This is my happy face.
After extensive grooming, the new Mortikings are now ready to go to a loving home. They're even available in the stunning Nuclear and Marsh varieties! While they are house broken, a large back yard is recommended and contrary to popular belief, they will get along with your Bovynes and Devonties every bit as well as they'll get along with your Velosotors.
...which is to say, not at all, but the stuffy people at the Mortiking Society wouldn't let us tell you that. :x Oh, my gracious! Was that out loud? My lawyer's going to have fun trying to get me out of this mess...
Posted by Luxe
Overall, these mortikings look really nice. :3 I haven't been on subeta in a while and didn't get to comment when the revamp was released, but there's just one thing that bothers me a bit for the revamp.
The highlighting is kind of... over done. I mean, I'm all for trying to make it look like it has the kind of scaly reptilian skin, but I believe there's just too much highlighting.
Especially on the right foot (left to us). The highlights along the shadows of the skin distract from the shading.
Another thing about the highlighting is that it looks like someone got a little "dot-happy" on the... bicep, is it? i haven't taken anatomy and physiology yet so i can't really say for suuuuure x: but, anyway... If you took about three of those dots away and added a couple bigger (not much bigger, though) ones, it would look more balanced in my opinion.
The highlighting is kind of... over done. I mean, I'm all for trying to make it look like it has the kind of scaly reptilian skin, but I believe there's just too much highlighting.
Especially on the right foot (left to us). The highlights along the shadows of the skin distract from the shading.
Another thing about the highlighting is that it looks like someone got a little "dot-happy" on the... bicep, is it? i haven't taken anatomy and physiology yet so i can't really say for suuuuure x: but, anyway... If you took about three of those dots away and added a couple bigger (not much bigger, though) ones, it would look more balanced in my opinion.
Note to those who are worrying about the tail: It's a practice in perspective. If you follow the highlights and shadows, you can see that the tail is not curving up just behind the Mortiking, but in the distance. It's easiest to see on the common Mortiking, but it's not that difficult to see in the other colors.
Hmm, the face still looks a little bulky, but the expression is quite improved. Instead of saying "I'm old and tired... um... rawr...", it actually looks more like you'd expect a fearsome saurian to. Though not perfect, it's close, and I no longer have any issues with it.
I think the highlights could have been more dynamic instead of what seems to be a transparent white layer. It really makes that swamp one there look unnatural.
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Oh no...
The revamp won.
DX
The revamp won.
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The tail looks off to me... and I agree with Varicolored, the snarl DOES look half-assed. And the claws are still.. awkward.
But the less-fat look is good. ^^ I have rather mixed feelings for it.
But the less-fat look is good. ^^ I have rather mixed feelings for it.
Well I'm so happy ya'll went ahead with this guy. I love him! And I don't know why but the Marsh colors just look good on all the pets!
Great job! It really does look like a Mortiking now. <3
Wow, people. Could you get any ruder? Instead of calling it garbage, why don't you at least try to explain (in a mature manner) why it looks like garbage to you? That is in no way constructive criticism - you're just insulting the artists. Ha ha... dorks. :3
Wow, people. Could you get any ruder? Instead of calling it garbage, why don't you at least try to explain (in a mature manner) why it looks like garbage to you? That is in no way constructive criticism - you're just insulting the artists. Ha ha... dorks. :3
I like most of the changes. Still the high quality expected of all Subeta's pets. The anatomy of the shoulder and arm are much improved, and I didn't even think they needed to be improved on, to give a more muscular instead of fat look. Changes to the neck and jaw give it a much better flow and gets rid of the pin head effect. The little v between the pecks and tuck to the stomach gives it a longer line through the body and again makes it look more muscular instead of pudgy. Spines now going in the same direction makes the fin look much more attached to the body.
On the other hand. I don't get the tail. You have a massive tail coming out of the body but in a very small space it ends it a tiny tip. Before it looked liked it had a whole body length of tail that tapered down to make it proportionate to the big, heavy body. Now it looks like a massive tail has been chopped in half and the tip is glued onto the broken off large section. I know people wanted the tail tip but couldn't it somehow of just peeked out the other side instead? If that wasn't possible maybe redrawing the whole tail would have been better. This is the only time I have seen such a large anatomical problem go through with a finished revamp that couldn't have been played off of the animal not being "real". Every time I see a Mortiking now I will notice the tail being off. Sorry to be harsh, it’s not usually my style to be like this about a revamp, but that tail really bothers me.
On the other hand. I don't get the tail. You have a massive tail coming out of the body but in a very small space it ends it a tiny tip. Before it looked liked it had a whole body length of tail that tapered down to make it proportionate to the big, heavy body. Now it looks like a massive tail has been chopped in half and the tip is glued onto the broken off large section. I know people wanted the tail tip but couldn't it somehow of just peeked out the other side instead? If that wasn't possible maybe redrawing the whole tail would have been better. This is the only time I have seen such a large anatomical problem go through with a finished revamp that couldn't have been played off of the animal not being "real". Every time I see a Mortiking now I will notice the tail being off. Sorry to be harsh, it’s not usually my style to be like this about a revamp, but that tail really bothers me.
Hmm . . . I'm not sure I like the new Mortiking. It looks . . . how can I put this? More fat than muscley.
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Was there really a large enough majority to justify changing it? :<
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Scary x.X
What I don't like about the snarl is that it looks so.. chihuahua/pomeranian.
He doesn't look angry or fierce. And he's a dinosaur, so you'd think his mouth would be bigger.
But I love the coloring.
The detail is really nice~
He doesn't look angry or fierce. And he's a dinosaur, so you'd think his mouth would be bigger.
But I love the coloring.
The detail is really nice~
Thieves. XD
I have a bag with Eeyore on it that says, "This is my happy face."
Nice revamp, regardless. I love how these actually have texture to them.
I have a bag with Eeyore on it that says, "This is my happy face."
Nice revamp, regardless. I love how these actually have texture to them.
Now THAT is a Mortiking revamp! Nice work!
And it's finally in Nuclear, too. Yayness.! <img src="http://images.subeta.net/smilies/6398_emoticon_grin.gif" border="0" />
"This is my happy face." My mom loves that joke. XD
And it's finally in Nuclear, too. Yayness.! <img src="http://images.subeta.net/smilies/6398_emoticon_grin.gif" border="0" />
"This is my happy face." My mom loves that joke. XD
Wow! Those are both awesome! I am seriously going to consider changing one of my pets to one of those!!! <img src="http://images.subeta.net/smilies/6398_emoticon_smile.gif" border="0" />
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Shibari, it doesn't work both ways. That's just absurd. If you're completely happy with something and wouldn't change a thing, are you supposed to stay silent? If people DON'T speak up for what they like, that's when things go back to drawing board, because our goal is to please as many people as we can.
I'm not insulted at all. I was simply trying to explain why if someone truly feels like nothing can be improved upon, that's useful to us as well. I see your point, I just feel differently.
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I like this one even better. The shadowing just makes it one hugh muscular thing. I like how more teeth are showing. The graveyard one still rocks me!!
Luxe, you took what I said as an insult. What I'm trying to say is that if you want constructive criticism, where people put exactly what they don't like about the art, then the positive feedback should be exactly the same. Going, I LOVE IT offers no benefit to you, either. It works both ways.
wonderful work dna <img src="http://images.subeta.net/smilies/6398_emoticon_grin.gif" border="0" />
When I'm bored, I don't snarl, honestly. The eye-mouth muscular coordination is indeed, an agressive / I'm-a-gonna-bite-your-face-a-off thing.
Wow - I love them! And my darling will love them more, that's for sure! <img src="http://images.subeta.net/smilies/6398_emoticon_smile.gif" border="0" />
goes to tell it to Edge ^_____^
Awesome work! <img src="http://images.subeta.net/smilies/6398_emoticon_grin.gif" border="0" />
goes to tell it to Edge ^_____^
Awesome work! <img src="http://images.subeta.net/smilies/6398_emoticon_grin.gif" border="0" />
<b>Quote By varicolored:</b><blockquote style="padding:5px; line-height:15px; background-color: #FAFFFF; border: 1px solid #000000; font-family: georgia; font-size: 10;">Whoa, whoa. When did I say the piece itself was half-assed? I called the snarl half-assed - as in, the Mortiking looks bored, not fierce.
If you guys want to get offended over something, I suggest you pick a better thing to try and get your panties in a wad over. </blockquote>No one <i>wants</i> to be offended, I assure you. One didn't have to look very far to see that was ill-worded. However, I can easily admit to misunderstanding your intentions as I now see what you meant, if perhaps you will admit that a bit of tact might have prevented this entire thing. <img src="http://images.subeta.net/smilies/6398_emoticon_smile.gif" border="0" />
If you guys want to get offended over something, I suggest you pick a better thing to try and get your panties in a wad over. </blockquote>No one <i>wants</i> to be offended, I assure you. One didn't have to look very far to see that was ill-worded. However, I can easily admit to misunderstanding your intentions as I now see what you meant, if perhaps you will admit that a bit of tact might have prevented this entire thing. <img src="http://images.subeta.net/smilies/6398_emoticon_smile.gif" border="0" />
No need to apologise, Mod--I got what you're saying, really. <img src="http://images.subeta.net/smilies/6398_emoticon_smile.gif" border="0" />
Just bear in mind that this mortiking was based on the original design; personally, the lower jaw (or lack thereof) on them drives me mad, as I'm used to drawing proper reptiles with proper mouths.
However, for the sake of updating the old design instead of changing it into something different, I opted to leave it the way it was, in the assumption that it was part of the intended design instead of an anatomical error.
Just bear in mind that this mortiking was based on the original design; personally, the lower jaw (or lack thereof) on them drives me mad, as I'm used to drawing proper reptiles with proper mouths.
However, for the sake of updating the old design instead of changing it into something different, I opted to leave it the way it was, in the assumption that it was part of the intended design instead of an anatomical error.
Whoo, I should have read through the comments first. Feel free to ignore what I said, since I don't want to be in your little hissy fit. :S
<b>Quote:</b><blockquote style="padding:5px; line-height:15px; background-color: #FAFFFF; border: 1px solid #000000; font-family: georgia; font-size: 10;">That opinion offers no critique as well. If you're going to bicker with the people who doesn't offer any constructive criticism, then it goes with the supporters as well.</blockquote>
Well excuse me for having an opinion. Jesus.
Well excuse me for having an opinion. Jesus.
It's not that we're only looking for praise at this point, but it helps us to improve if we get <strong>constructive</strong> feedback from those who are unhappy, Shibari. If someone is happy with our work, it is the only way we can gauge our success. Constructive criticism helps us every bit as much as positive feedback in this line of work.
It doesn't need to be kittens and rainbows whenever a pet is revamped, but neither does it need to be full of tactless feedback and insults. It does nothing to help me, nor the artists, to hear that their work is half-assed or looks like garbage. If you truly want to see better art on Subeta, you will channel feedback in ways we can use. If not, then unfortunately you will have to be content to just insult our work and wonder why your opinions aren't heeded, while we move on to feedback that can actually be of use to us.
It doesn't need to be kittens and rainbows whenever a pet is revamped, but neither does it need to be full of tactless feedback and insults. It does nothing to help me, nor the artists, to hear that their work is half-assed or looks like garbage. If you truly want to see better art on Subeta, you will channel feedback in ways we can use. If not, then unfortunately you will have to be content to just insult our work and wonder why your opinions aren't heeded, while we move on to feedback that can actually be of use to us.
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Me and my friend are talking over another site. And we both agree, the mouth is still off on this version.
I for one, don't see how a bottom jaw can exist on this mortiking. Its far too small for their to be room for the bone. It would be gum then skin pretty much. Its teeth are just far too big for its mouth.
Then my friend, being an sorta expert on lizards, says that in most of them, they lack more than an "Up-down" mouth movement. Even though its a fantasy creature, it should still abide by our laws for it to be physically possible. Also, shes said "the corner of its mouth should be back by its eye".
I do apologize for such a poorley structured critique, but i feel its the only thing that truly needs addressing.
(Actually, looking at the older revamp- the jaw was /larger/ on that one o_o")
I for one, don't see how a bottom jaw can exist on this mortiking. Its far too small for their to be room for the bone. It would be gum then skin pretty much. Its teeth are just far too big for its mouth.
Then my friend, being an sorta expert on lizards, says that in most of them, they lack more than an "Up-down" mouth movement. Even though its a fantasy creature, it should still abide by our laws for it to be physically possible. Also, shes said "the corner of its mouth should be back by its eye".
I do apologize for such a poorley structured critique, but i feel its the only thing that truly needs addressing.
(Actually, looking at the older revamp- the jaw was /larger/ on that one o_o")
Whoa, whoa. When did I say the piece itself was half-assed? I called the snarl half-assed - as in, the Mortiking looks bored, not fierce.<br />
If you guys want to get offended over something, I suggest you pick a better thing to try and get your panties in a wad over.
If you guys want to get offended over something, I suggest you pick a better thing to try and get your panties in a wad over.
I like how this turned out very much <img src="http://images.subeta.net/smilies/6398_emoticon_smile.gif" border="0" />
Dear Shibari;
You have the most amazing logic ever.
Love, DNA. <img src="http://images.subeta.net/smilies/6398_emoticon_heart.gif" border="0" />
You have the most amazing logic ever.
Love, DNA. <img src="http://images.subeta.net/smilies/6398_emoticon_heart.gif" border="0" />
Very nice work! Great job on the tweaks, it looks awesome. <img src="http://images.subeta.net/smilies/6398_emoticon_grin.gif" border="0" />
You know I think everyone who is making rude comments is kind of missing the point. The revamp is simply a revamp. The original mortiking really isn't a lovely character to start with. Not everyone likes dino's or morti's. If I'm not mistaken the goal of a revamp is to be true to the original but improve it in a way that most people like.
If you look on this board you'll see that the majority like it.
For those of you so rudely and offensively complaining, It's a freaking mortiking NO it's not going to be turned into a kitty for you OR your favorite creature. It's a MORTIKING.
If you look on this board you'll see that the majority like it.
For those of you so rudely and offensively complaining, It's a freaking mortiking NO it's not going to be turned into a kitty for you OR your favorite creature. It's a MORTIKING.
The subtle improvements from the last one to this made all the difference in the world. __ I like the fully-visible tail and the more slender back/chest/shoulders. The added highlights really make it look nice on the colorfills, too...Marsh is AMAZING. The larger, less rounded eyes and the bigger mouth made the face look less funny as well...the first revamp's expression cracked me up because it looked so wierd. |D<br />You're a saint for being able to sift through all the rude comments on the poll to take the good suggestions (few and far between as they were) and use them to improve the pet. ♥ Amazing work.
<b>Quote:</b><blockquote style="padding:5px; line-height:15px; background-color: #FAFFFF; border: 1px solid #000000; font-family: georgia; font-size: 10;">Impressive! Well done. =3 </blockquote>
That opinion offers no critique as well. If you're going to bicker with the people who doesn't offer any constructive criticism, then it goes with the supporters as well.
In my opinion, it looks like garbage. That is nothing against the artist, she's done some nice work in the past. This particular work bothers me in the fact I think entire face structure needs to be redone. Just looks like an overgrown lizard who's trying to hard to be a bully.
That opinion offers no critique as well. If you're going to bicker with the people who doesn't offer any constructive criticism, then it goes with the supporters as well.
In my opinion, it looks like garbage. That is nothing against the artist, she's done some nice work in the past. This particular work bothers me in the fact I think entire face structure needs to be redone. Just looks like an overgrown lizard who's trying to hard to be a bully.
You're welcome! <img src="http://images.subeta.net/smilies/6398_emoticon_smile.gif" border="0" />
c: Everything that was suggested was fixed...XD It lost weight, it has one more spike, it's jaw goes back further, its eye is longer and it has a tail...XD Thank you.8D
Right, Vari.
Whatever you "commented on", I'm going to respond in kind if you're going to be rude, which is obvious.
If that ruffles your feathers, either learn the definition of tact, or don't speak at all.
Whatever you "commented on", I'm going to respond in kind if you're going to be rude, which is obvious.
If that ruffles your feathers, either learn the definition of tact, or don't speak at all.
Varicolored, if you're not going to offer anything constructive, then don't offer anything. Calling the work half-assed is an opinion that reflects on the artist, personally, and the amount of effort put into the work. There are much more tactful ways to express dislike for the snarl.
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Congrats to successful weight lost. ;D
I commented on the art, not on you personally. Take your personal attacks elsewhere if you're going to continue to troll ME for having an opinion on your art.
And Shibari. Shut up. Nothing is every to your liking. We get it. :