The poor Chelon (yes. It's being given a name change. Turdle isn't very original :() is being given a revamp, and needs your opinion. :D
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ElectricMouse

I actually kinda like this one. :3 The gems could be a little bigger in my opinion...or more innocent looking... :/ More like the old gems.<br />
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<3 <3 for the name, though. ^^
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Love it =] Much more original.
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Hoshi

Great job, no complaints. I'm sure the overwhelming number of votes for the Chelon speak for themselves.
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Love this!!!
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Starry

I like the new design - well done <img src="http://images.subeta.org/smilies/6398_emoticon_smile.gif" border="0" />
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Bowser

Oh god I am in LOVE with this revamp, excellent job to the artists once again, this is seriously amazing D;, it actually looks like the pet it's suppose to represent now, I hated that cartoony look, great job toning down the cuteness, it's still adorable but looks like a more serious choice for a pet now. Most people have already pointed out the issue with the middle gem on the shell, tis my only complaint, otherwise I'm probably going to get one once it comes out ^^
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Rah

<b>Quote:</b><blockquote style="padding:5px; line-height:15px; background-color: #FAFFFF; border: 1px solid #000000; font-family: georgia; font-size: 10;">My only suggestion is that you get all its special colors done BEFORE final release. I'm getting tired of waiting anywhere from six months to a year for special color revamps. :/</blockquote><br />
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I don't understand - so you'd rather wait 6 months to a year for the artist to even get the revamped common posed version on the site, even though it was all finished and ready to go? That is never the way we'll do it, I'm afraid. This revamp effects 12 different colours, and that's enough to be starting with <img src="http://images.subeta.org/smilies/6398_emoticon_smile.gif" border="0" />
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Lyzette

Oh yeah.
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Afrael

I have only one issue with it. The gem in the very midst. It it too... sharp or something, I can't tell. I stare at it all the time, while I am supposed to look at the face <img src="http://images.subeta.org/smilies/6398_emoticon_sad.gif" border="0" />
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dreamcatpaws

Truly, truly, beautiful.
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orion

The art is really really gorgeous. Like, amazing. o.o<br />
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But I'll be missing the cuteness of the Turdle... =/
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Golden16

SWEEEEEEEEET! SOOOOOO COOOOOOOOL!!
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I love it! The revamp is awesome! I love all the little details like the spots and the gems, way to go artist! <img src="http://images.subeta.org/smilies/6398_emoticon_smile.gif" border="0" />
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I don't really like the revamp. The current one is cuter, and looks more sort of babyish, and I prefer it. There's nothing perticularly about this which makes me want this one.<br />
I do like the name change though.
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Blitzdragon_178

I love the new name! ^^ Turdle was lame anyways. XD<br />
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Oh and could you answer a question for me Keshi? Do you (and other staff artists) like or resent the criticism that users post in the comments? Like do y'all actually take it into consideration and try to improve the, or would you rather us just vote and not comment? I mean I can understand not wanting us to rush you to make stuff like you said a few posts before, but how do you feel about our criticism? Are there just too many people to please for it to be worth it?<br />
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(I read other people's comments about criticism and whether we should leave it or not, but I thought a staff artist's opinion might be a bit more helpful...)<br />
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Anyways... I'd also like to say that I love the way the gems are set. They look much more realistic and overall it looks much less cartoony. And I'm glad it's not all cutesy. I would much rather have good artwork than cute pictures. XD
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It looks old!! <br />
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The change of name is the worst bit though. <img src="http://images.subeta.org/smilies/6398_emoticon_sad.gif" border="0" /> Turdle was soo cute.
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Keshi

I can't get all Special Colours done before release, are you crazy XD<br />
There are about 15 Special Colours, that would take months or more. I don't sit at the computer drawing 14/7, I still have a life, school and such.<br />
You will have to wait till I have time to do the special colours, but that does not mean I am going to abandon this for a few months and then decide to do a special colour.<br />
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Anyway, I still have to do all the recolours for this. Which may take some time.<br />
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I feel as though some of you users need a bit more patience when it comes to pets. Us artists can not draw everything at your demand by a certain time.<br />
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Thank you to those who do enjoy the Chelon~
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ex.oh

It looks a million times better than it did!<br />
The art is lovely! (:
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I really love the new look and name. I agree with NoirRaven, though, please get the colors done for the revamp before official release, too.
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Pirate

Wow, it's nice. <img src="http://images.subeta.org/smilies/6398_emoticon_shocked.gif" border="0" /><br />
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Please don't make it cuter, it's great the way it is. There are so many cute Pets on Subeta that Chelon would be more special if it would stay like that than it would become Sweet Pet #xy again. I never liked the oh so happy expression on the Turdle anyways.
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Schilloyo

dangit. There goes my favorite pet. ;0;
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Einao

Well, at least the name is better. xD (Yeah, I still don't like 'Ontra' ...)
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Levi

I agree. its lost a bit of the cutness, but, yeah i think the re-vamp is good -kind of-
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Arayus

I love it! The name change is very suitable and just the whole appearance is very lovely. Great job!
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Jasper

XD Forgot to add my two cents... but that's because I really don't have any. XD Let's face it, the Turdle was ugly, so it was going to be hard to screw up its revamp.<br />
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My only suggestion is that you get all its special colors done BEFORE final release. I'm getting tired of waiting anywhere from six months to a year for special color revamps. :/
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Jasper

OH thank you! This species really needed it and I just love the way it looks! <img src="http://images.subeta.org/smilies/6398_emoticon_grin.gif" border="0" /> But uhm... what the hell is with the rename? D=
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yellowdream

yes its a winner looks an hard little nipper and the name is much better <img src="http://images.subeta.org/smilies/6398_emoticon_smile.gif" border="0" />
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Minyassa

Absolutely lovely! The only thing I do not love about it is, again, the eye color has been changed, and as I have said before in numerous revamp threads...some people do choose a pet based on existing colors, even for Common. But that is a small detail and the rest of it is utterly fantastic!
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malperson

I'm not crazy about the texture of the head and fins but I like the shell.
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I love it. The new pet revamp keep getting better and better.
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Holy crap. I LOVE the re-vamp o_o
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litl_mama

I never was crazy about the turdles but the chelon I'm seriously considering getting one. I may or may not but I am considering it and I definately really like it. I didn't like the shell at first but it grew on me fast. Great job to whomever did the revamp.
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I'm really impressed with this new Chelon. It looks much more realistic and in keeping with the newer pets and revamps, and we can actually tell that there are gems on his(?) back. I also absolutely love the expression on his face, he's so cute and not just in a chibi-blob sort of way like the old one. Kudos to the artist.
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Mingbee

This is just gorgeous. I never considered having a turdle as a pet but I think I'm going to do some rearranging and add a Chelon. Excellent job!
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Mandy

Oh wow. I always loved turdles (Chelons?), but they desperatly needed a revamp. I love this one so much. I can't see anything wrong with it. If this goes through I might consider getting one <img src="http://images.subeta.org/smilies/6398_emoticon_grin.gif" border="0" />
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HypnoticPoison

Wow! Wow, wow, wow! Now this is an amazing revamp! I'm really glad to see some of the extreme cuteness being removed, although i have a bad feeling that may change before the final release.. Either way, this new design looks absolutely stunning! <img src="http://images.subeta.org/smilies/6398_emoticon_grin.gif" border="0" /> Hopefully if there are anymore changes made they will be very minor ones.
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MissXami

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I love it.<br />
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Sorry I dont have any crits atm, I will look it over later, but...Kudos to artist *heart*<br />
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Time to buy a turdle/chelon elixiiiiir
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Neori

It looks so much better, and its much more detailed, I really like it, great job <img src="http://images.subeta.org/smilies/6398_emoticon_happy.gif" border="0" />
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I'm pretty sure if the artists/staff didn't want people commenting on the art, they would disable the comments. If I recall correctly, it's been done before when things got out of hand.
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Blitzdragon_178

Great job, much better than the old one. XD<br />
The angle feels kinda awkward though. I think a different point of view could do the pet more justice...<br />
And the neck in this seems too big. Maybe turtles are just like that though. *shrug* I think overall it would look better if the shell was bigger... That's the coolest part of the pet anyways so I think it'd be nice if it was larger. <br />
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=) Great job improving it though!
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Neon_Monkey

Now I might get around to getting one. I love reptiles, but the old one was kind of blah<br />
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And this one is MANLY like myself.
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Rakumel

Um...that's how artists get better, is by getting feedback from others (usually other artists, but not necessarily so). No matter how perfect you think an artist already is, there's always room for improvement and growth. Without critique, artists stagnate. Telling us to stop commenting is not only rude, but a bad, BAD idea. <br />
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How we feel about the work doesn't necessarily reflect what we think of the artist. Just because someone may not exactly like how a certain drawing looks, that does NOT by default mean that that person doesn't like the artist, or doesn't think the artist has talent, or thinks that the artist didn't work hard on it. <br />
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In short, we're all trying to help her out here, not tear her down. (I assume. And I'm sorry for assuming =p) And by the way, I voted for the revamp before I left any comments. Is it really so bad to take the time to explain why I voted the way I did, rather than just click a button and be done with it? Think about it.
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Yeah, I'm with StrixMoonwing. Guys, these artists work really hard on these things. Constructive criticism is great and all, but either vote for the revamp or don't. Don't leave critical comments to the post. =) They're unlikely to be heeded anyway.
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Thunderbird

Nice! <img src="http://images.subeta.org/smilies/6398_emoticon_smile.gif" border="0" /> The poor Turdle (now Chelon) desperately needed a revamp! I see that they named it after the Archelon - the ancient giant sea turtle of the Age of Dinosaurs!<br />
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Now, if only you could work on the Torrey, Hipposaru, or Hikei...I'll be looking forward to more revamps!<br />
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P.S. - Honestly, I'm sick or all you artists posting your suggestions about how to make it better, just because you don't like the way it looks, or because you don't think it looks "correct". The official Subeta artists work really hard, and in my opinion, the designs look good enough already - they don't need any more tweaking! Besides, the time that *would* be used to satisfy all of your complaints could be better used for, say, revamping other pet species in desperate need of revamps, too!
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Tribunal

It's great... <br />
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Only thing: It looks a little.. male. Like, I realize we're moving away from the "cutesy" basic pets, and that's good.. but maybe a little more softness in the face wouldn't hurt.<br />
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But I don't own a Turdle.. er.. Cheleon, and probably never will, so <img src="http://images.subeta.org/smilies/6398_emoticon_grin.gif" border="0" /><br />
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(Great name change, btw.)
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Alewiina

You guys reeeeeeallly need to do the Ruffie next. It has awesome potential, but right now is soooooooo ugly haha.
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Alewiina

FINALLY.<br />
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The only thing I don't like is the mouth... he looks like he's sneering, perhaps he could be happier?<br />
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Otherwise, I love it!
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Templar

Nice over all. The only suggestions I can give is to fix the shell, since with the way it is positioned in comparison to the head. It makes it look sort of detached.... and the head looks pretty big for the rest of it... Besides that, I like how the gems are sunken in. Good job all around.
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Finally! The art for that pet was just urking me... the art work is beautiful^^ <br />
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As far as critictism goes...something bugs me about the gems on it's back. Though I don't know exactly what it is. Bleh but whatever I welcome the revamp with open arms regardless. Maybe now this little turtle will get some fans X3
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OtakuOokami

I'm not that fond of this revamp, the art just does nothing for me. I think it's the addition of the darker scales on the flippers and head and the fact that the eyes seem smaller in proportion to the head, taking away much of the innocence of the current design.
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Great revamp for a pet that needed one desperately!
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Rakumel

This is the first revamp where I can't even find anything to nitpick about. Usually when I see a revamp in the news and see the new art, I find myself thinking, "It's nice, but..." Not this time! <img src="http://images.subeta.org/smilies/6398_emoticon_smile.gif" border="0" /> I love the details on the flippers, head, and shell. I like the smaller eyes, they're the perfect size to me. Maybe a little beak-nose wouldn't hurt, but I also wouldn't mind the face as is. Don't know at the moment which artist did this, but they did an outstanding job!
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AppleTea

I think this is much cuter *u*<br />
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but imo I think the gems could be shinier 8D
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The Turdle really needed a graphical update, but I'm not sure if I like this design or not. Then again, the more I look at it now the more I like it. I think perhaps it's just the way the gems are placed on the shell that bother me. Silly complaint yes? It certainly has much more detail than the current Turdle and fits in more with the other pets. Poor Hipposaru, soon he'll be all alone in the "Wow am I outdated!" club. <img src="http://images.subeta.org/smilies/6398_emoticon_sad.gif" border="0" />
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babytwinklette

It doesn't need a new name <img src="http://images.subeta.org/smilies/6398_emoticon_sad.gif" border="0" /> Poor Turdle <img src="http://images.subeta.org/smilies/6398_emoticon_sad.gif" border="0" />
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BlueRiver

So much better, but I think I like the gem pattern on the old one more.
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Burzum

this is absolutely amazing, I love it! Only suggestion I have is maybe to have the shell be more aligned with the head, otherwise GREAT JOB!!!
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Natsu_792

Whoa. That's a strange look. lol. I love how it looks like a turtle now.
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About time this pet got a revamp! <img src="http://images.subeta.org/smilies/6398_emoticon_grin.gif" border="0" />
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I like the old one better it reminds me of a sea monster other than a turtle
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CassieFenix

I really like how this one looks like a Sea Turtle (and nice choice on the name! Especially since it goes back to the ancient turtle ancestors.). The only complaint I have is the back right flipper and the front left flipper. Those look a bit off, if you ask me.<br />
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As for if I like the Revamp or the Original, I'd have to say the Revamped one looks better. Heck, I have a revamped Ontra (hugs her Demyx), and I like how they came out, so I'm gonna love this one... If I could get a couple more pet slots, this would be one of the two I'd pick. Great job all around, guys!
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I love this revamp. The only thing I think is a little off is the kind of elderly feel that it gives.
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Kamil

Keshi did such a wonderful job with this one! I couldn't bear the old ones; but this is so very prettyful. Of course, now I'm going to have to have one, and I so don't have room. *eyes Cash Shop* Mystical Plushies, here I come. xD
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Twi

very loverly!! I would like the eyes more if they were a bit more open... give it more of a friendly look... but overall very very nice! gj Keshi!
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Head-to-body ratio is a little off, but this is such an immense improvement! I love it!
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Naj

I think it looks MUCH better. My only suggestions would be a better head to shell size ratio, its not chibi so the shell looks too small to me compared to the head size. Other than that, I agree with others about the middle gem seeming to push into the shell too much.<br />
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Either way, if I had pet space I'd at least consider the Chelon nowm whereas I never even looked at Turdles
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Sasuke

I like the new one.<br />
kudos to the artist.
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Ceri

The new Chelon is MUCH better than the old one. :/ The old one seems too plain to me.
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Omg this wonderful it is so awsome and not so cutsie like most of the other pets hats off to the artist<br />
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Mod

I agree with others about the middle gem, but overall I love the vamp. Very nice job <img src="http://images.subeta.org/smilies/6398_emoticon_smile.gif" border="0" />
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Slowerthanzero

What are you guys talking about? I love the new look and new name. <img src="http://images.subeta.org/smilies/6398_emoticon_happy.gif" border="0" />
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i hate it.. i hate the name and he looks too mean.. fooey
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User not found:

I like the old one better..it had cute big eyes! the new one is still cool and everything...the new one is just a bit much <img src="http://images.subeta.org/smilies/6398_emoticon_sad.gif" border="0" /> sorry
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actually, this is the first revamp i've preferred over the original in a while. i LIKE the smaller eyes... i'm tired of cutesy pets.
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TheseHeights

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Give it a pointier beak, I think, and it'd be perfect.
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Bellesgirl

I love the new name, but I the the revamp is a bit much. It looks lovely, but the other one was sweet looking with its giant eye. I think a less radical revamp would be perfect.<br />
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Amon

Voted for new, thats suche an approvement. ^^
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WolfieWU

I say do not re-revamp this to please the nit-pickers, It is beautiful as is. =3
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Aurilia

Meh, this one time I actually like the original better.<br />
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PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE do not revamp the Scribble Turdle *_*
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zlombie

I like where this is going, but it's position is too weird... I like the old turdle's position. And I think it might be better with bigger eyes.
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WolfieWU

I love how lumpy it is! And the snapping turtle face! Awww! Kudos to the artist!
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RetroDoll

Not trying to sound rude but your artists are better than before!! I like this revamp. My only CC is to maybe lighten up on the shading on the shell so the gems don't look "sunken".
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Psychedelia

Why must everything be cute ? I like this revamp, the spots on the fins give it a more natural look. Wouldn't the face ... beak thing ... perhaps need a bit more of a point to it, and maybe make the back flippers a bit longer ? Overall, well done. Don't cute it up.
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Wow. Turdles have been in great need of a revamp and this is gorgeous, but I agree about the gems looking sunk in. Also, I like Turdle better than Chelon xC but, change is hard for me. I'll get used to it. (still havn't gotten used to ontra). This is so far the only revamp I've actually liked. Terrific artwork!
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VINYL

Ooo.<br />
I love the new revamp,<br />
but...<br />
I don't think I could vote.<br />
It's just lost it's cuteness.<br />
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The name change is fine though,<br />
it is more original. xP
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Akutare

I dig it. Yet, do have the same problem with just about everyone else: the gems look sunk in. x___x<br />
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And, if anyone is wondering where the name comes from... It's from the crown group, or, current living ancestor of ancient turtles, which is called 'Chelonia'.
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Barracuda_651

Wow.<br />
This is changing my opinion about this species ENTIRELY. Definitely going to get one when they're revamped. <img src="http://images.subeta.org/smilies/6398_emoticon_smile.gif" border="0" />
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Strix

Absolutely beautiful!<br />
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The new name makes me laugh tho. Chelon sounds like "Shell on" to me <img src="http://images.subeta.org/smilies/6398_emoticon_grin.gif" border="0" />
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lull

wow O_O gorgeous! fantastic job <img src="http://images.subeta.org/smilies/6398_emoticon_happy.gif" border="0" />
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Magicstar

Wow! Nice revamp! The Turdle/Chelon looks more alive now. Kudos to the artist.<br />
The name change is nice but it will take me a while to get used to it, like the Ontra.
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Mackenzi

Larger gems definately. And the name doesn't seem terribly... fantasmic, but that's not as important. The art is great and I think it will really work out. Can't wait to see a dawn version- pink and orange will look stuning on the new Chelons.
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Bastit

I would like TO* know. =^^=
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Bastit

Love the new name and the revamp!<br />
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- May be a little bigger back legs.<br />
- The gems looks funny... like sunked in the shell.<br />
- It can be a little more happier? In other way the change it's too drastic for all Turdle owners... =<img src="http://images.subeta.org/smilies/6398_emoticon_happy.gif" border="0" />=UUU<br />
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I would like yo know where the new name came from.<br />
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Kiss!
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Amazing! The name and art is so coool. Chelon! Now I'm gonna get a Chelon. <img src="http://images.subeta.org/smilies/6398_emoticon_happy.gif" border="0" />
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MEAT

hehe they look like rupees...<br />
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but holy crap this revamp is awesome O: I suggest, tho, making the shading around the middle one a bit smaller so it doesn't look like its going inward too much...but yea other than that it's like holy crap awesome <img src="http://images.subeta.org/smilies/6398_emoticon_heart.gif" border="0" />
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I love the art work. Much more "adult" looking.<br />
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*hugs my turdle* He wants to look like that. <br />
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I love the name Chelon. I would spell it Shellon. XP<br />
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Hugs, Sky
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Trojah

Absolutely lovely! =D<br />
Kudos to the artist! x3
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Suzaku

I didn't like the original Turdle... either the name or the pet itself.<br />
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Now I like it! I strongly approve of the Chelon ^__^
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Charmander

I rather like this revamp, it gives the Chelon much more personality. I do, however, have a similar complaint to many, and that is in line with the jewels. They could probably stand to be a bit bigger, and the jewel in the middle looks as if it's causing the shell to cave in. ^^;<br />
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I'm loving that it looks more like a turtle and finally has a more unique name. Now onto another pet in need of some revamps... *coughs* Charlies *coughcough*
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Jenflower

Aw. The name change makes me a little sad. <img src="http://images.subeta.org/smilies/6398_emoticon_sad.gif" border="0" /> They will always be Turdles to me. <br />
I am in agreement with some of the other comments about the face - it looks a little too harsh and unfriendly.
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Rach_334

Gorgeous. I see nothing wrong with it. <img src="http://images.subeta.org/smilies/6398_emoticon_smile.gif" border="0" /><br />
The name works very well <img src="http://images.subeta.org/smilies/6398_emoticon_happy.gif" border="0" />
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vessel

Beautiful! Absolutely beautiful! Loving the name change as well. Chelon is such a pretty name, it complements the revamp really nicely. <3
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Purpleturtle

To be a sea type turtle, it's shell needs to be a tad flatter. It almost looks like a tortoise shell. Maybe we could have a turtle species and a tortoise species? Otherwise, I like the face and gems in the shell!
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Dagny

Awesome! Props to the artist(s).<br />
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The only thing that bothers me is the face/nose. It's so large rounded that it looks almost ridiculous, and the shading makes it look very flat. I don't think it should stick off the face so much.
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Serenade

I loooove this. XD Omg. NEVER would have though Keshi did it; I thought it was Jag's work until I saw Nestly's post. The only 'iff' I have about it is that the gem in the middle of its shell looks too sunk into it.<br />
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...but who cares? This is totally fantastic. <img src="http://images.subeta.org/smilies/smiley_sadface.gif" border="0" /> *squee*
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Clarity_560

AHAHA. "Chelon" *says with a French accent* 8>
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stan

ZOMG. I smell amazing-ness. XD Subeta pulls another one outta it's hat! I'd have one of these if I could get more pets...or change any of mine. <img src="http://images.subeta.org/smilies/6398_emoticon_raspberry.gif" border="0" /> So cute!
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Capybara

It looks absolutely fabulous! It makes me want a Chelon now.<br />
The thing is,The bulge on the cheek bothers me ,along with bits of the face.
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Rabbit_Insanity

I love how the artists are taking a more realistic approach with some of the pets, instead of a cartoonish version. <br />
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The only problem I have with this desgin, is the stones on the shell look a bit to sunk in. And one of the back flippers is smaller then the other<br />
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Also .... maybe you could try a version where the front legs are longer like a sea turtles?
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Intrigue

I do love the body, but something about its face kind of throws me off.
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Satamoru

In responce to what JrTinapay said <br />
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"Maybe you could also go for a helpless and give it a gargantuan shell with a small body and struggling to carry its shell. It could look more cute this way which is always attractive to younger users."<br />
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I think that would be more appropriate for the Chibi Version, mayhaps?<br />
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Also; this site isn't SUPPOSED to appeal to younger users. It's 13+; it's for older people
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The shell's shading on the top makes it sort of look indented. o-o;
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Cass

I never thought a turtle-pet could look so cool. o__O
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JrTinapay

another thing that came too mind after reading other comments. i dont think it should be so elaborate in the details with the colour. Not everyone can appreciate that. You should move towards more of a cartoony effect.<br />
Afterall simplicity staisfies more people.
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Marine

...wow. The Chelon is.. amazing. @___@ That's really good. I'm actually liking this better then the happy-bubbly Turdle.. xD<br />
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(can we have revamps on the non-revamped Cadogre colors soon, pleaseee? <img src="http://images.subeta.org/smilies/smiley_sadface.gif" border="0" /> Looking at how pets are being revamped lately and all..)
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Raphaela_995

Finally! ^-^ It looks great! I just hope the Bloodred version will look awesome =) I didn't expect a name change, but I like it.
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JrTinapay

SUGGESTION and IDEAS!<br />
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i think it looks old which i dont mind but if most users here kids theyd probably want something more cuter.<br />
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It could be a little rounder, bigger eyes and voila instant cute effect!<br />
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I also think it needs a more original personality. Maybe you can make it look like its splashing up from the sea and turning to see us and give us a smile.<br />
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Maybe you could also go for a helpless and give it a gargantuan shell with a small body and struggling to carry its shell. It could look more cute this way which is always attractive to younger users.<br />
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elf

I love the name change, by the way. <img src="http://images.subeta.org/smilies/6398_emoticon_smile.gif" border="0" /><br />
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Anyway, I don't really like how -old- the new Chelon looks. On the other hand, I love the work on the gems and facial structure of it. The eye change is also a nice change (I like how they now stand out against the blue skin).<br />
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Overall, I'm just with the majority of others on how I'd like to see it look a bit more young and playful like it used to look.
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angelembryo

The biggest thing that bothers me is how the shell is almost vertical, but its face is still facing the viewer almost head-on, making the connection between the head and neck look VERY unnatural. Also, that dark line of shading that acts as a continuous line between the top of the head and the jawline is unnecessary, in my opinion. There are more natural shading methods to distinguish head from neck.<br />
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I also agree that the shell plates are a tad bit too heavily shaded, as are the dark blue spots on the legs and head. It makes them all look too... bubbly?<br />
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And the half-closed, slanted eyes do change the personality and overall impression of the pet quite a bit. Not sure if that's a good thing or not, but it would probably put off a lot of people.
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Nimarai

i like this much *A* i just dont like the nose,but thats my personal thingy xD its so beautiful anyway !
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Paint

Oh gosh this is gorgeous.<br />
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I was just talking to a friend about how it'd be nice if the turdle were revamped! x D er, I mean, Chelon ; D<br />
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Butyeah. huge, massive improvement.<br />
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Just. Make this go through, hurhur |D
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User not found:

Love the name, but it's kinda lost the bright eyed look it had. Now tis kinda...serious? More turtle like? Or is that a good thing?
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judas

am i the only one that gets logged out when i click news page links?
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Gothique

I love this. To me it finally looks more like a real turtle type pet rather than a comic one. I like the way the details just pop out at you. However I do agree that the gems look a bit too 'deep' and the shadows would look better a little lighter. It's almost as if it's under a harsh spotlight.
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User not found:

As a minor suggestion you could always put a border around the plates of the shell (like a regular turtle, they are just scales on regular skin after all) to get rid of that 'sunken in' look that people are talking about. Just a suggestion though. :O Now I'm off to eat so I'll stop being badgery.
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Elementary

I absolutely adore the new look [=" I think the expression is fine the way it is. If it looked too happy it would make it hard for roleplayers to come up with their own personality for it. And, it has the cutest little nose <3<br />
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A tad off topic, but still related to revamps, I cannot wait to see the redone Aerie and redrawn Serpenth. I hope the polls come back soon xD<br />
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User not found:

Finally. It was in desperate need of a revamp.<br />
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It looks very awesome. (Except that the closer fin should be slightly lager then the further fin. Not the other way around.)
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Damon

DAMN now that... is awesome O.O
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User not found:

Finally! <img src="http://images.subeta.org/smilies/6398_emoticon_grin.gif" border="0" /> A much needed revamp, I'd say. And it looks gorgeous too. <img src="http://images.subeta.org/smilies/6398_emoticon_heart.gif" border="0" />
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User not found:

I thought the spots were scales, and supposed to be raised and bumpy looking? Like a regular sea turtle.
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User not found:

i like it <3<br />
its cute.
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LizBlackDog

That's lovely, lovely work. My compliments to the artist.
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Luxe

I voted new, BUT! I have one small critique. I think the spots need less shading because right now they look raised, like moles, rather than just freckles.<br />
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The name is love. How did you come up with it?
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CLICHE

I really like this <img src="http://images.subeta.org/smilies/6398_emoticon_smile.gif" border="0" />
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User not found:

I agree with most about the shell shading. The shading is a bit too dramatic. Perhaps lighten the shading, it won't look so bumpy.
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lurk

<b>Quote:</b><blockquote style="padding:5px; line-height:15px; background-color: #FAFFFF; border: 1px solid #000000; font-family: georgia; font-size: 10;">he only odd thing I find on it is the center gem on the Chelon's shell--it looks somewhat like its weighing in on the shell. I'm not sure how to explain it, but as if the shell was squishy like a cushion, and the gem was placed on top and sunk in somewhat.</blockquote><br />
I agree completely. I think it looks like the shell is sagging in the middle, something which I don't particularly like.<br />
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Overall, love the revamp! I'd love for the head to be a little higher though, like on the original.
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Lexiana

I really like the revamp, but I must say, I prefer the pose of the old one. The new one seems a little off, being so headstand-y.
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User not found:

I was wondering if this name was ever going to change. Although it is a funny name, just not pet-like. I LOVE the revamp. So much better than the original.
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Sheylore

Cool. Does anyone know when the revamped Aerie and Serpenths will come into effect? I really want those pets.
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Nestly

<strong>Nestly:</strong> YES. No more turd! xD<br />
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This is amazing <a href="/redirect.php?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.subeta.org%2Fusers%2FKeshi" target="_new">Keshi</a>, and I can't wait to see the special colors for it. <3
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Xuanmeng

I can't say it isn't a huge leap in the right direction, but something about the revamp just looks... off, somehow. Maybe it's the shell - I think the perspective on it looks less oblique than the rest of the body - not to mention the severity of the shading makes it look like it'd be incredibly lumpy, whereas a sea turtle's ought to be more streamlined.
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justin_576

I prefer the older image opposed to the new one. The pattern on the shell on the new one doesn't seem very appealing to me. I like the gems, but the crevices seem too deep and I prefer the soccerball-like pattern rather than the new one. I also am not a fan of the things around the shell. I don't know why, but it just doesn't look too nice to me. :/ I do like the face on the new one, however. I think it fits with the newer style that Subeta seems to be making. My last problem with the pet is that it looks very old. Perhaps that was the intent, but I like a younger looking pet, but I guess that's what the Chibi potion is for. <img src="http://images.subeta.org/smilies/6398_emoticon_smile.gif" border="0" />
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User not found:

Oh, one other small thing. The jaw on the face looks a little um...wonky? It's just out of proportion. The left and right cheek don't match up properly, and if the face were turned or centered, the jaw wouldn't align right. Might just be me noticing that, though. Besides that, it looks very nice.
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User not found:

I actually really like it's face. I think it still looks friendly., but in less of a "lol let's go watch barney and play legos!!!11" way.
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Kiarae

But Turdle is easier to spell! *pouts* I do like the revamp though, but I miss the cute appeal it had. That seems to have been taken away with the revamp. Still, beautiful art.
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amanda_eithne

omfg!!! its amazing (the revamp) <3 though the name is not xD
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Moonbeam

Hmm...not sure if I like the name change OR the revamp.<br />
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skywarrior17

Not too bad at all, The only thing is I really don't like is the angle, it's like he's balancing on his chin. I'd prefer a less dynamic tilt, tho not a full side. I also agree that something about the face could change, but overall very nice!
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User not found:

Overall very nice. The perspective on the shell seems a bit off for the way it's leaning, but other than that, excellent.
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horizon

I agree it's too mean looking and I dunno, it looks ugly to me (not the drawing cause it is well done, but the animal itself). Plus I have a girl turdle and this revamp is just too masculine looking to fit it. Please make it smiling!
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Aurora

Amazing... The revamp is absolutely beautiful--quite an improvement. The only odd thing I find on it is the center gem on the Chelon's shell--it looks somewhat like its weighing in on the shell. I'm not sure how to explain it, but as if the shell was squishy like a cushion, and the gem was placed on top and sunk in somewhat. Perhaps that's just my eyes, however. The revamp is still wonderful, and I love addition of the scales and the extra plates of the shell around the outside of it. It reminds my of my water turtle somewhat. =)
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Becky_887

Can there be a middle ground?<br />
Props to the artist, it's amazing. But the other one seemed sweet, and this one looks mischievous. <br />
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But that's my only complaint.<br />
I love it. <img src="http://images.subeta.org/smilies/6398_emoticon_smile.gif" border="0" />
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Rayen

I love it, but maybe make the smile bigger? Yet another Elixir I hoard, just in case.
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Nekomancer

I really love this. This is a beautiful revamp. But maybe you could spruce up the shell a bit by making the jewels a little larger; the shell looks a little plain to me. :/
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User not found:

I like him! A friendlier face would be nice though <img src="http://images.subeta.org/smilies/6398_emoticon_smile.gif" border="0" />
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Aicona

OMGOMGOMG I love it. I find it actually is smiling. The only thing I dont like is the line above the nose/where snout and face come together.
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Jinjah

I voted for the revamp, although I think the eyes of the new one could drawn with more appeal, rather than being so authentic....same for the mouth....a bit of a grin would be better.
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Tropicandy

-wonders why polls only occur with things with obvious outcomes-<br />
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Why not poll when its for a specific Color like blood or reborns.
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Bagheera23608

I LOVE his shell, flipper details and new name, but his face looks too mean? It doesn't look friendly or docile or maybe even wise which is what I think when I think of Tur, sorry, Chelons. (Much better name!) Overall awesome tho!
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MistyLadybug

I agree with any/everyone saying that it needs a happier expression. The old one looked so cute, and this one looks like it's about to pull a trick on me, or something x3
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User not found:

Aaah D= Sexy revamp, but I like the unoriginal name of Turdle. I also liked the Otter better than the Ontra xD
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User not found:

That is gorgeous. I'm usually not a big fan of the super dramatic revamps, but this is seriously the most awesome and majestic looking turtle I have ever seen.
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NyctiCorax

Can't see what you mean with the flipper. But I think the nose/snout is odd. It's just a little too big (yeah, I thought that of the old one too).
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James

Finally, a great revamp. Unlike those others.
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User not found:

New Chelon is <3
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Orchipea

Wow, massive revamp... yet I still like it, lol <img src="http://images.subeta.org/smilies/6398_emoticon_raspberry.gif" border="0" />
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vienna_153

Oh my.<br />
I love this one. <img src="http://images.subeta.org/smilies/6398_emoticon_shocked.gif" border="0" />
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Tazzie

I really love the new name, but the old one was looking so happy and this one looks really serious. But I like it <img src="http://images.subeta.org/smilies/6398_emoticon_smile.gif" border="0" /> Props the artist
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Naila

OH WOW i can believe how this one looks great!I love it would defenitly have one if they come out spectrum!
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Hallesey

The artwork is very well done, but I am afraid I still prefer the Turdle as it seems to have a happier and more fun-loving face. Sorry folks this is just my opinion.
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Warlocked

This. Is. Amazing.<br />
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Ah, guys! <img src="http://images.subeta.org/smilies/smiley_sadface.gif" border="0" /> You've outdone yourself, artist! (I'm not sure who drew it.. usually I can make a good guess. -shame-) I love the smile. C;
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User not found:

It's a great revamp. It's details match well with those of many of the other pets.
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Magda

i love it and the name revamp as well
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Foxel

AWSOME~ Love the name, love the art! :3<br />
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HUUUUGE props to the artist who drew this! ;3
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DundalkChild

Ohhh, lovely. Maybe I'll get one <img src="http://images.subeta.org/smilies/6398_emoticon_smile.gif" border="0" />
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Reykur

now imagine how pretty that new version will look in glacier xD<br />
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The pet really needed a revamp <img src="http://images.subeta.org/smilies/6398_emoticon_smile.gif" border="0" />
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September

I love the revamp. This might make me want one... lol. <br /> One small suggestion, however... the old turdle looks more happy/friendly. Maybe opening up the eye a bit would make this one look less like it's got mischievous eyes?
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User not found:

Wow, props to the artist, this is one fine turdle! <img src="http://images.subeta.org/smilies/6398_emoticon_smile.gif" border="0" />
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honey_bear

but...but....but the other looked so happy!
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Midnight_916

Wow, nice name! But the spots make it look really old :/
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User not found:

Much better detail indeed.
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Tammy

aww I like the old one, then again I like cute vs mean looking pets, this one just gives me a mean vibe
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User not found:

this is hawt.
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User not found:

I love the new name and revamp. =D It's so adorable and so detailed. ^__^
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MikiDaCrow

I really do like this, and if I may make a suggestion, a galactic version of this needs to take a page from Terry Pratchett's Diskworld series. The turtle moves!
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User not found:

I like it much better. Now both the name and the design are a whole lot more original :3
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cinna

I absolutely love this.<br />
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The only thing that might be wronng with it that I see is that the flipper on its right looks a bit odd, where it connects to the body.
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