Attention Internet Explorer Users! There is a serious flaw in all modern versions of Internet Explorer, which opens up the chance of your personal information being stolen.
This is not an error with Subeta, or any website. This is a problem with the programming itself that allows malicious code to take advantage of your computer, and install malicious software, that could steal the information that you use for your banking, paypal, or other highly personal information.
You can find information about this here, here and here is a link to google news, with Internet Explorer as the keyword so you can get up to date news on the bug itself.
Also, I want to tell you that having a firewall does not prevent this from affecting you. Most virus scanners (unless this is used to maliciously place a known keylogger on your system) will not be able to help you in this situation. The best way to fix this problem is to get rid of the software that is causing it.
Now, I'm not asking you to switch to another browser. I highly advise that you move to another browser, not only because this is a very critical problem, but because the other browsers are just better. They use less memory, they are less bloated, and most importantly, if there is a critical flaw, the other major browsers are very quick to issue a patch and correct the problem. We are not being paid by either the Mozilla Foundation, or the Safari Team (or Opera, or flock to ask you to switch browsers. I simply care about you, our users, and don't want to see your private information stolen, or used against you.
The browser I suggest looking into are Firefox or Safari.
Doing a little research on all the major browsers is probably in your best interest.
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Aww, man! I use IE all the time, simply because I don't like Firefox's...layout...and don't know how to change it. I've got Vista Service Pack 1, but when I try to install the update, it says it's not for the right version... Is this included in those Automatic Updates? I'm not tech savvy at all, so I wouldn't know. For now, I suppose I'll just use Firefox.
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funny cuz i always use internet explorer. But then i downloaded mozilla and only uses it when i surf on Subeta <img src="http://images.subeta.net/smilies/6398_emoticon_raspberry.gif" border="0" />
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i highly recommend Firefox browser...IE browser is always slow as molasses for me...i never use it unless i absolutely have to for something that only works in IE browser...hope everyone who uses Firefox also knows that you have to upgrade to Firefox 3 'cause the version 2 some sites don't work right anymore for it...just to let all know <img src="http://images.subeta.net/smilies/6398_emoticon_smile.gif" border="0" />
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And... sorry for the double post, but d0n: <b>Quote:</b><blockquote style="padding:5px; line-height:15px; background-color: #FAFFFF; border: 1px solid #000000; font-family: georgia; font-size: 10;">security firm Sophos said no browser is exempt from problems.
"Firefox has issued patches and Apple has too. Whichever browser you are using you have to keep it up to date," he said.
"People have to be prepared and willing to install security updates. That nagging screen asking if you want to update should not be ignored," he said.
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Got that from the Beeb (BBC), seems like its not just IE =/</blockquote> is right. REALLY right. I've had problems with almost every major browser except Chrome... but that's only because I haven't used it much. There's still time to find a bug.
"Firefox has issued patches and Apple has too. Whichever browser you are using you have to keep it up to date," he said.
"People have to be prepared and willing to install security updates. That nagging screen asking if you want to update should not be ignored," he said.
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Got that from the Beeb (BBC), seems like its not just IE =/</blockquote> is right. REALLY right. I've had problems with almost every major browser except Chrome... but that's only because I haven't used it much. There's still time to find a bug.
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zub0n...... Please, please... for the sake of Microsoft (and I dislike them, mind you), DON'T use Windows ME as an example. There's a reason that operating system was replaced and disappeared so quickly. Microsoft KNEW they messed up big time and buried. We had ME on one of our machines at home and it was TERRIBLE. Needless to say, we replaced it as soon as we could afford to buy a new OS.
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'if it was more secure it wouldn't wooorrrrkkk' with regards to IE is nonsense. I'm reminded of the snafu with the poor Sony rep fellow who really did believe that his company had DESIGNED PS3s to shutdown intermittently; it didn't. The machines would periodically go 'o hell no *bonk*' to save their circuits because they'd overheat. So while the shutdown may have been partially intentional, it certainly wasn't a 'feature' as they tried to spin it. it would have been better to tweak the innards of the machine so as to prevent overheatage, but Sony, like Microsoft, was more interested in releasing their product OMGASFASTASPOSSIBLE than getting it really right.
Anyone who claims Windows is reely reely stabel omg and I'm just dumb should harken to the take of my fiancé's PC. It ran Windows ME and in spite of his regularly maintaining it and my nerdily finessing at it, it ATE ITS OWN BUTT. The program DEVOURED ITS OWN BRAIN, and the computer became UNUSABLE. It was really terrifying to watch. Like - imagine watching your pet hamster turn into a Metroid. it was like that. And the repair shop guys said, "it's dead, Jim; thos OS is evil and rude and all you can do is transfer your significant data to a new machine." They couldn't do anything for it, and they tried. But it was dead. Moral of the stupidstory: Windows ME is dumb as hell, and sometimes Microsoft gets too ahead of themselves and releases thengs WAY sooner than it should, thus resulting in securityfail.
Why IE must attach its butt to your HD is anyone's guess...
*babble* thx u Keef. I'll let the parental units now about this.
Anyone who claims Windows is reely reely stabel omg and I'm just dumb should harken to the take of my fiancé's PC. It ran Windows ME and in spite of his regularly maintaining it and my nerdily finessing at it, it ATE ITS OWN BUTT. The program DEVOURED ITS OWN BRAIN, and the computer became UNUSABLE. It was really terrifying to watch. Like - imagine watching your pet hamster turn into a Metroid. it was like that. And the repair shop guys said, "it's dead, Jim; thos OS is evil and rude and all you can do is transfer your significant data to a new machine." They couldn't do anything for it, and they tried. But it was dead. Moral of the stupidstory: Windows ME is dumb as hell, and sometimes Microsoft gets too ahead of themselves and releases thengs WAY sooner than it should, thus resulting in securityfail.
Why IE must attach its butt to your HD is anyone's guess...
*babble* thx u Keef. I'll let the parental units now about this.
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Patch is out for IE. Go update your Windows.
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I guess I should check safari, opera or google chrome then. because firefox takes the same memory and is slower than my IE, has lower picture quality on the the most random things and crashes at least 3 times a day. Some things have worked better I guess but nothing worth noting.
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security firm Sophos said no browser is exempt from problems.
"Firefox has issued patches and Apple has too. Whichever browser you are using you have to keep it up to date," he said.
"People have to be prepared and willing to install security updates. That nagging screen asking if you want to update should not be ignored," he said.
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Got that from the Beeb (BBC), seems like its not just IE =/
"Firefox has issued patches and Apple has too. Whichever browser you are using you have to keep it up to date," he said.
"People have to be prepared and willing to install security updates. That nagging screen asking if you want to update should not be ignored," he said.
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Got that from the Beeb (BBC), seems like its not just IE =/
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=.= greaat..I have firefox..I hope it works -D8
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Ubuntu = Blah..sorry I just have never cared for ubuntu @ all. Its way to bloated with garbage I dont need. is happy with a tilling wm n urxvt. except now im on Xfce but whatever
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SailorGundam06
I know my post was tl;dr, but geeze... I posted the last line separate for a reason.
No. One. Is. Forcing. You. To. Switch.
...it's just recommended if you're worried about security.
No. One. Is. Forcing. You. To. Switch.
...it's just recommended if you're worried about security.
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Holy shi--!
That's a major issue.
I'm on FF right now, which isn't a problem, but the rest of my family uses IE for online banking and other things.
Thanks for the lookout! Ilu!
That's a major issue.
I'm on FF right now, which isn't a problem, but the rest of my family uses IE for online banking and other things.
Thanks for the lookout! Ilu!
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I suppose I should be happy for being bullied to use FF. =o
Ok. Maybe not.. oO Forced is more like it.
Ok. Maybe not.. oO Forced is more like it.
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thanks for telling us keith! *huggles* glad you watch out for your loyal users <img src="http://images.subeta.net/smilies/6398_emoticon_happy.gif" border="0" />
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CydcieDahlre
Well, I just switched to firefox. I made the switch a long time ago, but wasn't happy with it.... Ah well. Better to use a browser I dont like than to loose all my personal info, right?
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Oki... I changed my browser, my older brother use firefox so I'll be downloading it since I know how it works... Thanks for the information! <img src="http://images.subeta.net/smilies/6398_emoticon_smile.gif" border="0" />
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www.update.microsoft.com
microsoft has the fix out now.
microsoft has the fix out now.
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Ritsu-kun
That would explain the viruses I just paid $130 to have removed from my laptop. I've never liked IE anyway. Thank you for looking out for us, Keith.
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Alzirr
Sigh. Now I must explain to me mom that she mustn't use that crappy browser anymore. Firefox rocks in every aspect, I love it to bits. Glad it's safer than IE, too.
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2Tails
It isn't a crime to use a different browser. Granted, it used to be sort-of taboo but these days it is whatever works best for you. Minus IE that is obviously flawed beyond belief.
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TakaGacktHyde
cool thanks for the info. i use firefox anyways. but i did have to remove alot of viruses off my computer the other from ie.
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IE is full of holes. B| And Microsoft's too busy advertising their already crap programs and hardware (VISTA, ANYONE? *Grits teeth*), and they're not going to fix the hole anytime soon.
So glad I use Firefox. *Pets Mozilla* c:
So glad I use Firefox. *Pets Mozilla* c:
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<b>Quote:</b><blockquote style="padding:5px; line-height:15px; background-color: #FAFFFF; border: 1px solid #000000; font-family: georgia; font-size: 10;">
My husband is an IT specialist and has worked with Microsoft and other companies and knows quite a bit about the operating system. Yes, it has some issues- but it's far more secure than you might think.</blockquote>
Considering that this is an error in the <strong>engine</strong> that has been present since IE 5, I think it's safe to say that they aren't that secure.
My husband is an IT specialist and has worked with Microsoft and other companies and knows quite a bit about the operating system. Yes, it has some issues- but it's far more secure than you might think.</blockquote>
Considering that this is an error in the <strong>engine</strong> that has been present since IE 5, I think it's safe to say that they aren't that secure.
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For anyone with slow computers, I'd recommend downloading a free program called CCleaner. It really sped up my computer, plus it fixes registry errors. I've never had a problem with browser slowness, but I'd imagine CCleaner could help with that too <img src="http://images.subeta.net/smilies/6398_emoticon_smile.gif" border="0" />
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Man it's so frustrating to see a person in your position display such fanboy bias.
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Chrome is awesome. I've been using it since it came out, and I've never had a problem with it, or heard anyone say anything bad about it. <img src="http://images.subeta.net/smilies/6398_emoticon_grin.gif" border="0" />
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Thank you for informing us C: I use IE as my main browser, but from now on, I may use FF for a while until this gets fixed ^^ Thanks!
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SailorGundam06
Up until recently, there were four major browsers to choose from... IE, FireFox, Safari, and Opera. IE and FireFox are the most popular browsers on PCs, Macs generally use Safari, and Opera is very popular for mobile devices. Because of Googles notability as a search engine plus (with all their various applications), their new browser Chrome (which is still Beta, mind you) rocketed up there fairly quickly to even gain an icon on W3 Schools as far as "This tag is supported by these browsers".
There are five major browsers out there now to choose from... which, frankly, makes it a lot harder for us web programmers because there's a lot out there that's supported by about 3-4 as opposed to all 5... IE usually being the "odd man out" because of Microsoft's propensity to make proprietary stuff and try to get their own share of the money for a particular technology.
Either way, the more popular or more widely used something is, the more of a target for exploits and hackers it becomes. Trust me... the more people start switching over to Macs and FireFox, the more you're going to see attempts to get around their security features. I'm not saying jump on the new technology bandwagon the first time it comes to town... wait until it's been around a while and is relatively stable... but honestly? It's only a matter of time. It's happened, too... there have been serious exploits in open source technologies like FireFox in the past. Granted, they happen less often, but they do happen.
Nothing on the internet is failsafe. Where there's a will, there's a way. If a hacker sees enough of a market and a profit (or enough bragging rights, depending on the hacker) in attacking something, they will. It's that simple.
So, instead of whining about which browser's better, it's always best to have more than one. Sometimes, when something's broken in one browser, it just might work in another. I've had that happen here on Subeta. Just be patient, use another browser for a while if you're concerned, and go back to IE later when it's fixed.
If you're not worried... *shrugs* Then keep using IE. No one's forcing you to switch or bashing you for using it.
There are five major browsers out there now to choose from... which, frankly, makes it a lot harder for us web programmers because there's a lot out there that's supported by about 3-4 as opposed to all 5... IE usually being the "odd man out" because of Microsoft's propensity to make proprietary stuff and try to get their own share of the money for a particular technology.
Either way, the more popular or more widely used something is, the more of a target for exploits and hackers it becomes. Trust me... the more people start switching over to Macs and FireFox, the more you're going to see attempts to get around their security features. I'm not saying jump on the new technology bandwagon the first time it comes to town... wait until it's been around a while and is relatively stable... but honestly? It's only a matter of time. It's happened, too... there have been serious exploits in open source technologies like FireFox in the past. Granted, they happen less often, but they do happen.
Nothing on the internet is failsafe. Where there's a will, there's a way. If a hacker sees enough of a market and a profit (or enough bragging rights, depending on the hacker) in attacking something, they will. It's that simple.
So, instead of whining about which browser's better, it's always best to have more than one. Sometimes, when something's broken in one browser, it just might work in another. I've had that happen here on Subeta. Just be patient, use another browser for a while if you're concerned, and go back to IE later when it's fixed.
If you're not worried... *shrugs* Then keep using IE. No one's forcing you to switch or bashing you for using it.
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hahahaha, I KNEW this was coming. IE sucks anyway. <img src="http://images.subeta.net/smilies/6398_emoticon_raspberry.gif" border="0" />
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You know, sometimes I doubt I would even find out about these things if it weren't for you guys. Thanks! You may have saved my mom's (and my grandma's, and my friend's dad's) computers. ;^.^
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Thank you for sharing this with us Keith <img src="http://images.subeta.net/smilies/6398_emoticon_smile.gif" border="0" />
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<b>Quote:</b><blockquote style="padding:5px; line-height:15px; background-color: #FAFFFF; border: 1px solid #000000; font-family: georgia; font-size: 10;">
NoirRaven, while IE is an integral part of the Windows OS you will not suffer from this flaw unless you are actively using IE as your internet browser. This is why Alx is suggesting you get something like Opera or Firefox, the more obscure the browser the less likely of picking up a nasty. Heck if you wanna be extra safe Safari or flock would be better because it is utilised by a small part of the internet browsing community.</blockquote>
Exactly. I dunno why IE or PC users have to get so defensive over this matter. I'm a PC user and prefer it right now because most people I work with have that system. Yes, IE will patch up the bug but people are missing the absolute POINT of the announcement.
Keith and Alyx (sp?) are only trying to be informative and considerate. If someone feels like the message was to bash IE users, that's totally your own interpretation.
He wrote very clearly that he's not telling people to switch, rather he's giving his opinon. And it's not like Keith or Alyx are these hacks. They work a lot more internally here with Subeta, so I feel if they're giving out free advice, it's not to be snooty or arrogant.
It's just a notice to bring awareness and give people options. I dunno why, again, a handful of people take this post as if it's a personal attack, which is completely sad.
I guess I've said my peace on this matter, but just calling out all the potential bs and drama this topic might create by a few misguided/hurt feelings.
<b>Quote:</b><blockquote style="padding:5px; line-height:15px; background-color: #FAFFFF; border: 1px solid #000000; font-family: georgia; font-size: 10;">
NoirRaven, while IE is an integral part of the Windows OS you will not suffer from this flaw unless you are actively using IE as your internet browser. This is why Alx is suggesting you get something like Opera or Firefox, the more obscure the browser the less likely of picking up a nasty. Heck if you wanna be extra safe Safari or flock would be better because it is utilised by a small part of the internet browsing community.</blockquote>
Exactly. I dunno why IE or PC users have to get so defensive over this matter. I'm a PC user and prefer it right now because most people I work with have that system. Yes, IE will patch up the bug but people are missing the absolute POINT of the announcement.
Keith and Alyx (sp?) are only trying to be informative and considerate. If someone feels like the message was to bash IE users, that's totally your own interpretation.
He wrote very clearly that he's not telling people to switch, rather he's giving his opinon. And it's not like Keith or Alyx are these hacks. They work a lot more internally here with Subeta, so I feel if they're giving out free advice, it's not to be snooty or arrogant.
It's just a notice to bring awareness and give people options. I dunno why, again, a handful of people take this post as if it's a personal attack, which is completely sad.
I guess I've said my peace on this matter, but just calling out all the potential bs and drama this topic might create by a few misguided/hurt feelings.
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I should probably worry about this more than I should. But the only computer I'm ever on that has IE is at work. And while I do access things like google and Subeta there, (here rather since I'm a sitting duck waiting for Satan to return. Yay work. -.-) I don't even really know if I'd take the precautions now. One of them MAY be interested in ruining my google or Subeta (bastards) but I doubt it. And when I'm on the computer, my boss isn't, so he's not running around on his bank accounts. I think I'll just wait for the download tomorrow, simply download it and tell him nothing of it. He's the type that bitches about everything and I really don't want to explain to him WHY he needs to change browsers.
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One thing I would like to know is what is with all these So Called experts at MS everytime they put out a new version something is wrong with it<br />
Why can't they just get the bloody thing working right before they put it out,then they would not need to patch it up.
Why can't they just get the bloody thing working right before they put it out,then they would not need to patch it up.
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w0w, since when did this become a forum for people to call others idiots for not changing from IE to another browser? Sure, it makes sense to under the current circumstances, but do we really need to insult those who haven't yet, or maybe even don't want to? Sheesh, rudeness is so uneccessary <img src="http://images.subeta.net/smilies/6398_emoticon_happy.gif" border="0" />
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will issue a patch to fix security issues with its Internet Explorer 7 browser.
The emergency update is due to be available from 6pm on 17 December and is marked as "critical", Microsoft's most urgent level in its four step system.
The emergency update is due to be available from 6pm on 17 December and is marked as "critical", Microsoft's most urgent level in its four step system.
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GoldWolf
Wow, thanks for posting this Keith! I wouldn't have known anyother way -Downloads FF- ^____^ Thanks!!
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Hyacinth_788
Okay, I always use FF, but what if I've used IE before? Is my paypal stuff safe at least? Am I safe at all? It's pretty clear I can't remove IE even if I want to
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Callili
is there any way e-install the internet explorer? cause mine keeps on opening when I go online :/ send me a subeta mail?
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Thank you very much for the update, and I appreciate your concern for our "safety" in real life.
Everyone in my family is now using anything other than IE to ensure that they are safe. <img src="http://images.subeta.net/smilies/6398_emoticon_smile.gif" border="0" />
Everyone in my family is now using anything other than IE to ensure that they are safe. <img src="http://images.subeta.net/smilies/6398_emoticon_smile.gif" border="0" />
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Sapphiress
Oh...my. <img src="http://images.subeta.net/smilies/smiley_angryface.gif" border="0" /> I wonder if that's why my computer has been acting up....
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NoirRaven, while IE is an integral part of the Windows OS you will not suffer from this flaw unless you are actively using IE as your internet browser. This is why Alx is suggesting you get something like Opera or Firefox, the more obscure the browser the less likely of picking up a nasty. Heck if you wanna be extra safe Safari or flock would be better because it is utilised by a small part of the internet browsing community.
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What I don't get is where you get off saying, "The best way to fix this problem is to get rid of the software that is causing it." You do know that we can't get rid of IE for <strong>ANY REASON</strong>... right? Us poor schmoes that are stuck using any of Microsoft's operating systems, needs IE to <strong>FUNCTION</strong>! You can't just simply delete IE. Microsoft made damn sure of that. How can you expect or even suggest to "just delete it"? We're stuck. D=
Every comp expert will tell you the same thing:
http://forums.cnet.com/5208-6121_102-0.html?forumID=45&threadID=298947&messageID=2798022
http://forums.cnet.com/5208-6121_102-0.html?forumID=45&threadID=298947&messageID=2802341#2802341
All is not lost however. The techies at IE are working on the problem and we'll just have to sit tight and wait for the flipping update! That's all we can do! We can avoid using IE in the mean time but we <strong>can not get rid of it.</strong>
Every comp expert will tell you the same thing:
http://forums.cnet.com/5208-6121_102-0.html?forumID=45&threadID=298947&messageID=2798022
http://forums.cnet.com/5208-6121_102-0.html?forumID=45&threadID=298947&messageID=2802341#2802341
All is not lost however. The techies at IE are working on the problem and we'll just have to sit tight and wait for the flipping update! That's all we can do! We can avoid using IE in the mean time but we <strong>can not get rid of it.</strong>
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DarkMonday - with the way IE is, I don't think it's a matter of "preference" anymore so much as "common sense". That's why there are so many alternatives out there. If IE was as good as people tell you (apparently, like husbands 'cough') there wouldn't be so much of a need for alternatives.</blockquote>
True.true. But there are those out there who really don't like switching from IE. *shrugs* I absolutely loathe having to use it unless I absolutely have to do so. Personally, I like FF and Thunderbird (for mail, better than my experiences with Outlook).
DarkMonday - with the way IE is, I don't think it's a matter of "preference" anymore so much as "common sense". That's why there are so many alternatives out there. If IE was as good as people tell you (apparently, like husbands 'cough') there wouldn't be so much of a need for alternatives.</blockquote>
True.true. But there are those out there who really don't like switching from IE. *shrugs* I absolutely loathe having to use it unless I absolutely have to do so. Personally, I like FF and Thunderbird (for mail, better than my experiences with Outlook).
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<b>Quote:</b><blockquote style="padding:5px; line-height:15px; background-color: #FAFFFF; border: 1px solid #000000; font-family: georgia; font-size: 10;"><strong>Microsoft will rush out an emergency fix for its Internet Explorer (IE) software after the discovery of a flaw which allows hackers to take over PCs. Skip related content</strong>
The flaw was discovered last week and attacks were "spreading like wildfire", according to software security firm Trend Micro.
"When the patch is released people should run, not walk, to get it installed," said Trend Micro researcher Paul Ferguson.
"This vulnerability is being actively exploited by cyber-criminals and getting worse every day."
The security breach allows hackers to gain access to PCs by directing people to infected websites.
Internet security experts say the flaw is dangerous because nothing has to be downloaded for computers to be taken advantage of.</blockquote>
Posted not long ago yahoo, previously sky news.
And for those out there saying they don't need to it, seriously do you have any common sense?
The flaw was discovered last week and attacks were "spreading like wildfire", according to software security firm Trend Micro.
"When the patch is released people should run, not walk, to get it installed," said Trend Micro researcher Paul Ferguson.
"This vulnerability is being actively exploited by cyber-criminals and getting worse every day."
The security breach allows hackers to gain access to PCs by directing people to infected websites.
Internet security experts say the flaw is dangerous because nothing has to be downloaded for computers to be taken advantage of.</blockquote>
Posted not long ago yahoo, previously sky news.
And for those out there saying they don't need to it, seriously do you have any common sense?
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DarkMonday - with the way IE is, I don't think it's a matter of "preference" anymore so much as "common sense". That's why there are so many alternatives out there. If IE was as good as people tell you (apparently, like husbands 'cough') there wouldn't be so much of a need for alternatives.
As a side note, good lord. SO much FUD down below. Ow. Honestly, odduckoasis - Do you believe everything your "It husband" says ? I'm trying very hard to not be snarky, and admittedly I don't run IT/networking professionally, I'm just a happy end user, but, really. my pc is secure 'and' I can play cd/dvd's, use usb things, surf the net and basically do anything because of 'not' running Windows/IE and having security and stability. I have had sidux installed for nearly 2 years now, Kanotix previously, and I have never once had a problem due to attacks, cracks, or other outside malicious intent.
(And if he tells you the strippers on his lap are accountants, it must be true.)
Using an entirely new o/s isn't for everyone, but when repeatedly presented with glaringly obvious flaws in the one you choose to use, if a change is not something you want to do, then take the steps provided to protect yourself the best you can.
As a side note, good lord. SO much FUD down below. Ow. Honestly, odduckoasis - Do you believe everything your "It husband" says ? I'm trying very hard to not be snarky, and admittedly I don't run IT/networking professionally, I'm just a happy end user, but, really. my pc is secure 'and' I can play cd/dvd's, use usb things, surf the net and basically do anything because of 'not' running Windows/IE and having security and stability. I have had sidux installed for nearly 2 years now, Kanotix previously, and I have never once had a problem due to attacks, cracks, or other outside malicious intent.
(And if he tells you the strippers on his lap are accountants, it must be true.)
Using an entirely new o/s isn't for everyone, but when repeatedly presented with glaringly obvious flaws in the one you choose to use, if a change is not something you want to do, then take the steps provided to protect yourself the best you can.
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JettFighter
Thanks for posting this article.
I switched browsers a couple of years ago from IE to FF and haven't regretted it for a minute. I did try Chrome for a few days but I think it's still or was still in its Beta stage and was useless. It was very buggy at the time but it has potential to become a good browser once they iron out the bumps. Anyway, as someone mentioned, try and keep away from sites that are known for pop ups and what have yous, but also have a pop up blocker installed. Sometimes it's hard to know what sites are bad if you've never been to them before. Anywho thanks for the warning Keith.
I switched browsers a couple of years ago from IE to FF and haven't regretted it for a minute. I did try Chrome for a few days but I think it's still or was still in its Beta stage and was useless. It was very buggy at the time but it has potential to become a good browser once they iron out the bumps. Anyway, as someone mentioned, try and keep away from sites that are known for pop ups and what have yous, but also have a pop up blocker installed. Sometimes it's hard to know what sites are bad if you've never been to them before. Anywho thanks for the warning Keith.
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DarkMonday
Everyone has their preference, and while some people may have "authority" figures or gurus that say IE is not as bad as it seems, etc. The fact is as a web developer for several years, I know from experience that any other browser than IE is much more convenient and stable...not to mention a little less pain in the ass.
One of the things people don't know is that in a PC, IE is connected to your hard drive which is why when you get attacked, you get it bad. Whereas other browsers are applications add-ons. I wouldn't suggest deleting IE from your PC, rather just simply avoid using it.
And yes, every browser is vulnerable to trojans and spyware, that's a given. However, you gotta ask yourself, "If I get a trojan would I rather have it from IE or an alternate browser?" Let me say, I'd prefer the later.
Safari and Firefox are great options. I'm not sure about Chrome (Google has enough out there: mail, search engine, etc. I don't know about a browser, lol.)
All in all, I know people will have their pros and cons about certain browser. Yet when it comes down to it, turning a blind eye to the severe flaws in IE is reckless. So, again, kudos to Keith for letting us know about the latest bug.
One of the things people don't know is that in a PC, IE is connected to your hard drive which is why when you get attacked, you get it bad. Whereas other browsers are applications add-ons. I wouldn't suggest deleting IE from your PC, rather just simply avoid using it.
And yes, every browser is vulnerable to trojans and spyware, that's a given. However, you gotta ask yourself, "If I get a trojan would I rather have it from IE or an alternate browser?" Let me say, I'd prefer the later.
Safari and Firefox are great options. I'm not sure about Chrome (Google has enough out there: mail, search engine, etc. I don't know about a browser, lol.)
All in all, I know people will have their pros and cons about certain browser. Yet when it comes down to it, turning a blind eye to the severe flaws in IE is reckless. So, again, kudos to Keith for letting us know about the latest bug.
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thanks....
firefox is the best...
firefox is the best...
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crashingnightingales
Well, personally I use firefox with no-script unless I'm watching tv online. I highly recommend using no-script to anyone who desires better security on their internet browser!
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Thank you for this post, which I consider to be a major public service announcement. I haven't used IE for a long time because of all the problems I had then, but I know many still do use it and stand to benefit from this news if they heed it.
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odduckOasis
My husband is an IT specialist and has worked with Microsoft and other companies and knows quite a bit about the operating system. Yes, it has some issues- but it's far more secure than you might think. One thing I would caution, is that by removing IE from your computer is for one impossible, but if you were able to do it, it will ruin your entire windows system, because they're linked. FF, Safari and all those others, are independent of the OS so that's why it's easy to say they're 'safe'. However, most of these other browsers offer very little security, so you must invest in other spyware and firewalls to protect your computer.
Also, if you are browsing the internet and are going to sites that are prone to download spyware and trojans onto your computer before you have a chance to stop it, then it won't matter what sort of browser you have. The key is to stay away from sites that are problematic.
Another little fact, that has been seen- if MS were as secure as you want it to be, it would be impossible to do anything with and would be useless- because there would be no CD, DVD, USB, ect- no extra's because it's 'secure'. Would you rather be able to enjoy your computer and do what you can to protect it? Or just get all freaked out and complain about an OS that you don't really understand.
Just my two cents. You can proceed to yell at me now. I won't reply.
Have a nice day! Merry Christmas! =D
Also, if you are browsing the internet and are going to sites that are prone to download spyware and trojans onto your computer before you have a chance to stop it, then it won't matter what sort of browser you have. The key is to stay away from sites that are problematic.
Another little fact, that has been seen- if MS were as secure as you want it to be, it would be impossible to do anything with and would be useless- because there would be no CD, DVD, USB, ect- no extra's because it's 'secure'. Would you rather be able to enjoy your computer and do what you can to protect it? Or just get all freaked out and complain about an OS that you don't really understand.
Just my two cents. You can proceed to yell at me now. I won't reply.
Have a nice day! Merry Christmas! =D
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Corgi
All the OS's have stereotypes. Windows is the gamer, Mac is the artist, Linux is the programmer. The end.
News posts aren't really a place for debating.
News posts aren't really a place for debating.
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Keith
<b>Quote:</b><blockquote style="padding:5px; line-height:15px; background-color: #FAFFFF; border: 1px solid #000000; font-family: georgia; font-size: 10;">
And while that may be true Keith, you'd have to agree that the "I'm superior because I use Linux and you're a N00b sheep because you use Windows" thing is a little high and mighty. They wanna use Linux, that's cool, but they don't need to act like its a religion and try to get me to their church on Sunday.</blockquote>
I think that it's completely different. If I were to try to 'sell' you into using a unix based distro versus a MS based OS it's because it'd be
A: Saving you money
B: A lot more secure
C: You'd be able to downgrade hardware, or not purchase as many upgrades, as the OS uses far less resources
etc, etc.
I think me saying that Unix is better than Windows is completely valid in almost every point. The only thing that windows has over any other OS is that it's high in market share, do to it being bundled with all PCs when they're first purchased.
And while that may be true Keith, you'd have to agree that the "I'm superior because I use Linux and you're a N00b sheep because you use Windows" thing is a little high and mighty. They wanna use Linux, that's cool, but they don't need to act like its a religion and try to get me to their church on Sunday.</blockquote>
I think that it's completely different. If I were to try to 'sell' you into using a unix based distro versus a MS based OS it's because it'd be
A: Saving you money
B: A lot more secure
C: You'd be able to downgrade hardware, or not purchase as many upgrades, as the OS uses far less resources
etc, etc.
I think me saying that Unix is better than Windows is completely valid in almost every point. The only thing that windows has over any other OS is that it's high in market share, do to it being bundled with all PCs when they're first purchased.
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AloneInShadow
And while that may be true Keith, you'd have to agree that the "I'm superior because I use Linux and you're a N00b sheep because you use Windows" thing is a little high and mighty. They wanna use Linux, that's cool, but they don't need to act like its a religion and try to get me to their church on Sunday.
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<b>Quote By MissXami:</b><blockquote style="padding:5px; line-height:15px; background-color: #FAFFFF; border: 1px solid #000000; font-family: georgia; font-size: 10;">Some people may not have the ram to handle AVG (It can be a ram hog when it scans)</blockquote>
QFT. o__o My machine runs ten times faster once AVG's done scanning.
Anyway, AVG or no AVG, IE is still the slowest browser I've ever used, and I've tried five. Sloth-like browser for sloth-like people.
QFT. o__o My machine runs ten times faster once AVG's done scanning.
Anyway, AVG or no AVG, IE is still the slowest browser I've ever used, and I've tried five. Sloth-like browser for sloth-like people.
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Corgi
Captain_Zaraki, and anyone else with slow computers, you should check out the browser <a href="/redirect.php?url=http%3A%2F%2Fkmeleon.sourceforge.net%2F" target="_new">K-Meleon.</a> It's designed specifically to be lightweight and low on resources. It is, however, a little hard to get used to!
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Hey Keith thanks for the update :]
I immediately switched to firefox from IE. Good to know that we weren't the only ones. But still wished we would've caught it before the virus go onto my school's computer /:
I immediately switched to firefox from IE. Good to know that we weren't the only ones. But still wished we would've caught it before the virus go onto my school's computer /:
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Psychedelia
Aloneinshadow - I wouldn't trust anything MS says about Linux. Why should they ?
And Keith is right, Ubuntu is a very nice "user friendly" way to get into Linux, but, Linux Mint has prettier artwork (Mint is based on ubuntu). Desktop Linux 'still' has a long way to go but it's getting there.
MS are the prime FUD throwers out there, and obviously, people are still buying it. MS has trained you well.
And Keith is right, Ubuntu is a very nice "user friendly" way to get into Linux, but, Linux Mint has prettier artwork (Mint is based on ubuntu). Desktop Linux 'still' has a long way to go but it's getting there.
MS are the prime FUD throwers out there, and obviously, people are still buying it. MS has trained you well.
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VALHALLA
Thank you Keith for posting this for your users! This is a huge reason why I adore this site to bits and pieces!!!
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Keith
<b>Quote:</b><blockquote style="padding:5px; line-height:15px; background-color: #FAFFFF; border: 1px solid #000000; font-family: georgia; font-size: 10;">
and all the MS bashing Linux peeps should read this:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/28039226?pg=7#Tech_JerkGadgets</blockquote>
That's untrue to the core. While linux is very powerful, every day it is easier to use. For example, Ubuntu has made HUGE strides, and is very very easy to use. You can use it without ever touching the terminal (I don't know anyone who'd use linux WITHOTU thouching the terminal, though)
Also, keep in mind that Apple's OS X (Which is easily the most user friendly operating system) is based on FreeBSD which is unix <img src="http://images.subeta.net/smilies/6398_emoticon_wink.gif" border="0" />
and all the MS bashing Linux peeps should read this:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/28039226?pg=7#Tech_JerkGadgets</blockquote>
That's untrue to the core. While linux is very powerful, every day it is easier to use. For example, Ubuntu has made HUGE strides, and is very very easy to use. You can use it without ever touching the terminal (I don't know anyone who'd use linux WITHOTU thouching the terminal, though)
Also, keep in mind that Apple's OS X (Which is easily the most user friendly operating system) is based on FreeBSD which is unix <img src="http://images.subeta.net/smilies/6398_emoticon_wink.gif" border="0" />
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autumnleaves
Thanks Keith <img src="http://images.subeta.net/smilies/6398_emoticon_grin.gif" border="0" /> I don't use IE anyway, it's pretty crappy.
I'm pretty sure you cannot delete IE; you can get rid of seeing it but it's files will still be somewhere in Windows because it uses this to update. My roommate is the head supervisor of IT (students) at our college and he told me that, anyway
I'm pretty sure you cannot delete IE; you can get rid of seeing it but it's files will still be somewhere in Windows because it uses this to update. My roommate is the head supervisor of IT (students) at our college and he told me that, anyway
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Eromenos
I just switched to FF; I love it already! <img src="http://images.subeta.net/smilies/6398_emoticon_grin.gif" border="0" /> Thanks for telling us, Keith! <3
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AloneInShadow
and all the MS bashing Linux peeps should read this:<p />
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/28039226?pg=7#Tech_JerkGadgets
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/28039226?pg=7#Tech_JerkGadgets
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SanyoKitten_319
FF and other broswers slow down my computer more than IE and I don't have anything personal on the computer. It's not safe in general to have any important information such as banking on the internet no matter the type of browser you use it can still one way or another be hacked no matter how fast people are fixing it. It's just weather if you find you have large amounts of important stuff you should use it. I won't get worked up over this but if you do banking ect. I would say you should most likely get off your butt and go to a bank or change a browser. ( Plus FF can't download anything on my computer anyway ) and yes I do know theres 5 other choices.
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Charmander
*cackles*
I don't even HAVE IE on my Mac, so I'm safe. 8D
Thank you for your concern about us, Keith.
I don't even HAVE IE on my Mac, so I'm safe. 8D
Thank you for your concern about us, Keith.
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AloneInShadow
MorriganDraven: "IE has yet to mess up my computer... "
<p />That you know of. And AVG Free is not that great of an antivirus. Kaspersky FTW.
<p />That you know of. And AVG Free is not that great of an antivirus. Kaspersky FTW.
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splinter
<b>Quote:</b><blockquote style="padding:5px; line-height:15px; background-color: #FAFFFF; border: 1px solid #000000; font-family: georgia; font-size: 10;">What the heck is doging?</blockquote>
Now either you have the filter on, meaning that dog should be replaced with b!tch, either that or google/wiki it. <img src="http://images.subeta.net/smilies/6398_emoticon_wink.gif" border="0" />
Now either you have the filter on, meaning that dog should be replaced with b!tch, either that or google/wiki it. <img src="http://images.subeta.net/smilies/6398_emoticon_wink.gif" border="0" />
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Absurd
*hugs FF* i only use IE to check emails cause MSN connects to it <img src="http://images.subeta.net/smilies/6398_emoticon_sad.gif" border="0" />..think my mum uses IE still..hope she knows <img src="http://images.subeta.net/smilies/6398_emoticon_shocked.gif" border="0" />
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LadyJan
Ho-hum. I use FF at home... have done for about 2 years, and so does my daughter on her computer, and my parents who I advised to switch. However, at work, I have no choice, since IE is the browser that is installed, and I am unable to download anything onto their servers. Bleh. Guess this means I can't do my banking or anything at work anymore!
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Yay Safari. <img src="http://images.subeta.net/smilies/6398_emoticon_smile.gif" border="0" /> I love Macs.
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Spider
Hahaha suckers {<
This is what you get for endorsing a P.O.S. browser.
FF runs way better in practically every way. Not your cup of tea? There's Crome, safari, and Opera that work better than IE.
I can't see aaaaaany one wanting to stay with IE.
Its the easiest to implant viruses on anyways.
This is what you get for endorsing a P.O.S. browser.
FF runs way better in practically every way. Not your cup of tea? There's Crome, safari, and Opera that work better than IE.
I can't see aaaaaany one wanting to stay with IE.
Its the easiest to implant viruses on anyways.
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MissXami
MorriganDraven, it's better to be safe than sorry. AVG MIGHT pick it up, but it's MUCH better security to just use another browser. Some people may not have the ram to handle AVG (It can be a ram hog when it scans)
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Artificer_791
This was just what mom needed for her to switch to FF. I'd been wanting her to for awhile now but she needed a good hint to change. She loves it now.
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CastlesInTheSky
Why anyone would use MS anything is beyond me**** Cause Bill Gates Tells Them To =D
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Chii-Bear
The only thing that sucks is if I am on Firefox I can't visit my Cult. I have to fix that some how. I want to start using FF if it is safer.
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Yikes.
That's scary.
o.o
Thanks for telling.
I've been using Firefox for a while now, but that gives me a reason not to get on IE.
<img src="http://images.subeta.net/smilies/6398_emoticon_raspberry.gif" border="0" />
That's scary.
o.o
Thanks for telling.
I've been using Firefox for a while now, but that gives me a reason not to get on IE.
<img src="http://images.subeta.net/smilies/6398_emoticon_raspberry.gif" border="0" />
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Good thing I use Opera then, IE is a piece of slow crap anyways...I waited like 5 minutes just for a single page to load, it's really aggravating!
Thanks for the heads up though. <img src="http://images.subeta.net/smilies/6398_emoticon_heart.gif" border="0" />
Thanks for the heads up though. <img src="http://images.subeta.net/smilies/6398_emoticon_heart.gif" border="0" />
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Obaba
This is a shame due to the fact a lot of companies use IE as a browser because it is one less bit of software to purchase and get a license for. Microsoft should really crack down on the security on their services once and for all since most people may never consider a browser change if they just use the web casually.
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flare
Woah, scary. o_o
I guess my dad will now have to use the 'Mozzarella Firewall' he hates so much.
Thanks for the heads up!
I guess my dad will now have to use the 'Mozzarella Firewall' he hates so much.
Thanks for the heads up!
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thoughtful
The browser research link is to an article from 2 years ago. That is not the best place to start research.
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MEAT
MALICIOUS.... also I've been using firefox for like...ever. Ever since I found out what it was xD; IE was always slow and icky for me, anyway.
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Alleycat
Thank you Keith...major (((hugs))) it is just sad that BBC had to break the news before the US news stations would. Sadder yet, but thanks, that I had to hear the news here...on Subeta...before it was on my news homepage. NOW it is plastered all over the news and they,microsoft, MIGHT have a patch for it tomorrow. Once again you have proven how much you care about us <img src="http://images.subeta.net/smilies/6398_emoticon_smile.gif" border="0" />
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Russianwater
I would get one of them... but my computer would probably crash. It can't fit much more on it... I have tried the other browsers but again, they just commit complete murder on my computer. It's sad really. Thanks anyway... Maybe I'll try another one sometime... Maybe when it won't destroy mee =]
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CorpseFlower
when I use FF it completely slows down my comp...I use it sometimes to update my profile since FF is better with that...but I cant use it for all sites...I have the newest version and always DL the updates but some sites if they have a lot lot of flash/java (not sure which) it wont show the items...just the html parts...But I used to have Opera at my moms and I loved it so I might try to DL that again and give it a go
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MorriganDraven
@Denzel
http://www.marketwatch.com/news/story/AVG-80-Protects-Against-Dangerous/story.aspx?guid=%7B505EE597-57BF-4CEF-95CF-7529EA52AD94%7D
I'm not deleting IE for something I don't see as a threat to me.
http://www.marketwatch.com/news/story/AVG-80-Protects-Against-Dangerous/story.aspx?guid=%7B505EE597-57BF-4CEF-95CF-7529EA52AD94%7D
I'm not deleting IE for something I don't see as a threat to me.
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Blir
I used to whine all the time about how Firefox was irritating or didn't work; but since there was the wardrobe glitch with IE, I switched. It sounds cheesy- but it was probably one of the best decisions ever. Subeta works SO much better. Same with basically other website.
It's less bulky, and definitely safter than IE or any other browser I've used. It takes a bit of getting used to, but grin & bear it for a little while, and you won't regret it.
It's less bulky, and definitely safter than IE or any other browser I've used. It takes a bit of getting used to, but grin & bear it for a little while, and you won't regret it.
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Zel
@MorriganDraven:
From the post you're commenting on:
Most virus scanners (unless this is used to maliciously place a known keylogger on your system) will not be able to help you in this situation. The best way to fix this problem is to get rid of the software that is causing it.
From the post you're commenting on:
Most virus scanners (unless this is used to maliciously place a known keylogger on your system) will not be able to help you in this situation. The best way to fix this problem is to get rid of the software that is causing it.
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MorriganDraven
@Denzel
I found out why it's not messing up. I have AVG 8.0.
To those who can't switch browsers - I hightly advise you get it. It's free.
I found out why it's not messing up. I have AVG 8.0.
To those who can't switch browsers - I hightly advise you get it. It's free.
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Zel
@MorriganDraven:
That doesn't mean it won't. I seriously suggest, for your computer's safety, that you switch to a different browser.
That doesn't mean it won't. I seriously suggest, for your computer's safety, that you switch to a different browser.
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Outline
Thank you! I was warned irl as well,and switched to Firefox. Which I know love <img src="http://images.subeta.net/smilies/6398_emoticon_smile.gif" border="0" />
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To people wondering if you should uninstall it-
I don't use IE at all, and neither does my family. But we kept getting these random popups from it despite not even opening IE. So I would suggest deleting it to be safe. =)
I don't use IE at all, and neither does my family. But we kept getting these random popups from it despite not even opening IE. So I would suggest deleting it to be safe. =)
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Psychedelia
Linux + Iceweasel ftw.
While you're changing your browser, why not change your o/s to something a bit more secure as well <img src="http://images.subeta.net/smilies/6398_emoticon_wink.gif" border="0" />
Open source fangirl. Why anyone would use MS anything is beyond me. This isn't the first security flaw, nor will it be the last. This is just the most recent, and covering a larger area at one time.
If you absolutely MUST use windows/IE, look into using it in a virtual environment, box it up. makes it a bit better. a 'bit'
While you're changing your browser, why not change your o/s to something a bit more secure as well <img src="http://images.subeta.net/smilies/6398_emoticon_wink.gif" border="0" />
Open source fangirl. Why anyone would use MS anything is beyond me. This isn't the first security flaw, nor will it be the last. This is just the most recent, and covering a larger area at one time.
If you absolutely MUST use windows/IE, look into using it in a virtual environment, box it up. makes it a bit better. a 'bit'
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Thank you for this! I was wondering what these stupid popups were from. x.x -deleted IE- I don't use it, but argh. x.x
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TheLoneTiel
I'm a little miffed that this is causing such a stir today, but has been known for over a week and a patch is expected tomorrow. *shrug* Seems like a lot of worry over something that'll be fixed pretty soon.
But, uh. It is very rude and ignorant to say that someone's preferences for a browser are "stupid". I've never been fond of IE but I know people I respect greatly who use the program, and I know their decisions are not based on ignorance or a lack of IQ. It is often better to keep inconsiderate comments to yourself or at least phrase them in less obviously insulting ways.
But, uh. It is very rude and ignorant to say that someone's preferences for a browser are "stupid". I've never been fond of IE but I know people I respect greatly who use the program, and I know their decisions are not based on ignorance or a lack of IQ. It is often better to keep inconsiderate comments to yourself or at least phrase them in less obviously insulting ways.
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Raene
I'm primarily a Firefox user, but still used IE for a few things that wouldn't work for me in FF. A few days ago, I acquired Google's Chrome and have been using that in lieu of IE for those things. Sounds like it's a good thing I did! <img src="http://images.subeta.net/smilies/6398_emoticon_happy.gif" border="0" />
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Fraggle
Thanks Keith. The heads up is appreciated!
Personally, I like to use FF, but I still have accounts that I handle on IE just because it was.... there already. I'll be making my switch.... and convince my husband now <img src="http://images.subeta.net/smilies/6398_emoticon_smile.gif" border="0" />
Personally, I like to use FF, but I still have accounts that I handle on IE just because it was.... there already. I'll be making my switch.... and convince my husband now <img src="http://images.subeta.net/smilies/6398_emoticon_smile.gif" border="0" />
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Kirce
I use FF, but I'm wondering if we should unistall IE to be as safe as possible? or just not using it will be good enough?
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Thanks I guess I swithced to ff too
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Bliss
Thank you for the update Keith! Hearing and seeing this, I just switched over to FF, even though IE is still on my desktop n-n
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fuzzy1317
thank you keith! a really good excuse to get my step-dad to change to firefox ! *dramaticvictorypose* XD
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Childstar
Ahh-- cool when I do go back I use an old version. However still forget it.. I will fully move over to FF
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Wow good wording, I use firefox anyway...keep up the good work
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Childstar
I moved over to firefox for sometime now.. however I have old bookmarks on IE that I go back and use from time to time.. not anymore!! Thank you for this information. <img src="http://images.subeta.net/smilies/6398_emoticon_grin.gif" border="0" />
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Diana
Even without the threat, why would any intelligent person use IE? Seriously...it does not compare to FF and probably the others Keith mentioned. IE uses caching so when playing a game online you may get an outdated page and not an accurate real time view of your game. Example: items that you thought you had appear to not be there.
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ChillyKitten
Goooooo Firefox! <br /> Thanks for the warning, Keith. Even though I dont use IE, i probably would have had no idea about this problem had I not looked here. Oddly enough it hasn't exactly been widely covered by the television news. <img src="http://images.subeta.net/smilies/6398_emoticon_sigh.gif" border="0" /> I do appreciate this warning. ^^
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zazzie
Woah thats really scary! <img src="http://images.subeta.net/smilies/6398_emoticon_sad.gif" border="0" />
ive always used firefox anyways, much
faster and doesnt crash ! <img src="http://images.subeta.net/smilies/6398_emoticon_smile.gif" border="0" />
everyone please be safe! <img src="http://images.subeta.net/smilies/6398_emoticon_smile.gif" border="0" />
ive always used firefox anyways, much
faster and doesnt crash ! <img src="http://images.subeta.net/smilies/6398_emoticon_smile.gif" border="0" />
everyone please be safe! <img src="http://images.subeta.net/smilies/6398_emoticon_smile.gif" border="0" />
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infinite_436
Haha, no more browsing subeta at school for me D; They only have IE installed there <img src="http://images.subeta.net/smilies/6398_emoticon_raspberry.gif" border="0" />
Thanks for the warning Keith!
Thanks for the warning Keith!
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Slowerthanzero
Ugg.. I told my mom about this and she got mad at me saying she was safe cause she had a firewall. I don't think there would be a big deal about this if firewalls could protect you.. Well.. I'm just glad I use Fire Fox... x.x
Firewalls don't prevent virus getting in... ///
Yeah I know. That's what I keep telling my mom but she doesn't believe anything I'm telling her about this.. Even when I tell her there are multiple sources on the matter. x.x
Firewalls don't prevent virus getting in... ///
Yeah I know. That's what I keep telling my mom but she doesn't believe anything I'm telling her about this.. Even when I tell her there are multiple sources on the matter. x.x
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dannygyrrl
thanks Keef! I use Safari and despite it's flaws (i.e. I have to buy CS items in FF cause Safari buys multiple items till my credits are gone LOL) it still works faster and better for me XD
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DNA_558
You aren't in any danger if IE is on your computer and you're not using it. <img src="http://images.subeta.net/smilies/6398_emoticon_smile.gif" border="0" /> It's just browsing sites on it that puts you at risk--you don't necessarily need to uninstall.
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Lmao I Always Use Firefox ;P
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itsdarkatnight
Thank you very much, Keith-san. I appreciate this a lot, as I had no idea this problem existed and I am a huge IE user (though I use FF for Subeta). It looks like I'll be using FF a lot more from now on. <img src="http://images.subeta.net/smilies/6398_emoticon_smile.gif" border="0" />
Thanks again for taking the time to draw our attention to this problem.
Thanks again for taking the time to draw our attention to this problem.
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Twoflower_383
Love the use of the Skulls of Mortal Terror ;DD
Well good thing I'm a Chrome patriot (:
Well good thing I'm a Chrome patriot (:
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smilesnz
Basically don't use IE till Microsoft have patched and fixed the flaw, once you know its all good and fixed, then go back to using IE if you still prefer it over the other browsers. But right now IE is not safe to use.
Thanks Keith for the update<img src="http://images.subeta.net/smilies/6398_emoticon_smile.gif" border="0" />
Thanks Keith for the update<img src="http://images.subeta.net/smilies/6398_emoticon_smile.gif" border="0" />
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gumcrazy
I'm really glad I was noted! I use IE all the time, I would still be on it if it weren't for this post. Thank you.
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I use Google Chrome and it works great for me...Better than Firefox. Just my opinion.
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Cinnatrim
I actually heard about this on the news this morning.
Thanks for the warning.
*uses FF anyway*
Thanks for the warning.
*uses FF anyway*
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primarily
I love how you guys added that legal stuff, and the maliciousness of it all *SKULLS* XD I switched to firefox ages ago and I've never looked back <img src="http://images.subeta.net/smilies/6398_emoticon_grin.gif" border="0" />
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finallyoffthisride
most people have IE on their computers, I guess if you're really concerned delete any cookies from it and don't use it. they are working to fix the problem.
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_blackwolf_2009_
My question is similar to blackwolf's I have IE explorer, but I don't use it. Will it harm my computer if it is still on my computer? Should I delete the program? Or is it okay to just let it sit there?
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It should be is how I'm thinking it but I'm not sure waiting for a reply. Which it kinda sucks cuz my gf needs into her hotmail and shes afraid to use it now cuz of that and shes got like 40 e-mails in it.
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It should be is how I'm thinking it but I'm not sure waiting for a reply. Which it kinda sucks cuz my gf needs into her hotmail and shes afraid to use it now cuz of that and shes got like 40 e-mails in it.
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I'm glad my Dad made us switch to FF a while ago
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amandajean
i think as long as you aren't using IE and are using FF you guys should be safe <img src="http://images.subeta.net/smilies/6398_emoticon_smile.gif" border="0" /> i have IE on my computer as well, but never use it. None of my passwords or other info is saved in it. FF is my king lol. it's unfortunate people aren't listening to the warnings though :/ good thing i got my parents on FF a year ago. they never use IE anymore.
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SleepyxTunaxFish
My question is similar to blackwolf's:
I have IE explorer, but I don't use it. Will it harm my computer if it is still on my computer? Should I delete the program? Or is it okay to just let it sit there?
I have IE explorer, but I don't use it. Will it harm my computer if it is still on my computer? Should I delete the program? Or is it okay to just let it sit there?
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_blackwolf_2009_
I still have IE but I use Firefox more than anything now since its faster and doesnt freeze for a few seconds when its loading up. Only thing I use it for is stuff like Youtube when its messing up or something else that requires it. Plus neopets to a point. But I don't think still having IE is going to be a problem just using it right?
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Does it cost $ if you have two internet things (example: IE and Safari) and IE is your main but you use Safari?
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Merry
I remember when Firefox first came out, lots of people were advising us to switch because they said that IE would soon be overridden with viruses and issues. It took a few years, but now it's happened! <img src="http://images.subeta.net/smilies/smiley_sadface.gif" border="0" /> (Lucky thing I switched... I never use IE anymore anyway. xD)
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Aishiru
I frankly am glad that I use Firefox over IE. I switched over last year if I'm not correct. Anyway, should people who still have the program delete it?
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finallyoffthisride
you people need to stop your whinging and be thanking someone for bothering to give you a warning! how many gamesites would actually bother warning its players? they think its your problem. So perhaps you should be a little more greatful that Keith has gone OUT OF HIS WAY to help us. bleh -.-
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Chou
I'm a really happy long-time Firefox user for about 5 years I guess,
never had a problem with it! I can't understand that people still use
IE! <img src="http://images.subeta.net/smilies/smiley_xface.gif" border="0" />
never had a problem with it! I can't understand that people still use
IE! <img src="http://images.subeta.net/smilies/smiley_xface.gif" border="0" />
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CastlesInTheSky
what happened to the other one? n like i said on the other one
this Exploit has apparently been around since Saturday.
Windows is a piece o' crap OS. The FREE OSes out there are well just better
this Exploit has apparently been around since Saturday.
Windows is a piece o' crap OS. The FREE OSes out there are well just better
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Keilp
Yeah, I noticed that lately my virus scan had been coming up with tracking cookies and whatnot when I was using IE, even when I was just visiting the common sites I go to everyday and never give me trouble. :/
Oh well, I already had downloaded Firefox and just added Safari because Firefox is a bit weird on my computer.
Oh well, I already had downloaded Firefox and just added Safari because Firefox is a bit weird on my computer.
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Trident_133
bout time iswitched anyway <img src="http://images.subeta.net/smilies/6398_emoticon_smile.gif" border="0" />
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Skidd
People who simply won't change to a better browser for stupid reasons.
IE is a piece o' crap program. The FREE browsers out there, Safari, Firefox, Opera, Chrome, etc, are superior in every way. I've been using Firefox for about four years, and I've NEVER had a problem with it, and it comes with plenty of benefits.
IE is a piece o' crap program. The FREE browsers out there, Safari, Firefox, Opera, Chrome, etc, are superior in every way. I've been using Firefox for about four years, and I've NEVER had a problem with it, and it comes with plenty of benefits.
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splinter
<b>Quote:</b><blockquote style="padding:5px; line-height:15px; background-color: #FAFFFF; border: 1px solid #000000; font-family: georgia; font-size: 10;">Believe it or not, yes. We're probably going to be for another round of bitching of headstrong people in about ten minutes.</blockquote>
Wow! Bitching because someone pointed out a serious flaw in one of the most used browsers, great way to thank the warning we were given. -rolls eyes-
Wow! Bitching because someone pointed out a serious flaw in one of the most used browsers, great way to thank the warning we were given. -rolls eyes-
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Cassiopeia_875
Goodness, I hope there's a better response to this public service announcement than last time. Subeta isn't getting PAID to endorse another browser.
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That's been happenin' forever, not really new o3o;
But thanks for the warning, it's finally come out on the news and stuff...
But thanks for the warning, it's finally come out on the news and stuff...
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splinter
Ugg.. I told my mom about this and she got mad at me saying she was safe cause she had a firewall. I don't think there would be a big deal about this if firewalls could protect you.. Well.. I'm just glad I use Fire Fox... x.x
Firewalls don't prevent virus getting in...
Firewalls don't prevent virus getting in...
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Rusty
<strong>Thanks</strong> for the <strong>tip</strong> Keef <img src="http://images.subeta.net/smilies/6398_emoticon_wink.gif" border="0" />
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CAPS_LOCK
<b>Quote:</b><blockquote style="padding:5px; line-height:15px; background-color: #FAFFFF; border: 1px solid #000000; font-family: georgia; font-size: 10;">Wait... people were bitching? </blockquote>
Believe it or not, yes. We're probably going to be for another round of bitching of headstrong people in about ten minutes.
Believe it or not, yes. We're probably going to be for another round of bitching of headstrong people in about ten minutes.
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Slowerthanzero
Ugg.. I told my mom about this and she got mad at me saying she was safe cause she had a firewall. I don't think there would be a big deal about this if firewalls could protect you.. Well.. I'm just glad I use Fire Fox... x.x
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Rarre
that you for the clarification <img src="http://images.subeta.net/smilies/6398_emoticon_smile.gif" border="0" /> Though it didnt really apply to me its nice to see<img src="http://images.subeta.net/smilies/6398_emoticon_smile.gif" border="0" />
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Thankies Keithykins~ I use FF anyway, and I feel way safer with it than IE. :3
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Corgi
And if you're just going to whine about how Firefox didn't work for you last time, get Safari, or hell, even Opera or Google Chrome.
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