The next part of the plan layed out by Sebastian Phoenix was to allow the autopricing citizens of Subeta find items up to 1,000,000sP.
The Senate would like to remind you that this and the change last night are possibly temporary changes.
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Keith
Monstrous_332
Do to auto price 50 million <img src="http://images.subeta.org/smilies/6398_emoticon_wink.gif" border="0" />.
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hollo_c007
Sayonara_Baby its not greed its called supply and demand. no one forces the person to spend the 25 mil. if the person choose to buy it even though they know most people price it lower its there choice. Its their own fault if they can't be patience and so they pay the higher price.
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witchy_woman
I have had items go way cheap because of missing 0 but I didnt get all in a tizzy, easy come easy go,this is just a game, I get most of my wishlist from trading with others and i buy from cash shop<br />
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I have 18 year old grandson and I love this site.<br />
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I never log out so it shows me on all the time.I dont ignore offers, I do have things to do.cook ,clean,laundry
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I have 18 year old grandson and I love this site.<br />
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I never log out so it shows me on all the time.I dont ignore offers, I do have things to do.cook ,clean,laundry
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Peach
SierraRaven - there's a thread about it in Bragging and Complaining.<br />
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And I agree with everyone else that the new shop search is an incredibly annoying change >O What's the point of having an autopricer when people can't find my shop even if it's the lowest price?
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And I agree with everyone else that the new shop search is an incredibly annoying change >O What's the point of having an autopricer when people can't find my shop even if it's the lowest price?
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Cora
Oh no. don't make shop search like neo's <img src="http://images.subeta.org/smilies/6398_emoticon_sad.gif" border="0" /> That sucks terribly. <img src="http://images.subeta.org/smilies/6398_emoticon_sad.gif" border="0" /> Please change it back! It's only making new players, or people that don't know about it charge more for an item they could have bought for cheaper. I hope it doesn't stay ^^''
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Sayonara_Baby
Every day I like this new setup more. Yesterday I was able to obtain an object I have been wanting by trading something of equal value with the other person who wanted what I had - 2 happy people who used the TRADES correctly and not to make a huge profit! Also, here is another example of why the new setup is excellent. We all know that the Costume Trunks can usually go for about 5 million when people price them fairly. Well, somebody has 1 item from a particular Trunk in his/her shop for 25 million. Now that is not only stupid and shameless but the perfect example of GREED. On the Trades they may have gotten it if someone was desperate enough for the item and there were not many available. However, now they won't - people will shop and get it at a much more reasonable and fair price. This site is to relax and have fun on, not to exhibit just how GREEDY we can be!
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SierraRaven
Is Keith or any of the Staff even aware of the Shop Search insanity that's happening today? I cannot find any posts in the Forums about it. Unfortunately, I'm unable to post in the forum due to an incompatibility with my Netscape browser. I can't believe Subeta would change the Shop Search over to the same format that Neopets uses. I absolutely detested the Shop Wizard at Neo...
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Extract
and neopets limits how many times you can search too. I hate that. I can never price more than one page at a time. Grr, which is why I hardly go there too.
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plz dont take a page from neopets book with the shop search. we love the way shop search worked before. I dont think anyone ever complained about it that I am aware of?*on bended knee here* plz plz no neopets shop search likeness <img src="http://images.subeta.org/smilies/6398_emoticon_sad.gif" border="0" /> hopes beyond hope that this is only a glitch....
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GUITAR
;-; Noo. I have to refresh when I look stuff up to buy them now! This is terrible!! <img src="http://images.subeta.org/smilies/6398_emoticon_sad.gif" border="0" />
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Britty
Everything else I can agree with...though I am a little disappointed you guys didn't just reset all the prices in the shops...I would've rather kept my elixirs and sold them at the new price.<br />
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I was pleased with the 50,000,000 increase. <br />
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However....one of the main things I REALLY liked about this site was the fact it was not like Neopets, and made us refresh manually to hopefully get a better deal. In fact, I despised neopets for that. Though, I believe their paid users can use the shop wizard without be effecting by that.<br />
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That...really frustrates and disgusts me. It was one of the main reasons I switched to Subeta in the first place....<br />
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I hope everything stays BESIDES the shop search being like Neopets...that's just *shakes head*
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I was pleased with the 50,000,000 increase. <br />
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However....one of the main things I REALLY liked about this site was the fact it was not like Neopets, and made us refresh manually to hopefully get a better deal. In fact, I despised neopets for that. Though, I believe their paid users can use the shop wizard without be effecting by that.<br />
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That...really frustrates and disgusts me. It was one of the main reasons I switched to Subeta in the first place....<br />
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I hope everything stays BESIDES the shop search being like Neopets...that's just *shakes head*
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The new 1million limit on the autopricer was a great idea.<br />
I've been needing that for a while. ^-^<br />
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However, I dislike the new shop search function.<br />
That was one of the best things about Subeta and one of the things that I disliked greatly about Neopets:<br />
The fact that I had to refresh and look for an item at it's lowest.<br />
Not to mention, Subeta has that "Slow Down" thing, so it isn't easy. My fingers are too quick. lol. O-O<br />
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Hm. As for the new changes to the shop limit; they don't affect me right now, so I'll have to see where it goes before I start posting opinions on that.<br />
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But change is inevitable, I suppose.<br />
You guys have always made wise decisions, and listened to members' opinions regarding such changes.<br />
So I trust you are doing what you believe is best for the site in the long-run. ^-^<br />
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Great job, staff, bytheway.<br />
You all need SOME sort of pat on the back or kind words of encouragement for all the work you've been putting into the site lately.<br />
Especially with all the constant complaining and criticism. ahahah. ;D
I've been needing that for a while. ^-^<br />
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However, I dislike the new shop search function.<br />
That was one of the best things about Subeta and one of the things that I disliked greatly about Neopets:<br />
The fact that I had to refresh and look for an item at it's lowest.<br />
Not to mention, Subeta has that "Slow Down" thing, so it isn't easy. My fingers are too quick. lol. O-O<br />
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Hm. As for the new changes to the shop limit; they don't affect me right now, so I'll have to see where it goes before I start posting opinions on that.<br />
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But change is inevitable, I suppose.<br />
You guys have always made wise decisions, and listened to members' opinions regarding such changes.<br />
So I trust you are doing what you believe is best for the site in the long-run. ^-^<br />
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Great job, staff, bytheway.<br />
You all need SOME sort of pat on the back or kind words of encouragement for all the work you've been putting into the site lately.<br />
Especially with all the constant complaining and criticism. ahahah. ;D
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Apocalypse
Wow with all this changes , I can tell that for all of those that have WEAPONS do not sell right now. we will have a war for experience I can tell that mr. Bush. errr Mr. Keith is going to go and look for some weapons of mass destruction and we will have a war. Another way for all of us that want to participate , to go crazy sell all the crap and get weapons to get some really cool wearables , I know that those who have Weapons for sell are going to be richer ( like mr. bush friends that got all the contracts to rebuild what our bombs destroyed) lol. <br />
I can see where the economy is going and the site as well . <br />
Next thing you know we are going to have Euros.... or the way the money is going are going to be Pesos. <br />
So exited I can't wait to see pets falling from tall buildings at Centropolis.<br />
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Did the stock market crashed and I didn't know. <br />
What is going on with our government , or the Emperor ( Keith ) or what ever we have at Subeta. I know that there is no Democracies.
I can see where the economy is going and the site as well . <br />
Next thing you know we are going to have Euros.... or the way the money is going are going to be Pesos. <br />
So exited I can't wait to see pets falling from tall buildings at Centropolis.<br />
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Did the stock market crashed and I didn't know. <br />
What is going on with our government , or the Emperor ( Keith ) or what ever we have at Subeta. I know that there is no Democracies.
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Panoply
I'm really sad.. I just noticed the new (secret) shop search change, and I hates it. I never used to shop on Neopets because it was such a nightmare, and now Subeta is doing the same thing. <br />
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I am perfectly happy with a page that takes ages to scroll to the bottom of when an item is cheap and common. I'd rather be able to gauge how prices have changed than have a neat little selection of 20 or so choices. And I hate hate <i>hate</i> that the cheapest isn't necessarily the first. Please don't leave it like this <img src="http://images.subeta.org/smilies/6398_emoticon_sad.gif" border="0" />
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I am perfectly happy with a page that takes ages to scroll to the bottom of when an item is cheap and common. I'd rather be able to gauge how prices have changed than have a neat little selection of 20 or so choices. And I hate hate <i>hate</i> that the cheapest isn't necessarily the first. Please don't leave it like this <img src="http://images.subeta.org/smilies/6398_emoticon_sad.gif" border="0" />
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Lady_Eliment
Subeta Gone Nuts!! My shops says sold Item then I go back its still there even in search. WhaaaaaaaaT Is this like a late 1st of April trick!!! ???
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nooooooooooooooo<br />
well, actually, i don't care<br />
well, actually, i don't care<br />
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Seerow
Yeah, I hope its just a glitch with the shop search right now, and not a permanent change. <br />
I also noticed that if you try to look up most of the CS items, nothing shows up in the search. It's not that there are none priced because it doesn't give that message, it just doesn't pull up any results.<br />
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If this is intentional, I think I like it. Sure it makes buying the CS items a little harder since you'll a have to do it through trades, but I do think it will help with the stabilizing of the prices of them.
I also noticed that if you try to look up most of the CS items, nothing shows up in the search. It's not that there are none priced because it doesn't give that message, it just doesn't pull up any results.<br />
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If this is intentional, I think I like it. Sure it makes buying the CS items a little harder since you'll a have to do it through trades, but I do think it will help with the stabilizing of the prices of them.
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laddie58
I'm actually more concerned about the Shop Search page - it seems to be acting up - sometimes the lowest price is say 3000, then you refresh to buy another one and there are now over 10 of them priced less than 2500 - and it continues that way - I don't think that many users are listing that many of the same item at the same time - please don't change it to the 'neopet' way - it was so not good (stank to put it bluntly)
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Tammy
<b>Quote:</b><blockquote style="padding:5px; line-height:15px; background-color: #FAFFFF; border: 1px solid #000000; font-family: georgia; font-size: 10;">So instead of searching for something, and offering far less (and probably getting it) - you have to search for it in shops, and click a buy button.<br />
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I'm not sure how it's entirely 100x easier.</blockquote><br />
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Ahhh Keith I think you are missing my point, it wasn't the venue in which the items are bought, it's the prices that they will become (heavily deflated) meaning that users will not have to work as hard to attain the items. That is what takes the fun out of the game, working hard to achieve a goal, not buy from shops or buy from trades. <br />
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And many people are right, it's only the second day, lets see how it goes,..yes lets see, I betcha when those Shinigamis hit the shop search there will be a heck of a lot more people complaining.<br />
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I think I have made my opinion clear here, and those who agree, agree and those who don't don't but as we have already seen in the past every time the shop limit/ autopricer limit is raised, it is said to be possibly temporary though it seems pretty permanent to me, no amount of complaining is gonna change it. <br />
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Perhaps like revamps, things like this should be put to POLLS, if the majority of users really want it, then so be it, I will be in the minority, but at least it would be a site wide decision, not that you have to make it that seeing as it is your site, but at least you could say the majority voted for the change.<br />
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I'm not sure how it's entirely 100x easier.</blockquote><br />
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Ahhh Keith I think you are missing my point, it wasn't the venue in which the items are bought, it's the prices that they will become (heavily deflated) meaning that users will not have to work as hard to attain the items. That is what takes the fun out of the game, working hard to achieve a goal, not buy from shops or buy from trades. <br />
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And many people are right, it's only the second day, lets see how it goes,..yes lets see, I betcha when those Shinigamis hit the shop search there will be a heck of a lot more people complaining.<br />
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I think I have made my opinion clear here, and those who agree, agree and those who don't don't but as we have already seen in the past every time the shop limit/ autopricer limit is raised, it is said to be possibly temporary though it seems pretty permanent to me, no amount of complaining is gonna change it. <br />
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Perhaps like revamps, things like this should be put to POLLS, if the majority of users really want it, then so be it, I will be in the minority, but at least it would be a site wide decision, not that you have to make it that seeing as it is your site, but at least you could say the majority voted for the change.<br />
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User not found:
"Yeah all the traders are bad people who only want to rip off the others -.-"<br />
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No one stated that -all- Traders were bad, nor wanting to rip others off. I have been glad to repeat trade with someone who is clear and concise in their terms, instead of being shady and pretending they have fake 'other' offers, and when I don't fall for that - I watch their item sit in trades for yet another month...*snickers*<br />
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"Some of you are only to lazy to make a little effort for some nice items."<br />
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No Comment.<br />
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"Wait a little for a response and ask something over mail kills you all -.-"<br />
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How long should one wait for a response, indefinitely? IMO a week is certainly long enough, especially when it is obvious they've been online daily and still ignore all forms of contact.<br />
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"But yeah now you only can click on the buy button.....as long you have the pure"<br />
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Oh but folks will have the pure, because now trades won't sit but can actually BE sold. *gasp* What a concept! <img src="http://images.subeta.org/smilies/6398_emoticon_wink.gif" border="0" />
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No one stated that -all- Traders were bad, nor wanting to rip others off. I have been glad to repeat trade with someone who is clear and concise in their terms, instead of being shady and pretending they have fake 'other' offers, and when I don't fall for that - I watch their item sit in trades for yet another month...*snickers*<br />
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"Some of you are only to lazy to make a little effort for some nice items."<br />
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No Comment.<br />
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"Wait a little for a response and ask something over mail kills you all -.-"<br />
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How long should one wait for a response, indefinitely? IMO a week is certainly long enough, especially when it is obvious they've been online daily and still ignore all forms of contact.<br />
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"But yeah now you only can click on the buy button.....as long you have the pure"<br />
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Oh but folks will have the pure, because now trades won't sit but can actually BE sold. *gasp* What a concept! <img src="http://images.subeta.org/smilies/6398_emoticon_wink.gif" border="0" />
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User not found:
Yeah all the traders are bad people who only want to rip off the others -.-<br />
Some of you are only to lazy to make a little effort for some nice items.<br />
Wait a little for a response and ask something over mail kills you all -.-<br />
But yeah now you only can click on the buy button.....as long you have the pure <img src="http://images.subeta.org/smilies/6398_emoticon_raspberry.gif" border="0" />
Some of you are only to lazy to make a little effort for some nice items.<br />
Wait a little for a response and ask something over mail kills you all -.-<br />
But yeah now you only can click on the buy button.....as long you have the pure <img src="http://images.subeta.org/smilies/6398_emoticon_raspberry.gif" border="0" />
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SierraRaven
Quote: Is it only me or is the search shop buggy?<br />
It´s like searching at NP. One time there are ten items for one price... than two... than twenty... <br />
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It's not only you. It's happening to me, as well. I hate it... I sure hope this is just a glitch and not a change. I hated Neopets' shop wizard. Now the search function on Subeta is acting in the same manner...
It´s like searching at NP. One time there are ten items for one price... than two... than twenty... <br />
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It's not only you. It's happening to me, as well. I hate it... I sure hope this is just a glitch and not a change. I hated Neopets' shop wizard. Now the search function on Subeta is acting in the same manner...
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I think this is a very worthy change. <img src="http://images.subeta.org/smilies/6398_emoticon_happy.gif" border="0" /><br />
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While I did use Trades often, I grew very weary of the traders who:<br />
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1) Clearly don't intend to trade, but instead wait for some unsuspecting soul to over-offer.<br />
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2) Will only will answer questions via their comment box, which is removed from their profile.<br />
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3) Will only answer questions via sMail, which they never reply to anyway.<br />
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4) Won't communicate at all, but expect you to be psychic and know 'their' price.<br />
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5) Mock the whole trading concept via their anti-social descriptions: 'Make it worth my while or this item rots.'<br />
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I could go on here, but this change is fantastic. <img src="http://images.subeta.org/smilies/6398_emoticon_smile.gif" border="0" /> As for under cutters, they really are in the minority, and prices will stabilize with patience.<br />
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If auto pricers use the function responsibly, they won't incur a loss nor add to the undercutting either. Truly a win/win situation.<br />
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As Keith stated too, the average user doesn't have much, so as far as everyone filling their Wish lists overnight, well that's not going to happen. Plus with new items released as often as they are, a wish list is never-ending at best. <img src="http://images.subeta.org/smilies/6398_emoticon_wink.gif" border="0" /><br />
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TheMightyPea summed up my feelings best: "Lastly, as an adult player I am challenged just fine by this site. Not too little, and not so much I feel hopeless about my goals. With so many fabulous items being released each month I think I (we) will always be challenged to get items."
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While I did use Trades often, I grew very weary of the traders who:<br />
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1) Clearly don't intend to trade, but instead wait for some unsuspecting soul to over-offer.<br />
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2) Will only will answer questions via their comment box, which is removed from their profile.<br />
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3) Will only answer questions via sMail, which they never reply to anyway.<br />
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4) Won't communicate at all, but expect you to be psychic and know 'their' price.<br />
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5) Mock the whole trading concept via their anti-social descriptions: 'Make it worth my while or this item rots.'<br />
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I could go on here, but this change is fantastic. <img src="http://images.subeta.org/smilies/6398_emoticon_smile.gif" border="0" /> As for under cutters, they really are in the minority, and prices will stabilize with patience.<br />
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If auto pricers use the function responsibly, they won't incur a loss nor add to the undercutting either. Truly a win/win situation.<br />
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As Keith stated too, the average user doesn't have much, so as far as everyone filling their Wish lists overnight, well that's not going to happen. Plus with new items released as often as they are, a wish list is never-ending at best. <img src="http://images.subeta.org/smilies/6398_emoticon_wink.gif" border="0" /><br />
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TheMightyPea summed up my feelings best: "Lastly, as an adult player I am challenged just fine by this site. Not too little, and not so much I feel hopeless about my goals. With so many fabulous items being released each month I think I (we) will always be challenged to get items."
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Tjulan
Is it only me or is the search shop buggy?<br />
It´s like searching at NP. One time there are ten items for one price... than two... than twenty... <img src="http://images.subeta.org/smilies/6398_emoticon_sigh.gif" border="0" />
It´s like searching at NP. One time there are ten items for one price... than two... than twenty... <img src="http://images.subeta.org/smilies/6398_emoticon_sigh.gif" border="0" />
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User not found:
Is he the one who canceled some of my trades? Stealing my sp and messing with my trades, I don't think I like this guy. <img src="http://images.subeta.org/smilies/6398_emoticon_raspberry.gif" border="0" /><br />
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I do like the 1mil autopricer limit though. That's about where I'd want it to be so I'm all for this change. <img src="http://images.subeta.org/smilies/6398_emoticon_grin.gif" border="0" />
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I do like the 1mil autopricer limit though. That's about where I'd want it to be so I'm all for this change. <img src="http://images.subeta.org/smilies/6398_emoticon_grin.gif" border="0" />
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Enigma
I like this new system. Sure, some of the things my husband spent millions buying for me will probably go down and be worth alot less now but then again so will some of the things on my wishlist. As far as I'm concerned it will all even out after a time. My husband and I for one will continue to support the site via the cash shop because we (I) love the shiny things in the boxes.
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Tropicandy
Adorable Rainbow Easter Cupcake<br />
14mil<br />
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I suuuuure hope you are right. -shakes head-
14mil<br />
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I suuuuure hope you are right. -shakes head-
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Crysti
"All I'm seeing out of the majority of the users is "Grr. Arg. Rage. Blahdiblahstupididea, blahdiblah.""<br />
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I don't see the majority of users being mad about it. I do agree, everyone should give it a chance <img src="http://images.subeta.org/smilies/6398_emoticon_happy.gif" border="0" />
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I don't see the majority of users being mad about it. I do agree, everyone should give it a chance <img src="http://images.subeta.org/smilies/6398_emoticon_happy.gif" border="0" />
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User not found:
All I'm seeing out of the majority of the users is "Grr. Arg. Rage. Blahdiblahstupididea, blahdiblah."<br />
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As was mentioned previously, this is day two. Can we...um...I dunno...give it a chance, BEFORE we bring the Hammer of All Progress Smiting crashing down upon it?<br />
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I dunno about Keith, but I'd be pretty irritable right now if this was the kind of response I'd gotten from whoknowshowmuch hard work pumped into the implementation of a new idea (which, by the way, was created solely to benefit the whole of Subeta).<br />
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Which brings me to my next point. These updates and changes aren't being made for the staff. The staff are there to administrate the site for who, now? Yes, that's right. The users.<br />
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That means you and I.<br />
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I'd think twice about that point before bringing anger into the picture. If you have valid concerns, please voice them, by all means. But don't get an attitude, please. All you're likely to do is get shut down, frozen, or at the VERY least, a negative reaction.<br />
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They are trying to HELP us. Let's allow them that chance, shall we?
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As was mentioned previously, this is day two. Can we...um...I dunno...give it a chance, BEFORE we bring the Hammer of All Progress Smiting crashing down upon it?<br />
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I dunno about Keith, but I'd be pretty irritable right now if this was the kind of response I'd gotten from whoknowshowmuch hard work pumped into the implementation of a new idea (which, by the way, was created solely to benefit the whole of Subeta).<br />
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Which brings me to my next point. These updates and changes aren't being made for the staff. The staff are there to administrate the site for who, now? Yes, that's right. The users.<br />
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That means you and I.<br />
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I'd think twice about that point before bringing anger into the picture. If you have valid concerns, please voice them, by all means. But don't get an attitude, please. All you're likely to do is get shut down, frozen, or at the VERY least, a negative reaction.<br />
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They are trying to HELP us. Let's allow them that chance, shall we?
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Sinful
I love this. I hate dealing with trades. Mainly because I am tired of see " idk just offer". Then of course you offer, it sits there for three days with no response and finally they reject it (if they respond at all).
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Extract
Amethyl 25,000,000 sP for one thing? That's one thing I'd never buy. I've never had that many points or even close <img src="http://images.subeta.org/smilies/6398_emoticon_wink.gif" border="0" /> <br />
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Thelma
Threats never work. <br />
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You people who are trying to use threats ie: "I'll have to find somewhere else to go" "I won't be spending any of my money in the cash shop now" need to realize that threats aren't going to get you anywhere.<br />
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If you think you'll be happy somewhere else then by all means don't let the door hit you on the way out. Just remember to drop all your stuff off in the donation center first. <br />
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If your not going to buy things out of the cash shop then don't, others will. <br />
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You people who are trying to use threats ie: "I'll have to find somewhere else to go" "I won't be spending any of my money in the cash shop now" need to realize that threats aren't going to get you anywhere.<br />
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If you think you'll be happy somewhere else then by all means don't let the door hit you on the way out. Just remember to drop all your stuff off in the donation center first. <br />
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If your not going to buy things out of the cash shop then don't, others will. <br />
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Rayen
You also have some people who won't use the new system but give it a chance, this is only day 2 and most users most likely haven't noticed it yet.
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Tropicandy
I'm not seeing undercutting. I'm see people who are abusing this. I think you forgot a time matters involved with trades. Items in trades don't change price too much because they aren't a quick click item. Now no one has to wait thus items don't have a chance to get to their rightful prices. I could get the first of an item and price it for 30mil and it may never make it to even 20mil if people price right. I don't see how that's fair to anyone.<br />
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Amethyl 25,000,000 sP <br />
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Amethyst being only 2mil or so.<br />
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People do not know how to price on here. I don't see why such a free reign was given. I think 15mil max is fine.
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Amethyl 25,000,000 sP <br />
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Amethyst being only 2mil or so.<br />
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People do not know how to price on here. I don't see why such a free reign was given. I think 15mil max is fine.
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Kat77
Is this actually supposed to be working? The autopricer finding things priced up to 1mil? Cause I just tried to price a Life Mage Amulet, and it didnt find it, so I went to manually price it, and it is only 340k at the lowest price...<br />
Just thought I'd point this out, and ask. <img src="http://images.subeta.org/smilies/6398_emoticon_smile.gif" border="0" />
Just thought I'd point this out, and ask. <img src="http://images.subeta.org/smilies/6398_emoticon_smile.gif" border="0" />
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Keith
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And my point was never OMG you are killing my profit as much as it is what is the point of a game, if everything is handed to you on a silver platter.<br />
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So instead of searching for something, and offering far less (and probably getting it) - you have to search for it in shops, and click a buy button.<br />
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I'm not sure how it's entirely 100x easier.
And my point was never OMG you are killing my profit as much as it is what is the point of a game, if everything is handed to you on a silver platter.<br />
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So instead of searching for something, and offering far less (and probably getting it) - you have to search for it in shops, and click a buy button.<br />
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I'm not sure how it's entirely 100x easier.
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Rayen
When it comes to searching for something, don't go the full name use up to the '&' sign and it will come up.<br />
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As for the 50 mill change I'm seeing the under cutters hacking away already. But as a step against it, once those sell, eventually mine will too so I didn't change the prices, mostly because there where only 3-4 on the search currently. So we'll just have to see how this plays out.
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As for the 50 mill change I'm seeing the under cutters hacking away already. But as a step against it, once those sell, eventually mine will too so I didn't change the prices, mostly because there where only 3-4 on the search currently. So we'll just have to see how this plays out.
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Quirky
I think slowly implementing this change was smart, first off. <br />
Second off, after a bit things will stabilize. It did last time this change happened. <br />
Thirdly, I am sooooo glad this change has come. trades wont be so cluttered and will be for actually oh ummm trading items..gee what a concept.<br />
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Lastly, as an adult player I am challenged just fine by this site. Not too little, and not so much I feel hopeless about my goals. With so many fabulous items being released each month I think I (we) will always be challenged to get items. <br />
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I think the economy is carefully considered on this site. I don't always agree, but I do have a little faith, if things don't work out, change will come. <br />
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enough said.
Second off, after a bit things will stabilize. It did last time this change happened. <br />
Thirdly, I am sooooo glad this change has come. trades wont be so cluttered and will be for actually oh ummm trading items..gee what a concept.<br />
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Lastly, as an adult player I am challenged just fine by this site. Not too little, and not so much I feel hopeless about my goals. With so many fabulous items being released each month I think I (we) will always be challenged to get items. <br />
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I think the economy is carefully considered on this site. I don't always agree, but I do have a little faith, if things don't work out, change will come. <br />
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enough said.
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Sayonara_Baby
I personally think the new changes are great and they certainly will not have a diverse effect on the Trades or anything else.. It is fairly simple - giving or exchanging something for something else is TRADING and thus refers to TRADES. Spending sp to get something is referred to as BUYING and should refer to SHOPS. Now, just how simple is that. I really don't see how anybody can argue with it - some people just love to gripe!!!!!
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Tammy
The thing I hate most about this is that those of us with opinions who voice them with valid complaints, NOT attacking the staff are getting lumped in with the users who just scream THIS IS STUPID bla bl bla and turn this topic into a fighting match. <br />
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The staff may support this idea, and have valid reasons for doing so, but that doesn't mean that those of us who oppose it don't have valid reasons as well.<br />
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And my point was never OMG you are killing my profit as much as it is what is the point of a game, if everything is handed to you on a silver platter.<br />
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This has always been one of the easiest pet sites to make money on to begin with, now it's the easiest site to attain your goals on as well, I don't know about you, but I don't play unchallenging games.<br />
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By the end of this week if this stays like this I will have nothing on my wishlist, a vault full of cash and NOTHING TO DO here. hmmmm *wanders over to google search to find new place to play*
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The staff may support this idea, and have valid reasons for doing so, but that doesn't mean that those of us who oppose it don't have valid reasons as well.<br />
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And my point was never OMG you are killing my profit as much as it is what is the point of a game, if everything is handed to you on a silver platter.<br />
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This has always been one of the easiest pet sites to make money on to begin with, now it's the easiest site to attain your goals on as well, I don't know about you, but I don't play unchallenging games.<br />
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By the end of this week if this stays like this I will have nothing on my wishlist, a vault full of cash and NOTHING TO DO here. hmmmm *wanders over to google search to find new place to play*
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Cadence
What about items that are unsearchable, such as Hydrus Lantern of Death and Shinwas Holy Lance. It says 'This item does not exist, please be more specific.' when you try to search usershops for them. Any plan to fix this anytime soon?
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MEAT
.....You like using the dolls for all of your news posts, don't you, Keith? (the ones related to things going on with the site)
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Keith
<b>Quote:</b><blockquote style="padding:5px; line-height:15px; background-color: #FAFFFF; border: 1px solid #000000; font-family: georgia; font-size: 10;"><br />
I don't like those changes much either, but what can we do, even if we say we don't like them we are flamed and ignored by the staff, so I guess we have to deal with it!</blockquote><br />
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I don't know if you've been reading, but I've not ignored a single comment. Also - I'm not 'flaming' anyone, just backing up my point of view, and my reasoning for the change. <br />
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You could consider what you just said flaming the staff; so.
I don't like those changes much either, but what can we do, even if we say we don't like them we are flamed and ignored by the staff, so I guess we have to deal with it!</blockquote><br />
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I don't know if you've been reading, but I've not ignored a single comment. Also - I'm not 'flaming' anyone, just backing up my point of view, and my reasoning for the change. <br />
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You could consider what you just said flaming the staff; so.
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Tonks
I don't like those changes much either, but what can we do, even if we say we don't like them we are flamed and ignored by the staff, so I guess we have to deal with it!
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I think all of these shop changes are EXCELLENT! I too think the Trades should be completely reset and start over.<br />
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Some prices will go up and others will go down, but it will be a healthy competition.<br />
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Bravo Sebastian and Subeta Team for giving this a try.
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Some prices will go up and others will go down, but it will be a healthy competition.<br />
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Bravo Sebastian and Subeta Team for giving this a try.
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Coppy
some of the items coming out of trades and into shops actually increased this am. ex. "jar of dirt"
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Cheri
I have no problem with the new system. I put my Saggitarius Blade in the trades many times. I asked 60 million, going price. Never an offer. I see no problem putting it in my shop for 50 million. It will either sell or just sit there. <br />
I've tried to sell my Eternal in the TP for 30 Million many times. Never an offer on it either. I see its going for 19 Million in user shops now. I chose to put mine up for now because the lowest is 19 Million and i'm in no hurry to sell.<br />
If someone don't like the prices in the shops, just put your item in your vault or gallery until prices go up or it will become a nice gallery item.
I've tried to sell my Eternal in the TP for 30 Million many times. Never an offer on it either. I see its going for 19 Million in user shops now. I chose to put mine up for now because the lowest is 19 Million and i'm in no hurry to sell.<br />
If someone don't like the prices in the shops, just put your item in your vault or gallery until prices go up or it will become a nice gallery item.
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Templar
Dx I like this even less than the little thing he pulled last night. This is not good. Not at all.
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Extract
fake shops? I think those are the frozen ones and they don't count for the auto pricer or I don't think they do. <br />
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unless there are some other fake shops around <img src="http://images.subeta.org/smilies/6398_emoticon_wink.gif" border="0" />
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unless there are some other fake shops around <img src="http://images.subeta.org/smilies/6398_emoticon_wink.gif" border="0" />
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Im sorry but It seems that all you guys are voicing your opinions and ONLY your opinions count? I am a user as well and Im sorry you feel That i should keep my mouth shut BUT ITS MY OPINION everyone is titled to their own ... Yours is just different
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This new system may help, but everyone should use the autopricer with caution. I carefully look at all the prices before I click the button because of mistakes & all the fake shops with false prices that have appeared lately. But if this works out it will be nice, thanks!
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MEAT
I find this better because there are so many people complaining about how they're trades are offered on then the offer is taken away because they don't react fast enough. Now they don't need to be online!<br />
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Some reason if buying cash shop items is to resell them to make easy sP, so there would be still some reason to buy them from cash shop. That and saving them would also benefit you... Sadly I can't buy from cash shop anymore so I can't say much on this one.<br />
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And, if you don't think your money is going to something good, then don't spend it, and keep your mouth shut because it's just plain rude to say those things- it's your own problem if you think that. I think all the downtime is doing well for the site, I have noticed it getting faster and a lot better and any problems with the site I see are cleared up after maybe a week (mostly the blatant problems, but still, that's pretty quick)<br />
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The money you spend goes to paying for servers, for the staff, and for other things that keep this site going. If everyone stops paying then there won't even be a site to go to, but we can't fully blame this on the way the shops change... I believe we should blame our own selfishness? We complained and whined enough about the trades so I think we're only getting what we asked for.
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Some reason if buying cash shop items is to resell them to make easy sP, so there would be still some reason to buy them from cash shop. That and saving them would also benefit you... Sadly I can't buy from cash shop anymore so I can't say much on this one.<br />
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And, if you don't think your money is going to something good, then don't spend it, and keep your mouth shut because it's just plain rude to say those things- it's your own problem if you think that. I think all the downtime is doing well for the site, I have noticed it getting faster and a lot better and any problems with the site I see are cleared up after maybe a week (mostly the blatant problems, but still, that's pretty quick)<br />
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The money you spend goes to paying for servers, for the staff, and for other things that keep this site going. If everyone stops paying then there won't even be a site to go to, but we can't fully blame this on the way the shops change... I believe we should blame our own selfishness? We complained and whined enough about the trades so I think we're only getting what we asked for.
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Synbar
Autopricing: I didn't usually use it even when I had a GA all the time. Even disregarding the *intentional* undercutters, it's the accidental episode that bites.<br />
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I was browsing for an item recently, knew I could eventually rs it so just kept checking the price for the heck of it. Suddenly there were a bunch for about 1K--I looked down the list, and there was the culprit: someone had missed a zero at the 'normal' price, and all the little autopricers had followed right along!
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I was browsing for an item recently, knew I could eventually rs it so just kept checking the price for the heck of it. Suddenly there were a bunch for about 1K--I looked down the list, and there was the culprit: someone had missed a zero at the 'normal' price, and all the little autopricers had followed right along!
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Extract
I imagine it is very hard. I thought about it once and decided right away that I would have no clue where to start. I think the subeta team does a great job even if I complain once in a while *mostly when I lose the trivia* <img src="http://images.subeta.org/smilies/6398_emoticon_wink.gif" border="0" /> but then I move on.
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kokoMO
I will say this for you Keith and your staff. Good job your doing and continue to do. <img src="http://images.subeta.org/smilies/6398_emoticon_grin.gif" border="0" /><br />
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No one who has never ran a website like Subeta can even fathom what it takes to do so. So people, stop complaining. -hides-
~<br />
No one who has never ran a website like Subeta can even fathom what it takes to do so. So people, stop complaining. -hides-
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Silverfox
I think I've spent like... 50$ over the last few days here. And you know what? I'm extremely happy with everything I got. Including the hardworking staff that gets paid with the money I spend. I've heard nothing but good news, and the staff trying their best to help us with all of the things that could possibly go wrong recently.
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Oh I covet all cash shop items, they are all soooo shiney, I just wish my pockets money lasted that little bit longer lol for all the wonderful new shineys you surprise us with for the cash shop after DP releases. lol <img src="http://images.subeta.org/smilies/6398_emoticon_happy.gif" border="0" />
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Childstar
okay one more comment... again pokes at my gold..<br />
I have seen my money go to good use.. and I havent seen any lag time lately.. Me and my HA have been very very happy.. ( I go gold for her)
I have seen my money go to good use.. and I havent seen any lag time lately.. Me and my HA have been very very happy.. ( I go gold for her)
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Extract
I agree. I love the items in the boxes and things. If I had money real money, I'd buy the boxes and the clothes <img src="http://images.subeta.org/smilies/6398_emoticon_wink.gif" border="0" /> I like pretty things.
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Silverfox
I always buy donation presents because I like what's inside, or I have a friend who does. Sure, they can make you money... but what do you want to spend that money on? More items, right? XD More minions and plushies and all that... just like what's inside the box in the first place.
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Extract
I think they've fixed many things on the site. ;P The garden works, but I'm easy to please. <img src="http://images.subeta.org/smilies/6398_emoticon_wink.gif" border="0" /> mostly.
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Keith
<b>Quote:</b><blockquote style="padding:5px; line-height:15px; background-color: #FAFFFF; border: 1px solid #000000; font-family: georgia; font-size: 10;"><br />
Well it doesn't seem like my money has been going to fixing issues on the site so that defiantly wasn't my goal for giving you my money</blockquote><br />
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Really, and the lack of downtime (that hasn't been planned) in the past few weeks hasn't been an impovement? Along with multiple fixes around the site.<br />
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Again - if you don't think your money is going to good use, or if you don't think it's worth it - don't spend it. You've worked hard for it. We're working hard too.
Well it doesn't seem like my money has been going to fixing issues on the site so that defiantly wasn't my goal for giving you my money</blockquote><br />
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Really, and the lack of downtime (that hasn't been planned) in the past few weeks hasn't been an impovement? Along with multiple fixes around the site.<br />
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Again - if you don't think your money is going to good use, or if you don't think it's worth it - don't spend it. You've worked hard for it. We're working hard too.
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Seerow
<b>Quote:</b><blockquote style="padding:5px; line-height:15px; background-color: #FAFFFF; border: 1px solid #000000; font-family: georgia; font-size: 10;">I think it's the people without the auto-pricer who cause it. Like, yea I know. People drop the price by about 5 mil on some things like it's nobody's business. But guess what. If they just hit the 'autoprice' button, it wouldn't have dropped that 5 mil, now would it?<br />
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The problem is if someone drops it 5mil... then someone autoprices it at that dropped rate. There enlies your deflation.</blockquote><br />
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Agrees. I thought it should be posted twice to increase the number of people who will hopefully read it.
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The problem is if someone drops it 5mil... then someone autoprices it at that dropped rate. There enlies your deflation.</blockquote><br />
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Agrees. I thought it should be posted twice to increase the number of people who will hopefully read it.
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Tammy
<b>Quote:</b><blockquote style="padding:5px; line-height:15px; background-color: #FAFFFF; border: 1px solid #000000; font-family: georgia; font-size: 10;">Good and Bad sides to this coin, but I still love ya keith </blockquote><br />
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Yes we still love Keith, the other beauty of this site is we can share our honest opinion with him and not fear we will be marked for death <img src="http://images.subeta.org/smilies/6398_emoticon_raspberry.gif" border="0" />
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Yes we still love Keith, the other beauty of this site is we can share our honest opinion with him and not fear we will be marked for death <img src="http://images.subeta.org/smilies/6398_emoticon_raspberry.gif" border="0" />
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Well it doesn't seem like my money has been going to fixing issues on the site so that defiantly wasn't my goal for giving you my money
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Keith
I don't want people to spend money on things they don't think are worth it <img src="http://images.subeta.org/smilies/6398_emoticon_wink.gif" border="0" /> I'm not trying to steal the money out of your pockets, or talk you into thinking it's a good idea.<br />
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If you want the items (or the value that comes with them), you'll buy them.
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If you want the items (or the value that comes with them), you'll buy them.
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Extract
I'll still buy from the cash shop but I don't use those things to make points. I buy them to put in my gallery to open next year as a present to myself <img src="http://images.subeta.org/smilies/6398_emoticon_wink.gif" border="0" />
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Good and Bad sides to this coin, but I still love ya keith <img src="http://images.subeta.org/smilies/6398_emoticon_heart.gif" border="0" />
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Silverfox
You know... I don't think the autopricer is necessarily the problem that happens with deflation. (And to be honest, I'm a fan of deflation. There's too much money, and too many expensive things as is. I miss the good ol' times when things were priced reasonably instead of in the millions.)<br />
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I think it's the people without the auto-pricer who cause it. Like, yea I know. People drop the price by about 5 mil on some things like it's nobody's business. But guess what. If they just hit the 'autoprice' button, it wouldn't have dropped that 5 mil, now would it?<br />
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The problem is if someone drops it 5mil... then someone autoprices it at that dropped rate. There enlies your deflation.
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I think it's the people without the auto-pricer who cause it. Like, yea I know. People drop the price by about 5 mil on some things like it's nobody's business. But guess what. If they just hit the 'autoprice' button, it wouldn't have dropped that 5 mil, now would it?<br />
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The problem is if someone drops it 5mil... then someone autoprices it at that dropped rate. There enlies your deflation.
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Tammy
<b>Quote:</b><blockquote style="padding:5px; line-height:15px; background-color: #FAFFFF; border: 1px solid #000000; font-family: georgia; font-size: 10;">If that's what you're spending money in the cash shop for.<br />
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If you don't feel like it's worth it, don't spend it.</blockquote><br />
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Keith have you looked in trades lately? A vast majority of users buy from the cash shop to make sP, they don't have 50 DPs in their trades because they want the items inside.<br />
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Telling us not to buy from the cash shop if thats our only reason for doing so probably isn't the wisest idea if you want the site to make money is it?<br />
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If you don't feel like it's worth it, don't spend it.</blockquote><br />
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Keith have you looked in trades lately? A vast majority of users buy from the cash shop to make sP, they don't have 50 DPs in their trades because they want the items inside.<br />
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Telling us not to buy from the cash shop if thats our only reason for doing so probably isn't the wisest idea if you want the site to make money is it?<br />
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Crysti
The autopricing, I don't know how I feel about that one since I don't use it, but the prices, it forces people to put prices on items, instead of just hoping the buyer will overpay, and frustrating users... And it sorta fixes the sudden something is worth 30m just because no one had it priced when they put one in trades (even if it had been selling for only 5m the days before) which is where a lot of the inflation came from. I rarely bought/sold anything, or bothered much with restocking before this for some time because prices were so insane, or trades so frustrating/stagnant. If I couldn't RS it myself, I simply didn't get it. So many of us have a bad taste for trades, this is refreshing.
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Finally.
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Childstar
Then hand price your items.. poor people like me can have dream items they would never get from trades for that one undercutter..<br />
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you have your point and me mine, they both are good ones.. I am off to work.. who knows maybe I will come home and a caged cricket will be for sale! <img src="http://images.subeta.org/smilies/6398_emoticon_grin.gif" border="0" /><br />
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Have a great day guys
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you have your point and me mine, they both are good ones.. I am off to work.. who knows maybe I will come home and a caged cricket will be for sale! <img src="http://images.subeta.org/smilies/6398_emoticon_grin.gif" border="0" /><br />
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Have a great day guys
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Keith
<b>Quote:</b><blockquote style="padding:5px; line-height:15px; background-color: #FAFFFF; border: 1px solid #000000; font-family: georgia; font-size: 10;"><br />
Well I for one wont be spending anymore money in the cash shop if $5 is only going to get me 2m sp </blockquote><br />
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If that's what you're spending money in the cash shop for.<br />
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If you don't feel like it's worth it, don't spend it.
Well I for one wont be spending anymore money in the cash shop if $5 is only going to get me 2m sp </blockquote><br />
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If that's what you're spending money in the cash shop for.<br />
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If you don't feel like it's worth it, don't spend it.
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Tammy
The beauty of trades is that undercutters cannot be online all the time to accept your offers, and other sellers do not have to meet their prices, if someone wants a deal that badly they can wait for the undercutter to come online.<br />
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Now with undercutters in shops, there is NO WAITING for them to come online. essentially deflating items like mad, coupling in people who don't/ can't use trades thinking those new shop prices are valid, and inpatient sellers meeting the shop prices or going below it, we now have a problem.
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Now with undercutters in shops, there is NO WAITING for them to come online. essentially deflating items like mad, coupling in people who don't/ can't use trades thinking those new shop prices are valid, and inpatient sellers meeting the shop prices or going below it, we now have a problem.
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whisperly
Chibi Sheeta Plushie 3,5m on usershops<br />
next one undercuts with 1,4m... nice start, I think I'll wait a day and buy it for around 500k then? =(<br />
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And other items that are going for 500k in trades are priced with 10m in usershops, if the trades are getting deleted, the prices will all mess up.
next one undercuts with 1,4m... nice start, I think I'll wait a day and buy it for around 500k then? =(<br />
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And other items that are going for 500k in trades are priced with 10m in usershops, if the trades are getting deleted, the prices will all mess up.
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Extract
I mean would the Panda animal beanie or Shingami be so coveted if the cost 5 mil? well looks like we will probably find out soon enough.<br />
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Maybe it's just me, but I don't covet things because they cost lots more than I can barely afford. I covet them because they're cute and I like to look at them ;P
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Maybe it's just me, but I don't covet things because they cost lots more than I can barely afford. I covet them because they're cute and I like to look at them ;P
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Well I for one wont be spending anymore money in the cash shop if $5 is only going to get me 2m sp
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Keith
I don't really see that happening... personally?<br />
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I mean, the items you named are ... well. Still a lot. Nothing most people could earn in a week, or even a month.<br />
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Considering the average user is somewhere around 200,000sP at the moment... I don't see that happening anytime soon.
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I mean, the items you named are ... well. Still a lot. Nothing most people could earn in a week, or even a month.<br />
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Considering the average user is somewhere around 200,000sP at the moment... I don't see that happening anytime soon.
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Childstar
Guys no one is making you list a price lower than other shops.. if you feel a item is worth it then leave it.. some people DO like to bargain hunt.. trades dont stop us bargain hunters.. I usually only will use trades with items anyway.. its more fun, <br />
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and as for the buying a trunk.. it point of buying with cash is to make subie money, so if the item is up for sale.. it still made the site money regardless of who's money it is.. and then it give the person selling sp.. its possible that seller doesnt have the time to rs or do quests, because they work and have families etc.. and thats a quick way for them to make sps.. its something that I have considered doing lately.<br />
No one forces anyone to buy or sell anything or even trade them at any prices.. its up to the player to decide.. and autopricer should always be seconded guessed.. sometimes ONE undercutter can mess the system up big time.. esp lately with some many shops not.. well being found, but still selling..
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and as for the buying a trunk.. it point of buying with cash is to make subie money, so if the item is up for sale.. it still made the site money regardless of who's money it is.. and then it give the person selling sp.. its possible that seller doesnt have the time to rs or do quests, because they work and have families etc.. and thats a quick way for them to make sps.. its something that I have considered doing lately.<br />
No one forces anyone to buy or sell anything or even trade them at any prices.. its up to the player to decide.. and autopricer should always be seconded guessed.. sometimes ONE undercutter can mess the system up big time.. esp lately with some many shops not.. well being found, but still selling..
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Tammy
<b>Quote:</b><blockquote style="padding:5px; line-height:15px; background-color: #FAFFFF; border: 1px solid #000000; font-family: georgia; font-size: 10;">Have you sold any/all of those items personally? I mean, I'm happy to go through the trades and see how those items have been selling for you - but I don't think that a lot of items have been selling as well as you'd like to think (or have been traded for items that are worth equal or less )</blockquote><br />
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Yes Keith I have sold all of those items except saggy but, I do know of people who have paid/sold at the trade price. It's called having patience enough to wait for users to attain their goals to buy your items, which I thought was the point of a game, setting a goal and attaining it.<br />
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Why play a game that at the end of a week you could own your entire wishlist, have the battle set of your dreams, the pet color of your choice and a wardrobe to die for.<br />
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Where is the fun in that?
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Yes Keith I have sold all of those items except saggy but, I do know of people who have paid/sold at the trade price. It's called having patience enough to wait for users to attain their goals to buy your items, which I thought was the point of a game, setting a goal and attaining it.<br />
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Why play a game that at the end of a week you could own your entire wishlist, have the battle set of your dreams, the pet color of your choice and a wardrobe to die for.<br />
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Where is the fun in that?
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I just bought a bunch of 1k tokens for 900k so yes they did go down ....
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Moonbeam
*shuddering* Great, the economy is going to crash and burn...and our items will all be worthless junk. Great idea. *shakes head* Good thing I have tons of vault space...
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Taking two things into account: If the prices are dramatically undercut, and the changes may be temporary.. Wouldn't that give a bit more incentive to buy from other people in the hopes that if the system goes back to normal then you could possibly resell the item at it's normal price again? Just a little thought. Then again, I don't know much about selling high-priced items. Heh.
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Aureate
<b>Quote:</b><blockquote style="padding:5px; line-height:15px; background-color: #FAFFFF; border: 1px solid #000000; font-family: georgia; font-size: 10;">1000 point wizard tokens will be DRAMTICALLY under 1 mil within the next hour</blockquote><br />
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I highly doubt that. Many people are still buying and vending, and about 5 hours ago, 1k tokens were at the same price.
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I highly doubt that. Many people are still buying and vending, and about 5 hours ago, 1k tokens were at the same price.
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Keith
Have you sold any/all of those items personally? I mean, I'm happy to go through the trades and see how those items have been selling for you - but I don't think that a lot of items have been selling as well as you'd like to think (or have been traded for items that are worth equal or less <img src="http://images.subeta.org/smilies/6398_emoticon_raspberry.gif" border="0" />)
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Seerow
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Lovely. SO now all the trades have been canceled we can't even find a relative price to base our shop prices on. Good call.</blockquote><br />
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Heh, I didn't think about that! <br />
Err Keith, can you stop deleting trades XD At least give it a week or two for people to get on and realize and let the economy adjust a little? <br />
I still say trades that are over 3 months old can be deleted now though, seeing as something priced way back when has a very little chance of being remotely the same price now.
Lovely. SO now all the trades have been canceled we can't even find a relative price to base our shop prices on. Good call.</blockquote><br />
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Heh, I didn't think about that! <br />
Err Keith, can you stop deleting trades XD At least give it a week or two for people to get on and realize and let the economy adjust a little? <br />
I still say trades that are over 3 months old can be deleted now though, seeing as something priced way back when has a very little chance of being remotely the same price now.
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Tammy
Ok Keith in the last 5 min. Panda animal beanie has been undercut by 10 mil being put in shops, and then someone priced theirs another 5 mil under that in the last few seconds<br />
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1000 point wizard tokens will be DRAMTICALLY under 1 mil within the next hour<br />
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Saggitarius Blade WHICH HAS BEEN selling at 60-70 mil has now hit shop search at 50 mil, just a matter of time before that deflates to a price to make owners cry<br />
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April 2008 Donation Present is now at 1.5 mil, I definitely will not be buying DPs next month if thats the resale value
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1000 point wizard tokens will be DRAMTICALLY under 1 mil within the next hour<br />
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Saggitarius Blade WHICH HAS BEEN selling at 60-70 mil has now hit shop search at 50 mil, just a matter of time before that deflates to a price to make owners cry<br />
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April 2008 Donation Present is now at 1.5 mil, I definitely will not be buying DPs next month if thats the resale value
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Childstar
I hope you keep it this way.. I think its SO fair and will make buying AND trading so much much more fun, sometimes to me haggling seems like begging, and so many times I have asked a few people offline about a price, have someone online who will haggle somewhat but is still being a BUTT about it... in desperation usually having a outfit in mind, I buckle.. meet the butts price only to get a comment right after the trade off someone who was offline is now online and wants to BEAT the other price by alot..<br />
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I hope that made since..
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I hope that made since..
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Tammy
well I am watching some of my most coveted items hit the shop search with results <img src="http://images.subeta.org/smilies/6398_emoticon_sad.gif" border="0" /> makes me not even wanna work for stuff I want anymore, why bother, I will just wait for them to deflate.<br />
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Kinda takes the fun out of the game, well for me at least, I mean what do we have to work for?<br />
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I mean would the Panda animal beanie or Shingami be so coveted if the cost 5 mil? well looks like we will probably find out soon enough.<br />
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eh I am done now, but I am not adding to the deflation by putting my stuff in shops, I have patience, don't need the sP anyways. Good luck with this.
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Kinda takes the fun out of the game, well for me at least, I mean what do we have to work for?<br />
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I mean would the Panda animal beanie or Shingami be so coveted if the cost 5 mil? well looks like we will probably find out soon enough.<br />
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eh I am done now, but I am not adding to the deflation by putting my stuff in shops, I have patience, don't need the sP anyways. Good luck with this.
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Then sellers should have more patience. <img src="http://images.subeta.org/smilies/6398_emoticon_raspberry.gif" border="0" />
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I've been trying this new 50m limit and its okay though I've noticed alot of undercutting already in shop searches, so could pose a problem.<br />
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Hope nobody misprices by mistake, that would be horrid to find your 5mill item was snapped up for 500k due to a missing 0 :/<br />
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Not that I have done that yet luckily.
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Hope nobody misprices by mistake, that would be horrid to find your 5mill item was snapped up for 500k due to a missing 0 :/<br />
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Not that I have done that yet luckily.
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Stop i put all my items in my vault i neither buy nor sell now.<br />
Good luck with that new system^^
Good luck with that new system^^
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Georgie
Lovely. SO now all the trades have been canceled we can't even find a relative price to base our shop prices on. Good call.
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Seerow
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Also, I feel that MANY of the people who are in favor of this are trying to reap the benefits of getting hard to get items dirt cheap from users who wanna be first to sell, kinds stinks for those of us who work our butt off to get those 50 million sP items only to watch other users inevitably get them for half that price in shops.</blockquote><br />
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I don't agree with that. A VAST majority of users hated trades. They were slow, a hassle, and just generally a pain in the butt all around. I'm beyond happy that they raised the limit so much since it means that I can sell my stuff easily as well as buy items I want easily. I never bothered to get half the items that are on my wishlist or that I like simply because trades are annoying t work with. I know I'm not alone in this and I think more people are excited about easy of buying/selling then the opportunity to gain a profit.
Also, I feel that MANY of the people who are in favor of this are trying to reap the benefits of getting hard to get items dirt cheap from users who wanna be first to sell, kinds stinks for those of us who work our butt off to get those 50 million sP items only to watch other users inevitably get them for half that price in shops.</blockquote><br />
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I don't agree with that. A VAST majority of users hated trades. They were slow, a hassle, and just generally a pain in the butt all around. I'm beyond happy that they raised the limit so much since it means that I can sell my stuff easily as well as buy items I want easily. I never bothered to get half the items that are on my wishlist or that I like simply because trades are annoying t work with. I know I'm not alone in this and I think more people are excited about easy of buying/selling then the opportunity to gain a profit.
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Tammy
They may be resetting trades Tammi.<br />
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Also, I feel that MANY of the people who are in favor of this are trying to reap the benefits of getting hard to get items dirt cheap from users who wanna be first to sell, kinds stinks for those of us who work our butt off to get those 50 million sP items only to watch other users inevitably get them for half that price in shops.
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Also, I feel that MANY of the people who are in favor of this are trying to reap the benefits of getting hard to get items dirt cheap from users who wanna be first to sell, kinds stinks for those of us who work our butt off to get those 50 million sP items only to watch other users inevitably get them for half that price in shops.
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Why do my trades keep canceling them selfs?
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Tammy
<b>Quote:</b><blockquote style="padding:5px; line-height:15px; background-color: #FAFFFF; border: 1px solid #000000; font-family: georgia; font-size: 10;">that means that no one wants to buy it at that price.</blockquote><br />
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Not necessarily Keith. The trunks have been selling at up to 7 mil without a problem, it's not that the items aren't always selling as much as that sellers don't have patience to wait, and then there is the fear mentality that if one person puts it in their shops everyone should because it wont sell otherwise<br />
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Unbuyables that are going to deflate in shops are not necessarily going to deflate because they are not selling at their current prices.
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Not necessarily Keith. The trunks have been selling at up to 7 mil without a problem, it's not that the items aren't always selling as much as that sellers don't have patience to wait, and then there is the fear mentality that if one person puts it in their shops everyone should because it wont sell otherwise<br />
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Unbuyables that are going to deflate in shops are not necessarily going to deflate because they are not selling at their current prices.
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But if you could resell them at the millions, isn't it slightly worth it? Use the theory of supply and demand. If people want them bad enough, they'll buy them. You know?
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smeak
That whole buying the other person out thing isn't going to work very well if the items you are buying out are priced at millions =/
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Keith
I've said it before - this is a <strong>free</strong> market. If something falls below a price, and it stays there - that means that <strong>no one wants to buy it</strong> at that price.<br />
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If you think that it should be higher, buy the ones below the price, and resell them. You have the power to change the market, just like people lowering the prices do.
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If you think that it should be higher, buy the ones below the price, and resell them. You have the power to change the market, just like people lowering the prices do.
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smeak
<b>Quote:</b><blockquote style="padding:5px; line-height:15px; background-color: #FAFFFF; border: 1px solid #000000; font-family: georgia; font-size: 10;">But now look. The Mysterious Costume trunk is already below 5 mil in shops. It seems to be a standard price $5.00 is 5 mil as a price. What is going to be the incentive to buy from the cash shop if I can buy the items in user shops. Everyone lowering their prices 1-10sP to be at the top of the shop search is gonna deflate them in now time, and when they reach the autopricer limit...lol I think I will save my RL money from now on.</blockquote> I totally agree. And if people only drop the price by 1-10sp. We will be lucky..
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Pink
<b>Quote:</b><blockquote style="padding:5px; line-height:15px; background-color: #FAFFFF; border: 1px solid #000000; font-family: georgia; font-size: 10;">So Sebastian has been using the sP from random taxing to bribe the Senate? xD</blockquote><br />
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Either that, or Sebastian IS the senate.<br />
He maybe ate everyone else?<br />
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Either that, or Sebastian IS the senate.<br />
He maybe ate everyone else?<br />
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Tammy
But now look. The Mysterious Costume trunk is already below 5 mil in shops. It seems to be a standard price $5.00 is 5 mil as a price. What is going to be the incentive to buy from the cash shop if I can buy the items in user shops. Everyone lowering their prices 1-10sP to be at the top of the shop search is gonna deflate them in now time, and when they reach the autopricer limit...lol I think I will save my RL money from now on.<br />
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I donno I am torn by all this.
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I donno I am torn by all this.
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kokoMO
Yeah, a great idea <img src="http://images.subeta.org/smilies/6398_emoticon_sigh.gif" border="0" /> Soon instead of paying what one before paid for extremely rare items, you can just play a game of Random and take the winnings and go buy all those same Rare items =/ <br />
Bad idea people.<br />
Hate to see people actually run a real business and not go belly up in days with the way some price items <img src="http://images.subeta.org/smilies/6398_emoticon_sad.gif" border="0" />
Bad idea people.<br />
Hate to see people actually run a real business and not go belly up in days with the way some price items <img src="http://images.subeta.org/smilies/6398_emoticon_sad.gif" border="0" />
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Seerow
I rather like lovesjaydog's idea about clearing the pound. Or at least deleting all the trades where the owners haven't been on in a week or month or so.
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JoAnna_119
I like it, Its good for those new wearables when I vend but at the same time not so great when I go to autoprice and dont notice a dp (which doesnt happen so much anymore) I usually glance through my autoprice page to see if there's any 0s to know if there is any. Most are over 1 mil but not all.
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I hope its not temporary XD
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I hope this is not temporary, it will make getting wishlists items better so you will have more wishlist items, and it will also help the circulation of products. I hope this stays!<br />
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Love you Sebastian <3
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Love you Sebastian <3
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Tammy
I don't mind the new shop limit, but I don't much care for raising the autopricer. People drop items to the autopricer limit just so they don't have to price them by hand, NOT because the item is worth that much. Sheer laziness on the part of players to price their own items deflates them like mad.
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Only 1'000'000 put it up to 50'000'000 go <img src="http://images.subeta.org/smilies/6398_emoticon_smile.gif" border="0" />
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Marianne
So far I'm not liking this: I hate the nickle and diming on expensive items, not to mention the jokers deflating items by half in one fell swoop! <img src="http://images.subeta.org/smilies/6398_emoticon_sad.gif" border="0" />
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Tammy
whatever the changes being made, I am all for someones suggestion in the other news topic, of resetting trades. Start with a clean slate all the way around.
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<3 I approve. But we'll see how it goes~
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Temporary changes or not, I'd like to see how this will affect the economy. That, and I want to find ridiculously overpriced items so I can get a good laugh or two.
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I hope its only temporary
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Luxe
Phoenix for President!! <img src="http://images.subeta.org/smilies/6398_emoticon_heart.gif" border="0" />
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