The PETSP (People for the ethical treatment of Subeta Pets) have lobbied for days that various area's of the site require that your pets be fed and happy. Remember that the Lakeview Resort is always open and ready to take pets who's owners can't handle the task of feeding/playing with them. :)
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It isn't -hard- to put pets in the resort, of course, but it can get expensive. Every two weeks, I put all ten of my pets into the resort at the Basic level - as cheap as I can get it, for as long as I can get it. That would be about 14,000sP each two-week period. 28,000sP in four weeks. 42,000sP in six weeks. You get the idea.<br />
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Which is okay with me, I guess, but that's because I feel obligated somehow to keep my pets fed and happy. They're all characters I've created, and they're very real to me... not real in the way my three cats, rabbit, and dwarf hamster are real, but real in the way that they're very special to me and I'm very proud of them.<br />
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Anyhow... I guess I can't expect to change anyone's mind, but I'll try to express my opinion on this one. I think that it ought to be a choice, whether a person feeds and cares for their pets or doesn't. I can't explain why I think so, but... well... the pets are pixels. Is it honestly hurting much if there's a Demi-shaped cluster of pixels somewhere starving and their owner hasn't spent 10k or so feeding them more pixels? I just think this site is what individuals make of it, not what the staff want it to be. For me, yeah, it's a petsite, and my pets are important to me, almost alive in their own sense. (I hope that doesn't sound as childish and as stupid to you people as it does to me in my head.) But for other people, it's a place where they can get away from the stress of responsibility, or create characters and write stories, or sMail with friends, or whatever. And there shouldn't be any of this... obligatory pet-care stuff, and spraypaint on human avatars. Which, by the way... if I somehow ended up with spraypaint on my human avatar and some sign above it saying I don't feed my pets, I would be absolutely mortified. I already feel I'm constantly being judged and have... paranoia issues, so I don't really need such things hanging over my head (er, literally o_o).<br />
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... Just saying. You know.
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Which is okay with me, I guess, but that's because I feel obligated somehow to keep my pets fed and happy. They're all characters I've created, and they're very real to me... not real in the way my three cats, rabbit, and dwarf hamster are real, but real in the way that they're very special to me and I'm very proud of them.<br />
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Anyhow... I guess I can't expect to change anyone's mind, but I'll try to express my opinion on this one. I think that it ought to be a choice, whether a person feeds and cares for their pets or doesn't. I can't explain why I think so, but... well... the pets are pixels. Is it honestly hurting much if there's a Demi-shaped cluster of pixels somewhere starving and their owner hasn't spent 10k or so feeding them more pixels? I just think this site is what individuals make of it, not what the staff want it to be. For me, yeah, it's a petsite, and my pets are important to me, almost alive in their own sense. (I hope that doesn't sound as childish and as stupid to you people as it does to me in my head.) But for other people, it's a place where they can get away from the stress of responsibility, or create characters and write stories, or sMail with friends, or whatever. And there shouldn't be any of this... obligatory pet-care stuff, and spraypaint on human avatars. Which, by the way... if I somehow ended up with spraypaint on my human avatar and some sign above it saying I don't feed my pets, I would be absolutely mortified. I already feel I'm constantly being judged and have... paranoia issues, so I don't really need such things hanging over my head (er, literally o_o).<br />
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Why's everybody so cranky? Get over it. I never feed or play with my pets, but even I know that it's not that hard putting them in the damn resort.
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tfsr, it seems that for some users pets don't get hungry/sad at all. I left subeta for over a year before and when I came back my pet was fed and happy. But for the ones that get hungry properly, yes, they get hungry as often as several times a day and require long feeding/playing sessions.
Uh, well.<br />
I've paid my pets no attention for at least a month, but I still have wardrobe access, and they're all "Not Hungry". <br />
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So, I guess I've no problem with it?<br />
(Also, I'm not really a wardrobe addict, either, so I suppose it's not really that huge of a deal to me.)<br />
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But I like the idea, to a certain extent.<br />
It is a <strong>pet</strong>site, after all. <br />
And those of you complaining that we should use that time to feed our "real life" pets, that's essentially the lamest excuse ever. If you honestly think you could use that time to feed your real life pet, and there is <i>no other time</i> you could feed your real-life Sparky or Rex or whatever other than the five minutes it takes to feed these online things, then you spend way too much time in front of your computer.
I've paid my pets no attention for at least a month, but I still have wardrobe access, and they're all "Not Hungry". <br />
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So, I guess I've no problem with it?<br />
(Also, I'm not really a wardrobe addict, either, so I suppose it's not really that huge of a deal to me.)<br />
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But I like the idea, to a certain extent.<br />
It is a <strong>pet</strong>site, after all. <br />
And those of you complaining that we should use that time to feed our "real life" pets, that's essentially the lamest excuse ever. If you honestly think you could use that time to feed your real life pet, and there is <i>no other time</i> you could feed your real-life Sparky or Rex or whatever other than the five minutes it takes to feed these online things, then you spend way too much time in front of your computer.
Blah. I take care of my real-world pets, why should I have to take care of the ones online, too? That's not why I come to play. If I want to feed a pet daily I go feed my cat upstairs or my dogs when they scratch at the food container.
im here to play. and now i will play "care for your pet". this is just another aspect of playing, not "childish". btw i got much fun chosing food for my pets, even if i most likely will always throw them into the resort. and hell did i laugh about the "painted" HAs! though i have to agree that "petsp" had to cry more about expereiment pets and the pet-fur/sepparated body parts/food made out of pets. what about "I DIDNT FEED MY PET EXEPT WITH OTHER PETS CRUELY KILLED"?
Well, Cyn, I was going by what the site owner has been saying. I've seen him say that it's not a pet site many times. I can't help it if the official definition of the site changes to favor every new implemented feature. <br /><br /><b>Quote:</b><blockquote style="padding:5px; line-height:15px; background-color: #FAFFFF; border: 1px solid #000000; font-family: georgia; font-size: 10;">Really, atleast you'll never be confronted with the possibility of -losing- them, no matter how scarcely they are cared for. </blockquote><br />
YET. I never thought I'd be forced to feed and play with my pet just to access features on a seemingly laid-back and mature site, but here we are.
YET. I never thought I'd be forced to feed and play with my pet just to access features on a seemingly laid-back and mature site, but here we are.
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I know this is a pet site and that we are to take great care of them as we would our real pets, but my only problem is when playing with them, that item disappears. Could you fix that, maybe? I mean some of the items they can play with are expensive, to those that aren't, but they shouldn't disappear. When we play fetch with our dogs, that toy just don't up and disappear, we keep throwing it, LOL.
Subeta IS!!!!!!!!!!!! a pet site it hasn't always had the avies i was here fro years with out them i think adding them has made people forget about there pets. having your avy spraypainted is a little overdoing it though. just a smige. I think that when your pet is starving or like magerly unhappy you should get like a random event tip of thing with your pet and in a bubble say feed me or play with me.
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I just throw my pets in the lodge. Don't have to worry about it. This doesn't bring a rise out of me, although a bit more inconvenient... but it is a pet site. Gotta take care of your pets!
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I saw an HA with a bunch of red 'paint' splashed all over it, and a sign above it that says "I DON'T FEED MY PETS" ... this was hilarious. But I really don't like being punished for not feeding or playing with. Perhaps you can readjust the rates of the emotions and hunger are at. They go down so fast, perhaps if you slowed it down just a bit... just a bit... It's so hard to keep up with 10 pets and you're not home all the time.
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I don't like it. T.T I tried to get to my wardrobe when Sumora, one of my pets, was unhappy but full. I got spray-painted. And it didn't leave until five or six hours later, I think. Good for the PETSP for lobbying, but could you just say "You can't go there because..." Spray painting someone is a rather annoying and insulting way to get the point across.
I... don't like this idea at all. I think this should have been voted on with a poll.<br />
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But I'm not going to complain and make a big deal out of it. It isn't a big deal. It's just annoying.
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But I'm not going to complain and make a big deal out of it. It isn't a big deal. It's just annoying.
This is quite a drastic change and in my opinion it should have a Poll Vote as it's a fairly big change and there are many reasons why people would/wouldn't like it.
I just don't have the SP to spend on food and toys, I only come for the HA and the pet colors. <br />
Seriously, all of the items in my wardrobe, even the ones I'm not wearing added all up together would probably be over 20 or so mil, not that much to some people, but it is to me. Hell, after buying my serpent I'm having a hard time recovering from the loss of sp. <br />
I don't know if this is a you need to feed your pet thing right now, because it has been hungry for a few days or like...as soon as it gets hungry or whatever you can't get to the wardrobe. Honestly I haven't fed my pets since I've joined, i haven't seen a real reason to. <img src="http://images.subeta.org/smilies/smiley_sadface.gif" border="0" />Its not like they die or run away or whatever, they are just pixels.
Seriously, all of the items in my wardrobe, even the ones I'm not wearing added all up together would probably be over 20 or so mil, not that much to some people, but it is to me. Hell, after buying my serpent I'm having a hard time recovering from the loss of sp. <br />
I don't know if this is a you need to feed your pet thing right now, because it has been hungry for a few days or like...as soon as it gets hungry or whatever you can't get to the wardrobe. Honestly I haven't fed my pets since I've joined, i haven't seen a real reason to. <img src="http://images.subeta.org/smilies/smiley_sadface.gif" border="0" />Its not like they die or run away or whatever, they are just pixels.
I don't feed my pets that often I just throw them into the hotel, feeding regularly and the normal way is too tedious for my tastes and I'm rather impatient. <br />
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Besides feeding them isen't realy much fun and besides filling there bellys theres no advantage to it. I think if there was some sort of reward for feeding by hand or feeding more regularly I may feed them more.
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Besides feeding them isen't realy much fun and besides filling there bellys theres no advantage to it. I think if there was some sort of reward for feeding by hand or feeding more regularly I may feed them more.
This all just cracks me up....but one suggestion I would love to see implemented is that you can send all your pets to the resort all at once, instead of individually, oh I guess another one along the same lines of the resort is that it be for longer periods of time.<br />
A suggestion that I also have along with putting them in all at the same time is a group rate..Ranging from groups of two to 12 ...I know some people have more than 10.<br />
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A suggestion that I also have along with putting them in all at the same time is a group rate..Ranging from groups of two to 12 ...I know some people have more than 10.<br />
Seems it would save on the repetivness of steps if you had more than two or more pets. <img src="http://images.subeta.org/smilies/6398_emoticon_smile.gif" border="0" />
hmm I spotted an HA that was all red with embarrassment and had a banner over head saying that the user hadn't fed their pet, is that from this thing or is that a HA item?<br />
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I thought it was pretty funny to see personally, I scarecly play the minion feeding game but when I do and I am too slow and miss the bubble my item of food would have fed, I give it to one of my pets, Both my pets are named after nicknames of a close friend of mine so I always try to keep them both happy and well fed, it really isn't that hard to do and they are laping it up in the inn thingy.
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I thought it was pretty funny to see personally, I scarecly play the minion feeding game but when I do and I am too slow and miss the bubble my item of food would have fed, I give it to one of my pets, Both my pets are named after nicknames of a close friend of mine so I always try to keep them both happy and well fed, it really isn't that hard to do and they are laping it up in the inn thingy.
Anothing thing as well, everyone should be thankful that the neglection of your Subeta pets only rescricts access to certain -pages-..it could be far worse, I know that on Kenopets your animals will -run away- if left unattended . .' Really, atleast you'll never be confronted with the possibility of -losing- them, no matter how scarcely they are cared for.
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ive always kept my pets in the resort, its a pain when they all get out at once but oh well, doesnt cost much, and is actually cheaper then trying to feed and play with them all, even keep one of them in the gold section coz hes spoiled rotten, bout time keith, only makes me half as huffy over the rize in vending prices
<b>Quote:</b><blockquote style="padding:5px; line-height:15px; background-color: #FAFFFF; border: 1px solid #000000; font-family: georgia; font-size: 10;">But what I don't understand about one aspect of the pets is why when you play with your pets using a toy item, that item is gone. I know in real life if I play with a toy it doesn't go poof. I would love to see that changed and I am sure others would as well, the item should stay in your inventory so you can keep playing with it.</blockquote><br />
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In real life, my dogs tend to get overzealous with a new toy, and many times after the first time they play with it, it is missing pieces. Maybe I buy cheap toys, but anyways... still, gone after one play.<br />
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Also, it is a way to have toys keep their value. If you had a ball, and could play with it over and over and over, you wouldn't buy another ball, would you? So once everyone has a ball, it would become a totally worthless item. <br />
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If Keith wanted to make it interesting/more realistic, he could add a chance that the toy would survive... but I seriously don't see the point.<br />
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Plus, if you are feeling lazy, there is always the lodge. Put them all in at basic, or one as I have heard it is active pet, and in a few hours they are very bloated and happy.<br />
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Note to those who are complaining this isn't instantaneous: Again, in real life, if you are depressed and starving to death, are you instantly very happy and bloated when you enter a hotel? I doubt it.<br />
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In real life, my dogs tend to get overzealous with a new toy, and many times after the first time they play with it, it is missing pieces. Maybe I buy cheap toys, but anyways... still, gone after one play.<br />
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Also, it is a way to have toys keep their value. If you had a ball, and could play with it over and over and over, you wouldn't buy another ball, would you? So once everyone has a ball, it would become a totally worthless item. <br />
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If Keith wanted to make it interesting/more realistic, he could add a chance that the toy would survive... but I seriously don't see the point.<br />
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Plus, if you are feeling lazy, there is always the lodge. Put them all in at basic, or one as I have heard it is active pet, and in a few hours they are very bloated and happy.<br />
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Note to those who are complaining this isn't instantaneous: Again, in real life, if you are depressed and starving to death, are you instantly very happy and bloated when you enter a hotel? I doubt it.<br />
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I like how this has made actually taking care of your pets more important on the site. After all, Subeta isn't just an avatar site or a millionaire fantasy life site, it's first and foremost a pet site and lots of people have forgotten that while saving up for hot HA items or trying to breach 50 mil Sp.<br />
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And it isn't that expensive to feed and entertain your pets. Put them in the resort for one day a week on the 100 Sp a day package. For 10 pets, that's only 1k a week. From there, you can use some of the cheap toys and foods you have rotting in your shops or forgotten in your vaults. This shouldn't be a biggie for people with 10 pages of stuff in their vaults since at least half of it must be food and/or toys. Some people are making a bigger deal of this than it is. So you have to feed your pets now and it'll take a bit longer to save for X HA item. Oooh, sad...
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And it isn't that expensive to feed and entertain your pets. Put them in the resort for one day a week on the 100 Sp a day package. For 10 pets, that's only 1k a week. From there, you can use some of the cheap toys and foods you have rotting in your shops or forgotten in your vaults. This shouldn't be a biggie for people with 10 pages of stuff in their vaults since at least half of it must be food and/or toys. Some people are making a bigger deal of this than it is. So you have to feed your pets now and it'll take a bit longer to save for X HA item. Oooh, sad...
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I'd love the idea of being able to put them all in the inn instead of one by one, saves on lag... but seriously ppl, wow, how old is everyone? So you have to feed them now, the world is going to end! What is the big deal? It 'is' a petsite, lo and behold, look, digital pets sitting right there, pixals and all. Be thankful they don't get sick with cures that you can't buy because of markups in usershops.
actually I asked if their should be an option in the resort where you can put all the pets (not one by one) in it.
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AllyToEquality, glad to see you find feeding/playing with virtual pets (which need to eat 50 times their own weigh daily and make their toys magically dissapear after use) because they'll cryyyy bawwwwwwwww more mature than playing dressup. I mean dressup is like sooo childish, yeah? Not like cartoon pets crying because you haven't been feeding them compulsively for the last 3 hours.
It cracks me up how people are saying "if you don't want to feed and play with your pets, don't create them!"<br />
I for one, created my pet to DRAW them and create stories, etc. i don't give a crap if they're depressed or starving x D It's also annoying how people are comparing pixels to real-life animals. i mean really. that's just sad : D<br />
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In all honesty this isn't that big of a deal, but yeah o-o; i think comments should be locked here or something so people specifically complain on the complaining boards. -hypocrite-<br />
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I for one, created my pet to DRAW them and create stories, etc. i don't give a crap if they're depressed or starving x D It's also annoying how people are comparing pixels to real-life animals. i mean really. that's just sad : D<br />
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Well said x3<br />
In all honesty this isn't that big of a deal, but yeah o-o; i think comments should be locked here or something so people specifically complain on the complaining boards. -hypocrite-<br />
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I think that you can think out something more interesting than this ><<br />
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And could you make bigger amount of days in Lakeview Resort? Pleash. <img src="http://images.subeta.org/smilies/6398_emoticon_smile.gif" border="0" />
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And could you make bigger amount of days in Lakeview Resort? Pleash. <img src="http://images.subeta.org/smilies/6398_emoticon_smile.gif" border="0" />
Psht, it's not worth it for me. My HA can be permanent. Really not a big fan of the feature. Kind of childish.
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Ok where do I even start..<br />
I can no longer sit here and say nothing about this.<br />
As an active member of PETA I take offense to this.. Not ALL members of peta act that way.. I for one would NEVER throw paint on someone just cause they wore fur or didn't feed their pet.<br />
Going by the new subeta pet standard then wouldn't it be fair to throw red paint on HA that wear fur like the kumos fur etc..??<br />
Also I think that people should have the option to put their pets in the lodge for more then just 14 days (heck even neo gives the option of 28 days) due to people whom have certain circumstances like jobs or sickness or whatever the case is where they are unable to get online for a month or so (example would be Debilee).<br />
I like the fact that the focus is brought back to the pets on the site but still it needs to be fair to everyone.
I can no longer sit here and say nothing about this.<br />
As an active member of PETA I take offense to this.. Not ALL members of peta act that way.. I for one would NEVER throw paint on someone just cause they wore fur or didn't feed their pet.<br />
Going by the new subeta pet standard then wouldn't it be fair to throw red paint on HA that wear fur like the kumos fur etc..??<br />
Also I think that people should have the option to put their pets in the lodge for more then just 14 days (heck even neo gives the option of 28 days) due to people whom have certain circumstances like jobs or sickness or whatever the case is where they are unable to get online for a month or so (example would be Debilee).<br />
I like the fact that the focus is brought back to the pets on the site but still it needs to be fair to everyone.
Ugh.. I'm 21-years-old with 10 pets in real life.. I don't need to take care of fake ones too <img src="http://images.subeta.org/smilies/smiley_sadface.gif" border="0" /> Seriously, I didn't create my virtual pets to act like a 10-year-old and feed and play with them daily, I got them to show my creative side by making personalities, drawings and such. Ah well, I guess it's more of an excuse to stray away to my other sites xD<br /><br />After reading a lot of the posts, I'm seeing a lot of people [sarcastically] mentioning how this is a petsite (which it isn't), so we can't complain, and if we don't like it, get rid of our pets. Well you know what? None of us would have a problem with it I'm sure if this was a feature implemented in the beginning. At least then we could have chosen if we wanted to stay at such a site without losing too much. I've been here for over a year, it will be 2 years in a few months, so I have too much invested to just leave. Also, my pets, I have had most of them since my first few months on here, and have gotten them the way I like them both physically and personality-wise. I'm not going to throw them in the pound because I hate this feature, and I'm not going to "get over it." <br /><br />This is just a baby's feature really.. I thought this site was more mature than to force us to feed fake pets as if they were real. Sorry, I grew out of that phase soon after joining Neopets 7 years ago. You have to laugh at the irony: we can talk about how items on this site resemble phalluses, but we must pretend like children that our pixels are real pets that need constant attention. Meh, I just don't like where this is heading...
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I think the whining and complaining about it is utterly amusing myself, if you didnt want to have to deal with a pixel pet then you shouldnt have created one, pretty simple logic there lol. Anyhow I agree I think its a great rule, and I like that focus is being brought to the pets because they seemed to slip into the shadows of wearables.
This is nice in a way, it does bring the focus back to your pets, which is kind of the main reason for the site. It seems that Human Avatars took over, I know it did for me.... guilty as charged here. But what I don't understand about one aspect of the pets is why when you play with your pets using a toy item, that item is gone. I know in real life if I play with a toy it doesn't go poof. I would love to see that changed and I am sure others would as well, the item should stay in your inventory so you can keep playing with it.
So how come on the first screen bronze costs 250 per day, but on the second pages you get charged 350 a day?
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So you won't be able to dress up your avatar in the wardrobe if your pets aren't fed?<br />
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Whatever, I guess I'll just use the generator then. Doesn't make any difference. XD
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Whatever, I guess I'll just use the generator then. Doesn't make any difference. XD
ALL of my pets are in the resort...but when I look them up, several are still famished or starving. The food must be terrible there. LOL
I dunno about anyone else but lately I've found it extremely hard to keep my pets happy. I play with them loads but it takes several tries to even make them from depressed to just bored. Then when I finally get them contented, I come on the next day and they're depressed again. I don't get it so I gave up with them until its fixed.
Nnngh, I enjoyed not needing to worry about feeding. Using items causes lag for me, and it can take over fifteen minutes to feed all 10 of my pets once each.
I keep my pets in the lodge because of my medical problems (MS) keeping me in and out all the time. For those of us with medical issues the lodge is a must. I try to be here as much as I can but there are times that I can't because of hospital stays, internet outages, ect. Using the lodge doesn't mean that we don't care what happens to our pets. The lodge is used for different reasons. I'm thankful the lodge is an option because I know my pets are being cared for on days that I can't be here. I'm okay with the new changes because I enjoy working with my pets and doing quests here <img src="http://images.subeta.org/smilies/6398_emoticon_smile.gif" border="0" />.
I don't mind this change, seeing as I... don't really care about this site as much as I used to? Haha. I do agree that certain foods should have certain filling values, and that since this rule has been implemented, toys need to be able to be used more than once.<br />
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I don't know about you guys, but when I hug a stuffed animal, it doesn't disappear afterwards.
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I don't know about you guys, but when I hug a stuffed animal, it doesn't disappear afterwards.
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I wish we could have more than 14 days. Two weeks don't really cut if for me. <img src="http://images.subeta.org/smilies/6398_emoticon_sad.gif" border="0" />
Well crap I just learned about the spraying.. screw it, I am going to be a lazy owner and shove them in the lodge.. poor zappper ISN'T going to enjoy being fed or happy!! sigh what can you, do when in Rome.. BAH
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One of the things I enjoyed about this site was NOT having to feed/play with my pets. I do that on other sites, or else lock my acct to keep from having to do that.<br />
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I'm very disappointed in Subeta for making this change without any discussion or polls.