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Posted by Keith

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Ok, this is <b>brilliant</b> Rah. You've really given this one your all, and the result is perfect!

<b>Quote:</b><blockquote style="padding:5px; line-height:15px; background-color: #FAFFFF; border: 1px solid #000000; font-family: georgia; font-size: 10;">the white outline on the chest fur is just a bit odd.</blockquote>
That white line is once thing I'd <b>hate</b> to see go, and Rah has done wonderfully to put it on this new one. The white line is typical to the old Canis, and it's <i>original</i>.

The paws are so cute and big, the tail is so wonderfully poofy, and I luff that little tooth! It's definately come A LONG way, and I think you should be really proud of what you've done Rah. Updating one of the site's most loved pets was never going to be easy, but you've done great <img src=/images/smilies/6398_emoticon_heart.gif border=0>
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Oooh... such fluffy and adorably big paws! :3 They remind me of how I draw paws, and I LOVE how that back leg is lifted. It makes it look like it's so happy to see you that it's walking towards you. xD Really great job, Rah! The Kanis has DEFINETELY come a long way from this... :O <img src="http://subeta.org/images/canis.gif" border="0">

But I don't know if I should find this slightly odd or not, but I actually liked the second-to-last revamp that was attempted. It just appealed to me more, and it REALLY reminded me of MysticCookie's style and the Angelic Kanis. Comparing the two, I wish the first revamp went through.
<img src="http://subeta.org/images/kanis.gif" border="0"> <img src="http://subeta.org/pets/kanis2.gif" border="0">
The first one's kinda like "Hey! Would you like to join me for some tea 'n' cookies?" xD I think the blues in the mane of the other one made it stand out a little more too. But still, even if this one went through, it's a beatiful picture for the Kanis. n_n
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(i think the new canis will win
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Man, I just start using this website and you're already going to change the only pet I actually like? <img src=/images/smilies/smiley_sadface.gif border=0> Don't go and do that. The new one is.. off. <img src=/images/smilies/smiley_sadface.gif border=0> I completely dislike the look.

The ears look like inflated balloons, the face expression is subpar and lifeless [The old one is far better, the face is why I fell in love with that pet], the raised paw looks awkward [why is it raised? The other at least looked like it was struting, this one looks like it's frozen in place out in a blizzard and slowly dying.], and that blotch of white over the eye is extremly distracting. O_o;

If you asked me, I'd suggest trying to take a look at the old pet. Realise what gives it it's life and personality and try to perfect upon that instead of just redrawing the pet into a lifeless picture. :/ Frankly, just redraw the same exact pose as the old one and give it obvious depth and It will look 10,000 times better than this one.

And Don't touch the chibi one... <img src=/images/smilies/smiley_sadface.gif border=0> Please!! I was really considering making my Stardust-sama into a Chibi.
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i really dislike the way the ears are drawn, and the colour used for the default kanis. also, no tuft of hair on the head (or a different-looking one) would improve the image a lot, as would changing the tail and making BOTH EYES THE SAME SIZE.

seriously, what is it with people and that last thing :I
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ThatScienceTeacher

I like the body of the new one, but the face of the old one.
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Memento_Mori

I don't think I am going to vote this time, I honestly can't decide. I'll leave it up to the people who own Canis, then. ^^
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Right. I'm not going to vote this round, because I really can't decide. Not for the Common one. But I think the BR, GY, and Angelic Canises (Kanises?) should be kept, because they really have good posing and "character". But please change the Chibi. It just doesn't seem to fit with the rest of the Chibis. I can't believe I'm saying this too, but I don't like the Spectrum one either. (Or maybe I just don't like the ears-down pose.)
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I think the last one was way cuter. It had a perfect balance of cutesy cartoon and cutsy real.
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Its nice, but I realy like the old one better. I love the big paws (: I wish we could keep that bit of the canis that same, I adore it. And the shading, hm, I don't know why, but the shaidng of the new Canis kinda bothers me. But I don't have a Canis anyway, so I guess it doesn't matter much. I was kinda hoping to turn Daremi into a Reborn Canis, but there are other equally nice options avalible. While I still like the old one, the artist did a fine job with the new one.
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Becky_887

I think that it's hilarious that everyone is commenting about the tooth, and it's actually barely noticeable.

Or maybe something's wrong with my computer?

Anyways, Rah, it's awesome. <3
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WhiteDragoness

not that this one is bad, i just like the style on the old one better, either way, good job on this
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Bliss

I have a Canis, and I am absolutely in love with the new version. <3 I love everything about it, and I never noticed anything wrong that the other people are pointing out :3 I think it's fine the way it is.

I am interested to see what the re-vamp of the Chibi Canis would be ^-^

Great job Rah!
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I like the old one better, it's simply cuter and more cartoony i guess.

But i do like the exposed tooth. <3
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NekoDramon

Oh, and please understand, I meant that the lineart on some redraws was not to <i>my</i> liking, and was not trying to imply that the redraws have not been worth being done, by ANY means whatsoever. Just wanted to clear that up in case anyone thinks I'm being too harsh. Apologies if I have offended anyone. *nods*
And I just got an idea about that tooth...Rah, is it a 'rabbit' tooth or a canine tooth? honestly, I wonder if a couple of 'fangs' wouldn't really add to the pet on the whole...what do you think? (heheheheh....BUNNICULA!) <img src=/images/smilies/6398_emoticon_smile.gif border=0><br>
Anyway, if I sound ridiculous, just ignore me...not enough sleep does that. 0.o;
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NekoDramon

Oh Rah! *cries* Not the Chibi, PLEASE! 0.o; It's <i>so</i> adorable and I was going to change one of my pets to it if I could get up the sP! It has an originality to it that matches the originality of the GY Canis and I would hate to see that lost! Can you and the staff <i>please</i> reconsider that redraw? *prays* The angelic doesn't conform to any other style of Canis, and you said that one won't be changed.

Also, although I agree that lineart can be manipulated to be better than the original, I know you will be VERY careful with it, because the only pet I've seen that had it's lineart redrawn that didn't spoil it, I think, was the Chibi Kerubi. I love the GY Canis as it is and it would be sad if it changed much, even in lineart.
But I know you will do an excellent job, no matter what the circumstances. I'm keeping my fingers crossed and looking forward to what you come up with. <img src=/images/smilies/6398_emoticon_smile.gif border=0>
BTW, I don't see any 'ear lump' on the redraw...it's form simply gives the ear a silky, floppy texture that I think is essential to the charm of the Canis. I have several plush bunnies at home, and what I love the best about them is their ears, the length, the 'floppiness', the way I can fold them around my fingers when I hold them and use them to 'hide' their eyes...(my kids and I used to play peekaboo with those ears when they were little. *I know, waxing OT...sowwy!*)
I <i>do</i> think the chest fur could be even floofeh-er...if possible? I'd caution the tooth position...we don't want him to look like Bugs, do we? ^^ I think it looks fine where it is. <img src=/images/smilies/6398_emoticon_smile.gif border=0>
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Lor

Rah~<br>
If there really is a consideration of updating the GY kanis' line art (that's the fixing of the outlines, right?), I hope the dark circles around it's eyes stay the same! Because, it gives his face that evil, yet deceivingly sweet look, plus it really helps with the spooky deadness. AND it really brings out that surreal-like blue color of the eyes. ^o^ <br>
Though I don't personally see anything wrong with the outlines, if that's all that will be changed, then all this terrible gut-clenching worry will finally cease XD
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Yes.
This one is much better.
I love the tooth! ^^
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Glitter

It's an awesome drawing.

But I hate it.

NOT BECAUSE OF THE ART. The art is fine, it's just not my Canis

-__- If there is any way to give people a choice? I mean, like I would pay 5 bucks to keep my Canis the old design. Because I love the dorky happy look on his face.

The new design is very sweet and I love alot about it like the took and the more dynamic pose.

But I will die if Lickity looks like that because he's a dork and needs the wonderful dorky old canis pose I love so much.

Note to the artist: I think you did and excellent job
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Julie_803

<img src="http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y168/JulieIndi/ffffff.jpg">

That would be the "lump in the ear" that everyone's talking about, Rah. <img src=/images/smilies/smiley_sadface.gif border=0> It's slightly bothersome.

But yay. :3

Adakie, Akele, and I all agree that the white outline on the chest fur is just a bit odd. 0_o It looks outlined, not shaded. Perhaps if it weren't white, but maybe a really, really light shade of blue.

And I do agree that it's seemed to have lost some life. <img src=/images/smilies/smiley_sadface.gif border=0> But it's still a very nice re-vamp. I'm still a fan of the old one though .. but hey, I don't have a Canis, so. (X

( And if the image file doesn't work just copy the URL into the window << >> )
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Nouveau

Zeeba, look at this Keith quote. "This is a subeta pet. Not a rabbit, not a dog, not an elephant. To not like it because it's "not bunny-like" enough, is absurd, as it's not supposed to be bunny-like." Sums it all up.
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personally the older one is much nicer, it looks more like a rabbit
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This one is better. I really like the less-fat legs. I was compatring and saw that the ears had more shape. The whole thing has more shading. This may sound stupid, but I dont really like the tooth. Although its barley visible. I still wouldnt adopt this pet though, mainly because I have 5 already, and its not my type. Im sure new members, who havent seen the original, will snatch it up real quick! Anyway, I like it its better than the original, thats for sure!!! Keep it up! ^.^'
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I prefer the new one. I really like the body shape (-including- the rounder back leg) and the shading. The face is cuter too.
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Nuclear

Do NOT redraw the chibi canis. It looks FINE. Heck, it looks BETTER than the regular canis.
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Luckymax

Just fantastic! This is everything that the new Kanis should be. The little tooth is adorable :3 However, Im not sure that it would look right centered... I love it just the way it is.

I absolutely adore how furry you made the chest, but I just wonder if it would look better if the furry part carried on down between the Kanis front legs.

The pose is perfect. It has a beautifully cheerful disposition, with his little paw lifted up. He is just brimming with Kanis personality!

This will be such a wonderful remake. If I didn't have enough pets, with the 6 I already have, I would adopt one now, in anticipation of this remake. :3

You make the old Canis look far inferior. In comparison, it is plain to see how outdated and flat the old one is. Wonderful. It really is. You have done the Kanis proud xD
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TracyH

I think it is adorable.
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i like the oldone better. I personally feel that the ears are too floppy and the hind leg is kinda fat =/
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Dhevix

Meh, it's ok, but it's lost that carefree spirit! It's just not the same...

Pah, but that art it VERY nice, just not realy right for the kanis!
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Rah

Ok. There are a LOT of very conflicting crits here xD So i'm going to pick out the ones that seem to stand out the most.

<p>a) I'm keeping the tooth - I can't move on that now, but a few people are saying it looks like one tooth? Or that it's too far to one side? I'll try and fix that to make it look more central <img src=/images/smilies/6398_emoticon_smile.gif border=0>

<br>b)The lump in the ear - I'm actually not totally sure what you're talking about, but I'll try and fix what I think this is :p
<br>Um. Something about the chest fur. I forget what. I'll read over that again xD

<p>Hmm. I don't think GY will be revamped, as personally it's my favourite pet on the site :p and I know how popular it is. But I do hope you agree that the lineart could do with an update? As to the chibi Kanis. That WILL be redrawn. Currently, it does not match this one at all. I hope you'll like the new one <img src=/images/smilies/6398_emoticon_smile.gif border=0>

<p>Thankyou so much to everyone for your kind comments, and helpful crits. I'm sorry to those who are still not happy, I hope in time you might learn to love this critter!
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The new one looks great, and by the response in the poll everyone else seems to think so too. Much of the pet has been kept the same with only slight differences which make it look all the better.

Great job!
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NekoDramon

Rah, this one's a winner! I luff it! ^^ Those adorable tootsies, that huggable tummy! I just want to squeeze the stuffing out of it! <img src=/images/smilies/6398_emoticon_heart.gif border=0>

I DO like the old Canis, but this is quite nice.

THANK YOU that the Angelic will not be revamped...but how about the GY and the Chibi? Can we leave them the way they are too, PLEASE??

Can't wait to see what you do with the Spectrum!
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Voted for old. Gosh... it seems unfair to criticize when you haven't put the work that the artists do into the pets. This one is better than the last attempt at a new canis, so cheers on that... HOWEVER. It still has the look of "neither here nor there" to me. For one thing, the front legs should be longer, and the front feet larger. I think also that the chest needs to slope upward as it reaches the hindquarters, such as the Telenine's does. Just better proportions.
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I think it's a great try, and I love the expression in it's eyes and the more 3-D improvement - buuuut he's a bit dispoportioned and that bugs me a little. His ears are fantastic and his head is a bit small, and his front paw looks like if he put it down it would he shorter than the rest. Lovely in many ways, though. That tail is just too cute..
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Kabuto

Once again, absolutely beautifull Rah, and a great job with the anatomy <3
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I know that the artists put a lot of work into these revamps, but I do not like this at all. The shading looks really...I believe someone called it plasticy? That works. The old Canis looks really ALIVE and happy and this one basically just lost that. It looks like it got sent to the taxidermist.
I'm gonna go with the "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" here, because I don't think the Canis needs much improvement. However, there are a few other pets in need of serious makeovers.
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misskass

... I wish there was an Edit button for comments. GREAT BIG BLOCK OF TEXT YAY.
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misskass

"I feel bad for not liking this... I know Rah has tried so hard and really does fantastic work, but I just can't get into any of the new Canis looks I've seen so far. >.< Guess I'm just part of the "If it ain't broke don't fix it" crowd... the Canis looks perfect as it is to me, and there are several other pets in greater need of revamps. I think it's also the uneven plastic-y shading and the poker-straight front legs that bother me... and something else I can't quite pinpoint... Anyway, yeah, had to vote old again. Sorry. :"

Everything here voices my thoughts exactly. I know the artists try hard to redraw the pets, and usually I'm in favour of newer ones, but this new Canis doesn't really sit well with me. I suppose I'm just a bigger fan of the older one. >.>
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AniVasion

I think that may be true with some voters, Kurotsuki, but the last redraw did not win. And other revamps have failed too, so it's not sheer 'shiny and new' that will win.
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Garyx

Seems to me that the older canis was more of a cartoon, and this one just seems to have lost some life. Kind of like a dog that's grown up a bit. *shrug*

Don't know how I'll vote on this one yet.
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This is a bit of a whine... but, the polls aren't exactly... fair. Some people only vote for the redraws because they're new and shiny or cute.

But yeah, that's just what I think of it.
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Kululu

It's very well done. I just wish there was a rabbit pet that didn't look so cutsey. A pet that looked like a hare is what I've been hoping for to be exact.
For a cute cartoon-like bunny, it's perfect.
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~The Eyes!! Sorry, I just like how they look all cute and sparkly. It's a definite yes 4 me!!!!!!~
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angelembryo

I feel bad for not liking this... I know Rah has tried so hard and really does fantastic work, but I just can't get into any of the new Canis looks I've seen so far. >.< Guess I'm just part of the "If it ain't broke don't fix it" crowd... the Canis looks perfect as it is to me, and there are several other pets in greater need of revamps. I think it's also the uneven plastic-y shading and the poker-straight front legs that bother me... and something else I can't quite pinpoint... Anyway, yeah, had to vote old again. Sorry. :
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This is sooo cute! -dies-
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yeah i can undersytand the complaint it looks like its made of rubber and not critter, but between the two, i like this one much more! it captures the canis fromt he older pic, but adds more detail and its own unique spunk >.<
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Hmmm. I unno. It looks kinda ... plasticy(?)
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Melissa

I love the new Canis! It really does look more like a bunny, and I adore bunnies.

And in response to another comment, the nose doesn't look at all like a real rabbit's nose -- I have three of them. Their noses are little slits on either side shaped into a wide "V". The width and height of the V depends on the size of the rabbit's head and shape of its face, some being more angular and some being more like a very wide U than a V. XD
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Tr0uble

I don't like the tooth either.
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guys i think a good idea to do is to compliment both the old one and the new one and try not to be bias when describing them. just becausse this one is fresh does not mean its better. i think the point of this is to make subeta's pets more appealing and likeable by more members. If it already is good and satisfying why change? Some people think the grass is greener somewhere else. i think why fix it if its not broken?
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Awwww!!!!! *hugs Kanis*
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Historiography

Personally I was never a fan of the canis in the first place, but I do like the revamp. It seems to suit how I would of pictured the canis more and I like the cute innocent look it has.

I do have to agree that the fur should be a bit fluffier though and flow more into the body. The fur on its chest for instance almost looks as if it was pasted on. Overall if that little part was fixed I'd be all for the new canis. I like the floofiness of it XD
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I sorta like the old one. But the new one is more Subeta style. Anyways, I like them both! Great job, Rah!
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Wow, this is a big change from the "original" with many subtle changes. I love the more delineated feet and legs...but the "animal" as a whole appears more like a plushie than an original pet to me. I will be voting for the "newer" version, since overall I think it is a vast improvement, but I'm not sure it could be as "life-like" as it could be. I'm not looking for "real world" animal, but some level of anatomy, or realism needs to be maintained. Over all...a great next stage for the Canis!
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Silvy

I really like it, but i think it looks a bit chubby, and the legs seem a bit short, compared to the 'old' kanis. Good job though! *thumbs up*
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Fruity_280

I like it, though I think it's on the heavy side... (weight) Maybe it's back foot is too big? I don't know... Well, so long as you don't change the spectrum one! <img src=/images/smilies/6398_emoticon_smile.gif border=0>
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This one ius great and absolutely adorable, but it's just not a recontruction of the old Canis, which is what I would prefer. The old canis looked very happy and out-going while this one looks very cute, innocent, and playful. It's a very good drawing of a rabbit-type pet, but not the canis.
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Oh, might I also add that the proportion of the legs and the size of the feet are perfect. I have to agree with some other people and say I would've liked to have seen the new canis be more aerodynamic and athletic like the old one, though.
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First let me say that the new canis is extraordinarily done. I do however have some crits:
I do not care for how narrow and tall the head is..It clashes with the rather sturdy body and the outwardly flowing ears. The paws are perfect, they capture the soft roundness the old Canis is lacking in yet their quite Canis-esque.//
I love the angle of the tail, and it's softly done besides..I don't care for the setting of the eyes, they seem to be set with the bottoms deeper in the skull than the top; it creates a sunken look that just isn't appealing. I like how the fur on it's chest was done, but the transition from blue chest fur to white underbelly shouldn't be outlined with black..I think it should blend fluffily so it doesn't look so bib like.
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Rainbow_Muffin

Ah, okay Rah. I get it now. :3

I'm so going to vote new now looking at it correctly. <3
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i think this ones cool but the pose is kind of boreing.
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I still like the older one, the new one is great and all but the old one jsut fits the canis more for some reason.
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The eyes!!!!
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The eyes!!!!
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Honestly, it seems the old one has sort of a rustick charm X3 theres something about it that just seems to stick. This new one is great, really, but not to be used. In my opinion, maybe the old one should be... touched up, or perhaps gotten new shading/ lining?
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I love this new one. I liked the first revamp too.
Good job, Rah.
The only problem I have with it is its teeth showing like that. That bugs even on my real bunnies though. XD
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now thats a canis!i looove it.im voting new ^^
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this looks really cute, its near chibi though - good or bad i guess is personal preferance on chibi - and the color changes look like they arent on the animal itsef, like the ends of the ears - they kinda look like theyre there to keep the ends of the ears warm XD i really do love the eyes though, theyre so shiny and healthy and happy looking! <img src=/images/smilies/6398_emoticon_heart.gif border=0>
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minno150

I think it could use a fluffier chest and yet less of a chest. I know that makes no sense... the fluffy part should be fluffier and the area that isn't so fluffy and is mostly hidden by its forelegs should be up a bit more. In my opinion anyway. It can have a fat tummy all it likes but not a fat chest. <img src=/images/smilies/6398_emoticon_happy.gif border=0>
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minno150

Oh! My favorite part is definatly the hindlegs. XD Kudos on the hindlegs.
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i dont like this one. at all. and yet again people are being biased and picking the new one. i dont like this one because its two round. it looks much more typical. the other one had more personality. that colouring and shapes created really puts an air of annonymousity to it.
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minno150

I like the body, but I personally think the head could be better. Maybe a bit more happy looking than "That Kumos looks like it wants to eat me..."

And why such a dent on the ears? The curved in lines imply that there's a huge curved in dent in the ears, maybe a bit straighter looking ears would be nice?
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Eeee! It's so cute!!! I think it's adorable <img src=/images/smilies/6398_emoticon_smile.gif border=0>
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A canis I like! *le gasp* I love love love this.
I'll restate what some people have said though, the tooth. I get what you were going for there, Rah, but the teeth are too small and end up looking like one tooth. So maybe add another tooth the same size as the one that's there already?
Other than that I can't see any fault with it!
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Oh, forgot to say that I love the new one. <img src=/images/smilies/6398_emoticon_smile.gif border=0> (Like the old one more but this is my favorite revamp yet. Good job!)
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<quote>"The only special colour that might probably be up for a major revamp is the Spectrum"</quote>
-looks at Ananass- Gasp! If I don't like it I can always make him graveyard anyway. <img src=/images/smilies/6398_emoticon_smile.gif border=0> That's what I originally wanted to do.
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It's the expression and paws that gets me. The expression here is a girly smile, but the old Canis's expression shows a smile that could be for both genders. The paws were also alot cuter, less in detail, but alot cuter. I voted for the Old because I think it will be more popular for the male users on the site. I think it needs more work. The eyes are good though.
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Better than all the previous versions, but it's still just.. Not right.
It doesn't /feel/ like a Canis. It just doesn't. It's face looks like, "Ehehe.." Instead of "Yaaay! =DDD"
You know? ):

And the hair and fur are still so stiff looking. It looks like it has hard, clumpy fur. It should be smoothened. Try to add some realisim to it, because Hair and Fur is a pretty major part, as far as I'm concerned. x3

The fur on the neck is pretty good, but the tail and head still bother me. :B
The feet are a lot better than the other versions. And the ears. But, the ears don't quite have that floppy look. Although that's really hard to make it look floppy, so that's no big deal.

But, Rah, you've really improved! O:
<3
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Lor

The expression is very good. I just love how happy the Canis looks. ///
However, I must say the body and facial structure is too round. I'm sorry to say, the canis look like it gained weight. Real rabbits have an excuse for looking that way, due to their anatomy and how they live, but this is not a real rabbit. I suppose, if you took a teeny tiny itsy bitsy bit off all around, slim it down just a wee bit, it would look so much nicer! /// Now, on another note concerning the canis, I dearly and desperately hope there are no plans to change the Graveyard version. I'll say why. The expression. Simply evil yet deceivingly sweet. "I'm just a cute wittle rabbit, please come <i>closer</i>." It seems to say. And the Graveyard one is <b>skinny</b>. Because it's <b>dead</b>, it being <b> extremely thin</b> like that is <b>perfect</b> for something that is ... well....dead. So, I MUST insist, if you change this canis, and want to change some themed ones (especially the ones people work hard to get the SP for to change them the way they liked them from before), <b>please</b> consider not changing the Graveyard! I mean really mule it over, not a quick thought, and do it anyways. It would be so nice to NOT see it changed.
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This is really cute, I voted for it <img src=/images/smilies/6398_emoticon_smile.gif border=0> I think it looks more realistic and less flat than the current Kanis, no offense to the artist of that one (I like that one too <img src=/images/smilies/6398_emoticon_raspberry.gif border=0>)
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Malfoi

I like the newer version; it looks more, realistic, I suppose, with its feet in proportion to the rest of the body and all of that.

I have a question though; I was going through some of the other polls, and the old and new versions are the same. Is this because they have already been changed, or is it just my computer?
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xinku

I think the old one was waay better. I liked the style of the old one. :/
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Omg This is so cute. So CUTE !
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NATALiE

This is so cute. So, so, so cute. <img src=/images/smilies/6398_emoticon_grin.gif border=0> Is the Spectrum Canis going to be revamped to look similar to this?
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I'm never good at putting what I think about art changes into words, but I have to agree with Flonne and Riyoku. They said what I want to say perfectly.

Other than that, keep up the good work Rah. <3
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Nataku

Hmmm, now this is a revamp that'll work. xD The pose is still similar and the expression sort of stayed. Pets all having the same blank star just makes the whole lot of them seem rather retarded after a while, sad really... like they all dropped out of school. Which by the way, was that idea ever going to happen on Subeta? Schools?
Meh, I'm wandering. Back to the Kanis. I don't mind the ears, big and fat seems to work well for them. Though the bump in the left ear almost makes it seem as though those dark blue ear tips are more like ears... caps, or something, that the Kanis shoves its ears into. Kind of make me think of nose guards on surfboards actually. =P
The tooth... one word about what it makes me think: Snaggletooth.
Or is that supposed to be two words? I don't think the Kanis needs a bit of a tooth showing, it looks rather odd, like some lineart not meant to be there almost. If you were going for the buck teeth impression like the GY Canis has, then sorry but I don't think it worked so hot. The stnadard Canis could probably do without the snaggletooth.
I don't know why but I want to grab it's right front paw and shake it, the way its holding it. Didn't want to do that to the old one, tis cute.
The chest fur... it looks a little... too cartoon-ish, and has gone past cartoony and now looks like fake plastic. No, not plastic, wax. I'm afraid if I tried to hug this guy half the fure on his chest would snap right off. I think it stems from the blue suddenly going to white. Perhaps it would be better if all the chest fur were blue? Or if you did keep the white, at least make the line from blue to white actually sort of match up with the black out line of the fur. Otherwise it just looks... odd.

A couple minor tweaks on this Rah, and it'll be great. Definately doing good so far. =)
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I love this new...new version hehehe ^-^ especially the ears. I'm not sure why, but excellent anyways! Good job Rah <img src=/images/smilies/6398_emoticon_grin.gif border=0>
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Quietcat

I really like the new version including the tooth. <img src=/images/smilies/6398_emoticon_smile.gif border=0>
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the new one is much better, and i think the tooth suits it.
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PEACHYz

I have to agree with Flare. n__n; Mostly on the ears. I can definitely see where the artist was going with them, but it doesn't look like they pulled it off all that well. I personally would love if the ears were more shaped like the Angelic canis's, and it seems like the artist for this revamp was trying to do that. :3
One thing I do like, though - thanks for keeping the pose generally the same! ^^ Thats awesomerific.
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Stitch

I like it personaly, though I have no idea which one I would prefer, I like both. The new version is good though.
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i lurve that tooth! dont get rid of it <img src=/images/smilies/smiley_sadface.gif border=0>
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AniVasion

I really like the pose. Even though it's not a true bunny, I too have to add that the tooth looks out of place. I think it would be improved without the little tooth at all, since it's so small it seems almost like just a dot. I understand though that is because of the angle of the head. I really like its eyes. They reflect the original Canis' personality better than the previous revamp.
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OMG RAH!!!! ITS AWSOME!!! <img src=/images/smilies/6398_emoticon_grin.gif border=0>
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I had to vote for old again. :/ Three reasons. The tooth seems just.. pasted on, and it looks a little too far to the side. The shading doesn't sit right with me, though I can't think of why. But the biggest problem I have with it is the ears. I don't know why, but I greatly dislike those ears. x__x; I dunno. I think they just look very fake, a bit TOO cartoony.

Just my opinion, I apologize if anyone takes offense to it. It seems as though this one is going to win anyway. I have a question though, will the GY canis be revamped?
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Rammstein

<img src=/images/smilies/6398_emoticon_shocked.gif border=0> its so cute and chubby.Just like my bunny. This is great well done Rah *huggles*
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I kinda like it. Yet, it looks too..."realistic". 0__o;; Although it sounds stupid, many of your characters are more cartoonish. But it still looks good.

God, I sound retarded. >___<
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Bagheera23608

Rah - Above all I appreciate hearing from the artist and what they were going for. I am NO artist so I really dont feel qualified to criticize in anyway. Thanks for telling us what you were going for.

Also thanks to Kieth for sticking up for his artists. They Subeta animals and therefore dont have to conform to any "known" standards! And Rah is right there are a few dog-type pets around already!

And to add fuel to the fire - I like the tooth!! <img src=/images/smilies/6398_emoticon_wink.gif border=0>
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Nymfetamin

I like the new version, I think it's more bunny-like <img src=/images/smilies/6398_emoticon_smile.gif border=0>
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I Like the newest version. Especially the face.
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oh please dont change the canis <img src=/images/smilies/smiley_sadface.gif border=0> i have 3 different ones and would be devesated if they got make overs they're perect the way they are.i had to change my graveyard telenine into a graveyard canis after the revamp of telenines,i'd hate to have to buy 3 miracle potion II's
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tigerlily05

Awesome job I now like this pet and I like the tooth gives it character.. great great job on it.. thanks..
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JadeTalyn

I like the newer version better, but agree about the oddness of that left ear. (Or the one on the right as you're looking at it.) I still like it though! Fantastic job!
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SurfingCharizard

It's well drawn <img src=/images/smilies/6398_emoticon_smile.gif border=0> Buuut I still prefer the old one.. What would I know anyway I like dragons and scaly things, not so much fluffies ^.=.^
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Internet

The chest fur looks a little off to me, as some other people noted. Same with the fur on the bottom of the tail. They look sort of, uh-- fake/not fluffy enough. (I like the tooth. It wouldn't be a bunny without it!? SH.)

The Kanis isin't one of my favorite pets or anything, but I really love the revamp. It's very... new looking. AHA, okay. You get it. Good job. <img src=/images/smilies/6398_emoticon_grin.gif border=0>
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Okay, I hate to say it... but I voted for the old one. It's more sleek and though slightly sillier... it was also "older looking" if that makes any sense?

The pudge on the new one keeps tricking me into thinking "chibi", but it's clearly not...

The tooth bugs me.. it looks kinda like it was just put there to be there. :/

It's MUCH more adorable than the old one, I like the eyes a lot more.

Are the leg marks actual items on the canis or are they just a marking? I thought they were a marking, but the hind legs on the new one suggest they're like leg bands(like on a horse).
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Julie_803

Wow, that's a LOT better than the other re-draw. Excellent work. I do agree with Tatsunotoshi; the bump on the left ear bothers me. And the shading does seem a bit harsh. The only thing that really I think should be worked on is the expression; on the old one, it's a bit more vivid. This one almost seems like it's faking a smile. But otherwise, good job.

And I don't think the rarer colors of the Canis need to be re-vamped. I think they all look fine the way they are, especially the Bloodred and Angelic.
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Like it. Voted. And for the record, I think the chubby look should definately stay. <img src=/images/smilies/6398_emoticon_grin.gif border=0>
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Grey_394

This is a huge improvement. I really like this one, Rah. You've got my vote. ^^
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Just a quick comment to say "well done" - it looks lovely <img src=/images/smilies/6398_emoticon_smile.gif border=0>
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I like the old canis better. It was hard to decide. What I don't like aboutt he new one is the shading. Not sure why, but it seems to eigher be to "harsh" or it's in the wrong place. Anotherdetail that bothers me is the right ear; it has a small "bump" before it reaches the blue tip of the ears. The left ear doesn't have that.

I really like the face, the feet are better and I still like the tail. I liked the older one better because of its stance mainly. I'm still not converted to a canine lover, but the revamps usally make subeta;s better tahn they already are. ^^
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I prefer the new design over the old one, the new one looks so much sleeker and life like. The shading also loks a lot better, though something does look slightly off with it, though I'm not quite sure what yet. Anyway, great job.
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Aimee

Now these are the kind of revamps I like... the pet is given an awesome update with it's lines and shading but it's nothing drastic. It's pose is still similar and what not... I think all revamps should be more like this one <img src=/images/smilies/6398_emoticon_smile.gif border=0> Great work.
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Its really cute... But a little too cute?
It just look kind of like a chibi.
But yes, so much better and I like it alot <img src=/images/smilies/6398_emoticon_grin.gif border=0>
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I love the new one! With the nice new shading it looks much more 3D, and "realistic". The bigger and "rounder" feet are nice too, it actually looks like it can stand up now, instead of having his toes all stuck together with Krazy Glue. =P Good job! Lovin' the new one!
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the new one is so much better then te old one <img src=/images/smilies/6398_emoticon_smile.gif border=0>
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Quetzal

I love the design, I think it looks fine... it's just the shading. I don't like the way his torso was shaded (I think the dark highlight should be used less frequently), but I'll live with it. <img src=/images/smilies/6398_emoticon_happy.gif border=0>
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I'm by no means an expert, but something about the ears bugs me. I think it's that they're -way- too.. Indented? Floppy? I don't know what the word I'm looking for is, but they're weird. Especially the one on the left - it looks like there would be a hole in it, or something <img src=/images/smilies/6398_emoticon_shocked.gif border=0>

But I LOVE the rest of it, especially the tooth xD
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That's a MUCH more pleasing redraw! Great job! <img src=/images/smilies/6398_emoticon_grin.gif border=0> I'm glad 'it still has the pudgy small-dog-like body, and I think the tooth gives it character. It is a lot more bunny-like - which I find neither good nor bad. The overall new look gets two thumbs up from me! The ears make it look a bit like a soft toy - It would be a good candidate for a plushie, if any more were ever made! The spectrum canis could use a revamp, Rah. <img src=/images/smilies/6398_emoticon_smile.gif border=0> I look forward to seeing it! As long as the angelic canis is untouched, I eagerly await the revamps.

And, fading: "I hate it" is not constructive criticism.
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Jacket_683

The Kanis looks fab, Rah. X3 And it looks like the vast majority thinks so as well.

Well done, darling. Well done. ♥
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Great work, you've made another pet's dream come true (although it does look a little- straight? angeled?) Love it anyway!
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I personaley thank the rare ones need revamped too the hydrus,graveyard,chibi canis etc the angelic one and bloodred are still good though. ^^
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Scraggle18

I like the new one. <img src=/images/smilies/6398_emoticon_smile.gif border=0>
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i hope the bl kanis are revamped too. ^^
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I like this revamp ^^ It's very endearing and I do like the eyes <img src=/images/smilies/6398_emoticon_grin.gif border=0>
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For some raeson.. I hate it.. I will mayby get used to it but still.. huurrr...
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SailorGundam06

I'm not quite sure what it is... but something doesn't sit right with me about it... I wish I could put my finger on it. I'll probably get used to it, but, as of right now, I don't like it. It just looks... too straight, maybe? Like it's trying to stand too tall? Or the legs are too long maybe? Something just looks weird to me.
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Criticism? Why would it need criticism? It's great! <img src=/images/smilies/6398_emoticon_grin.gif border=0> Good job with the revamp.
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PEPPER_720

Adorable, indeed very adorable, though I kinda hoped that the colour would be lighter but besides that, it owns.

But the picture on your lookup, Rah, are just simply ownsome.
-drools-

Random I know but had to say that. XD
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JESSYTA

Aww, this is what revamps are supposed to be like. SUBTLE changes to the origginal. Not drastic complete redraws. <img src=/images/smilies/6398_emoticon_raspberry.gif border=0>

I liek this. I don't own a Canis though, and probably never will... so it really doesn't effect me. But the changes made are understandable at least.

<b>Quote:</b><blockquote style="padding:5px; line-height:15px; background-color: #FAFFFF; border: 1px solid #000000; font-family: georgia; font-size: 10;">This is a subeta pet. Not a rabbit, not a dog, not an elephant. To not like it because it's "not bunny-like" enough, is absurd, as it's not supposed to be bunny-like. </blockquote>

THANK YOU. I see people saying that sort of thing all the time. It's irritating.
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Synbar

Very cute, I do like it--I confess I still like the ears better on the old one <img src=/images/smilies/6398_emoticon_wink.gif border=0>, but love the increased detail and depth on the rest of the new one.
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Awwwww, it's so cute! Thanks a bunch, Rah!

*might actually have to get one if this revamp goes through*
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JennLee

Oh, wow. This is a perfect combination of the old "character" that the Canis had, and the amazing new shading and anatomy of the Kanis. Well done, Rah!
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Rah

Oh yes, and also, the idea was not to make it all thin. I wanted it to be pudgy <img src=/images/smilies/6398_emoticon_smile.gif border=0> And the tooth was to enhance its bunny-ness <img src=/images/smilies/6398_emoticon_smile.gif border=0>
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Rah

Um, actually I was going for this:

<p><img src="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v650/fidele/chestline.gif" border="0">

As it's at a 3-quarter angle <img src=/images/smilies/6398_emoticon_smile.gif border=0>
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I agree with Rainbow Muffin and also I think that the old stuff is better because the shading looks a bit better...
Also, the eyes tend to seem just a tiny bit too small so it's not as cute and more serious looking.
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Rainbow_Muffin

I think the the Kanis is suppose to be a Pug/Rabbit? I don't know. XD

ANEEWAYS

I really like this one Rah. But like someone else said, that tooth doesn't seem to fit. OO;; It just bugs me a little.

And I was just looking at it, and noticed hte neck line wouldn't curve nicely to the chest. Ex:
<img src="http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a130/Kalbri/Kanis-RedlineThingy.jpg" border="0">

(not the best of redlines, but I tried. xD)

The redline is the way you were possibly going for and the green line is what I did. I was thinking that maybe smaller the chest and stomach. Cause they do seem a bit pudgy. I also thinned up the leg along with the chest and stomach to make it flow better.

I hoped this helped at all. I'm not the best at explaining things like this. D;
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Sunnie

I think people who vote for the old one are totally crazy, maaan (no offense, I'm joking ;P). This new one could beat up the old one and steal it's lunch money. <img src=/images/smilies/6398_emoticon_grin.gif border=0>
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Bogart

Ah, I was waiting for this. ^^ I love the new one, and I really hope it will win this poll. =3 Great work Rah. =D
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dippy

My vote goes for old, something about seeing the tooth in the new one throws me off. <img src=/images/smilies/smiley_sadface.gif border=0>
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BlackBobcat

<img src=/images/smilies/6398_emoticon_happy_sweatdrop.gif border=0> I still prefer the older one it reminds me more of a hare then a rabbit, and the new one looks more like a rabbit ): a shiny cute one but still a rabbit ): sorry my votes for old
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Mythica_115

Rah. You've totally converted me with this newer revamp version. I was all.. why are we revamping the Canis, last time.. but this time... seriously.. I love it. ♥

Those big back paws ... SO cute. XD
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Chell

wheee I'm glad you told me this Rah! *hops away singing a beautiful tune*
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It's soooo chubby!!!! XD
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SHiVA

Ooh, I can't wait for the Spectrum, Rah <img src=/images/smilies/6398_emoticon_grin.gif border=0>
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Its just personal preference but I think this one looks so shiny, almost too good to be true. So I stuck with the old one, simple yet cute, even though this looks more three-dimensional and real <img src=/images/smilies/6398_emoticon_smile.gif border=0>
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Rah

<b>Quote:</b><blockquote style="padding:5px; line-height:15px; background-color: #FAFFFF; border: 1px solid #000000; font-family: georgia; font-size: 10;">Will the other Colors be revamped too, if the new Kanis is accepted? *looks at Hydrus Canis and Angelic Canis*</blockquote>

The angelic and hydrus WILL NOT be revamped. I know how much you guys like the angelic one :p The only special colour that might probably be up for a major revamp is the Spectrum, as when I drew it I worked very closely to the original Kanis. And right now its pretty boring anyway - I think I could make it a lot more special n__n
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Serenade

I love it.
It's awesome. XD
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Cass

Whoa, I like this one a LOT more than any of the others so far. o___o Nice job, Rah! <img src=/images/smilies/6398_emoticon_heart.gif border=0>

And it isn't just a bunny...it's a dog-bunny sort of critter... so of course it doesn't look completely lapine. XD The anatomy looks nice to me, and the pose is awesome because it's similar to the old one. The bigger paws vs. the other revamps is another factor that makes me like it. ^^

Personally, I'm voting for this one. :3
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Chell

Will the other Colors be revamped too, if the new Kanis is accepted? *looks at Hydrus Canis and Angelic Canis*
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i dont like the head of the new one.

the body is much better, but his head...

he looks too 'wannabe-cute' or something, i dunno.
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I think this one is sooo precious. <img src=/images/smilies/6398_emoticon_smile.gif border=0> It's drawn better but the other one looks happier. Not sure exactly which one I prefer.
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Topdoggie7

Cute....are they ever going to make a ruffie revamp? (not that they need it)
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Well, despite what others say, I think you did a great job on the Kanis Rah 8D
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Amy_259

I agree with you, Keith, however I do see where they are coming from in that it is modeled after a rabbit if anything. I see it fine that people would want it to appear like a squishy little bunny, though I also feel it should have originality that makes it different from a real animal. :3
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Chell

The new Canis is sooo cute^^ A reason to save up for a mystical donadak plushie^^
Good Job! *thumbs up*
*looks at all the selfmade avas...i need to make myself one, too*
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Amy_259

I'm for the old one, personally. This one looks like the head shrunk a little and the body got rounder -- also, the tones in the shading seem too different from each other, and it sticks out a bit too much. I actually also like the feet on the old one better; the rounded, heavier-depth ones don't seem to suit the Canis. I also like the pose and expression on the current Canis better -- it looks happier and cuter with the larger mouth. One last thing is that the ears look to bent and.. not body-part-like. They look like stuffed fabric because of how large the bends are.

This is all obviously in my opinion. I'm definitely for the old/current one rather than the revamp, though there are some elements to this one that indeed have improved.
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Keith

This is a <b>subeta</b> pet. Not a rabbit, not a dog, not an elephant.

To not like it because it's "not bunny-like" enough, is absurd, as it's not <b>supposed</b> to be bunny-like.
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Itachi

I love the new one it's wicked cute
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Dominic

That little white tooth(?) is really bothing me. o.0; I don't know why, it just doesn't seem to fit. Other than that, well done, Rah!
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Rah

Haha, sorry Imay, stole your quote there :p Just though you had a good point on the boards, and it had to be said!
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Rah

<b>Quote By Kamikins:</b><blockquote style="padding:5px; line-height:15px; background-color: #FAFFFF; border: 1px solid #000000; font-family: georgia; font-size: 10;">Looks too.. Unbunny-like. The movement of the legs mainly. And most bunny ears aren't like that. o.o I am very picky... So a thumbs down on this possible revamp."</blockquote>

So...the fact that it's BLUE is ok, but its ears and leg movement look unbunny-like? xD I kinda know what you're trying to say, but remember I have to achieve a balance between cartoon and reality <img src=/images/smilies/6398_emoticon_smile.gif border=0>
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Dalton_381

"And most bunny ears aren't like that. o.o"<br><br>

Uh, most bunnies aren't blue, either... The Kanis isn't meant to be exactly like a rabbit.
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Jasper

"I think it was to do with the fact Canis is latin for dog..."

This is true!

Kamikins, I'm curious. Just what did you give the previous revamp? ¬_¬
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Dalton_381

Gah my post screwed up... <br><br>

"Rah, this is awesome! <img src=/images/smilies/6398_emoticon_grin.gif border=0> I loved the other two as well, but this one has gotta be a winner!<Br><br>

"Why change the C to a K in the name? Is there some copyright issues?"<br><br>

I think it was to do with the fact Canis is latin for dog... "
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Looks too.. Unbunny-like. The movement of the legs mainly. And most bunny ears aren't like that. o.o I am very picky... So a thumbs down on this possible revamp.
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Dalton_381

Rah, this is awesome! <img src=/images/smilies/6398_emoticon_grin.gif border=0> I loved the other two as well, but this one has gotta be a winner!

"Why change the C to a K in the name? Is there some copyright issues?"<br><br>

I think it was to do with the fact Canis is latin for dog...
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Jasper

I disagree Nobody. (Hehe, cute name BTW.) I think these eyes are a big improvment over the previous Canis revamp.
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Jasper

Looks similar to the old Canis, which is good. I'll admit that the new version looks more like a rabbit than it's previous remake which reminded me of a dog. This look might actually work however, I think it would look even more bunny like in a sitting position. Like the Graveyard Canis. Rabbits in general never stand this tall. They're always sort of hunched over. Unless of course this is based on a Hare... :/ In which case my statement about the position may be disregarded.

Also, I have a question... Why change the C to a K in the name? Is there some copyright issues?
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The eyes are a bit too glossy and chibi like.. otherwise, awesome. <img src=/images/smilies/6398_emoticon_smile.gif border=0>
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I think you're onto a winner this time, Rah *hug*
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Rhinne

Hmm.. I don't know what it is exactly, but I definitely like the older version better.
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not_done_baking

Awh, it's really cute!
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Kheisa

"I've actually tried to take away a lot of the dog from this Kanis."
Ahh, I see. I understand, and I like the little pink nose, bu-... Actually, I like it. xD Looking at it again, I see it has a more triangular nose than I thought. I was looking at it as an oval at first. And that was what was bugging me. xD
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Rah

"...since the (K)Canis is a dog/bunny"

I've actually tried to take away a lot of the dog from this Kanis. Being as the site has the montre, ruffie, kumos and telenine, we could do with a lot more rabbit than dog in this pet <img src=/images/smilies/6398_emoticon_smile.gif border=0> (In all fairness, though, a rabbit's nose looks nothing like this xD But most cartoon rabbits do have a small pink nose, which is what I was going for n__n )
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Nouveau

Its a pure bunny I think. No dog at all. :3
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Rah

Oh, I hope you guys like this one :p I really tried to listen to everyone, and make everyone happy. It was very hard, and took many hours. I hope so much that I got it right this time *anxious face*
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Kheisa

I think, since the (K)Canis is a dog/bunny, it should have a more dog-ish nose. But that's all I can think of. (Yeah, that's the only reason I voted for the old Canis. The face just seems... contorted, without the right kind of nose.)
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Warlocked

;o It'scute.
I don't like how small the patch of blue fur on it's chest is- I think it should be 'floofier', but that's such a minor issue it doesn't take away from the art a bit.
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Nouveau

Much improved. <img src=/images/smilies/6398_emoticon_grin.gif border=0>. I've still to decide, but this one is pretty cool.
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lull

I like this newest version. The larger feet make it look more in proportion and the shadowing & shiny eyes really make it look great. big thumbs up <img src=/images/smilies/6398_emoticon_happy.gif border=0>
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SHiVA

It's awesome <img src=/images/smilies/6398_emoticon_grin.gif border=0>
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