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This is well drawn. I voted for the old one though because it's so cute and squishy looking. <3 *has a torrent*
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Well, I guess I can pretty much assume there's a lot of fat-phobia here on Subeta. How unfortunate. <img src=/images/smilies/6398_emoticon_sad.gif border=0> I love the Torrent's roundness - it looks cuddly - if you were good enough friends for it to LET you hug it! <img src=/images/smilies/6398_emoticon_wink.gif border=0> Love the jewel-bindi very, very much and the marks under the eye are gorgeous. I hope the redraw goes through.
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it looks very crammed. why does it have to be shaped like that??? it kind of looks like a doughnut. perhaps if you straightened it a bit....or made the tail curl the other way. the artistry is very nice. oh...and it appears to have only one 'thingy' sticking out of its head....lol. usually I am like duh...THAT animal doesnt have one eye, it is a profile...but this is not the case here.
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its good art but i think the new one is over drawn.. it has a dolphin nose and a jewel which came out of nowhere and a little too much shine making it look slimy.. im sorry but im sure it can just be slightly changed not as a drastic as a change from the old one..
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yeah. now that I think about it. THe torrent seems to have too big a body for too small a fins. It think it's chubby too, but chubby in a good way. Sorta like when kois are slightlyon the fat side..but they don't actually have fat, only muscle.
<br>Yet I have ot agree-the torrent looks like it's been crammed intot he canvas. Sort of like a big fish for too small a fish tank. I personally don't like the gem, but then again I don't like fishes eigher. (as pets)..so that is mostly my preference.
<br>The coloring, shading and detailof the scales is amazing though. Plus I love the eyes.
<br>Yet I have ot agree-the torrent looks like it's been crammed intot he canvas. Sort of like a big fish for too small a fish tank. I personally don't like the gem, but then again I don't like fishes eigher. (as pets)..so that is mostly my preference.
<br>The coloring, shading and detailof the scales is amazing though. Plus I love the eyes.
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Thank you for getting rid of the creepy General Mills Cereal Box smile.
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<br>Now it actually looks like a fish.
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<br>Now it actually looks like a fish.
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It's just a little fat and it has egyptian markings on its eyes. Oh, and was the diamond added or was that on the original? <img src=/images/smilies/6398_emoticon_confused.gif border=0>!
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I voted for the new torrent mostly because from the looks of it, I believe it's better drawn than the old one.
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<br>The old one was cute, no doubt about that and there are some things about the new one I don't particularly like, but I still think the old torrent needed an update.
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<br>It's drawn well and it looks spectacular; the only problem I have with it is that it does kind of look crammed into the space that it is in and I have to agree that it looks a bit chubby.
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<br>The old one was cute, no doubt about that and there are some things about the new one I don't particularly like, but I still think the old torrent needed an update.
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<br>It's drawn well and it looks spectacular; the only problem I have with it is that it does kind of look crammed into the space that it is in and I have to agree that it looks a bit chubby.
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[ Fear my rambling! ]
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<br>I like the texture of the new one, it’s very nice and it looks shiny, as though it belongs in water. But, I think the whole attitude and look of the Torrent has changed with this new one- It’s a lot bigger and more dominant looking, it looks closer to a whale then a fish in my opinion, the decorations on it’s eyes make it seem more majestic then I’d associate the torrent to be and it seems to be crammed into the space as though it’s too big for the actual picture. It’s almost bloated in look. The gem is also off-putting, it doesn’t need it- a blank space where it is would have looked fine but now it looks slightly… Cluttered.
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<br>The old Torrent looked playful and humble, simple with its own little thing going on. This looks like something that would prey on the old one…
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<br>I voted for the new one simply because I thought it looked better art-wise. But I prefer the old Torrent for the overall look. :/
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<br>I like the texture of the new one, it’s very nice and it looks shiny, as though it belongs in water. But, I think the whole attitude and look of the Torrent has changed with this new one- It’s a lot bigger and more dominant looking, it looks closer to a whale then a fish in my opinion, the decorations on it’s eyes make it seem more majestic then I’d associate the torrent to be and it seems to be crammed into the space as though it’s too big for the actual picture. It’s almost bloated in look. The gem is also off-putting, it doesn’t need it- a blank space where it is would have looked fine but now it looks slightly… Cluttered.
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<br>The old Torrent looked playful and humble, simple with its own little thing going on. This looks like something that would prey on the old one…
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<br>I voted for the new one simply because I thought it looked better art-wise. But I prefer the old Torrent for the overall look. :/
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I think its pretty good, i dont ti=hink its fat, the old one was probably to small, i think the old one looked like a banana more than i fish.
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LOL, y'all are cute. It looks nice and helps the torrent fit in with the other subeta pets, esp. some of the newer/revamped ones. I agree that it was cartoonish before - a lot like the style you would see on other pet sites. This revamp sets it apart as do all the revamps and newer "models" of pets. Eventually, without the revamp the torrent wouldn't have held a candle to the other pets. And it isn't too fat, bloated, ginormous (that one made me chuckle) - it's about right since it is a sort o' fantasy fish - I mean, would you honestly be able to take a fish seriously if it DIDN'T look this good?
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Hi dolphinbabe1210, what did you not understand about <b>constructive criticism</b>? <img src=/images/smilies/6398_emoticon_confused_shocked.gif border=0>
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I voted for the new torrent, this one actually looks like a fish, the other is just cartoony, the art on this one is much better, looks slimey and realish..
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OMG ITS FAT! 0.o
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Vivi
Old Torrent. ^^; This one is..too big, in my opinion, and I don't care for the markings under it's eyes..:/
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I voted for the old one, don't get me wrong, the new one is amazing, but I always thought of the Torrent being a laid back and simpled creature. The new one is bigger, and it's quite complicated, whiled the old Torrent well...... isn't. I love the marking on the new one, but The old one has won my heart. Good art though.
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Dalton_381
Pretty art, but it scares me. ._.;
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<br>I voted for the old for quite a few reasons. It's just cuter, plus it has the cute smile that this one doesn't have.
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<br>The art on the new one is like woahomgO_O though. I love the little marks under it's eyes <3
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<br>I voted for the old for quite a few reasons. It's just cuter, plus it has the cute smile that this one doesn't have.
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<br>The art on the new one is like woahomgO_O though. I love the little marks under it's eyes <3
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BlackBobcat
O_O I love this one!
<br<img src=/images/smilies/6398_emoticon_mad.gif border=0>riginally I hated the torrent but I REALLY like this one o.o; (sorry whoever drew the old one!!!!)
<br<img src=/images/smilies/6398_emoticon_mad.gif border=0>riginally I hated the torrent but I REALLY like this one o.o; (sorry whoever drew the old one!!!!)
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Asher
I myself don't particularly like this revamp. I voted Old of a few things. It seems to have way too much detail, and seems too busy... it also seems a bit too chubby for me. No offense to whoever drew the revamp, but the gem on its' forehead looks a little tacky, and isn't needed, I think... neither are the swirls under the eyes. Without them it would look tons better, I believe. Also, make the small side-fins a bit larger; they appear too small perspective wise.
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<br>Hope I don't offend. :/
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<br>Hope I don't offend. :/
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THAT would make me want an Torrent.. which is a very bad thing because I have enough trouble deciding what to get when I finally get a GA.
<br>I always thought Torrents were a bit boring, the Subeta equivalent of having a goldfish instead of a dog or a cat. If it looked like this, I'd be forced to change my mind. The shading is beautiful.
<br>I always thought Torrents were a bit boring, the Subeta equivalent of having a goldfish instead of a dog or a cat. If it looked like this, I'd be forced to change my mind. The shading is beautiful.
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EvilRedDuckie
The remake is beautifully done. I love the scale detail and the slight "Mona Lisa" smile.
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<br>-The feeler looks off center to me.
<br>-The lil jewel doesn't look right. At first I thought it was it's 2nd eye. Then I found it's second eye.
<br>- A bit more contrast between the jewel, it's eyes, and body color. Nothing drastic - just so they don't all seem to blend together.
<br>-Bring the tail down a bit so the pose doesn't make it look like a ball - which, I thought it was at first glance. The pose also makes it look a bit scrunched up, like someone stuffed it into a pet store fish bag that was a size too small.
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<br>There were a few things that I would fiddle with though.
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<br>-The feeler looks off center to me.
<br>-The lil jewel doesn't look right. At first I thought it was it's 2nd eye. Then I found it's second eye.
<br>- A bit more contrast between the jewel, it's eyes, and body color. Nothing drastic - just so they don't all seem to blend together.
<br>-Bring the tail down a bit so the pose doesn't make it look like a ball - which, I thought it was at first glance. The pose also makes it look a bit scrunched up, like someone stuffed it into a pet store fish bag that was a size too small.
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I actally really like this new one, love the scale detail! :3 I agree it looks kinda chuby, but hey, it's cute chuby!
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Lavabeast
I love the new Torrent. This actually makes me want to get one, whereas I never would have gotten an old Torrent.
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It does seem a bit big, but it is alot better than the old. I want one now.
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Celene
Yes, the Torret :p Well, I think it's fins need just a tab bit of redoing and it should be skinnier.... or is that just me?
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Celene
THe new fish thing is okay but the old rocks! The new one has way to much details and is like.... exploding with all this BLA! Not to be rude or anything, it is very good art but just not fitting the fish!
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Kabuto
I LOVE the new torrent, makes me think leviathan, and if you've ever seen something like a bass or a trout its not fat at all, and its not huge either, its just taking up more of the 200x200 pixel area than before
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Spix
Wow! I love the new design! Though the original design is very playful and cute, the new one appears to have an air of magic around it! I like how the fins are ruffled and the presence of scales are shown. Also, the shinyness of the newer makes the Torrrent appear slick and wet - like how a fish should be! Some people are saying that it's too large, well...couldn't the artist just resize it? XD
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While this peice of art is beautiful, I definately prefer the old one.
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<br>The old on seemed...a little more playful and free-spirited, ya know? This one seems, a little more mystical. But I like it's shininess! =3
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<br>The old on seemed...a little more playful and free-spirited, ya know? This one seems, a little more mystical. But I like it's shininess! =3
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Makeira
Amazingly beautiful. I can tell there was alot of time put into this. I have nothing against the art, my only concern is the size of the pet, it seems rather large.
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Jenflower
While the new one is rather pretty - more details/shading and such, I definitely like the old one.
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<br>I'm trying to figure out what doesn't appeal to me, but one reason is that it is too round. I think I would like it better if it's position were a little different. Again, that's just my personal opinion.
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<br>Again, the coloring is lovely, but even though I was considering the idea of getting a Torrent, I probably wouldn't get it with the new look.
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<br>I'm trying to figure out what doesn't appeal to me, but one reason is that it is too round. I think I would like it better if it's position were a little different. Again, that's just my personal opinion.
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<br>Again, the coloring is lovely, but even though I was considering the idea of getting a Torrent, I probably wouldn't get it with the new look.
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Bliss
I think it's beautiful. I agree with Micro that it is just a little too big. The colouring and shading are simply gorgeous! I really love the torrents face (head, gem, and especially those eyes!). Great job!
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Kestrel
Hm.. I have to agree with pretty much everyone that the coloring is beautiful (I especially love those scales), but it's a little to big.
<br>I kinda like how it appears more eel-like than like a fish, but I think it's a little too much to focus on when you try looking it's face. Perhaps if the eyes weren't staring right at the user... they're a little creepy. ^^;;
<br>I kinda like how it appears more eel-like than like a fish, but I think it's a little too much to focus on when you try looking it's face. Perhaps if the eyes weren't staring right at the user... they're a little creepy. ^^;;
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DNA_558
Actually, Noir. Lots of koi are one solid color. Koi are an incredibly varied species of fish. Every color can be found in solid as well as speckled versions, along with calico forms and everything in between. I'm a huge koi fan, and I've seen many koi ponds, and many individual koi, throughout my lifetime.
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Hmm- I really like it! the eyes are beautiful and shading, lighting, limeart etc is amazing. Really nice. My only crit is it's just a little too big for the area its squeezed into. I really like it though- /way/ better than the old one <img src=/images/smilies/6398_emoticon_smile.gif border=0>
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Jasper
tategami, when I think koi, I think fish with patterns on it's body. Most Kois aren't one solid color... they have variation. Hense why I thought salmon. Because they're one color, very monotone, unless it's mating season. If the Torret had something... more to it I wouldn't think Salmon but I don't.
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angelembryo
The new Torrent is BEAUTIFUL in terms of artwork. I love the shine, the gem, the eyes and markings, the scales, the flowy fins... all the details are amazing. But... it just looks like a too-big fish crammed into a too-small space. ;_; I have no issue with pets being "big", and it's good to fill as much of the canvas as possible, but... this Torrent looks just plain cramped. Like it had to bend itself into awkward angles to fit into the picture, like its fins have been cut short (read: drawn too small) so they wouldn't break out of the canvas... and it just doesn't look natural. Look at it this way - try to imagine this Torrent "un-curled," stretched out to its full length, with its fins and body size/length and other proportions kept the same. Does it still look right? To me, it just... doesn't. (perhaps that's where the eel parallel came from?)
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<br>Like I said, I LOVE the artwork, and the details are amazing... and I agree that the Torrent needs a revamp to bring its art up-to-date. I just... don't think THIS is the revamp it needs. : I'm sorry. I have to go with old on this one.
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<br>Like I said, I LOVE the artwork, and the details are amazing... and I agree that the Torrent needs a revamp to bring its art up-to-date. I just... don't think THIS is the revamp it needs. : I'm sorry. I have to go with old on this one.
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I voted no, but after looking for a bit, I think it's only a few points that throw me off...
<br>1. I think I would like it better if you could see more of the tail, it would help, as at first glance it looked like a round blob to me (I do have horrible eyesight xD)
<br>2. The head 'dangle thingy' and gem seem off center o.0 -- my eye wants to follow the line of the top fin down through the center of the nose, but it staggers there for some reason...
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<br>3. The eye color - without an outline it's a tad bit too close to the body shade to me, the eyes just don't seem to stand out very well... :-/
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<br>I DO think that the Torrent was in need of a major makeover, and this might be the right direction, but.. like I said I voted old because at first glance it just didn't look right to me.. :-/
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<br>(The coloring and highlights are amazing tho! XD I am not trying to bag on anything, just point out what turned me off about it... )
<br>1. I think I would like it better if you could see more of the tail, it would help, as at first glance it looked like a round blob to me (I do have horrible eyesight xD)
<br>2. The head 'dangle thingy' and gem seem off center o.0 -- my eye wants to follow the line of the top fin down through the center of the nose, but it staggers there for some reason...
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<br>3. The eye color - without an outline it's a tad bit too close to the body shade to me, the eyes just don't seem to stand out very well... :-/
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<br>I DO think that the Torrent was in need of a major makeover, and this might be the right direction, but.. like I said I voted old because at first glance it just didn't look right to me.. :-/
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<br>(The coloring and highlights are amazing tho! XD I am not trying to bag on anything, just point out what turned me off about it... )
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I really like the art on this new picture, and it is definitely an improvement over the last one, but I do have a couple things to mention.
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<br>I realize that this has been mentioned already, but I agree that the new image just seems a little big. My first impression when seeing it was, "Whoa! It looks like it's going to explode out of the boundaries of the picture". I think that it might not really be the size of the picture, but how cramped it looks. It's all crunched up in a little ball, which makes it appear that there isn't enough room. I hope that made sense.
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<br>I agree with Oranzoval, that the antennae looks somewhat cramped. It looks like the artist sort of ran out of room for it, and just threw it in over top. I think it would be more natural for it to be sticking out farther.
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<br>Another thing I noticed about the antennae; it doesn't quite seem to fit with the rest of the image. It looks somewhat flat and two dimensional, although I suppose it's hard to make something that skinny look properly 3D. It also appears to nailed onto the head or something, it doesn't really look like it's part of the rest of the drawing. It just sort of pops up in the middle of the head.
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<br>I realize that this has been mentioned already, but I agree that the new image just seems a little big. My first impression when seeing it was, "Whoa! It looks like it's going to explode out of the boundaries of the picture". I think that it might not really be the size of the picture, but how cramped it looks. It's all crunched up in a little ball, which makes it appear that there isn't enough room. I hope that made sense.
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<br>I agree with Oranzoval, that the antennae looks somewhat cramped. It looks like the artist sort of ran out of room for it, and just threw it in over top. I think it would be more natural for it to be sticking out farther.
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<br>Another thing I noticed about the antennae; it doesn't quite seem to fit with the rest of the image. It looks somewhat flat and two dimensional, although I suppose it's hard to make something that skinny look properly 3D. It also appears to nailed onto the head or something, it doesn't really look like it's part of the rest of the drawing. It just sort of pops up in the middle of the head.
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RenBug
I like the new one. And the fins are fine I mean look at eals there huge with no fin and they do perfectly fine. Same with some filter fish. Its all in how they swim. <img src=/images/smilies/6398_emoticon_happy.gif border=0>
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Narbris
I definitly think the new one looks better but I still voted for the old souly because that is a really big transformation. I was wondering you only have one type of fish species, not that fish are terribly popular, but why can't there be two different types of fish, there are several birds. There is a big enough difference between the two just make a few changes and have two species. I mean I would hate if one of my pets changed so dramatically.
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Tsume
hahaha.... iluyasu. xD
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<br>i wasn't expecting it to appear this big... though i do love it much better than the old one. The only thing I'm torn on are the fins.... they seem small to me for the massive size the torrent appears as, but then again they are folded up. <img src=/images/smilies/6398_emoticon_grin.gif border=0>
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<br>anyways i still voted new. :3
<br><3 to jagster.
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<br>i wasn't expecting it to appear this big... though i do love it much better than the old one. The only thing I'm torn on are the fins.... they seem small to me for the massive size the torrent appears as, but then again they are folded up. <img src=/images/smilies/6398_emoticon_grin.gif border=0>
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<br>anyways i still voted new. :3
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Andrea
Yasuragi, I like yours best XD
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<br>I voted for the newer one, not becaue I love it, but because to me it's in improvement to the older one. Either way, I wouldn't adopt one. Since they scare me and their out to eat my face >>'
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<br>I voted for the newer one, not becaue I love it, but because to me it's in improvement to the older one. Either way, I wouldn't adopt one. Since they scare me and their out to eat my face >>'
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DNA_558
Oh, I know about varying viewpoints. It just struck me as particularly odd that one says too cute, and the other says the cute is dying. xD
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SailorGundam06
I never said they were getting too 'cute' previously. But, that's what happens when you have a lot of people commenting on the same thing. You're going to get a variety of view points, and some from opposite directions as others.
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DNA_558
Okay, so..
<br>Last time I saw someone say "All of subeta's pets are turning cute!" Now it's "We're losing all the cute subeta pets!"
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<br>What? <img src=/images/smilies/6398_emoticon_whatthe.gif border=0> Which is it, seriously?
<br>Last time I saw someone say "All of subeta's pets are turning cute!" Now it's "We're losing all the cute subeta pets!"
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<br>What? <img src=/images/smilies/6398_emoticon_whatthe.gif border=0> Which is it, seriously?
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I love the nose area, and the expression is perfectly ambiguous. I love how big it is, it looks tasty..Whoever said "koi beast" was right, yet it's unique enough to not be an earthly fish. Wonderful job, I would've never expected the Torrent to be taken in this direction..so mystical yet with attitude.
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Simply.amazing <3 The Torrent -really- needed this revamp. And it should be big! Allows the tiny details and the entire image to be seen in all its glory.
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<br>See, it's not -supposed- to look like a goldfish or anything such. It's a Torrent, a Subeta pet, not meant to look like anything in particular. It wasn't modeled after any real life pet, similarities are just similarities.
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<br>But I still think Koi when I see this ^^ Which makes it all the more beautiful, as Koi are -gorgeous- fish.
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<br>Jag, you did WONDERFULLY <333
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<br>See, it's not -supposed- to look like a goldfish or anything such. It's a Torrent, a Subeta pet, not meant to look like anything in particular. It wasn't modeled after any real life pet, similarities are just similarities.
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<br>But I still think Koi when I see this ^^ Which makes it all the more beautiful, as Koi are -gorgeous- fish.
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<br>Jag, you did WONDERFULLY <333
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Oh wow... I LOVE this one. It's PERFECT!
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Synbar
Oh, I *like*! The eyes are more expressive, and the 'shine' makes him look more fish-like (scales, wet, etc.)
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SailorGundam06
I think the old one was cuter. This one is too fancy looking. I've noticed that a lot of the newer pets coming out are starting to look, I guess... fancier... less cartoony... *shrugs* I'm not sure what the word is I'm looking for. However, we shouldn't lose all the 'cute' pets... and some of the redraws to fancy from cute don't work. While it's probably better than I could do any day, my personal opinion is that the other one was cuter.
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<br>And voting for the new one just because it needs an update isn't really a good reason. You should always vote for the one you like better, no matter what. So what if the other one was 'old'... *shrugs*
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<br>Just my $1.50.
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<br>And voting for the new one just because it needs an update isn't really a good reason. You should always vote for the one you like better, no matter what. So what if the other one was 'old'... *shrugs*
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<br>Just my $1.50.
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Most of you don't have a torrent? o___o I think the art is fantastic, and I don't see the 'pudge' on the new design, BUT IF THERE WAS I'D CRY HAPPILY SINCE PUDGE IS LOVE ;_____;
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Woooww. I love it. =33333
<br>Its so shiny and purdiful, its a /bit/ big, but nothing to fret over.
<br>The fins could be bigger, but again, its still not that much to me.
<br><333 Its awesome.
<br>Its so shiny and purdiful, its a /bit/ big, but nothing to fret over.
<br>The fins could be bigger, but again, its still not that much to me.
<br><333 Its awesome.
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Quetzal
What's with the "no offense to the old artist" junk? Yeah, I drew the old torrent over a year ago, back when I was first learning how to draw.
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<br>I'm glad to see it redrawn. Not the way I wanted, but oh well. My old art is going to be revamped no matter what, since I had my start as a freelance artist here.
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<br>I believe someday, though, that most (if not all) of my art will be replaced by other works. In that distant future, I see that no one will remember who I am, or what I did. But every light fades away, right?
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<br>Awesome drawing, I couldn't have done any better.
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<br>...I liked Sooki's torrent though, it was quite cute.
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<br>I'm glad to see it redrawn. Not the way I wanted, but oh well. My old art is going to be revamped no matter what, since I had my start as a freelance artist here.
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<br>I believe someday, though, that most (if not all) of my art will be replaced by other works. In that distant future, I see that no one will remember who I am, or what I did. But every light fades away, right?
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<br>Awesome drawing, I couldn't have done any better.
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<br>...I liked Sooki's torrent though, it was quite cute.
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JESSYTA
Thank you for saying what I was thinking Dokuja. Torrent =/= goldfish. This is Subeta, not the real world.
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<br>It's a personal pet peeve of mine when people seem to start expecting the pets on this site to be realistic duplications of real life animals. I can appriciate the natural instinct to make a comparison... but one needs to remember that these are all mythical creatures, not real life animals.
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<br>With that said, EXCELLENT redraw. Very pleased to see the new Torrent doing so well in the poll.
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<br>It's a personal pet peeve of mine when people seem to start expecting the pets on this site to be realistic duplications of real life animals. I can appriciate the natural instinct to make a comparison... but one needs to remember that these are all mythical creatures, not real life animals.
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<br>With that said, EXCELLENT redraw. Very pleased to see the new Torrent doing so well in the poll.
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Cyn
The new version is VERY NICE. I like how it looks very wet. ^^ The proportions look much smoother on the new version. ^^ It looks so GOOD! ^^
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Toni_675
WOAH. Big fishy. ._o I like the scales and the flowy fins, and the eyes are drop dead beautiful, but the antenne thing seems too squished in there, pluse, it's a little /too/ big.
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Avocado
Wow, that took awhile to choose o_O I was trying to image what the new Torrent would look like in colours (dusk, reborn, lilac etc.)
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"cramped in the spot" right words for the expression. <img src=/images/smilies/6398_emoticon_smile.gif border=0>
<br>with the alredy mentioned bigger fins this wouldn't be a problem anymore, or?
<br>More fin > more space needed > smaler fish > the pic looks lighter. <img src=/images/smilies/6398_emoticon_happy.gif border=0>
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<br>And still love the art itself, just amasing the shininess, scales...
<br>with the alredy mentioned bigger fins this wouldn't be a problem anymore, or?
<br>More fin > more space needed > smaler fish > the pic looks lighter. <img src=/images/smilies/6398_emoticon_happy.gif border=0>
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<br>And still love the art itself, just amasing the shininess, scales...
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Andrea
Holy jebus this scares me O_O!
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<br><b>Quote:</b><blockquote style="padding:5px; line-height:15px; background-color: #FAFFFF; border: 1px solid #000000; font-family: georgia; font-size: 10;"> The new one just makes such much more use of the canvas size given. </blockquote>
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<br>That.. is what scares me. Maybe make the fish it's self smaller, and it's fin's bigger? Cause honestly, the art is mucho better, but this thing scares the pah-jebus out of me.
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<br>-hides from it-
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<br><b>Quote:</b><blockquote style="padding:5px; line-height:15px; background-color: #FAFFFF; border: 1px solid #000000; font-family: georgia; font-size: 10;"> The new one just makes such much more use of the canvas size given. </blockquote>
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<br>That.. is what scares me. Maybe make the fish it's self smaller, and it's fin's bigger? Cause honestly, the art is mucho better, but this thing scares the pah-jebus out of me.
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Cydewinder
Right, but traditionally these polls have been for voting on a final version.
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<br>The way I understood it worked in the past was if this one was rejected in the poll, the comments were taking into consideration and either the new version was tweaked or scrapped, and then revoted upon.
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<br>The way I understood it worked in the past was if this one was rejected in the poll, the comments were taking into consideration and either the new version was tweaked or scrapped, and then revoted upon.
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Excitement
Its a very nice new peice of art. But it looks completely different from the torrent. Sorry, but i just don't like it.
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Sunnie
I'm sorry, but I like the old one better.
<br>Don't get me wrong, it's amazingly drawn, but... there are just a few things that bug me.
<br>Now the fins look really pretty, and look very flowy, but they don't seem big enough for a big fish like that. I agree with that one person who said it - a fish like this should have a bit bigger fins.
<br>The eyes look so pretty and I like the little markings under them, but I don't think the mouth should be parted... it's a bit hard to see.
<br>Last thing, I swear: it does seem pretty big. Not that big is bad, big pets are cool (I have a mortiking myself), but this little guy looks like it's a bit cramped in the spot.
<br>It does look pretty cool though. I like the shininess of it (yay, shiny fishy!). I just... eh, I'm just not too fond of it. Sorry D: At least the majority likes it, so it'll still probably be on the site <img src=/images/smilies/6398_emoticon_raspberry.gif border=0>
<br>Don't get me wrong, it's amazingly drawn, but... there are just a few things that bug me.
<br>Now the fins look really pretty, and look very flowy, but they don't seem big enough for a big fish like that. I agree with that one person who said it - a fish like this should have a bit bigger fins.
<br>The eyes look so pretty and I like the little markings under them, but I don't think the mouth should be parted... it's a bit hard to see.
<br>Last thing, I swear: it does seem pretty big. Not that big is bad, big pets are cool (I have a mortiking myself), but this little guy looks like it's a bit cramped in the spot.
<br>It does look pretty cool though. I like the shininess of it (yay, shiny fishy!). I just... eh, I'm just not too fond of it. Sorry D: At least the majority likes it, so it'll still probably be on the site <img src=/images/smilies/6398_emoticon_raspberry.gif border=0>
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bean
I think it's beautiful. It is big, but I personally don't see that as a bad thing at all. I like it that way.<img src=/images/smilies/6398_emoticon_smile.gif border=0>
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Luxe
I agree, Cyde, to some extent, but if size is the problem (which I honestly don't think it is until parts of the pet are getting cut off by the canvas) that's isn't like it's anything that can't be fixed so easily. I'd rather people vote on the quality of art right now and not something so trivial.
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...I love the pets that take up a lot of room. xD Like the Mortikings, and this newer Torrent. He looks cuddly. I liked the old one, and I don't mind the new one. Is very very pretty. <33
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Karasu
I like it, just the fins seem a bit 'skimpy' for the body. Like it would just drift in the water or have to beat those fins super fast XD
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<br<img src=/images/smilies/6398_emoticon_mad.gif border=0>nly the pectoral fins would be the ones to change.
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<br<img src=/images/smilies/6398_emoticon_mad.gif border=0>nly the pectoral fins would be the ones to change.
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I do think that it fits the site perfectly, especially in the direction the artwork has been headed lately. I wasn't fond of the Torrent at all, but I do really love its Koi appearance now.
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<br>Also...when are pictures on Reflection going to be updated? XD
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<br>Also...when are pictures on Reflection going to be updated? XD
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Cydewinder
Kelpie you're implying the quality of art should overrule all other aspects of the image. Thats a dangerous road to start walking down.
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<br>Im not saying we shouldnt aim for the highest quality art, but the quality isnt the only attribute Subeta needs in its images.
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<br>Im not saying we shouldnt aim for the highest quality art, but the quality isnt the only attribute Subeta needs in its images.
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Lace
I love it, I had considered getting a torrent but the expression it had was just... >.> scary.
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<br>It is not big, they just used space... very well i might add.
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<br>Was this site ever going for 'cartoony' in the first place? To me it looks like a mix of the two anyway.
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<br>It is not big, they just used space... very well i might add.
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<br>Was this site ever going for 'cartoony' in the first place? To me it looks like a mix of the two anyway.
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Agree'd with Tate.
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<br>And the fins look fine on this, I think. They aren't entirely that small at all. o__o
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<br>And the fins look fine on this, I think. They aren't entirely that small at all. o__o
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The old one, no offense to the artist, reminds me more of a clown. The new one is much more fitting to the site, and I'd love for it to stay. I'd definitely consider getting one if they were to be voted as the new Torrent. Great job.
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DNA_558
What needs to be understood is, we're -supposed- to use as much of the tiny space we have when we draw pets. Jag did an absolutely incredible job of that in this (this is a 200x200 pixel square).
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<br>In addition, it's gone from done-to-death typical goldfish to KOI. I don't think salmon when I see this, I think koi--which is a beautiful species of fish that can commonly be found in pond in japanese tea gardens, and also right here on Subeta as fishing prizes.
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<br>Eels are really long, and serpentine looking, so no luck there, either.
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<br>In addition, it's gone from done-to-death typical goldfish to KOI. I don't think salmon when I see this, I think koi--which is a beautiful species of fish that can commonly be found in pond in japanese tea gardens, and also right here on Subeta as fishing prizes.
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<br>Eels are really long, and serpentine looking, so no luck there, either.
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I do like the use of the canvas space for the Torrent on its own, but I'm thinking that when it is viewed on a pet page, it is indeed going to seem rather large. I think that's what most people mean when they say "it's big."
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<br>However, I prefer this to the other one by miles. Its eyes and expression are fabulous and versatile. <3 to the artist.
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<br>However, I prefer this to the other one by miles. Its eyes and expression are fabulous and versatile. <3 to the artist.
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ET
The only suggestion I can give is make the fins bigger, because they look so puny compaired to the big body <img src=/images/smilies/6398_emoticon_sad.gif border=0>. Longer flowy fins would look nice ^__^
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TracyH
I like the jewel and the eyes. Jag is so talented.
<br>It is no reflection on Christine her art is absolutely amazing. One just need visit the Armada to see that.
<br>It is no reflection on Christine her art is absolutely amazing. One just need visit the Armada to see that.
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Dokuja
That's the idea, NoirRaven. It's not a redraw, it's a revamp - it's supposed to make the Torrent look different from the previous version, more appealing to users etc.
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<br>The old version never had gills either - and, just as with the Feli not being a cat and the Kumos not being a wolf, the Torrent isn't a fish. It's a Torrent. X3
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<br>I don't get the whole 'too big!' thing. XD;; I mean... it still fits in the 300x300 space, and none of the body's been pushed out of the box... <img src=/images/smilies/6398_emoticon_grin.gif border=0>
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<br>The old version never had gills either - and, just as with the Feli not being a cat and the Kumos not being a wolf, the Torrent isn't a fish. It's a Torrent. X3
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<br>I don't get the whole 'too big!' thing. XD;; I mean... it still fits in the 300x300 space, and none of the body's been pushed out of the box... <img src=/images/smilies/6398_emoticon_grin.gif border=0>
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Luxe
Considering that the torrent wasly wildly poopular to begin with...[/]quote]
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<br>What I meant to say was, "Considering that the torrent wasn't wildly popular to being with..."
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<br>What I meant to say was, "Considering that the torrent wasn't wildly popular to being with..."
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its a little too "big" in my eyes. Mayby because it uses so much of the canvas without leaving space for background.
<br>It smashes you down when you look at it.
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<br>This a little smaler and i would get an arid and get rid of all my other pets for it. Wonderfuly drawn!
<br>(not sure with the ged-rid-part though <img src=/images/smilies/6398_emoticon_wink.gif border=0>)
<br>It smashes you down when you look at it.
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<br>This a little smaler and i would get an arid and get rid of all my other pets for it. Wonderfuly drawn!
<br>(not sure with the ged-rid-part though <img src=/images/smilies/6398_emoticon_wink.gif border=0>)
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Luxe
Old Torrent never had gills. Remember, this isn't a fish you can truly relate to real life. It's a torrent. <img src=/images/smilies/6398_emoticon_smile.gif border=0>
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Absolutely gorgeous. I do agree that it is a little on the big side, but the detail is amazing. If this wins, one of my pets might wake up to discover that it has fins. xD
<br>Not that the old torrent isn't nice, because it is. ^w^
<br>Not that the old torrent isn't nice, because it is. ^w^
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ET
Hmmm, I don't know. I voted for the new one since the eyes really attracted me, but I also hesitated because this one lacks character and is such a big change from before. Still very nicely done though with the shiny scales and all ^^. I'd love to see the other colros of this someday.
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Luxe
Considering that the torrent wasly wildly poopular to begin with, we thought we'd change it completely to see if people would like it more. I don't really get the whole Salmon thing either. This reminds me very much of a Koi. Those are goldfish, no?
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<br>Personally, the heavy fins were probably what I disliked most about the old torrent. I'm glad this one feels like the fins could "flow", if you will.
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<br>Personally, the heavy fins were probably what I disliked most about the old torrent. I'm glad this one feels like the fins could "flow", if you will.
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Jasper
O_o It's way too huge... looks more like it could be a whole other species really. The Torrent has always been a "Gold fish" if you will. This is a "Salmon." And it cuts off the tail a bit which is usually the best part about fish. (To my eyes anyway.) The only other problem I see with this is the fins. With such a long body... the fins look awfully fragile... Either the body has to be shortened/slimmed down or the fins tight and stiff. This salmon needs fins of a salmon, not a gold fish.
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<br>Not to hurt the artist. The good points are, it's less cartoony/cute, it's more serious/anime looking and the details on the eyes are amazing.
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<br>If this is the pose you have your heart set on Keith then at least work on the feather light fins... A fish that long/large needs powerful/stiff fins...
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<br>Was this constructive enough for you?
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<br>Not to hurt the artist. The good points are, it's less cartoony/cute, it's more serious/anime looking and the details on the eyes are amazing.
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<br>If this is the pose you have your heart set on Keith then at least work on the feather light fins... A fish that long/large needs powerful/stiff fins...
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<br>Was this constructive enough for you?
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Cass
It's beautiful. o__o I love how shiny it is, and the scale details...the gem is also a nice touch. The redraw makes me want to seriously consider getting one, I can't wait to see the other colors if it goes through.
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Woah....I think the old one was better. I'd like this one if it were smaller. And skinnier around the head.
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SilverSekhmet
I'm loving the new Torrent, the detail, the gem, all so awesome, if it does get the new look, Im definatly getting one <img src=/images/smilies/6398_emoticon_smile.gif border=0>
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Lyzette
HAHAH, Dokuja. I've been asking that whenever I see new pets, but nobody answered me YET. D:
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Luxe
Festers are pending til the full set is completed. <img src=/images/smilies/6398_emoticon_grin.gif border=0>
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Personally, I think the newer version better suits the site. It's very beautifully drawn. Kudos!
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Lum
Ooh...it's so pretty. It looks more elegant. I love the details, like the scales, the gem, and the swirls under the eyes. I'm sure I'm missing more details, but the color yellow makes me ill.
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<br>I hope this makes the current Torrent owners happy, but I'm voting for the new one either way. It was a much needed update.
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<br>I hope this makes the current Torrent owners happy, but I'm voting for the new one either way. It was a much needed update.
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This one looks awsome. <img src=/images/smilies/6398_emoticon_smile.gif border=0>
<br>I like the way this one looks.. If it'd looked like /this/ when I first joined, one of my pets might have been a torrent!
<br>I like the way this one looks.. If it'd looked like /this/ when I first joined, one of my pets might have been a torrent!
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Jacket_683
And look at those lovely eyes! <img src=/images/smilies/6398_emoticon_heart.gif border=0>
<br>I'm not a fan of fish, but I'd get one, provided I had the room. Or if a new colour (spectacular or not) came out... Or if Hydrus Torrents remind me of the name I've just thought up for a Torrent.
<br<img src=/images/smilies/6398_emoticon_mad.gif border=0>r...
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<br>Mkay. Simply put, I love this.
<br>I'm not a fan of fish, but I'd get one, provided I had the room. Or if a new colour (spectacular or not) came out... Or if Hydrus Torrents remind me of the name I've just thought up for a Torrent.
<br<img src=/images/smilies/6398_emoticon_mad.gif border=0>r...
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<br>Mkay. Simply put, I love this.
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Lyzette
Yeah, it's way big. But it's good :3 A great evolution from the old one. <33
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<br>Just a question. What about the Fester? Is it still going to be revamped? o.o
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<br>Just a question. What about the Fester? Is it still going to be revamped? o.o
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Luxe
The new one just makes such much more use of the canvas size given. I also really really love this!
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It IS, however, of awesome quality and without any anatomical errors as far as I can see.
<br>Massive improvement!
<br>Massive improvement!
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Keith
I like the expression on the new one better, becuase it caters to any type of pet.
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<br>A 'happier' pet could intrepret the expression as a smile, etc.
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<br>The old one could <b>only</b> be happy <img src=/images/smilies/6398_emoticon_raspberry.gif border=0>
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<br>A 'happier' pet could intrepret the expression as a smile, etc.
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<br>The old one could <b>only</b> be happy <img src=/images/smilies/6398_emoticon_raspberry.gif border=0>
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I like it. <img src=/images/smilies/6398_emoticon_grin.gif border=0>D
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Frost
<3 New one, totally. Uberly awesome 'cause of it's shiny scales. I love the look on it's face, too. :3
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JennLee
I love the shading on the new one, but I just think that the old one has more character.
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<br>Maybe if the new one had more of a dynamic expression?
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<br>Maybe if the new one had more of a dynamic expression?
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Jacket_683
Make the Torrent angry, and it'll eat you. <img src=/images/smilies/6398_emoticon_grin.gif border=0>
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Keith
Or maybe the older one is just small.
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<br>Honestly, I don't see a problem with it being 'big', as it still looks fantastic
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<br>Really, the torrent being one of the least-seen pets on subeta (I've really only ever seen them in the pound, I don't see people having them in the common color) I think it needed a complete revamp, not just a new pose and coloring.
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<br>I really, really, like the new one <img src=/images/smilies/6398_emoticon_raspberry.gif border=0>
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<br>Honestly, I don't see a problem with it being 'big', as it still looks fantastic
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<br>Really, the torrent being one of the least-seen pets on subeta (I've really only ever seen them in the pound, I don't see people having them in the common color) I think it needed a complete revamp, not just a new pose and coloring.
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<br>I really, really, like the new one <img src=/images/smilies/6398_emoticon_raspberry.gif border=0>
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Warlocked
<img src=/images/smilies/6398_emoticon_shocked.gif border=0> Duuude, it looks like a /fish/ now.
<br>The old one was odd looking...Now it looks like a koi-ish beast. <3 Whee.
<br>The old one was odd looking...Now it looks like a koi-ish beast. <3 Whee.
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Amazing <img src=/images/smilies/6398_emoticon_grin.gif border=0> Exhibbited did a wonderful job on this.
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<br>I definentally voted for new. It fits the style much more than the older one(though the older one was very nicely drawn ^^)
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<br>I definentally voted for new. It fits the style much more than the older one(though the older one was very nicely drawn ^^)
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Kiba_224
i like the new version but it's a little big. i voted for it anyway<img src=/images/smilies/6398_emoticon_grin.gif border=0>
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I like the old for some certain qualities and the new for some certain qualities.
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Jag, you are amazing XD!
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<br>Excellent job!
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<br>*admores the fine artwork*
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<br>Excellent job!
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<br>*admores the fine artwork*
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I think the new one is way to big and i dontno i just think the old one is way better. Of course thats only my opinion.
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loooooooove the new. the small details are nice and i like the pose. <3
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Dokuja
<img src=/images/smilies/6398_emoticon_shocked.gif border=0> Look how big and beautiful it is! <3 The eyes, the beautiful little details with the scales and fins... and those awesome emo tears. XD
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Holy crap it's ginormous! <img src=/images/smilies/6398_emoticon_confused.gif border=0>
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Quetzal
Resembles an eel, not a fish.
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<br>However, I voted for the new. It needs an update anyway.
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<br>However, I voted for the new. It needs an update anyway.
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