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The Donation page is back up.
There are a few changes - At the moment we cannot accept paypal. We are looking into a method to charge credit cards without paypal, however nothing is avaible at the moment.
That means that only mail in orders are accepted.
The september donation presents will stay avaible for a week, due to the donation page being down for so long.
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Keith
Devious
*feels for Keith* .....you can't make everyone happy...but at least your trying....so hooray!
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Devious
*feels for Keith* .....you can't make everyone happy...but at least your trying....so hooray!
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Keith
Noir - Have youf ailed to read ANY of the comments (it wouldn't be unlike you)<br />
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I've said multiple times that we are looking into alternate methods of accepting credit/debit cards (even in the news post).
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I've said multiple times that we are looking into alternate methods of accepting credit/debit cards (even in the news post).
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You could go to your local bank and have your money exchanged to USD. that might be easier for the staff and you can get a money order there too XD
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How do users from the UK convert money to US dollars via cheque/money order? Can we send in cheques in sterling?
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Jasper
Keith, considering that many can not send you checks or money orders, why don't you try finding a bandaid fix for the mean time and find some other method of getting electronic donations? Have you looked in to any of the suggestions made?
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SailorGundam06
PayPal let you use your bank account, too. It's probably the same idea... just a different company.
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That 'Roo' thing looks uncannily like an item my friend <label title="<center><img src=http://subeta.org/images/icons/gold.gif><b><strike>TAKAatTheDisco</strike></b><br>Frozen<br><b>Name</b>: <img src=/items/tombstone.gif> ♥️<br><b>Posts</b>: 291<br>" tooltitle="User Information" class="tip"><a href="/userinfo.php?user=139198"><img src="/images/icons/gold.gif" border="0"><strike>TAKAatTheDisco</strike></a></font></label> drew (a while ago) for Polairia. <img src=/images/smilies/6398_emoticon_whatthe.gif border=0>;; Don't tell me this site rips items.
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Paybycash is a good alternative to paypal. It allows you to interac your payment through your bank card.
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Dalton_381
Oh man... stupid paypal. Paypal is only way I can order anything. <img src=/images/smilies/smiley_sadface.gif border=0> Even if there's another way... My parents wouldn't let me. <img src=/images/smilies/smiley_sadface.gif border=0> I can only hope everything is sorted soon.
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I might snail mail some cash, although paypal is so much easier. Dx I can't find a GA to buy using sp, and this is really, really bad. u.u; I wanted to buy a few more september donation gifts but it doesn't look like that's going to be happening. (September's my birthmonth, and the only month I ever buy Donation Presents, aside from the occasional christmas purchase or a friend's birthday.)<br />
<br /> Well Keith, I hope everything works out alright. I know I'm not the only one bummin' over the whole paypal thing. Good luck!
<br /> Well Keith, I hope everything works out alright. I know I'm not the only one bummin' over the whole paypal thing. Good luck!
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Moro_115
Ack... all of this is fine with me, except that a 1 month GA medal has skyrocketed to over 3 million sp... I REALLY hope you can figure something out soon... I don't know if I have time to wait for snail mail, and I do like donating real money to Subeta since I enjoy playing it...
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Please ignore the comment on International Money Orders, I thought the article would tell the opposite that it did - how people outside the US can find money orders. I should read before I open my mouth (I just saw that it was a topic and ASSUMED incorrectly) *heart*
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water_neko, if you live in the US...money orders are like a personal check, but you exchange the funds with a business, like a Turkey Hill or 7-11, or like someone else suggested, Wal*Mart has inexpensive ones. What happens is you go to the merchant, and pay them a small fee (generally under $1.00), in addition to the face value (how much you want it for) and they print you a check for the amount you desire, and it is safe to mail as you write (or the merchant prints) the recipient on the money order (often abbreviated as MO). Wiki has an excellent article that I didn't look at until I typed all this...also talking about international money orders, which it sounds like many people here would like to get info on (remember, David said they look at the postmark, for those who want the September present)<br />
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Money_order<br />
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(not to anyone in particular) <br />
Yes mail takes a long time in comparison to instant transfers, but please appreciate that the staff is giving everyone an option at all! =)<br />
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Money_order<br />
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(not to anyone in particular) <br />
Yes mail takes a long time in comparison to instant transfers, but please appreciate that the staff is giving everyone an option at all! =)<br />
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.. *head. Dammit again.
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Oh no <img src=/images/smilies/6398_emoticon_sad.gif border=0> I owe someone 4 DPs and I -hate- ordering through the mail..<br />
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*smacks Paypal upside the hate* Dammit! <img src=/images/smilies/smiley_sadface.gif border=0>
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*smacks Paypal upside the hate* Dammit! <img src=/images/smilies/smiley_sadface.gif border=0>
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Hmm...I did only get paypal for this site, but I suppose that if that's the way they're going to treat people, then I'm glad you've decided to stop using it.<br />
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For those of us who aren't familiar with money orders, can someone explain to me how they work?
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For those of us who aren't familiar with money orders, can someone explain to me how they work?
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Aimee
I know our post office does money orders, so it's so easy for me to just go to the p.o. get a security envelope and a money order all in one place <img src=/images/smilies/6398_emoticon_smile.gif border=0>
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Teddy_620
I actually only got paypal for this site so it is a shame that that isn't working anymore. I will just have to buy my GA's with sp again.<br />
I am happy it is back up though xD
I am happy it is back up though xD
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I hope you do find another way to use credit cards or card payment because it's a pain for UK users to mail orders in. <br />
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WorldPay.com is a great secure credit transaction company, you could try them?
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WorldPay.com is a great secure credit transaction company, you could try them?
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No more paypal? o___o T'is how I got my stuff before! Oh well, snail mail it is. ._.
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Ohhhh noooo, no paypal payment *goes and gets a creditcard* I will be prepared <img src=/images/smilies/6398_emoticon_wink.gif border=0>!
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Rammstein
aww its sad that paypal is not working this was going to be the first time i could buy a GA and donation presents. :p sending money from wales will take ages :p
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Historiography
Yay, the donation page is back up! <img src=/images/smilies/6398_emoticon_grin.gif border=0><br />
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now to find some way to get a money order. That or I'll have to resort to sending cash through the mail.<br />
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Just a general note, but yes, money order is safer and if you're afraid of what will happen to it in the mail stick it then conceal it well.
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now to find some way to get a money order. That or I'll have to resort to sending cash through the mail.<br />
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Just a general note, but yes, money order is safer and if you're afraid of what will happen to it in the mail stick it then conceal it well.
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*sigh* I'm happy the donations are back, but I life in germany and so I can't send money to Keith or the other two. So I just can hope that the Gold Medals in the Trades will go slower in price.
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well im glad to see the donation page is back ,too bad paypals being stubborn.I guess ill have to use the old fashion mailing system <img src=/images/smilies/6398_emoticon_sad.gif border=0> although i dont like mailing money but i must have my gold account and donation presents xD
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Keith
I'm going to say it agian - The paypal problems AREN'T user side, they are dealing with PAYPAL not allowing SUBETA to process funds.<br />
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They have LIMITED our account, meaning that we can longer take payments. <br />
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We are working on this (with lawyers) to stop paypal from freezing our account, like they have THOUSANDS of other people for NO REASON.
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They have LIMITED our account, meaning that we can longer take payments. <br />
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We are working on this (with lawyers) to stop paypal from freezing our account, like they have THOUSANDS of other people for NO REASON.
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As ironic as it may sound, Mail is actually faster for me since it takes a week or so for my paypal payments to clear. Frankly, I'm just thankful that the donation page is back up. I think our bank has free money orders. I usually keep this fact under wraps since I work for the postal service. I mean free is a far cry from 90 cent postal money orders. I must prepare my order tonight and send it out first thing tomorrow. My GA expires *sigh* tomorrow... (I think)
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Crysti
They didn't say they don't want to keep paypal, Paypal is just being a pain. But they brought back the donation page so people are able to send in money. Paypal is still being worked on. They could have kept the page down until paypal was fixed, but fortunately didn't.<br />
It will still be better for those who can only use paypal as well.. at least GA medals and the donation presents will be coming into the trading post again. ^^
It will still be better for those who can only use paypal as well.. at least GA medals and the donation presents will be coming into the trading post again. ^^
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About time it came back, but one little flaw.<br />
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People in other countries would wait months for something they want as fast as possible, so mailing the money is not an option.<br />
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Many people don't have problems with paypal, so why not keep the paypal for those who have no problems, while working out how to use credit cards? Makes more logical sense than this, as its making everything from the donation gifts to the gold account american only site bonuses.
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People in other countries would wait months for something they want as fast as possible, so mailing the money is not an option.<br />
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Many people don't have problems with paypal, so why not keep the paypal for those who have no problems, while working out how to use credit cards? Makes more logical sense than this, as its making everything from the donation gifts to the gold account american only site bonuses.
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And what's with the people in foreign countries...? <br />
like me and my family...?<br />
Please bring Paypal back...please!!!!!<br />
like me and my family...?<br />
Please bring Paypal back...please!!!!!<br />
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HollowBull
Uhm yeah, I have a question. Will the Sepetember preasant stay up until paypal is in use again? Because that'd be really nice.<br />
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:X I'd try ordering all I want via snail mail, but Patty [my mom] alerady used the bills I gave her. So...now I can only buy what I want via...whatever. Paypal I guess.
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:X I'd try ordering all I want via snail mail, but Patty [my mom] alerady used the bills I gave her. So...now I can only buy what I want via...whatever. Paypal I guess.
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Melissa
Just FYI, most Wal-Marts in the US do money orders for less than 50 cents, depending on where you live. It's cheaper than pretty much anywhere else. <img src=/images/smilies/6398_emoticon_smile.gif border=0>
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Aimee
It's funny how so many people have had trouble with paypal and or ebay, i've used both for several years now and have not once ever had trouble with either. Sorry to hear that's it's caused people problems.
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StarofEvening
Thanks so much for bringing the donation page back up! I completely understand about paypal, they have treated me poorly in the past as well, and I'm very wary about them having my information. <br />
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I hope you guys get them straightened out soon! <img src=/images/smilies/6398_emoticon_grin.gif border=0>
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I hope you guys get them straightened out soon! <img src=/images/smilies/6398_emoticon_grin.gif border=0>
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AloneInShadow
paypal has messed me over a few times before. i ONLY use it because of this site. I don't order from ebay either because they've done me wrong as well. Its too bad the service ProPay is only available for MaryKay, it works better than paypal. Have you tried Google Checkout? I've heard its tons better and has 4 unique features that are supposed to kill Paypal.
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Moonlight
I know that Paypal has been pretty idiotic to Keith. Has he considered just buying one of those credit card machines and paying monthly for the fee to check them or whatever. I imagine it would cost him less then all the paypal fees anyway.
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Moonlight
Dhuman, you don't need tosend cash. Go to a store and purchase a money order, it's safer. And just to comment WHEEEEE XD *huggles donation page* Angelic Potion, and October Prezzies are all mine!!!
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Dhuman
-grabs 40 bucks- I need that Shuriken. I know sending cash is bad, but I need it ;x I NEED IT BAD!
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4Given
So many cute things! Too bad we are buying a car at the moment and everything else is on hold. <img src=/images/smilies/6398_emoticon_sad.gif border=0>
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I'm happy the donation page is back, too bad I can only pay via paypal or credit card <img src=/images/smilies/6398_emoticon_sad.gif border=0>
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Scraggle18
Thank you SO MUCH for bringing the donation page back!!! *smooches Keith and Subeta team*<br />
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*runs off to stuff envelopes full of money*
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*runs off to stuff envelopes full of money*
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Aimee
Man I hate having to wait to see what all the new donation present items are... I guess it's gonna be about a week before they start popping up, that is if people send out money for DP's.
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Aimee
And Krissyfur, debit cards will work just like a credit card IF it's got the VISA or MASTERCARD log on them. Just because it's a debit card won't mean you'll need to use a PIN number, it would just be processed like a credit card but still take the money from your account like a debit card.
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Crysti
Yes yes, even only snail mail donations is better than the page still being down completely! It is deeply appreciated! <img src=/images/smilies/6398_emoticon_happy.gif border=0><br />
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Aimee
For those complaining it's too slow to send it through the mail, spend the extra buck for priority, it's not going to be that much more because it's not like you're sending a chunk of gold that weighs a ton, just some paper money. Might be smart to put delivery confirmation on it also.
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adakie
*cheers the staff on* I've had past problems w/ paypal too, they can just really screw up sometimes. *crosses fingers and hopes the paypal people get it together soon*
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Judgement_126
Guys, we're working much harder than anyone thinks on getting Paypal back up. We DO NOT want to stop using it. This is a temporary measure because Paypal is being stupid. People complained that they wanted to donate via snail mail, so we brought the page back up for snail mail. I'm sorry if you want to donate through Paypal, we prefer that method, too. However, nothing we can do right now.
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witchy_woman
I always mail a check to keith I live about an hour from Raleigh heck I could drive there lol<br />
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never send cash thru the mail. money order can be traced by post office
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never send cash thru the mail. money order can be traced by post office
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Cowboy_497
Arg... I hate snail mail but I do so want a Spectrum Matter. Guess I'll just have to cope...
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I really hope that you don't stop using Paypal, or else I will have to stop using the donation page. =x I highly dislike using my credit card online, and paypal is one of the only ways to use a debit card online.<br />
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I hope this gets resolved. Please keep in mind that people use debit cards along with credit cards. ^^;
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I hope this gets resolved. Please keep in mind that people use debit cards along with credit cards. ^^;
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Must get that Enchanted Hypnosis Wand+Gold Account+Angelic Potion XD
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PEACHYz
Whoopsy, my post cut off. The rest was~<br />
"I use paypal a lot myself with eBay, so I know how idiotic they can be." Or something like that. :3
"I use paypal a lot myself with eBay, so I know how idiotic they can be." Or something like that. :3
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Keith
I'm not going to go into detail with our problem, btu it's not on our end, it's on the paypal end.<br />
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It has nothing to do with giving items, or processign funds. Our account is limited due to paypal being idiotic.
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It has nothing to do with giving items, or processign funds. Our account is limited due to paypal being idiotic.
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adakie
We can't even do online creditcard payments without paypal? Awww. <img src=/images/smilies/6398_emoticon_sad.gif border=0> That's the only way I CAN buy these.
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PEACHYz
Urf, you guys keep releasing new blob kitties. XD It's hard work trying to keep my gallery updated!<br />
But sadly.. if subeta switches to permanently no-paypal, I won't be able to buy anything anymore. <img src=/images/smilies/smiley_sadface.gif border=0>
But sadly.. if subeta switches to permanently no-paypal, I won't be able to buy anything anymore. <img src=/images/smilies/smiley_sadface.gif border=0>
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AeriaLureLor
Kamil, the Mystical Donadak Plushie gives you two pet slots, and the Mystical Montre Plushie gives you one.
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kazii
Just for the record, the numerous money orders I've sent Keith over the year(s) have all reached him without mishap. -shrug-
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Kamil
Ack! No Miracle 2 Potions! *wails* <br />
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Ah well, at least I can buy more GA medals and a Thriff. And possibly a Gear Shifter and a Kthx Kitty. And two Sex Berries for Maigrey and Sagan, so they can stop with the gender-bending already. <br />
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And the Mystical Plushies, of course. How many pets, in total, is it possible to buy spaces for again? <br />
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*ponders*
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Ah well, at least I can buy more GA medals and a Thriff. And possibly a Gear Shifter and a Kthx Kitty. And two Sex Berries for Maigrey and Sagan, so they can stop with the gender-bending already. <br />
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And the Mystical Plushies, of course. How many pets, in total, is it possible to buy spaces for again? <br />
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*ponders*
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Jasper
What kind of complications Keith? I've never had a problem with donations, especially since it became automatic.
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OK Keith, thanks so much for taking the time to answer my question. Its just I have never used paypal, always use my credit cards, so I did not know how that work <img src=/images/smilies/6398_emoticon_wink.gif border=0>
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hehe, i can go get a money order and send it out tomorrw, but if i could only get october presents i'd not get as many september ones XD <br />
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money orders are safer than cash, and most of those supercash places will let you get one free of charge too.
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money orders are safer than cash, and most of those supercash places will let you get one free of charge too.
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Kalon_Akarui
How do you buy them by mail though? Do you have to do a money order or what? I am not really sure what to do XP... That is, to make sure my money does not get 'lost' or stolen by the evil mailman XD haha...
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bd84, if you buy September Donation Presents, you will get September Donation items. But I remember reading that you will get those only if your mail is postmarked before they are taken off the donation page. <img src=/images/smilies/6398_emoticon_smile.gif border=0>
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I hope we can pay paypal / credit card soon... else those present gonna be hard to get... and i badl want some of those... and i don't trust post office and the time it take...
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Crysti
Better for those wanting one of the more expensive items, or several things too. I'd rather pay the extra 2 bucks or so to make sure my donation isn't lost, you know? <img src=/images/smilies/6398_emoticon_wink.gif border=0> They seem to keep better track of mail when it can be watched.
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if we buy the september presents, do we get the items from september, or october?
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did anyone look into the amazon pay system? thats what another site uses that had problems with paypal
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Kalon_Akarui
I just sold my last ga medal for 3.1 mil O_O"... man... But crud, now I need to get a new one XP..... ugh... I don't really know how to mail cash... I suppose I could do a money order... Those work, right... O_o...?
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You'll pay more for a tracking number, but on the other hand, you will know when to start harassing us for your items XD
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Crysti
If those who mail in the USA and can use the post office, don't forget you can certify your mail, and get a tracking number so you can keep track of it online. Mailing money is not as bad as it used to be. <img src=/images/smilies/6398_emoticon_wink.gif border=0>
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wait... that means no more GAs for Ocie! *grabs her last GA and huddles around it* now I'm afraid to use it.
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No paypal? But I don't have a credit card! Paypal is my only way of paying! and I'd like get clobbered by the parents if I mailed money...
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Crysti
Thank you for leaving the sept presents up a little longer *wants a della badly* Even not being able to accept paypal, i'm glad to see the page is back up. *will be mailing tomorrow* <img src=/images/smilies/6398_emoticon_happy.gif border=0><br />
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Keith
Because oopslost, we currently don't have a liscence or a terminal to accept Credit Card/Debit Card transactions.
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Oops got the name wrong it's<br />
'Google Checkout' maybe worth investigating <img src=/images/smilies/6398_emoticon_smile.gif border=0>
'Google Checkout' maybe worth investigating <img src=/images/smilies/6398_emoticon_smile.gif border=0>
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Cass
Paypal hates Subeta? D<b></b>: -throws bricks at it-<br />
Let's hope it gets over its grudge soon. Though the bricks likely didn't help. ^^;
Let's hope it gets over its grudge soon. Though the bricks likely didn't help. ^^;
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As soon as we can accept paypal again, we will inform you, as Keith said, we do want it back. Its not that we are trying to get rid of it, but for the time being we have no choice.
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Even if paypal is being a stick in the mud, why can't we still use our credit card or debt card?
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Erm G-Cash?<br />
The google payment system perhaps?
The google payment system perhaps?
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Aqua
I think there's other things like paypal? Maybe 2Checkout? Though I'm not sure how similar it is..
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SHiVA
Ah yes, there's BidPay, though I'm not sure if that's <i>just</i> for buyer's and seller's on online auction sites since I've never used it..
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ah no more paypal? well that is annoying, guess I'll not be getting anything from donation page again -sigh-
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Meekley
I was so happy to see that donations were back up, then I saw that paypal could no longer be accepted. <img src=/images/smilies/6398_emoticon_sad.gif border=0> I sure hope something is worked out soon with credit cards, it makes things so much easier. Thanks for at least getting the donations page back up, though.
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*apologizes for the double post*<br />
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And that kitty kinda creeps me out.. it looks like its made out of kitty litter. o.O
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And that kitty kinda creeps me out.. it looks like its made out of kitty litter. o.O
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pixiesdawn
I didn't know you went by the postmark. Thank David for clearing that up. <img src=/images/smilies/6398_emoticon_smile.gif border=0>
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SHiVA
Bah I meant <img src=/images/smilies/smiley_sadface.gif border=0> not <img src=/images/smilies/6398_emoticon_grin.gif border=0> xD
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*wonders if there's an available method for debit, not credit* *whistles innocently* <img src=/images/smilies/6398_emoticon_grin.gif border=0><br />
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If I must order via snail mail, then I must, but I much prefer online. <img src=/images/smilies/6398_emoticon_sigh.gif border=0><br />
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But hurray for the page being back up! *cheers* <img src=/images/smilies/6398_emoticon_grin.gif border=0>
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If I must order via snail mail, then I must, but I much prefer online. <img src=/images/smilies/6398_emoticon_sigh.gif border=0><br />
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But hurray for the page being back up! *cheers* <img src=/images/smilies/6398_emoticon_grin.gif border=0>
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Keith
Akatsuki - We aren't trying to get rid of it, we wan't it back as much as you do.<br />
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However, we aer having complications with Paypal at the moment, which is why the donation page was down in the first place.
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However, we aer having complications with Paypal at the moment, which is why the donation page was down in the first place.
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SHiVA
No Paypal? Nooooo D<img src=/images/smilies/6398_emoticon_grin.gif border=0>: Paypal is my most favorite and easiest way to pay.. It seems like there's another company like Paypal, I just have to remember the name..
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Akatsuki, because paypal hates subeta and treats us poorly. <img src=/images/smilies/6398_emoticon_smile.gif border=0>
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*wonders if there's an available method for debit, not credit* *whistles innocently* <img src=/images/smilies/6398_emoticon_grin.gif border=0><br />
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If I must order via snail mail, then I must, but I much prefer to order online. <img src=/images/smilies/6398_emoticon_sigh.gif border=0><br />
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But hurray for the donation page being back up! *cheers* <img src=/images/smilies/6398_emoticon_grin.gif border=0>
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If I must order via snail mail, then I must, but I much prefer to order online. <img src=/images/smilies/6398_emoticon_sigh.gif border=0><br />
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But hurray for the donation page being back up! *cheers* <img src=/images/smilies/6398_emoticon_grin.gif border=0>
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Lor
what? But Paypal is so easy, especially for people who don't own actual credit cards. I only have a debit card u__u.<br />
Dang, normal mail is so slow, but that's how I'll have to pay from now on....
Dang, normal mail is so slow, but that's how I'll have to pay from now on....
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Pixiesdawn, letters are postmarked when they leave the post office, so we can tell when it is sent <img src=/images/smilies/6398_emoticon_smile.gif border=0>
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YAY!!!!!! <img src=/images/smilies/6398_emoticon_grin.gif border=0>
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Crystle
So glad its back up! I dont even have a paypal, so I really didn't have to worry about that anyways X3 -gets her 5 bucks ready for GA- =D
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I wonder why only mail? o.o Oh well... *Snags envelope from sango and sends in a few tens.*
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Jinx
Only mail? <img src=/images/smilies/6398_emoticon_shocked.gif border=0> -Gets an envelope ready- Oh, and the lamb plushie is cute. <img src=/images/smilies/6398_emoticon_grin.gif border=0>
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MikiDaCrow
well...yay for page being back up..boo for me being unable to buy anything from now on.
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kitties !!! :O
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