There is a new Poll related to the Kora
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Posted by Keith

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hum. i shall be voting for the new one.
because it's art is nicer. and the shading is nicer.
but i agree. the same style, but as a more mythical, magical pose. like the original kora had would be MUCH more loved, i think.
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I like the new one. But, it lacks the charm the old had. If the kora is revamped, could you please look like it is levitating and little more mystical. That was the reason I fell in love with the koras. So for the poll I vote old.
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badger

I think the new one is adorable. The shading is brilliant, the anatomy is wonderful, and OMG! It has a mouth! xD
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<br>the new drawing. is, quite possibly. the most horrible thing i've ever seen.</blockquote>
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<br>I think that the new Kora is definately better than the older one. The lineart on the old one needed updating, around the ears and the tails mostly. And the shading on the new one is amazing! I especially like that on the new one, the diamond has more of a shimmer to it <img src=/images/smilies/6398_emoticon_grin.gif border=0>
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I think the art is amazing and gorgeous. ♥
<br>It just needs..to float instead of stand perfectly. Just a bit of tweaking on the pose so it's sorta like the current one, and I think that it would be positootly amazing. <333
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*scritches head* usually I'm all for the new ones but there's something about this one's head (specifically the eyes and maw) that makes me tilt my head.
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<br>The art is lovely, the inking is great and the coloring and shading beat the old one, but that little something about the eyes got me to vote for old, x0x sorreh! I think that the head should perhaps be posed tilted downward so that the mouth vanishes completely from view, and it's easy should be... rounder, wider instead of taller n.n;
<br><3 lovely work on the whole thu!
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Historiography

This one actually looks a lot more real than the current version does and I admire that, but I honestly cannot bring myself to like the pose. I also think the mouth should be a big wider though I do admit that it does add a bit more realism to it to have the mouth smaller.
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<br>The shading and the overall porportions are much more what I would imagine the kora to be though, but I just cannot bring myself to like the pose.
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TracyH

OMGoodness but some of you were just plain rude. Remember real people draw these pictures.
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I think its adorable! (I voted for the new one, duh.) I think I'll turn my Demi into one if that's the new look. This Kora looks WAY better than the old one. I mean, I don't even like the old one!
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<br> Another thing, I love the shading and colors. It looks so life-like! The sparkle in its eyes is simply gorgeous!
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cinna

I voted for the current one o0o
<br>Well...I do like this one, but something about it bugs me. I'm not entirely sure.
<br>I'm not saying I don't like it, 'cause I do.
<br>I do LOVE how it has the mouth now, it looks very nice and more real. In fact, I'm starting to wish I had voted for the new one instead.
<br><333 Still, the current one has an awesome pose, and I really like it too.
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Asher

Okay, people, why not say more constructive stuff other than 'it lacks it's mythical nature!' or 'it has no personality now!'. It helps to critique the art itself, not the whole emotional aspect.
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<br>That's why you create a personality for your pet. It doesn't matter what species, you can tweak the design to what you want. Right? Many people on this site do it: they change things from the default.
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<br>Use your imagination. If it's not like you want it, make it more mystical yourself. But the default image is a lot cleaner, a lot smoother lineart and coloring-wise, it has better proportions now, and it's generally updated to what Subeta-style has now become.
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<br>More on the mouth. Now it actually has something to /breathe/ with. Even without a mouth it looks somewhat stationary and neutral, doesn't it? But the mouth adds something to the design that updates it better. It looks a little more real, like it could honestly be an animal instead of a chibi poof like it was before. Granted, if it was the Chibi color, then it would be fine, but as the default image, it works.
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<br>Don't put the artist down for working so hard on it. If someone can do better, step forward, redline it, or come up with a more constructive solution, like a few people here have already done.
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I love it!
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Dhevix

sorry to post in a row, but I forgot to say (we sooo need an edit button <img src=/images/smilies/6398_emoticon_shocked.gif border=0>)
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<br>If all the pet's start looking like that, I think we'll lose a lot of members here..
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Dhevix

Ditto lida_maria XD
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<br>But yeh, it does, this new kora has lost all it's charm an spiff, I was begginging to realy want a kora, I was going to get one too, but now I'm glad, because I wouldn't want to be stuck with that poor thing, it's just.. bland.. *pokes*
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<br>Sorry if I caused any offence..
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<br>the new drawing. is, quite possibly. the most horrible thing i've ever seen.
<br>it makes the Kora appear to lose any and all personality. it looks like my grandmothers taxidermied cat.
<br>the old one is perfect. and it should stay just how it is.
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the new drawing. is, quite possibly. the most horrible thing i've ever seen.
<br>it makes the Kora appear to lose any and all personality. it looks like my grandmothers taxidermied cat.
<br>the old one is perfect. and it should stay just how it is.
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The pose makes it look kind of lifeless somehow. It's just so stationary and almost free of personality (the other one looked myserious/cute). Nice shading and all, but there's something about the new one that really bothers me.
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<br>I guess it's like a fox that's beautiful and graceful and elegant...And then it stops and looks at you a moment before moving on. Time stands still.
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<br>Only this pose caught that a bit too much. =/
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The new one's pose drops the level of mysterious of the pet! Isn't it still supposed to be a little not all figured out? This one is like ok I'm here tada. The old one's like Now you see me, now you don't please don't change this pet! I think the ghostly one should have been revamped not this one ><img src=/images/smilies/6398_emoticon_sad.gif border=0>!!!
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To the people who are whining about how 'ugly' it is: quit it, would you? A real person drew this and if you dislike it, note for the old one and then state your opinion *nicely.* "It's ugly!" isn't nice, it's rude and is probably hurting the artist's feelings.
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<br>That said, I like it! I really, really like it. I think it looks more majestic this way. The cutesy feel really isn't doing it for me anymore, and this looks nice.
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The new one has a very boring pose, but besides that it's all good.
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Luckymax

I dont dislike this new revamp... But I dont see what is wrong with the old one to be honest. Perhaps if the lineart is tweaked a little, that would be enough. But the old kora isnt unlike the rest of the Subeta art if ya know what Im saying.
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<br>This new one definately has a static, unreal feel to it. The shading is wonderful and should be admired tremendously. However, it looks unhappy... and I never saw koras as an unhappy Subetapet before. I like what Hanako did to the face... And I don't know whether it is just the pose but I never realised how BIG a kora's ears are...
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<br>Don't get me wrong I DO like this drawing of the kora, but it isn't as good as the original.
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Hanako... that redline basically solves every issue I have with the revamp (aside from the static pose but even that I'd forgive if the tweaks you suggest were implemented). It's only very, very minor things, in fact your redline shows some lines are purely a few pixels out, but that's the difference between 'not at all bad but seems a little too different to the mood of the original' and 'an actual improvement'.
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I don't really think there's anything *wrong* with the revamp, its just... the mouth. I don't know why, but it detracts from the whole 'Kora' look.
<br>And I do have to agree that the pose seems more... static.
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<br>I'd even settle for the compromise Hanako offered. The mouthless, static, cool-shading Kora.
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<br>Otherwise, I still think the artist did a good job (but I still voted for the old).
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AidenVP

Is it possible to keep at least the pose from the original kora? Because I really like the pose for the old kora a lot better. I also wish it looked simply calm instead of sad.
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New one's better. The end.
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eww the new one looks ugly. it doesnt have anything going for it. i doesnt have personality and feel to it. no offense to the artist who is Waffles by the way. By the signs of the comments here you have credibility. i dont think you got it on the head this time around....i like the OLDER one better. it has personality and feel to it. i can say that the old is mysterious, shy, and maybe even a stretch of imagination that its an evil experiment under a disguise and is planning subeta-world domination through making everybody fall in love with it's demure. The new one is not so much of that. its very rounded and very normal looking. The head is fine but still not up to the wuality of the older one. the body is so cliche. such a norm. it could be attached to a dog or maybe even a cat and you wouldnt know its a kora. The older one for sure you'll know the body is owned bya kora. The tail is not so sharp either. It does not give that magical mysterious wavy feel that the older kora's tail contribute to the whole image of the older one. This one just doesnt cut it out for me. Its not just par not only to the quality of design of the older kora but also the personality and vibes it gives off.
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NekoDramon

LOLZ...okay, call me crazy...the more I look at it the more I like it. And I can't stand to see Waffles' art getting bashed so terribly. *sniffle* I realize that we all love the old kora...but please, people...a little compassion. <img src=/images/smilies/6398_emoticon_heart.gif border=0>
<br>Wow...I would NOT want to have to make this decision alone. *nods and remembers the montre controversy with sadness*
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Aw, it looks so cuuute <3 I would adopt a Kora if this revamp went through. I didn't really like how the old one was just... floating there <img src=/images/smilies/6398_emoticon_whatthe.gif border=0>; I think it looks better with its feet on the ground. Plus the old one looks too flat to me. No offense to the old artist ^^
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I like Hanako's redline thingy....Maybe more people would like it if it looked like that....?? I really want the new Kora..
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TracyH

Well I never saw a pet revamp losing before. I voted new because the free falling look of the Kora has always got on my nerves and made me feel dizzy.
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JESSYTA

I voted old. I don't see any real reason for the revamp. The new pose is odd, the coloring seems almost washed out, and personally, I prefered the mouthlessness.
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Dill

With no offense to the artist that attempted a revamp, this is truly hideous and I'd be seriously offended if my two Kora babies turned into that ... thing.
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<br>I've got one Angelic and one Darkmatter Kora, both of which required real, hard-earned cash to get, and yeah. I'd be super-angry.
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see,now Hanako got the idea.she made the face a bit squishier that makes the kora so cute.but id still say that you should give it a more...whimsical pose like the old one.just raise the legs and tilt it forward a bit.i know,i know,easier said than done.just a suggestion <img src=/images/smilies/6398_emoticon_smile.gif border=0>
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I like the Kora how it is...thats why I got one! T.T
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As I posted in the forums, I'm not a big fan of this current evolution of the kora, The legs seem too long, the neck seems creepy, and as many have said, the pose and overall look just seems to drop all of the character of the pet. I voted old, but hopeing for a line/shading revamp, without totally changing the pet.
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Esmeralda_387

i voted for the last kora,the colors of new kora is....nya..i hate u.u
<br>and the pose of last kora is perfect i.i
<br>ooo return kora please i.i
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Hanako, I love that red line drawing of the new Kora. It still gives off the Kora as being cute and cuddly. I might try creating my own if it had looked like that =3
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Mm..I like the new face and all..but not the pose. Can we keep the old one? PLEASE!!
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I do love the new one. It's shading is gorgeous and the lineart is amazing! I did vote for the old one because there are a few things that do need a little touching up :3 I think one thing that is being brought up most is that the pose is very static. The old Kora had a whimsical feel to it and gave the Kora it's personality. I know that Subeta is trying to make the basic pets have a more neutral feel for RPers but if they all look so static they start to all feel the same. Now back to the Kora. There are only some tiny touch ups that I can see mostly located around the face. Redline provided x3
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<br>The redline should speak for itself :3 If you do need any clarifiction or just want to scream at me feel free x3 This is no way meant to offend anyone because I truly do love the new Koras shading so much!
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I like the new face. Yay for mouths! However, ultimately I like the old pose. The floating/flying is the thing I have always admired most about the Kora.
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Octo

*cries* NO!!! Don't change my baby!!!!
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The new face is good, but the old pose looks nicer for me.
<br>Is that better Punkeh? <img src=/images/smilies/6398_emoticon_smile.gif border=0>
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Nouveau

I just want the rest of the colors to come out. -spazzes- I agree with everyone that the shading is amazing, but to me, its definitely straying from the style of the kora that I've always loved. If this comes into effect, I'll most definitely be elixiring Shiai into something else till the special colors come out.
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THINK OF THE CHILDREN!!!
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<br>Kora is the most beautiful thing, you can't commit this crime in changing it <img src=/images/smilies/smiley_sadface.gif border=0>
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<br>The new one's just ... well I don't mean to be rude, but it's kina ugly.
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<br>*huggles her brand new baby Kora Mattathias*
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<br>Please don't make him change... :'(
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I voted for the old one. It looks so much cuter. This one looks hypnotized. The ears are tangled with the tails, and although I do give it merit for anatomy, it's just got more bad points than good. Seriously. What's wrong with having no mouths? It never bothered the Swampies did it?
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<br>See all those people with the Magic avatar? Is that all you want to be left of the old, magical Kora?
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<br>Vote to keep the Kora!
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Scraggle18

I think that the older one is better! Its more unique.
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<br>=) Just my opinion. =)
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Also Saga, look at the colors for Angelic, Chibi, and Graveyard for the Kora, they have mouths, THAT was what I was talking about.
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I know that the Kumos and Montre were redrawn, Saga, I meant that the pets that haven't been redrawn yet. Also, don't forget that as the years go by, I expect the same process to happen again with all the pets.
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angelembryo

Oooo, I forgot about that T-shirt design... that <i>would</i> be a cool new Kora pose o.o Or just the current pose with touched-up lineart and shading, of course...
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<br>And I have to say I can't really see the problem with the Kora lacking a mouth in the current pose. Just because it's not drawn doesn't mean it's not there; that's clear to see if you look at some of the other Kora colors. It's just one cartoon drawing style. Look at Peanuts, one of the most famous cartoons ever - those characters weren't always drawn with mouths, but you knew they were there <img src=/images/smilies/6398_emoticon_raspberry.gif border=0>
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<br>Anyway, can't think of anything else to contribute that everyone else hasn't already... so I'm finished. Again. For now. >.>
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Cass

Mizumo, the Kumos and Montre were just redrawn, and neither of them were given mouths with their redraw. o-O Not all of the newer pets have them.
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The only problem with it for me, is that the head looks too humanish.. Too small and stuff. Maybe if it were bigger and closer to the ground and didnt have that mouth xD I dont know. Im voting old this time <img src=/images/smilies/6398_emoticon_sad.gif border=0>
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The art looks beautiful, but I also think the pose is kinda plain. If we could get this art with a more 'mystical' pose I'd totally consider getting a Kora for myself :3
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If people keep saying we have to change the pets to revamp ALL of them to make them look the same... why don't you just take the lineart of the old ones and recolor them? ;.; Can we at least keep the old version of THIS one, please? I miss my old Magnus as it is already!
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I don't like the fact that it's small stature is gone; the Kora was unique because it didn't -have- to be big with long legs or be able to stand high off the ground to be an impressive design; It looks too much like a cat now :/ Plus, I liked the shape of the old one's head.
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<br>I'm not much of a Kora fan, but..I much perfer the old one; it's different. This one makes it look like a run-of-the-mill pet. I do like the tails, though..they look more complete and functional on here rather than the tangle it was on the old.
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<br>But Amylee likes the old one :/
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NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!! DO NOY CHANGE THE KORA!!! *gets ultimate weapon* I WON'T LET YOU!!!!!!!!!
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<br>Now for the comment I LOOOOOOOVVEEEE the shading, Waffie, it is to die for!!! I don't like the pose though. It looks disjointed...or ....too compact.... too human like. IT NEEDS TO MYSTICALLY FLOAT ABOUT!!!!! That is a feature that is crucial to the magic-y auora you sense when you look at it. PLEASE DON'T CHANGE MY KOR-KOR!!!!!! I WOULD GO NUTS IF KIKI9911 WAS REVAMPED!!!! <img src=/images/smilies/smiley_sadface.gif border=0> voted old
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Kabuto

-rejoices- Hurrah! its no long way overly cute, and it doesn't look exactly like an eevee with add ons anymore 8D! I think I know which one /I'm/ voting for. Although I liked the old one, this one is pretty much yes...
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PEACHYz

I really dislike the new kora because it's just so... /bland/. A generic pose. I see how everyone wants the pets to match the "subeta" look, but don't most of the pets with the "subeta" look have nifty, live poses, with personality? For instance, most of the newer spectrum pets.. the charlie with the rainbow, the flying kumos.. they all have PERSONALITY. You can tell the charlie hates rainbows, and anything happy-fun looking. <img src=/images/smilies/smiley_sadface.gif border=0> But the new kora.. is just so... basic. You can't tell anything about it from this picture. The whole magical-kora-mystery thing... not there.
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<br>And I don't want to sound like I just hate everything about it - I LOVE the shading, the lineart, and all that jazz. It's just that the pose is so basic (and I'm not saying /I/ could do better, goodness - I just expect more for subeta pets). I'm sure if Waffles just drew a more lively pose, she'd make tons of FANTASTIC revamps. < 3
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I honestly want to know why people think the new Kora is "emotionless" when the old Kora doesn't even have a mouth, which just yells "blank expression." The old one is not smiling or any other expressive feature at all. The new one works on that very ideal that the Kora should be like that.
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<br>The other colored versions DO have mouths, so what is this saying? We need to update the Kora to match with the new art and the mouths of the color pets. ALL pets will be revamped eventually.
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AniVasion

Artistically, it's nice. But it lacks personality. And the old one has a lot going for it with the pose. I voted old.
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IceMistress

Um. Ohmy.
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<br>The shading on this Kora is absolutely LOVELY. And the eyes are TOO DIE FOR. But. Yesbut. It. Just. Um. Doesn't seem to fit all together. I don't know why. Hm.
<br>The body seems a bit... small, and the legs seem a bit... short. And the head (most likely the shape and/or size... O_o) seems a bit strange.. out of place... or something. o-o
<br>But it truely is very nice. <3 *votes Old*
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Kululu

I like the new one. Better detail and it looks more relistic, especially due to the way the mouth is drawn.
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I like it, but the old pose is so much better.
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Dreamcrystal

whoa! it's a close race between the two <img src=/images/smilies/6398_emoticon_whatthe.gif border=0>
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rawnie

I like it. Especially the shading. <img src=/images/smilies/6398_emoticon_raspberry.gif border=0> For some reason, I think the legs are a little short, but that may be just my eyes.
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<br>But, I am curious. What about all those other pets that had a pending revamp? When are you going to work on them? You know, like the Escalade and Torrent? I think they need revamps more than the Kora does, really.
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oooo please dont change it the old one is far better
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Dreamcrystal

*is torn* I love the old one and I like the new one (makes it easier to draw <img src=/images/smilies/6398_emoticon_wink.gif border=0>)
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If the head was a litle bit bigger and it don't have a mouth, I'll like it.
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its somewhat scary to death. keep the old kora! i think ill start a campaign!
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*is completely torn*
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<br>I like the new one. I really, really do. The shading is awesome, totally awesome.
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<br>Buuuutttttttttttttttt...the old one looked more...mythical? Magical? This one just looks...alienated. I liked the floaty-driftyness of the old one, it had so much...personality. The pose it's in now...I don't know...the felineness just sort of kills the uniqueness. Before it looked like a cute little...thing? Now it looks like a robot kitty with four blue tails and extra-terrestrial eyes. <img src=/images/smilies/smiley_sadface.gif border=0>
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<br>The art really is beautiful, and the Kora <i>does</i> need a little revamping. I love the shading so much...I have no idea which one to vote for. *chews on nails*
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omg i love the new one!!!its so cute and better and and and...-dies- x_X ok sorry you get it lol
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Lyzette

I'll vote old. I really (REALLY) never liked Koras, but I think that this revamp lost at least 85% of the personality of the pet.
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<br>And in my opinion it /doesn't/ need a mouth. What's wrong with no-mouted pets? Maybe Koras have secret abilities to absorb their food, advanced metabolism or something. Who knows...
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<br>So, that's my opinion. Listen to everyone's suggestions here and change it, most likely everyone will adore it, then. <333
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<br>(did anyone here play Parasite Eve II? Remember the horrid camel/dog-like ANMCs? Yup. Look at their face. Then look to this revamp's face. I found this resemblance quite amusing, ahem.)
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It's beautiful picture, I must say, but I feel it somewhat lacks the mysterious and elegantness of the current Kora. oxo
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I always wanted a Kora on all fours!!!!<img src=/images/smilies/6398_emoticon_shocked.gif border=0>.....Now if only it were available in Spectrum.....*Sigh* Nice job..Who made it???
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The Kora has a mouth now! <img src=/images/smilies/6398_emoticon_grin.gif border=0>
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Rex_974

Ludi, don't you think it could possibly hurt the artist's feelings if you just say, 'eww i don't like this one'?
<br> I mean, look at the shading! It's great! You may not like it, but think of all the things you DO like about it!
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Valiant

I will be forced to hurt someone if the spectrum feli changes. NOW THAT"S OUT OF THE WAY...
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<br>I really like it! But seriously, PLEASE don't change my luffy >.<
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eww I don't like the new one
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I prefer the old one because the new kora has almost no expression in it's face. Giving it a very creepy look. The position of the new kora also loses that magical feeling that the old one had.
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I was JUST thinking about that loverly Kora t-shirt that the very LOVERLY MysticCookie designed. x3 *majorfan* And lucky for me, I found it.
<br><img src="http://subeta.org/images/shirts/kora_sm.jpg">
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<br>I think if the face properties and style were closer to this picture, I would change my Torrey into a Kora lickety-split. @User not found: __@ *drool*
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It's the creepiest thing ever! Don't ruin my lovely Kora! The face looks like a porcelain doll, the pose is static, the shading makes it look like it's made of plastic and the tails now look like a sea creature's tentacles. Please just leave it as it is, this looks horrible.
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NekoDramon

I agree with angelembryo...other species need updates/chibis more than the kora. But I must admit, the artwork is BEAUTIFUL. Luff the addition of the little mouth and the new pose and clean lines/shading and all. The eyes look so bright and curious now. ^^
<br>I have a question...does anyone remember the kora design that was on the Subeta T-Shirts way back when? That might be a good one to go with if you're going to change it. (Oh, and whatever happened with those shirts? I always meant to get a few...were they scrapped?) >_<
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Rex_974

It's wonderfully similar to the old kora, but the other one looks more childish, and cuter!
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<br> Voted old, although this is one of the best revamps I've seen yet!
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SailorGundam06

New shading is nice... old pose is better... this one's expression looks too sad. Voted old.
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I like the shading on the new one a lot.. but it just doesn't seem as cute.
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NATALiE

Really, as long as the Chibi Kora isn't changed (at least too much... it could use a little reshading, maybe), I'm fine with this revamp. The Kora is so pretty, and the revamp didn't change that. <33
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QUICK question.. Erm.. Is anyone else having problems donating? *head tilts*
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Dalton_381

Hmm.. one tail split into many. That does sound pretty good, I never thought of it like that. <img src=/images/smilies/6398_emoticon_smile.gif border=0>
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Dalton_381

(Oh, and that was totally no offence to the artist of the current Kora. I still absolutely adore it, just prefer the new.)
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NATALiE

I like the old one's pose better.. the coloring on the new one is nice, though. It sounds weird, but I don't like the neck on the new one...
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<br>In response to Imay, I always thought the tail was one tail that split into many. I kind of like that aspect of it...
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Dalton_381

Hhhm.
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<br>I just realised, if you look at the old Kora's tails, there's no "line" between them, they look like they're kind of... merged?
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<br>Yeah, that just upped my vote for the new one.
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Tailz

I don't not like this one...its just I liked the old one better, the shading on this though is nice.
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I like the old one better. The face looks like a doll face. I wish the Kora, both old and new, had some more life to its face.
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The artwork is very nice, but the Pose is just so.. Nyegh.
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<br>I voted for it, just because I love the shading and lighting on it. And, because hopefully it'll get a slight revamp before it's added.
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<br>LIKE THE MAGNUS SHOULD HAVE. GRRAH.
<br>-Goes to work on her artist application-
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It's nice, but the old one was much better! It had the old innocent and shy-like charm to it! The new just looks like it's worried or sad... D=
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Yarr... Koras. Where to begin? <img src=/images/smilies/6398_emoticon_whatthe.gif border=0> *twitch*
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<br>This one actually surprised me. The new one looks very beautiful, it REALLY does. The body anatomy is PERFECTLY Kora and the shading, *wow*. It's the face that doesn't scream "perfectly Kora." I was actually thinking of transforming my Torrey into a Kora, but now the face bothers me, whyyyyy? ;0; Perhaps the eyes need to be enlarged, or something about the muzzle... >_o
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<br>And... and... KORAS NEED TO FLOAT MYSTERIOUSLY. That's what adds that Kora "spunk" to them. xD They make me think of hyper-active Vaporeons. It IS very well-drawn, but I think the face needs to be more like the old Kora, just slightly... worked on. :3
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angelembryo

I agree with pretty much everyone else - it lacks the sprite-like, light-as-air charm of the old Kora, the pose it too static and dull, and the face looks too strangely humanlike. And I also didn't really think the Kora needed a revamp in the first place. Neither did the Magnus or Canis... true, pets like that could use a little touching up, but there are other pets that NEED revamps first. Like the Cadogre... and what happened to the Escalade?
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<br>Anyway, staying on the Kora topic... I voted old. If the Kora needs anything at all, it's smoother lineart and maybe updated shading - but not this. The pose and features were just fine as they were. Beautiful artwork though, Waffles!
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And actually, the flowy tail can pass..It's just something about the ears that seems they're being pulled upward by string from the ceiling. The fatter base of each tail strand is definately a keeper.
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The lineart and shading of this one are gorgeous, no doubt. And I highly appreciate that this is nearly just the original Kora in another pose. However, I agree with previous posts pointing out that while the Kora's appendages still look flowy, the body is stiff. It looks disjointed rather than just the character of the Kora.
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<br>I personally think the head should be wider, like the old one, but I like how the heart shape of the old one's face was toned down. I think the Kora does need updated lines and shading and have it's face altered to suit the goal to have pet's emotions be ambiguous (the eyes on the new kora are wonderous), but I think this redraw needs to be tweaked.
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Lor

Ooooh, nononooo!! The old Kora is JUST FINE! It's cute, lovable and PERFECT!
<br>The new one looks like a person trapped in a little animal body, and it looks plastic too. It doesn't even look magical. It's losing its cute personality.
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Only

I REALLY didn't like the old Kora!
<br>But if this revamp is soo cute^^
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Mod

Well I like the shading and stuff of this new one, but I love the pose of the old one so much more... Kinda torn here <img src=/images/smilies/6398_emoticon_raspberry.gif border=0>
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Lovespell

Nothing personal, it has wonderful shading etc, but I think I'm sticking with the old one. This pose a bit more static, and the old one looks fine to me, even if it does have a bit less shading.
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<br>If this revamp -does- win however, I'd really appreciate if the Graveyard Kora was -not- changed, thanks... ^^;
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Hrm, I think the main problem with this is the lack of chibiness here... the old Kora had MUCH lower eyes and that suited it much better. The face of this version just doesn't look nearly as nice as the old version - please remove the visible mouth and lower the face somewhat? And the pose is far too static. Sorry, don't like this at all.
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I still say that IF the Kora gets revamped, it should be in a "floating" position, as that was rather important for the Kora - it hinted at it's awesome powerful psychic abilities that allowed it to "levitate"... Or something similar... It made it seem that Koras were mystical beings - and the revamp makes it just look like some wierd "distant" cat creature.
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Aura

<b>Quote:</b><blockquote style="padding:5px; line-height:15px; background-color: #FAFFFF; border: 1px solid #000000; font-family: georgia; font-size: 10;">I honestly don't see the point of some of these revamps. In some cases it makes sense, if the old image is clearly outdated... but some of these pets are fine. <img src=/images/smilies/smiley_sadface.gif border=0> -hugs them- </blockquote>
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<br>I'm gonna have to agree. The old Kora is fine as it is in my opinion. It's not like the drawing of the old Kora has icky lines or bad shading. While this new Kora is very good, I think that the old Kora was just plain cuter :3
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Cass

Good point Minzanu. o-o; I guess the face does look kinda human-ish... I knew there was <i>something</i> about it that was a bit eerie. ^^;
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<br>I agree with Girlish though, no one needs to get nasty about this. Changes can be made to improve the revamp; it's been done before. Look at how awesome the second Telenine revamp was compared to the first.
<br>Besides, if I'm not mistaken, this is the first pet Waffles drew for the site so far. No one's perfect right from the get-go, after all.
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Dominic

Hmm... I find it comparable to a zombie, personally. I just hope if the revamp goes through the spectrum ones don't end up like this. :
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<br>Like I said, the only improvement of this revamp is the shading. The pose, the lineart, the personallity... ugh. And I don't think this one could ever grow on me, either. -.-;
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Rinny

Hmm.. this new one looks kinda scary. Like a little.. kitten.. that's going to show up on my ceiling at night, and drop down and scratch my face off. ; -; Might be the eyes..
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<br>I honestly don't see the point of some of these revamps. In some cases it makes sense, if the old image is clearly outdated... but some of these pets are fine. D<b></b>: -hugs them-
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I know plenty of people seem to like the revamp but I personally don't see any real improvement and it completely kills the character the old kora has so much of. Kora is one of my all-time favorite pets, I hope it will stay that way. This new one is so... lifeless, stiff, and just a big four-tailed cat.
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i do like the revamp,but if i could make some suggestions:
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<br>the position is rather....bland.i think you should stick with the happy-go-lucky pose of the old one,but keep the nice revamped freshness
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<br>the face is a bit long,and maybe you should squish it up a bit.
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<br>thats all i have to say.<img src=/images/smilies/6398_emoticon_smile.gif border=0>
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Jasper

There's nothing wrong with the old Kora in my opinion. Currently tied at 296 each. This will be a close race. O.O
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I do like this revamp though the one thing that does bother me is it's expression is very. :| None expressive? The Kora needs to be more cheery and the eyes are bit odd too. If these were fixed i'd say it'd look great. ^^
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Koras should not have mouths. I voted old because it was my first pet I fell in looove with. <img src=/images/smilies/6398_emoticon_smile.gif border=0>
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What a gorgeous revamp! The colouring is so much better. <img src=/images/smilies/6398_emoticon_smile.gif border=0>
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<br>I don't see why people are complaining, the old one's clearly out-dated, and the revamp doesn't change anything drastically. I like that Subeta keeps it's pet art up to date. <img src=/images/smilies/6398_emoticon_smile.gif border=0>
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PatchedDoll

Honestly, I really don't think the Kora needs a revamp. I mean, it doesn't look old or outdated or anything. The lineart is smooth and the shading is fine. Plus, the old one looks a lot funner and has more personality to it. Like the old Canis had. So, I'm sticking with the old one.
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Dalton_381

*agrees with girlish* Instead of whining about it, why not say how it can be IMPROVED? Your comment really doesn't help, and I'm sure the artists worked extremely hard on those revamps!
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I actually agree with Kyo
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Cara

Kyo, there's no reason to be so downright mean about it. We've all very simply stated our opinions without being horrendous to the artist. You're entitled to an opinion, you are <b>not</b> entitled to tearing the art to shreds.
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the new look is really boring!
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Ugh! Whats with all the revamps?! All the pets looked fine and then you started revamping them!!! The magnus looked great before, it looked like it was a fallen angel kinda thing right? Well now it looks like it just ate thanksgiving dinner! Then you redid the telenine! It does look good now though, but now your going to redo the kora?! The old one had life and spark, it looked happy and playful. The new one looks like a well shaded fan art of the original. The eyes are soulless and pathetic and the pose is just standard. You should either stick with the old one or present some new options.
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<br>Don't hate me for having an opinion, its my constitutional right.
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I like the new one, but the old pose is cool too.
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Strukla

After the Montre revamp, mostly the pets that looked rather good got revamps. And this is the case too: this Kora simply doesn't look as playful as the old one does. This one looks like it has no feelings at all (mostly 'cause of the eyes). It seems totally like a robot.
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Absolutely love it! ^o^
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Dominic

I don't like the new one. <img src=/images/smilies/6398_emoticon_sad.gif border=0>
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<br>I find the face really... distorted? It looks kind of human, and well... ick. And it's not that happy looking, either. The whole thing has lost it's carbuncle-ness, which is what I liked best about the old one. Sorry, Waffle, but I prefer the old one in every way but the shading.
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<br>If you guys want to revamp the kora, may I suggest you just draw over the old line art and reshade it?
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<br>And why are all the pets that don't really need revamps getting them? I still want to know why that angler-fish-pet-thing(Lanturn?) hasn't been redrawn.
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MikiDaCrow

I don't mind the pose, I don't mind the expression, I'm all in favor of more realistic anatomy...i'm not so keen on the coloring. With the shiny spots it looks less like a living animal and more like a porceline doll.
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I voted old. The new one certainly has more depth of shading. But the old one is more active and has more personality and pizazz. <img src=/images/smilies/6398_emoticon_smile.gif border=0>
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Becky_887

The new one would be perfect, except something is just wrong with the face.
<br>I can't put my finger on it, but it's just...
<br>I dunno. D8
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Cass

I think the anatomy and shading are really nice, but the eyes kinda scare me. o-o;; I think because of how dark the lines around it are and how...alien-like they look. They were always like that, but the new one is more noticable and kinda freaky. ^^; I also don't care for the shape of the head. o-O I agree that the old pose with some updates on shading and such would be much preferable to a new pose... the reason I don't have a Kora now (I did have a few at various times) was that I didn't care for any of the colors except common. I loved Darkmatter, but the coloring is horribly sloppy on that one and the aura bleeds into the pet. <img src=/images/smilies/smiley_xface.gif border=0>
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<br>I volted old this time.. but I think this revamp is needed and has some potential. ^^
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It took me a while to decide what to do on this one. The new one has nice shading, but it seems way too stiff, and the back leg is bothering me a little. So I had to vote old.
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<br>I liked Kougie's suggestion, about just updating the lineart/shading on the old kora.
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*LOST its magical feeling. >_> Not love. <img src=/images/smilies/6398_emoticon_raspberry.gif border=0>
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The new one is a HUGE update on art, which is awesome, BUT, as amazing as the art is, it love it's magical feeling.
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Kougie

I think what's getting everyone is that they like the old pose, but like this one's shading. Maybe you could just simply update the art on the old one instead of giving it a totally different pose and such? :3
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<br>... And give it a mouth too if you guys do that. XD Poor butt-munching Koras. /two cents
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I like how the old one is floating around but the new one looks better for subeta's new style of pets.
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Sunnie

Wow, the votes are a lot closer than I thought they would be o.o
<br>I voted for the new one. It's so SHINY!
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Rah

Some good points here. I think I agree that this one, while having beautiful shading; is rather static. It might be nice to see it with a bit of life to it <img src=/images/smilies/6398_emoticon_smile.gif border=0>
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SirWombat

I don't like the new one... it just gives us a blank stare. The other one was cooler.
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Snot

The pose and the overwhelming sugary cuteness of the face on the new one are why I voted for the old one.
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<br>The shading on this is awesome, though.
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Cara

Haha, for some reason...
<br>This really reminds me of, like. When your mother tells you not to make faces or it'll stick and you'll look like that forever.
<br>Well, the Kora's momma told it to stop leaping from nowhere, but sadly the effects stuck and now it's forever stuck like that.
<br>x; <3
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I like it ... but I miss the floating ... it looks like the kora has come in for a landing.
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Cara

Rofl, Mythi.
<br>This is why I'm terrified of you artists and your super secret headquarters. You discuss things that my poor, poor mind cannot even begin to comprehend.
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Eeeei Kora <33 -skreems-
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<br>I definitelly voted new. To be honest, I was never fond of the old one anyway. The shading, look of the face, and the whole thing overall on the new one is just so much nicer looking, in my opinion. I miss the flowyness, too, but I just love the new one a tad more. <3
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Aww, I love the new pose. And was thinking it would be nice to revamp the kora =DD
<br>Though I think the eyes and mouth are sorta scary, not so much cute. Other then that though I love this one better ^^
<br>-runs to poll-
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Nataku

Butt-munching Koras? Oh gawds... xDD
<br>They need to let you poor staff artists out of your "secret artist HG" more often... me thinks its starting to get to you all.
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Magicstar

I prefer the old pose....it looked cute and cuddly.
<br>The shading on this new one is nice, but it's pose reminds me of Medusa.
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Mythica_115

Wow I totally can't type. Haha.
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Mythica_115

Yah. Waffie drew it. :'D Makes me want to get a Kora. My first pet on Subie like.. yeaaars ago was a Kora called Bliss. *gets all nostalgic*
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<br>I'm totally in love with those proposed revamp. It's not *that* different, but is definitel an improvement. :'D
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<br>I'm glad it has a mouth, now.
<br>HAHA.. while we were working on this with Waffles in the secret staff artist HQ.. we were discussing how the mouthless Koras used to eat.. and some really, really scary ideas came out. I think I came to the conclusion that Koras had to be like.. butt-munchers.. since they had no mouths... and then I had these horrid mental images of Koras *sitting* in their food bowls, eating with their butts. x) Gross.
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<br>YAY IT HAS A MOUTH. XD No more butt-munching!
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Dalton_381

Hmm... It's different, what with the mouth, and the pose, but the shading is really nice, and the pose and expression is adorable.
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<br>I have to say it looks slightly strange to me, comparing it to the old, but overall, I like it. It's more subeta style, and... well I dont know how anyone can resist that shading. ^^
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<br>I voted for the new.
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<br>Who drew it?
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Summer

Personally, I love the new one. The old one was just so...old. XDD; I never really liked it. x:
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<br>This one is more Subeta style. c: ♥
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O_________o;
<br>I'm... not feeling the love for the new Kora.
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Nataku

Woah. 0___o Didn't see that one coming. Interesting, I'm... not really sure where I stand on this one yet.
<br>On one hand, the shading of the new one is gorgeous, I love how the ears and tails now seem so much more there, than just kind of slapped on. But the face on this new one seems a little too.. tight, squished? How does one phrase it... the face on the new one looks like it has cheeks that some nosy aunt would like to run up and yank on... the old Kora's face seemed wider to me.
<br>The new eyes? Wow, I thought the old one had those scary jelly crystal eyes of doom... this one has it times ten... I personally never liked that feature about Koras, but I immagine many people did, and you've certainly emphasized it.
<br>The front right leg of the Kora also bugs me for some reason, almost as though it is round, where it should in fact be a bit more engular because of the "elbow" joint. And the far right leg is nearly totally obscured by the front left, which almost makes it seem as though the little bit you can see is an error in coloring... hmm... it's an odd look, certainly not what I'd expected of a Kora... I'll be mulling over this for a while to decide which I like more. Though the shading of the tails on the new one alone is quite convincing...
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Tailz

Eww!
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Cara

Not my favorite revamp, most def.
<br>I think it has alot to do with how the original Kora is really flowy, like it's just floating down from a cloud or something, the ears and tail match the movement of the legs and its action, whereas the new one is just standing stationary, but its tail and ears are still in a position like they're floating, it just looks a bit awkward. Although, I have to say that the shading and eyes on the new one are PERFECT. The shading is really sharp and clear, compared to the old one and it fits Subeta's style much better. I still vote old, though. <3
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Aimee

I prefer the old one myself... This one looks stoned or something
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mysticcookie

I really like this new one! *voted new* I just have to get used to seeing a Kora with a mouth and neck :3
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Opal_737

Wow, this is just simply...beautiful. I admire the shading with so much love. <3
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<br>I liked the old one as well, but I believe that this is more suitable for the newer subeta art. Though, I didn't think the Kora was going to get any attention for awhile. X3
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Okiama

The new looks too....shiny for me.
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Spy

Aw mannnn! Both of them are awesome. Dx
<br>BUT I VOTED THE NEW ONE.
<br>Waffles drew it, didn't she? c;
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I voted for the new one. I think it looks better, but it does look a little unhappy. xD
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Kisrah

That's a pretty Kora, but I love the pose of the current one too. <img src=/images/smilies/6398_emoticon_dead.gif border=0>
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Todd

*runs to answer* (:0
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