The Plushie Parlour has phased out its old dragon plushies, and is celebrating the new version by releasing three brand new colors with them!
Posted by DNA_558
Revel
I've seen the old versions to and they were nice but I love the re-vamped ones so much more. They did have a great style and personality that changed but it didn't change into something bleak, it was replaced by a different but equal personality.
Admittably, the new plushies -are- better than the old ones. I think they'd be better with whiskers, though.
I don't ever comment on stuff in the news. But i just wanted to say that in my opinion i actually love the look of these new dragon plushies much more then the old version. So great job to the artist.
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I personally am glad the dragon got its well-deserved revamp. Yes I Originally Chose The Dragon species on this site when I first began playing. Yes I adored them, But all in all the Revamp Made my day. I started this site owning a dragon and I'll keep owning them. If say the staff did give in to yet Another revamp..the staff would Always have to rethink re-draw on every little detail. Ofcoarse opinions are going to be voiced, But please don't drag every "previous dragon owner" into them <img src=http://www.subeta.org/images/smilies/6398_emoticon_sigh.gif border=0>.
I know a lot of people were asking for the whiskers back. Some didn't like the wings, and some wanted more scales (I wanted the dark coloring around the eyes, I really liked the dark coloring around the eyes) but most were complaining about whiskers.
I really dislike the "Some of you were talking, so everyone has to stay after class." attitude I see... But, I hate to discuss too deeply in comments, where things are so transitory. Is there an ongoing forum discussion? (I can never navigate around the forums myself... Takes too long to load and no back button...)
But, in short, yeah DNA, it stinks that some people can be insensitive and unreasonable. But I remember the revamp decently, and I disagree with you on the "minority" factor and the fact that no one at all was helpful. If you expected 100% approval/disapproval/ or agreement on a reasonable change... You said so yourself, such can never happen.
But, in short, yeah DNA, it stinks that some people can be insensitive and unreasonable. But I remember the revamp decently, and I disagree with you on the "minority" factor and the fact that no one at all was helpful. If you expected 100% approval/disapproval/ or agreement on a reasonable change... You said so yourself, such can never happen.
Neocolors is a minority. Even if every single member on that forum protested something..it would still not even begin to scratch the surface of Subeta's entire membership.
<br />And if you can't take my word of what Keith has told me--the <i>head</i> of this department--then there is nothing else I can say but go ahead and take it up with Keith. I assure you that it will not be changing anything, however, as this revamp is final.
<br />And if you can't take my word of what Keith has told me--the <i>head</i> of this department--then there is nothing else I can say but go ahead and take it up with Keith. I assure you that it will not be changing anything, however, as this revamp is final.
what i don't understand is why the dragon seemed to be the exception to the recent trend of revamp feedback polls followed by revamps that mirror the users' comments and critiques.
i understand that not everyone likes the new tigrean, terracoon, or velosotor - but none of the drama surrounded them that has surrounded the dragon revamp. i believe this is largely due to the fact that the essence of these pets were kept intact and a great deal of effort was put forth by the artists to maintain their character. taking a stance saying, "like it or leave it," isn't going to change the fact that the dragon revamp was done, largely, against the will of the populace who was given no voice in the matter. keith stated we would be granted a compromise. i see no compromise in stating "it is staying as it is."
i understand that not everyone likes the new tigrean, terracoon, or velosotor - but none of the drama surrounded them that has surrounded the dragon revamp. i believe this is largely due to the fact that the essence of these pets were kept intact and a great deal of effort was put forth by the artists to maintain their character. taking a stance saying, "like it or leave it," isn't going to change the fact that the dragon revamp was done, largely, against the will of the populace who was given no voice in the matter. keith stated we would be granted a compromise. i see no compromise in stating "it is staying as it is."
There was no poll, how do you know your numbers were completely accurate?<br /><br />
If you're going to tout minority/majority, we might as well see some official numbers, other than a general "hundreds and thousands".<br /><br />
If I recall correctly, I know at least NC had plenty of feedback on the issue (of course, not on the site directly and that probably won't count, but I know many staff who lurk there regardless), including great tips as simple as "bring the whiskers back." A few members even drew great examples of what a compromise might look like. Once Keith suggested a compromise re-revamp would happen (and we kept up with him and he continuously said it was in the works), we were satisfied and very hopeful staff would come up with a great one. Like I said, it just sucks that we weren't listened to in the slightest, even though we were assured we definitely were.
If you're going to tout minority/majority, we might as well see some official numbers, other than a general "hundreds and thousands".<br /><br />
If I recall correctly, I know at least NC had plenty of feedback on the issue (of course, not on the site directly and that probably won't count, but I know many staff who lurk there regardless), including great tips as simple as "bring the whiskers back." A few members even drew great examples of what a compromise might look like. Once Keith suggested a compromise re-revamp would happen (and we kept up with him and he continuously said it was in the works), we were satisfied and very hopeful staff would come up with a great one. Like I said, it just sucks that we weren't listened to in the slightest, even though we were assured we definitely were.
Unfortunately, Vari--you're wrong. A minority -did-. Regardless of how vocal they were, we're talking hundreds--if not thousands-- of people in favor, as opposed to a handful of people loudly protesting, which happens with almost everything we change.
<br /><br />And unfortunately, majority gets the vote at the end of the day.
<br /><br />In addition--you have no idea of what has gone on behind the scenes concerning this dragon. We have yet to hear anything other than "bring the old one back", which is an argument we get with <b>every revamp we ever put through</b>, and it is simply not going to happen. We were willing to compromise, And I -personally- tried asking for opinions on what needed work. <i>You</i>, the users who put forth the arguments, were not willing to settle. Therefore...it is staying as it is.
<br /><br />And unfortunately, majority gets the vote at the end of the day.
<br /><br />In addition--you have no idea of what has gone on behind the scenes concerning this dragon. We have yet to hear anything other than "bring the old one back", which is an argument we get with <b>every revamp we ever put through</b>, and it is simply not going to happen. We were willing to compromise, And I -personally- tried asking for opinions on what needed work. <i>You</i>, the users who put forth the arguments, were not willing to settle. Therefore...it is staying as it is.
I love the new design personally, it sets apart the paralix as a truly eastern versus the dragon thats a truly western breed.
Sheesh, some folks are too sensitive. xD
~Kai
Sheesh, some folks are too sensitive. xD
~Kai
The "Don't get a Dragon" stance really has little bearing here. People who already HAD a Dragon got screwed over. The Dragon is a COMPLETLY different pet in looks and feel then the old one, the one people created because they liked at the time.
When the Angelic Dragon is revamped to more resemble this new version, I'm out a pet and an expensive paint job. I can't say 100% that I will hate it, but going by all I've seen of the Dragon art so far, its pretty much guranteed.
And, yes, Keith stated clearly that they were going to be working on a compromise. They didn't know when it was going to be done, but he said they were going to do one.
When the Angelic Dragon is revamped to more resemble this new version, I'm out a pet and an expensive paint job. I can't say 100% that I will hate it, but going by all I've seen of the Dragon art so far, its pretty much guranteed.
And, yes, Keith stated clearly that they were going to be working on a compromise. They didn't know when it was going to be done, but he said they were going to do one.
They are amazingly cute! <img src=http://www.subeta.org/images/smilies/6398_emoticon_grin.gif border=0> looks at Dragon plushie
I think a lot of the drama over the dragon went down because of the "considered" compromise...
Dokuja - I don't think you realize that the people who are the most offended by this situation are ones who already own Dragons, not would-be owners.<br /><br />
A minority didn't dislike it. If I remember correctly, there were TONS of people who objected to the new attitude of the new dragon (that wasn't polled at all). Since that drama went down, you guys have been doing fantastically at listening to user feedback and doing polls for new redraws. I'm just extremely, extremely sad that our compromise Dragon - which I had high hopes for - to be suddenly dismissed and staff go, "lol sorry, but we don't want to."
A minority didn't dislike it. If I remember correctly, there were TONS of people who objected to the new attitude of the new dragon (that wasn't polled at all). Since that drama went down, you guys have been doing fantastically at listening to user feedback and doing polls for new redraws. I'm just extremely, extremely sad that our compromise Dragon - which I had high hopes for - to be suddenly dismissed and staff go, "lol sorry, but we don't want to."
Very nice plushies! I like them! <img src=http://www.subeta.org/images/smilies/6398_emoticon_smile.gif border=0>
Well, I'd say for some of us the difficult part was having to change a pet we loved into something else. I know I wasn't too happy about having to pick another pet to turn Lorek into. I can't say I'm entirely fond of the choice I had to make either, but I could not keep him as a dragon.
no varicolored, Keith said he's consider a compromise. There was no promise of a change.<br />
I don't like it just as much as you, but we HAVE to deal with it. Whatever they say goes.
I don't like it just as much as you, but we HAVE to deal with it. Whatever they say goes.
As I've said a thousand times, we unfortunately can't please everyone (and I say this sincerely--if anyone wanted to make -everybody- happy it's me, but I'm learning to live with the fact that It Just Isn't Possible). <br />Obviously some people will dislike the new version just because they liked the old one.
<br />However, we succeded at what we were aiming for with the revamp. Why on Earth would we change it -again-, completely, because a minority dislikes it? Things don't work like that.
<br />However, we succeded at what we were aiming for with the revamp. Why on Earth would we change it -again-, completely, because a minority dislikes it? Things don't work like that.
I really struggle to see what's so difficult about simply... not getting a pet if you don't like it. Why does everyone have to like every pet in order for it to be acceptable to them?
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The Dragon was revamped. Feedback was mixed, and a further revamp was <i>considered</i>. It didn't happen. That's life, folks - you won't get what <i>you</i> want all the time. The Dragon has since soared in popularity, just looking at the pet stats - <i>someone</i> obviously does like them.
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The Dragon was revamped. Feedback was mixed, and a further revamp was <i>considered</i>. It didn't happen. That's life, folks - you won't get what <i>you</i> want all the time. The Dragon has since soared in popularity, just looking at the pet stats - <i>someone</i> obviously does like them.
But we were promised - by Keith himself - that we would get a re-revamp. I just find it disappointing that we would all find out that this hope was jerked away from the old-dragon-fans by some sort of stabbing newspost of "these things are here to stay, get over it."
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AWESOME!! Theh cuteness! I want to cuddle them. <img src=http://www.subeta.org/images/smilies/6398_emoticon_grin.gif border=0>
DNA, I'm very sad to hear that. I hate the new dragon (I never had or cared for them before, I simply strongly dislike the shading, the pose, and the message behind the complete change in personality) Last I heard was from Keith that a compromise was still being reached, but with these plushies... I guess that is out the window. Meh. Very disapointing.
If you don't like it, don't get a dragon. That simple.
If you take it as a "jab" at you that we're continuing on with something we've made obvious is here to stay, then that is your problem and your problem alone.
<br />You can either sit and take offense at something that has nothing to do with you personally, or go "ah well, I don't like it/it's not for me" and get on with your life.
<br /><br />Honestly? The only thing crappy here is your attitude.
If you take it as a "jab" at you that we're continuing on with something we've made obvious is here to stay, then that is your problem and your problem alone.
<br />You can either sit and take offense at something that has nothing to do with you personally, or go "ah well, I don't like it/it's not for me" and get on with your life.
<br /><br />Honestly? The only thing crappy here is your attitude.
This ... sucks. Another jab at us for disliking the crappy dragon revamp that we were promised would be re-revamped into something more acceptable.
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Great I can't wait to see the darkmatter Dragon in its new awesome form xD. already got one waiting to be revamped. <img src=http://www.subeta.org/images/smilies/6398_emoticon_raspberry.gif border=0> and one with a certain potion awaiting its arrival <img src=http://www.subeta.org/images/smilies/6398_emoticon_grin.gif border=0>. Also Kudos to the artists for their work, recent changes have been unbelievable. <img src=http://www.subeta.org/images/smilies/6398_emoticon_happy.gif border=0>
The DM dragon will be revamped very shortly, yes. <img src=http://www.subeta.org/images/smilies/6398_emoticon_smile.gif border=0>
The other colour is Marsh. <img src=http://www.subeta.org/images/smilies/6398_emoticon_raspberry.gif border=0>
Does this mean the DM Dragon will get revamped soon? I hope it'll look cool when it does! =D
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"new colors are nuclear, dark matter and?? anyone know?" ..Try this again -sigh- Darkmatter has been out, it's been in my gallery since back in the day. lol Other than the nuclear, however I would also like to know what "new" colors they are in, as I'm in need of them as well.
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*even |D -can't spell- I love the Common, Field, and Arid plushies now that I've seen them all. o-o These almost as cute as the Archan plushies. ^__^
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Aww hugs plushies Wow it's really been a busy week lately. The artist have been working like mad, I must give them credit where credit is due. Excellent job artist, keep 'em coming, you're doing an awesome job.
Eve though I don't like Dragons other than Angelic, these are all adorable. o___o -wants them all-
Seerow-- because it's not. <img src=http://www.subeta.org/images/smilies/6398_emoticon_smile.gif border=0>
I luv 'em to bits!! <img src=http://www.subeta.org/images/smilies/6398_emoticon_grin.gif border=0> Can't wait to add them to my dragon collection
Wasn't the Dragon going to be getting another revamp? I know it was mentioned. So why are they making new plushies if the Dragon is supposed be getting changed again?
Deo's been a busy busy chimera I see. They look quite squishy <img src=http://www.subeta.org/images/smilies/6398_emoticon_grin.gif border=0>
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The darkmatter one is so cute ! -
They look more like minions than plushies. -still misses the old dragon and the old plushes- They are nicely drawn, though.
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Oops, half of my post got cut off. Anyways, thanks, they're adorable! <img src=http://www.subeta.org/images/smilies/6398_emoticon_smile.gif border=0>
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I just the cutest twilight Dragon Plushie from Cursed Quests!
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These little guys are adorable! Kudos to the artist!