Animal Chance Machine: Daily Item

Giraffe Squishy Doll




We are testing a new feature of the Animal Chance Machine, with one random ltem per day at 250CSC, as if it came from a monthly collection.



The item changes at midnight, so keep checking back to see if the one you want is up for sale!
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Posted by Keith

Mackenzi

Sweet!
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Raggy

If I go to the chance machine via the cash shop, I cant see which animal is for sale, yesterday and today, but if I go via the link above I can see that its the snake. I haven't read all the posts, but theres a user lower down who's having the same problem.Win 7 chrome.
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QueenOfImladris

...;w;
I...I love you guys so much right now.
I will happily throw money at the screen paypal to get my unliving hands on some cute animals.
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Marine

Going to agree with Scorpio here. Price doesn't make me want it any more, sadly; I thought 125CSC for a random pull was too much, and 250CSC for a guaranteed pull still feels "eh" for wearables that I'm not going to use often, no matter how cute they may be.
If it was 75 for random and 150 for guaranteed, or 50/125 or something, then that'd be okay given how huge the collection is, but.. no thanks.
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Cobra

I think it's funny people are complaining about the price when you technically don't have to spend money. You can buy it from others with sP... This site isn't "money-grubbing" if you can get the same things without paying actual cash. I want the snakes. I'm gonna save up the sP for them. It's not hard... I mean I'm new here, maybe I'm blind to it, but I don't see them begging for money...
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StarShadow

I agree with Klassikal as well. Sorry but just can't afford that high a price for so many items. Will wait to see when prices go down in user shops.
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Wolf_Spirit

I agree with Klassikal. Also, it's no longer a chance machine if you can just wait and buy for 250 csc. I think the dual vend/buy option is really dumb. it should've been one or the other...and with 80 items, the chance machine should've not even been considered.
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LeCoeurNoir

i can't see todays item? is that normal?
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ChatLunatique

Wonderful!! Given that an animal companion CW is usually 600 CSC, 250 to guarantee I get the one I want is excellent in my opinion.
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Thunderbird

When people complain about the site trying to compromise:

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Maple

Waahh, I prefer this. This way if I actually really want one, I'll just have to check back every day instead of spending $$$ something with no guarantees of getting it.
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Klassikal

125 csc was ridiculous for a chance machine with 80 different items. Doubling it to guarantee a specific one is not a better deal.

For the people who want the itemvthen kudos to you. I tried a few and there aren't any that blow muy mind so I will pass. NBD.

I do hope the staff reconsiders the price for future machines
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Speiro

Quote by wolf_spirit:
If the price was initially set at 250 CSC for a direct purchase and no chance machine, no issue. But doubling the price of something after the initial price has been set doesn't make sense. Especially when dealing with real money.
But the price for vending hasn't changed. If 250 is too high for you, just keep vending.
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Sopheroo

"I would use it if it was absurdly low amount of CSC here"

A business transaction must satisfy both parties, not just the buyer. A buyer has the option to not buy, if the price is too high, and a seller has the option to not sell if they feel the price is too low.

If the chance machine is not 25/50/75 CSC, it's because they felt it was too low.

If the items are too high at 125/250 CSC, you have the freedom to not buy.
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Design

I personally like this idea. The giraffe was one of the ones I really wanted so this was most convenient.
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Iridescent

Great idea! thank you staff :) you bet i'll buy the one or two i want when they come up :)
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pandemonium

Ah perfect solution!
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GoldenCoyote

Dear whiners:

How many of you were complaining on the other post, saying that you would "happily pay a little more" for a DEFINITE opportunity to get the animal(s) you WANTED, instead of wasting tons of CSC playing a chance machine over and over and over again?

YOU GOT WHAT YOU WANTED. 250 CSC ISN'T that bloody terrible, especially if you're only looking to get a few beasties, instead of 20+ or more.

So. SIT DOWN AND BE QUIET.

Jesus.
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Porsef

lol at people complaining about the price.

it's a bit less than double the price of the gacha itself but you get the animal you want without having to cross your fingers and pray you get the one you want.
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Hellbent

Read news post, said "oh cool, that's a great idea!"
Read comments on news post, slowly backed away from news post.
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kimcl91

I think it is pretty cool that this feature is making it to were people have a more of a chance to get the animal they really want instead of just hoping to get one they want at random. 250 is expensive but then again for me anyways all csc is expensive xDDD.

Im also gunna say that the tube for the Chance Machine is super cute, nothing like watching a cute round plush form of your animal pick coming out of a snake xD
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Battle

I just wanted to say that this is extremely fair, your still given the option of random chancing for 125c, which is normal.
And on top of that giving definite chances for 250c.
You can still profit by random chancing good vends.
Even still you have to log on and check for the item you want daily, which is a chance all in it's own, with all those animals.

The PITY train has just derailed at the corner of SUCK IT UP and MOVE ON guys.
Ya'll should be so lucky as to have staff actually give a damn enough about you guys to add this option.
There's 80 total options. Ain't nobody got time for that.
That's only like a week of questing and vends.
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lurk

My two cents: I am grateful to the staff for creating a 'definite' option when they didn't need to, and I do think the price of 250 is fair in this circumstance.

Now, if all 80 had been released as items in the cash shop just as is, then yes, I would be unhappy with the 250, but okay with the 125. However, with the fact that this was meant to be random all along, adding an 'out' for users at double price seems completely fair.
1

Christopher

Meanwhile, in this thread...
White Chess Knight
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elf

This is great! I respect you guys for hearing the users out and coming up with this solution. There's SO MANY of these little guys that the chances are pretty rough if you want one specific item. But I like that the chance option is still there for the gamblers among us.
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tea_819

I think this is fair. I'd rather be patient and get something that I want for a set price than gamble away my CSC.
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Hetty

Are you sure you want to buy the Giraffe Squishy Doll for 250CSC? YEP! I'm sure, lol. It is so gorgeous, whoever created it - my thanks :)
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clatskani

Seriously
The majority of you complain about everything.
They are trying the best to make it possible for you to get the animal that you want.
You don't want to waste money on the chance machine here you go.
Also the trade center is a beautiful place people get one you don't want.go see if someone else does find the animal you want and trade up for it there are ways to get what you want without blowing money the artist and team members do a lot for us let's try to appreciate that and not act like spoiled brats.
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Cerex

For what it's worth, I like this update, thanks.
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Hetty

ooh is it the large giraffe today?? Tempted, very tempted! Have to buy my CSC with sP, or buy the item from other users and at the moment 250 CSC is cheaper than the shop price of the giraffe. But do I need it? Really, really need it? eep, decisions, decisions ...
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Die_232

So, let me see if I understand. People complain because boohoo the chance machine cost too much. The animal you get is random and no doubt people have spent well over 1k csc trying for the one they want. Now, instead of spending a shit load on a chance you have the option to buy it for 250 on the day the animal you want is released. In a way it is still a chance because you have no idea what animal is coming out, like a cute little surprise. And it costs 250 csc now. 250 vs an Untold amount on a chance. What is the problem here?

Pull up your big girl and boy panties people. This is just like the hustler that comes out with a random item, usually daily depending on how it sells. You also still have the option to use the machine as well for those that like the thrill. I can tell you what the problem is though. You all expect shit for free or so greatly discounted it would be more of a loss to create and sell. The artsist cost money, putting it on the site takes time and money, new coding- you guessed it, time and money. No one is forcing you to buy anything and considering you can buy CSC with sP you don't have to even spend your precious real life money. Just time and lots of it. Hell if you vend right and sell in your shop you can get anywhere from 2-5m a day.

Git 'er done.
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menmeryiset

I think this is a great idea :) Although I do hope all the animals don't just get one run, as in they will come around several times in case we missed them the first time around. If I brought all the animals I still need (72) in cash credits at 250 CSC it would cost me around £120, which is pretty steep if you think about it. If the animals get more than one run, people could space that money out over a few months.
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Evanesce

You know what I don't care about? 'Fairness'. If you don't like your chances, don't use a chance machine. This is MORE THAN FAIR, and honestly the continued complaining kind of upsets me. For some of these animals I would pay 500 CSC. In fact, with Custom Wearables that are quite similar I've paid more and SO HAVE A TON OF OTHER PEOPLE. And yet you still complain. I really feel you're only complaining because they've acquiesced to you before and you think you can bully your way to cheaper prices. I'm almost always super positive and happy about changes, and supportive of the site. But as one person already said, ya'll get on my nerves. I refuse to believe every Cash Shop item needs to function exactly the same as the others, and I refuse to support removing Chance Machines. I will absolutely be pissed if they get removed. Subeta isn't your parent and does not have to be 'fair'. They have provided wonderful customer service and have already changed this feature in response to your complaints. They need to make money. These aren't normal items that you might miss out on and want rereleased. These are Cash Shop items and should only be discounted for sales.

Tl/dr: I do NOT want Chance items to be moved to the regular Cash Shop and the complaining is dumb. This is more than enough. We don't need cheaper items.
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HYPEBEAST

People complain about complaining.
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FLUX

subeta and it's shameless money grubbing shall never cease to astonish
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five_507

pffffrt, now we get a possibility to obtain a certain item for a steeper price - pretty much like the cs hustler - and people are still complaining. wtf.
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Naelyth

The giraffe one was the only one I wanted! Yay, thank you so much Subeta! 8D It's so cute ahh <3 <3
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Heavy

Reading these comments is, hilarious. No wonder the staff have such a hard time making the perfect site feature/event. They get so many people complaining every step of the way.
Thank you for letting us have a solid chance at obtaining the animals we want. It will for sure save myself (and others) a lot of money and sp. P: ((But let's hold off on the bears and panda releases for now~))
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Evy

I have no problem with the 250 CSC price tag, I like the fact that there's a no-gamble option. I'll patiently wait till the Replica Queen Alexandra Butterfly appears, since that's the only item I want. :)
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PoodlePuff

Could it be clearer that clicking "buy" does not automatically buy the animal. I wanted to see which one was available but was nervous to click the link on the chance page in case I bought an animal I didn't want.

I like the choice to get a certain animal though.
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Nimbus

Subeta: where people will complain even when you give them exactly what they ask for. Anyway, I think this is a great way to help out users who can't afford to take a chance with the machine. Thank you for giving everyone users a different option!
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Buttercream

I like the compromise. I think perhaps I will watch for one of the bugs.
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Julie

Okay, I might get ones that I like at $2.50 a pop, but it really should be cheaper.
I still don't see me getting these, or at least all 80. At Black Friday, they should be half price.
They should of come out in the cash shop at $1.25 a pop. That would of been the best for you and your members.
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Lantern

Meh, I like the chance machine better
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Alcremie

Yeah, I'm with Shae on that these should probably still just be regular CS items, but oh well. At least it's a compromise, and I appreciate you listening to the feedback of the users. :)
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Shae

I appreciate the compromise, but agree that it seems to make the chance machine rather useless as most people will just wait for their most wanted animals to show up as the daily item instead of chancing it. Sure, there will be people who aren't patient enough to wait or who enjoy the gamble of the machine, but how big is that percentage of the userbase compared to the "sit back and wait" crowd? Is it a big enough percentage to validate keeping the chance machine instead of just throwing all of these into the CS at 250 a piece available all the time? And what about the less popular animals that are being sold for 5mil sP? When they are the daily item, nobody with any sense is going to buy them for 250csc which means that is an entire day of zero profit for Subeta on that particular item. But you can't have every day be the more popular animals either because that would eventually erode their value as well since people will still be vending and getting copies of those popular animals too.

It just really seems like a money losing compromise for the site. imo they'd be better off and would make more money in the long run by either just dropping the vend price and removing the daily item or simply putting them all in the Cash Shop as regular items. Shrug. I genuinely do appreciate how staff listens to the users and tries to adjust to feedback...I just think this wasn't the best change that could've been made to address that feedback.
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Galaxia

Although at least the random option is still there, so eh. No hate on it here.
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Galaxia

I like the idea of a set item, but I am not sold on the price increase. There's already a ton of other things to keep up with, also 250 CSC, that at least have multiple uses or options. This is 250 just for a wearable, which puts it at more than the wardrobe items already in the Cash Shop.
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Hylian

I think I would probably use this machine if it was at 40csc. Price is too steep for a random chance, and price is too steep to just buy it outright.
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Hamlet

What's the point in keeping the chance machine?
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Wolf_Spirit

Heh...maybe there could be a separate tab in the CS called Subeta Zoo and all the animals could be put there
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Wolf_Spirit

All I can see happening now is people just waiting for the day that their animal shows up and not even vending at the machine anymore. What's the point of trying a chance machine if you just need to wait for the day the animal you want shows up, right?

This daily purchase could potentially cut vending down so much that there won't be much of any profit coming from the machine because people are just going to wait until their animals show up.

Honestly, just get rid of the chance machine, put the animals in the CS for 250 a piece and there you go. No whining, no complaining, no profit losses, everyone gets the animals of their choice and everyone's happy.
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Gandalf

For somebody like me who is adverse to chance machines, this is a fantastic option. Thank you!
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Wolf_Spirit

What you aren't understanding Spiff is that if it was set initially, there wouldn't be any issues. But now that everyone has already spent a ton of CSC trying to get certainties from the machine, it's rubbing people the wrong way. We all know very well Subeta is a business. However, businesses still make mistakes and sometimes a bit of a loss needs to be taken before they can make profit again. Doubling the price for one certain animal would be better off getting rid of the chance machine altogether and put them in the CS.

If they take a bit of a loss now, they'll be able to make it all back and more if they just change prices a bit. However if it stays this way there could be a chance that this machine loses money as the price is higher than the original.

I really don't know what the point of a chance machine is if they're letting you buy a guaranteed one daily anyway. It coming to that should just have them winding up in the CSC
It's not about whining. It's not about getting a certain way. It's solely looking at things from a monetary point of view. It really is better to take a small loss then profit than taking a potential bigger one due to the doubling of price after so many people already spending a ton on this machine.
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egg

Quote:
So why then would anyone buy it for 250?
LIKE I SAID IN MY EARLIER COMMENT--
There are some that are more sought often.
Higher demand = higher price
Or people aren't gonna sell/trade them, period.

This is getting that shit into circulation or giving the people a chance to buy them straight up
(OH HI HELLO BIG LARGE CATS THAT EVERYONE SEEMS TO WANT)

Like, if you guys don't want to spend the CSC, then don't?
I haven't used the chance machine YET and already got a few of the dolls I've wanted.
Literally stop bitching.
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Sovereign

i wasn't too big on this machine myself as the 125csc for a random gamble per draw and 80 items to go through was a little steep for a chance machine, disregarding the fact I don't have csc to burn anyway, but now this is introduced and I am just utterly confused, why would you offer this if it was supposed to be a gamble, and if while trying to have that gamble and then offer a random one daily for purchase but double? I. What?

Wouldn't it make more sense to either lower the cost in the chance machine due to there being 80 items in it and you having a lot of users clicking that multiple times to get what they wanted and selling/trading what they didn't or had duplicates of, and keep it chance, or just toss all of these in the cash shop for 250CSC each??
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Delphi

Since there are so many of these in circulation chances are that the daily animal (whatever it may be from day to day) is in trades being sold for 125 CSC, probably even multiples. So why then would anyone buy it for 250? Just saying. I don't really care about these things but when it comes to chance machines, blind bags/boxes, or mystery whatevers; the only reason to make them at all is to get more money than you could have if you didn't make them chance. That's how it is in real life, that's how it is here. Some people like the mystery and that it's left up to chance, but for most people it just pisses them off.
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Romaki

Thanks for the change! :)
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Dracona

I like the idea :D thanks
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spiff

And I know my last post is full of grammatical errors. IDGAF, ya'll get on my nerves.
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spiff

Wow, I see nothing has changed in terms of bitching from the userbase. They didn't have to succumb to your demands/suggestions. It was initially a CHANCE MACHINE - pay 125, get a random animal. Now you can get a secured item for 250.. I'm not seeing how this is a bad deal?!

The chance machine is just like a gumball machine: you see all the really cool prizes, you put your quarter in, and you get a random item. It could be the item you reallly really want, but chances are it's a piece of crap that you don't. You put another quarter in hoping to get the item you want - another crap item. It's times like these you wish someone would come up to you and say HEY I HAVE THAT ITEM YOU WANT, AND I'LL SEE IT TO YOU FOR DOUBLE THE PRICE. You want that item really bad, so you're willing to pay that price for it! Yay, now you have your item.

Everyone needs to chill out and realize that Subeta is a BUSINESS. They need to make MONEY in order for you to even have the opportunity to buy these items in the first place. Either pay for it, or don't. You're relentless bitching about how much something costs not only brings negativity to the site, but I'm sure it discourages staff from doing anything similar in the future because they're going to have to deal with incessant bitching from certain people. And you're all going to whine until you get your way.
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Tango

Thank you for this! Now I will have the chance to get the ones I want directly!
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Sopheroo

Charging less than 250 CSC is unfair to us who spent lots of CSC on the machine when it was 100% a gamble.

Donation presents are 250 CSC. The Cash Shop Hustler is 250 CSC per item. You'll survive.
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Sabina

While I'm going to wait for prices to drop in user shops, I do appreciate you giving us the opportunity to buy the actual items we went rather than leaving it up to chance. I'd rather spend 250 CSC on one item I actually want than spend 125 CSC multiple times just to get the ones I want.
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Austria

*taps lips* Do I want to blow 250 csc on a giraffe that I want but will probably never even use? The struggle is real. This is what you guys get for having such good artists. (seriously, props to whoever drew the giraffe) I like this idea, but I think the price is too high.
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Tucker

Too late. I've already just went and bought the one I wanted from usershops. I don't need/want any others.
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Seerow

Can't say I see the point in this, especially at that price. Because it is a chance machine everything is going into circulation. It is not hard to go to trades or forums and find the specific animal you are looking for. You can either trade the one you got and didn't want or likely just pay the 125csc. 250csc is way too much for this, especially this late in the game. If it was perhaps pay 250csc for whatever animal you want or 125csc for random I guess that could maybe work. But too late for that now.
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Wolf_Spirit

It just dawned on me that it said

Quote by keith:
as if it came from a monthly collection.
I don't mind paying 250 for a collection item as the items are only around for a month. If this was true for the items in this machine, then I would be more willing to pay the price of 250 CSC for the daily "featured" animal. Seeing as I hardly think these particular animals will be around for only a month as there are far more animals than there are days in a month, the price of 250 CSC for a specific animal isn't fair. More and more will be coming into circulation causing the price of a lot of animals to drop...soon a lot lower than the 250 for the "featured" animal.

An animal comes up, people buy it to try and make profit. People get them in vending. It doesn't take much to see the price drop.

The animals are gorgeous, no doubt about that. 125-175 CSC would've been a fair full price for an animal, lower for a chance at a random one. But paying as much for a daily "featured" animal as you would for a special collection item when the animals will be much more plentiful given the amount of people who are online and vending just doesn't make sense.

The chance to buy a definite one daily is excellent, but the prices from the beginning should've been reevaluated.

I can understand the cost to pay the artists for their hard work, I know it's expensive. If it was lower to begin with, the amazing artists would have their pay a lot sooner and the site would be able to make money on the machine through a lower rate after the artists got paid through many more willing to vend than making the price so high from the get go and people not wanting to spend as many CSCs.

Like Karan said - 125 has already been established. Making the price higher for a secured animal now isn't fair.

It's making me think back to the Masq plot. Initially if you got the full amount of plot points you would've been able to just buy the main weapon and nothing more. However, a mistake was made and you were able to buy all the items including the main weapon with the points. Staff didn't want to change things after realising the mistake as they knew people would be upset.

The price had already been established at that time. It stayed that way instead of making things different due to human error.

The same situation is happening here. If the price was initially set at 250 CSC for a direct purchase and no chance machine, no issue. But doubling the price of something after the initial price has been set doesn't make sense. Especially when dealing with real money.

I think the price of the vends should drop and make the Daily Animal 125 CSC as it's already been the established price.
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BoaConstrictor

lol, so why is it still a chance machine? Put them all in the Cash shop for that price...

Also, NOW? we already HAVE spent more to try our luck, we'd really want to trade the unwanted ones against the sought after, rather than spend even more CSC.

Of course with chance machines, like with the donation presents, those items go into circulation, which normal Cash Shop items do no longer.
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HYPEBEAST

Bitch bitch bitch
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Alison

Totally like this idea, but holyshit 250? Too much for me. But I am glad you guys are trying to work with us on this one. :)
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egg

The way I see this is:
1) Trade for the ones you want. I'm sure there is someone out there who wants the doll you got that you aren't interested in.
2) Buy them from user shops. I've already seen quite a few that are well under the sP equiv of 125CSC (I bought a few for 5mil. That is a deal).
3) If it's a highly sought after doll (like the large cats) you're going to have to pay more. That's just how it goes. So either pay more to the user who was lucky enough to get it or pay more straight to the site.

Stop bitching already. This is JUST like hair coupons.
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StarShadow

So people were complaining that the price of 125 was too high and it should be 50 or 75 and now to get a specific one it costs double. Sorry but there are too many I want to pay that much for them. I'll just wait until the prices come down in user shops.
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Darkrai

I do wish they were just slapped in the CS but thank you for this option c:
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VOLTAGE

I think this is a fair deal. 250csc for secured odds or to get something that you really want but didn't want to risk the chance machine for. Monthly collections are that price, as are hair coupons and hustler items. Some of the more sought after animals (like tigers and leopards) would be even more expensive if we didn't have a chance of getting them for 250csc (judging by chance boxes in the past)
Honestly no point in putting them in the CS now as there are plenty already in circulation, but it's just something to keep in mind for next time :)
I appreciate the staff listening to our concerns about the chance machine and trying to find a compromise.
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Wolf_Spirit

Like the others said - should've just put them in the CS like you did the Vanity and hair coupons to alleviate the chance behind it.
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Wolf_Spirit

I don't know...I think chance machines should be left to the old chance bags and not have new ines come up. Honestly, the Luminaire Chance Machine hasn't even been added to the list yet and it's an active machine.

I don't think that I'll be spending any more CSC on this machine. The odds are just not good. It's disappointing.
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Marnie

Some people keep complaining whatever you do. Hope this will not stop motivating you guys for doing more great stuff like this!
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Lina

I am not into these animal thing but I think that the price is fair...I looked at that page and now all you have to do is click and you have your favorite animal. Just like the hair coupons...they actually should make a machine for that! I would buy lots of hair coupons with a machine like that *___*
1

Akita

this is good
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gothic

Thanks for trying to appease the part of the userbase who wasn't happy about the whole chance-item-for-125-CSC thing. I was (and still am) a part of that. It's nice to have the option to buy at a set price an animal that I might actually want, as opposed to chance it. But I'm still not sure I'm into the price. I wish they'd just been put into the CS at 125 CSC to begin with and I guess I'm going to keep wishing that. Again, though - thank you for trying!
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wordless

Bah just put them in the cash shop..
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Senti

If they were in the cash shop then I could buy them as I can afford them (hint hint)
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Permanent

Double the price for secured odds. It really benefits those who are after the whole set because at chance they would probably spend more than double to get one of everything. Those who complain can either just gamble their csc, or purchase the items with sp. Consider the 250csc a buyout for either lazy people or people who only want a few or all of them but don't want to pay more than they absolutely have to.
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Senti

I think it would be a better idea to put ALL of them in the cash shop for around 125 CSC each. That's just my opinion though
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Marnie

Please Model Albino Burmese tomorrow =3
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Karen

250 CSC would have been the place to start for a choice of which animal you wanted. Now there's enough of them in circulation and the 125 CSC has been established so most players aren't going to be overly excited about this.
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Kushiel

While I think the idea is great, I think the price is a bit high :x
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xkittyfanx

This stinks cause I don't have any CSC :c
Plus, there's like 13 animals I want!
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Sirensong

Ouch - that price is more than I'd be willing to pay.
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Wolf_Spirit

Honestly that price is quite steep. I think it should be no more than 175...
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bapkate

I approve! I only wanted one of the items, but I was reluctant to throw the amount of CSC at the machine that would be necessary to get it.
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Stakely

I'm glad I'm not a huge fan of these in the first place :P
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Senti

@Hamda Thanks for that info :)
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Hamda

@Senti

you can still try for a random chance at 125 csc
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Thomas

I think this is a good step forward. :) Not sure I like how the page is formatted though - looks a bit confused.
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Scorpio

Nah, doesn't make me want it any more than I already did. Price is not worth it, honesty.
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Hamda

I like it!

the fact that it was random was discouraging so the best of both worlds. Thank Keith!
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Senti

250 csc is a lot :(
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