- I always buy CSCs in Usershop. There are a lot of people with lots of money and less time to make sp- so they sell CSC. Thanks for this.

I know so much people who play WoW. It cost real money, too. Or they have pay TV. It cost real money.
A realy realy waste of money? Smoking. Nothing left than an earlier dead. THATS waste of money.

Everybody with sounds, apps or anything else on his handy- isn't that a waste, too?

So you see... there are many ways to wast money.
Here you're donating a realy good petside- not some cigarette lobby. No waste for me.
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Phoenix_908

I think it's funny that people are comparing this to the price of, say, a new book or daily coffee because, yeah, I'd love to buy new books and have daily Starbucks, but I'm cheap so I use the library and make my own lousy coffee. :P Needless to say, I won't be buying this feature. Don't get me wrong, it's awesome, but it is prohibitively expensive for me. I'd feel differently if it didn't expire.
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Able

As a gamer who drops monthly subscription fees for the games I play, all this rage over payment is baffling to me.
That said, I wish this were attached to my gold account so I could spend my CSC on useful things, like twenty more liability wavers to horde and/or give out.

(But I like this feature.)
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finch

Frankenchokies --
My mother is twice your age and understands buying items on a website. I don't think it's your age sry2say.
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Frankenchokies

CuDi: For reals? Going to the movies? You're comparing that with buying virtual items on a random website? XD Going to the movies, or an amusement park for that matter, is an experience that you're paying for. One you're going to remember. (Or at least will if you don't go to lame, forgettable movies - which I don't.) I dunno about you friend, but I visit like a billion websites a day, so paying real money for a scarf on my avatar on one of them isn't really memorable to me.

Potter: Monthly gym memberships are different, because of course what you're renting is space that costs a lot of money. (In fact monthly gym memberships specifically are a waste of money because in most cases it's best to just buy what you need rather than "renting" time at the gym, but I see the point you're making so yeah.) Further you're also getting something measurable out of it, be it weight-loss or muscle-gain. In theory anyway, assuming you're doing it right. So yeah, still not throwaway like virtual items.

Back to CuDi but still related to Potter by the way, screening a movie costs money for the theater. They have to pay for the film, the space, the upkeep, the employees. Subeta doesn't have to pay for that scarf-on-the-avatar. They have to pay for server space and artists/programmers, all of which is covered by ads and by Gold Accounts (which I've already said I agree with). This small little pay-for-31-days crap on random items is random and unnecessary. I mean the whole big issue of money-for-virtual-items aside, THIS new expiring thing is a completely random and unnecessary scam.

Of course, what this all boils down to is age and culture. I'm 29, which apparently means I come from a time when money bought things, or at the very least experiences, and you guys are presumably young and seem to have come from a time when the internet was always around and money isn't really real to you, you rarely actually hold it in your hand because you all have credit cards and internet-accessible bank accounts and ways to pay for things with your cellphone, and it's completely NORMAL to you to pay for things that aren't actually there when in fact, I'm sorry to apparently have to be the first to tell you, it's insane. You're all crazy. You all think it's normal but it's not, however the depression we're in is only going to get worse before it gets better and time will prove me right and you wrong once it all falls down around you and you're making $100 a year and Subeta wants $500 a month to keep its servers going because inflation is ridiculous and your corporate overlords have completely enslaved you. BWA HA HA. (No but seriously, I'll be proven right soon. And I can wait.)

Also you damn whipper-snappers need to stay off my lawn.
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Hyrule_977

I like what a big deal this has become.. xD oh such drama we create over every little change. Its a cool idea, I don't think Id invest in it though since I rarely go on the forums. ^^
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RenBug

Frankenchokies
If it was part of GA I would hope it would be optional since i know a lot of people who wouldn't like that and a lot of people who would hate how stretched the forums may become.

XD Yay I'm not crazy! Tho yea i buy to suppost. i spend the $$ t then i sell the CSC so others who don't want to use real money don't have to. Plus the SP helps support my avid battling addiction on site. since i don't want to see subeta end up like some OTHER sites I'm sure we all know about.

Pings would be so nice >_< its habit from the forums i keep putting the @

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I wonder tho if our coupon codes can be used on these. doubt it as its not in the cash shop but it be nice if you could us it with a coupon code like other non Cash Chop Card and GA purchases. And does anyone know if you can change the words under the pet picture within the month. I would assume so but just want to make sure if anyone knows.
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Potter

er, but caveat, i don't actually spend real $ on subeta, because i am not financially well off enough to do so. :P
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Potter

@Frankenchokies
there are real things in the real world that "expire" though. what about services that you pay by the hour? do you think monthly gym memberships are a scam?

I actually see no difference between something that costs CSC vs something that costs, say, tokens. csc and tokens are both available for sp. to me, there's no real difference between paying $5 for csc and spending it immediately versus paying $5 for csc, selling the csc for tokens. csc is just another form of currency on this site. ~shrug~
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Sarai

"Frankly anyone who would pay actual money for something virtual is toeing the line of having no concept of money and worth..."

LOL. So do you ever go to the movies? You get nothing in return but to watch a picture for a couple of hours, then its gone forever, too.

Like this idea. Appropriately priced. Etc etc.
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Frankenchokies

Zombie:

Paying for virtual things I don't understand, but wanting to support a site you enjoy I DO understand. Were I rich, I might throw some money Subeta's way just because I like the site, but yeah... simply BUYING virtual items just baffles me. So okay, you're not completely crazy. ;)

I wish pings worked on these News comments. :/
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Frankenchokies

Klassikal:

It's not different. Ooh La Layers is the exact same kind of bullshit scam, and I protested vehemently against those in the beginning as well.

The Gold Account is about the only expiring-must-be-renewed thing I will accept, as it does give you access to different features it's sort of a staple of sites like these, a way for them to make money, and Subeta IS good in that it allows users to sell CSC for sP so that if you don't REALLY want to spend real money you don't have to.

Of course, why not have this leash thing be an aspect of the Gold Account? I mean if it's that super awesome it must be limited. Because a Gold Account expiring is one thing that's sensible and easy to keep track of, but all this other expiring-item crap is just confusing and unnecessarily opportunistic. Because seriously, WHY does this thing last for 31 days? It makes no more sense than the Ooh La Layers being temporary. Why not just make having a signature at all temporary or being able to post on the forum only lasts 31 days then you have to pay CSC to be able to or...
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Rayen

Hmm, neat idea, may or may not use it. I guess it's the 'link pet image in siggy' vs a CSC 'official' link comparison for me. We can technically already -do- this with forum text?
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RenBug

@Frankenchokies
I'm one of the crazy ones then i suppose. As I always have a Gold account and i donate about 20 dollars a month. I justify it as its cheaper then a daily morning coffee ( Starbucks 1 'large' coffee is like the price of a GA) . So its sort of my 'guilty pleasure' that i allow myself to splurge on. or going to clubs or bars with friends when we can just chill at a friends place.

But I also think of it as a way to keep the site running since I'd rather donate to subeta then have ads on every square inch of free space. (like quite a few other sites have done and it annoyed the hell out of me) . Sadly with how much memory all the images and all the forums and things the site probably does cost quite a bit of money. That's probably why it expires. Since its just more memory to be used. if it was to be forever it probably need to raise the price quite a lot in case someone wants to keep it for 10 years. why charge 2000 csc if some people may only want a brief bragging right since not everyone will always want the pet under there avatar.

Honestly it takes a lot for me to cop an attitude or be rude to someone. Id rather save it and release full fury on the few who truly deserve it XD

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And to all asking for the art to be hidden or least let it be a cash shop item you buy like Oh La Layers i second it. its sad having my page strech so far.
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Sefyra

My only confusion is why this couldn't always be done O.o It always did feel like pets went to the back-burner on the forums.
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Spider

Interesting. It's nice, but I probably won't ever use it. I love my pets, and have all kinds of stuff in the works for them, but I'd rather use my CSC to commission someone for more art or something.

I do hope the leash button can be hidden or something though. It is rather bothersome :C
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Klassikal

Quote by Frankenchokies:
Naturally you can get CSC for sP or for free on the forums, but the argument here is actual money. Frankly anyone who would pay actual money for something virtual is toeing the line of having no concept of money and worth, and anyone who would pay actual money for something that EXPIRES is insane. Full stop. You're crazy.
How is it any different than paying for a Gold Account, Ooh La Layers or any other item in the cash shop? :/ I really don't understand where you're coming from.
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Frankenchokies

Zombie:

Naturally you can get CSC for sP or for free on the forums, but the argument here is actual money. Frankly anyone who would pay actual money for something virtual is toeing the line of having no concept of money and worth, and anyone who would pay actual money for something that EXPIRES is insane. Full stop. You're crazy.

But all that aside, the problem is simply that this item does expire. There's no reason for it. Whether it cost sP or CSC, there's NO reason for this item to expire. It's a slippery-slope to having more and more items that expire, which is basically just like paying for a magazine subscription only you get no REAL items so having to subscribe to everything on the site which, and I know it's repetitive but it's worth repeating, is VIRTUAL is just... unacceptable.

However having said all that, I'm trying to reel in my snarkiness a bit. I was a bit more irritated than I meant to be with my first post, and you're being entirely civil. So while I don't agree with you, I DO apologize for my tone and thank you for being the bigger man or woman and not responding with a furthering of hostilities as you could have. :)
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RenBug

@Frankenchokies
I never said you cant Dislike the price or make a comment on it. Ive complained about a lot but going out and shouting how people are crazy or rich just since they have 12 dollars a year or 1 dollar a month is a bit excessive. 100 pennies, 20 nickles 10 dimes or 4 quarters are not hard to come by every month. If someone spent millions training and filling the TC and making back story's that $1 or 1.9 - 2.5 mill SP a month doesn't seem to bad for them.

Besides if you post in the forums you may get free CSC. and there's offers to make Free CSC as well. You don't need to be rich to afford it. it all depends where a users priority's lie.
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ARE

I like this! It's kind of like those Ooh La Layers in the CS except it's for forums.

I really hope the leash item doesn't stay on your pet's page! The item is pretty, but it's stretching the pet sections when a link will do. :(
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Pestilence

I have an extra dollar, I must be crazy and rich too. What have I been doing?! My dollar could go so far! I could get a candy bar! Oh, wait, no I can't because they're two bucks here. :|
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Frankenchokies

Thank you Zombie, I never thought about it that way before! Wow, I can just not buy it!

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Except that I did think of that because it's obvious. What I'm trying to do is the same thing that's always been tried-to-be-done, which is ridicule things that are ridiculous so that people who thought maybe they were ridiculous but weren't sure (because people like you say, "Oh hey, $1 a month for something that's not real isn't bad!") will realize that they were in fact right and hadn't gone insane.

You can go about having absolutely no concept of the value of real money and real items, explaining the obvious that I can just not buy it and stop complaining (because caring about issues and complaining is just so emo and pointless because if you hate a thing just get off the site omg don't try to make it better!), while the rest of us will continue to be sane over in this corner and now again complain when things start getting ridiculous. Carry on.
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TaterSalad

Frankenchokies

I have a dollar to spare, yea I'm rich and crazy...
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Asrafrate

Neat :)

Will see how this displays on forums first though. I'd rather not be the harbringer of even more clutter so will wait for things to get ironed out first.
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RenBug

Frankenchokies
If its that offensive to you... Don't buy it? Its a luxury for people who want it. its not like its a new membership fee or something no ones forcing anyone to buy it.
Besides you don't need to spend real money you can pay SP for a CSC card or you can do some of the free adds. Its not that hard to make.
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Frankenchokies

Screw your real-money-for-shit-that-expires bullshit. And you idiots who think it's a completely fair price to pay for a VIRTUAL NON-REAL ITEM that DOESN'T EVEN LAST HOLY SHIT YOU'RE OBVIOUSLY RICH AND CRAZY.
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RenBug

I'm with smut on the fact of it be nice to have it an item based as it is a bit cluttering. i will probably use one but only on Demtre seeing it under each of my 20 pets really clutters the page ad stretches it quite a bit.

I feel the price is justified since its only 12 dollars a year. the price of 1 book there about. And i love the idea of it as well. The only issue is the clutter on the pets page.

Or even keep it on the pets page but just take out the image of the leash
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faerie

I'm wondering if what you have written in the description field can be changed during the 31 days?
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Clover

I do think this is a cute idea, but it would have been better suited to be attached to gold account users, but a dollar a month isn't horrible either. But since I'm not nearly active enough on the forums it wouldn't serve me a good purpose no matter how much I love my pets.

The only complaint I have is that it does clutter up the pets page quite a bit.. especially for someone who doesn't plan on using it but active with their pets regardless. Is there a way to make it show up only for people who bought the item and have it in their inventory or anything? I haven't ad-blocked anything on site before and don't want to have to start now. :c
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HERO

I honestly don't think it's pricey at all. :/ $1 per month seems pretty fair, imo.
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Ikaro

I like the idea,but I don't see it as something that's worth paying for.
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Adderall

100 CSC seems fair to me. You can buy CSC carrying cards from user shops too. I think it's a neat idea, I may look into getting one in the near future. :)
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sheral

Are you going to start some form of "super" sMail we can pay for by-the-month next? :|
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RenBug

I am so going to show of Demitre. Tho is there away to get rid of the huge picture on the page with every pet?
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Daley

I like this a lot. I can finally literally put a leash on Kerberos ;D
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Hazi

Hmm... That's pretty cool, but can't you show off your pet in a foru signature -for free all year long- if you want to?
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soren

Hey hey hey, this got implemented! :D I may actually have to get some CSC just to use this. Very cool.
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Bison

Just went to the My Pets page, and now I'm Adblocking the leash image. That page does not need any more clutter. XP
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Jessi

The only thing I wish is that it was an item in the cash shop instead of tacked on to every pet on the Pets page xD It makes that page look REALLY cluttered.
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Lantern

Haha, cute idea :D I might end up using it some time in the future when I'm not rationing my csc.
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Lexy

Seems like a really neat idea for people who love showing off their pets. not something i think i'll ever spend my CSC on, but i'm also jobless and just about all my money goes to bills and my pets...

Was honestly about to be really "meh, 100 CSC is a bit much" but when Keith said it the way he did as only being $12 a year, it really seems a good deal. maybe thats just my being tired tho who knows haha. its certainly more worth it that 100 CSC for the new one use item for the zapped IMO.....
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Jen

SO HAPPY I COULD SCREAM (IN FACT I DID). This feature is truly awesome, thanks so much! :D :D
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Pixi

I didn't see 100 csc, I saw 1,000 :blush:

100 csc isn't so bad per 31 days.
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Gloomy

Excellent idea, though I won't be utilizing it myself. I have to agree with the others who've stated that the price is a little too high for a temporary thing.. I could see 50 csc.. I mean OLL is 25 csc and lasts the same number of days... I dunno. I think there will be quite a few people who utilize this new-found buyable gadget regardless of its price though.
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Anjou

Goat - Thanks for clarifying that :)
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SEA

The description isn't showing up on the forums for me...though my pet is just fine. :)
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Blir

@Potter. I know, I have my pages set to only load 20. I just mean I love looking at peoples HAs and forum stuff, I just like PoeticEnigma said and that people stay reasonable with their descriptions and don't abuse caps lock or something ridiculous. I love the forums and I'm not against this feature (it's a good idea, but personally I may not use it), I'm just afraid of seeing the forums cluttered. But we'll see what happens I suppose.
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JessieWrong

Foxit: That's permanent, actually.
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Kit_797

Personally, I hope this doesn't clutter the forums. I would like it more if it was just 50 CSC for the pet picture, no description.
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Anjou

I don't use the shoutbox, but isn't the item to change your color also 100CSC and temporary as well? I mean, for people who do work really hard on their pets and would like to show off their work, I can see this actually being a pretty good value in comparison to the paintbrush. Also when you factor in that you can just get it with a pretty minimal amount of sP (play the stocks for a few days perhaps) it's not much of big deal to me. :o I won't get it for a while though, I don't have my pets worked on yet!
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Keith

SORRY EVERYONE. This is showing up on your pets page now, just refresh!
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FLUX

Nice to see something being released that isn't for HA's for once xD I like this idea a lot, people put absolutely massive amounts of effort into their pet's TCs, profiles and stats so what's wrong with having the chance to show them off? 100CSC for a month is not a lot at all, if you're someone who's already put loads of effort into your pet, that kind of amount isn't going to bother you at all. I'd be buying one if I actually had a completed pet.
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Jessi

@Shortaxel

You can buy a 100 CSC gift card for between 2-3 mil. That's like, one weekend of Sag quests when he's the weekend bonus quest. OR one week when he ISN'T. $1 a month is a more than fair price! I'm excited about this!
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Leah

Nice idea and I'm glad for the attention on pets for once, I suppose, but not something I am going to be using.
Also agreeing with Blir. Another addition to the side of our posts is going to make it seem even more cluttered :/
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SEA

OH I see it on the Pets page now! :D OMFG it doesn't have to be our active pet, either? SO MUCH LOVE.
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Pixi

It's always awesome when you see something suggested get used!
I personally won't waste the csc on this since it's not permanent but I know others that will
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Potter

@Blir
you can always disable full forums in your site prefs..
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Purge

I must also be blind, as I can't find this either xD
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PoeticEnigma

I think it's great that a user suggestion (that people asked to pay for, to support the site if memory serves me correctly!) was added.
However, I really hope people don't get stupid with the 255 descriptions, I don't really want to be crowded in the forum by stupid descriptions and i kinda hope there is CSS to block them lol
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Mithra

Cool~
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Phayom

I woudl liek this more if it was a GA bonus or something.
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Blir

I like this but I don't. I like that us pet-lovers are getting some attention and get to show off our pets, but I dislike that there's more images that now need to load on the forums. We already have the HAs, HA like button, forumsets, signatures, gifs, etc. so it just seems like it's kind of a lot of 'stuff'. But oh well.
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Potter

yeah, 100csc for this is pretty reasonable imo :P

..um, am i totally blind? where is this feature located? o.o
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SEA

This is SO cool but I absolutely cannot figure out how to purchase this. o_o;;
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Rambo_449

Lol @ keiths response
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Hathor

I'd rather not use this atm, nice idea though.
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Sopheroo

Sorry

I wouldn't pay for any Delish line, but most of you would. Doesn't mean I think Delish is a waste of time, I just would not use my money on it.

Different strokes for different blokes and some of us WANT focus on pets.
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Subducting

HNGEE, this is SO something I will use when I (finally) get my pet's all sorted. Like there's one in particular that I'm already super proud of, I can actually really see using this. Not repeatedly, I'd like, buy it now and again or something, but it's a neat idea.
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Blue

Really 100 CSC (2,250,000 SP) really is not much. I dont understand the complaining?
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Bison

Keith, I think its a lot. I don't have $12 to spare for anything, let alone something like this.
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CarbonCoal

I would but it if it was permanent.Not sure if I would buy it the way it is now just to show off my pet on the forums for a few days.Seems like a nice feature though.
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Damon

I might have to get one later on ^__^ it looks fun to show off your hard worked on pet <3
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TaterSalad

Oh!! This is pretty cool!! I may try it out when I go back to one of my other avatars!! Nice!!
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Keith

ShortAxel - That is twelve dollars a year for a pet. I don't think it's asking that much.
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LOVE

Stupid question, but where do we go to activate a pet for the forum leash?
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Blue

I will definitely use it sometime when I will be able to be more active in the forums. I would love to be able to show off my completed pets. It is a way to show off all the work people put on their pets :p I am really starting to love this idea.
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Bison

I'm so disappointed that this feature costs CSC and isn't permanent. 100 CSC to make that pet leashable forever would be fine. . .but 100 CSC a month? I may be a pet addict and would love to show off my pets more, but that's ridiculous.
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rivia

I got so excited I forgot grammar? derplol
*your
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fable

hm, maybe one day... when my pets are embarrassingly uncared for :c
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rivia

YES YES YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS.
RUE GET THIS COLLAR AROUND YOU'RE NECK WE'RE GOING AWESOME-ING.
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Anasazi

Interesting .
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Eivor

Interesting but I doubt I'll use it right now.
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Seto

Neat feature, but not something I'd pay for.
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Anjou

-dramatic wind with single tear rolling down-
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Cookie

Hmmm....weird but interesting! I wonder how many people will make use of it? :)
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Cocoa_157

Very cool...
I doubt I'll buy it but it might be fun to try ^_^
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JessieWrong

Might do it if it was permanent, but 31 days? Meh.
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Straywillow

Thanks for listening to the suggestions, have seen threads requesting this :)
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Sylverwyng

Oh this is sooooooo genius!!!

Finally something to incorporate our pets more!!
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ROCK

Cute!
I'm not sure how I feel about it being a cash shop thing, but still cute. I'm probably never going to use it having to pay for it, but you never know.
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Jovi

Not worth it to me, but interesting, I guess!
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Xiocite

Neat, i saw this back in suggestions aaages ago ^_^
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Wolf_Spirit

That's wicked!!! So taking advantage of this! :D
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Rorschach

aw, that's pretty cool :D I always liked showing off my active on neo.
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Blue

Hmmm I'm interested on seeing how this will look :p
I might use it eventually
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RenBug

Aww i can show off and flaunt Demitre!
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Danielle

omg YAY. Pet lovee! :)
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Tabby_268

I might get it... :3
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orbital

Not a very original idea.... And I don't want to pay for that.
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Rumi

awww this is so cool! :)
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LOVE

Lawl, that is cute =D Might try it one day!
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Erection

That's awesome! :D
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Damon

o_o interesting idea
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