HYDRAGELLOS!
Of course my first instinct as Subeta's bravest and most formidable warrior was to lean forward and run directly through the monster with my arms outstretched behind me (for the extra speed, you know), killing it instantly, but I just had this armor cleaned and I've also been told I need to learn to be more of a team player. Therefore, I will graciously allow you to band together to, if not defeat the monster, at least annoy it enough that it leaves Subeta.
At the speed it's moving, the Hydragellos should take until the end of the day on Sunday to make its way out of Subeta. Try to cut it down to size before then! I'll keep track of the damage you deal to the beast (which you'll also be able to check for yourself very soon) and once Subeta is safe again, I'll make sure you're rewarded! I'd say 15 million damage should earn you a Hydragellos Maniacal Core*, personally carved from the beast by yours truly. If you can't quite hit that mark, I'm sure I can find some other prizes for you. Good luck!
* One core per account!
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[NPC] Kain
Reaper
@BoneCollector
I'm honestly not sure on that. They gave Hydragellos unlimited health this year so that everyone had "equal" opportunity to reach 15 million damage in the time frame - I'm not sure there will be a point at which it's health starts to decrease and someone can get the final blow - but I don't think it will to be honest. I think there's no bonus prize for getting the last hit this year because I don't think there will be a last hit.
I'm honestly not sure on that. They gave Hydragellos unlimited health this year so that everyone had "equal" opportunity to reach 15 million damage in the time frame - I'm not sure there will be a point at which it's health starts to decrease and someone can get the final blow - but I don't think it will to be honest. I think there's no bonus prize for getting the last hit this year because I don't think there will be a last hit.
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BoneCollector
@Reaper thank you now i get it :) another question that follows on this one ........... does that mean that all that reached the 15 million mark wont be able to win another core with the final blow or is that also something from last year and will you only gain the acheivement for the last blow - i get confused with all those changes every year lol
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Reaper
@BoneCollector
It's one core per account per event. They were specifying that you can't get 15m with one pet, then 15m with a second/third/etc/etc and get a core for each pet that hit the damage requirement. Just one total for this year's event.
It's one core per account per event. They were specifying that you can't get 15m with one pet, then 15m with a second/third/etc/etc and get a core for each pet that hit the damage requirement. Just one total for this year's event.
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BoneCollector
.........;;because if so then its not realy one core per account isnt it ?? i am a bit confused there - so therefore this question
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BoneCollector
if subeta says " one core per account"
does that mean that ....
everyone that already earned a core in the previous years
can battle there butt off to gain 15 million but wont get another core only the other prizes ?? or can they still earn another core ??? thats what i am wondering about to be honest ?
does that mean that ....
everyone that already earned a core in the previous years
can battle there butt off to gain 15 million but wont get another core only the other prizes ?? or can they still earn another core ??? thats what i am wondering about to be honest ?
0
TheseHeights
I've been on this site for 12 years and battling is STILL a disaster and always will be, thanks for coming to my TED talk
1
Tribunal
I'm combining 16 and 17 in my head, 16 was the year the cores were by tier.
When they didn't announce that except as a 'some prizes are by tier' comment on the news post.
Subeta screws up trying to make battling less elitist in too many varied ways I can't keep them straight anymore.
When they didn't announce that except as a 'some prizes are by tier' comment on the news post.
Subeta screws up trying to make battling less elitist in too many varied ways I can't keep them straight anymore.
1
Targaryen
I have trained Syrax for years to be a Tier 13! It was a lot of work. I do not know if I will make 15 mil damage because of working in R/L.. I am going to try my best. I love to battle and am going for the Core! I did not think the year people that got the most damage for each tier and got a core was fair. Try spending hours training and battle quest to get a capped pet.
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Allaconna
@MagnusTheRed
It helps if you make the training page your home page. Then you can start a training session every time you start your browser. =D
It helps if you make the training page your home page. Then you can start a training session every time you start your browser. =D
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Cordyceps_sapiens
I couldn't get the Core last year at 5 million minimum damage. Because I've put so much work into my battle pet, and because there's enough time for the necessary grinding, I should be able to get it this year at 15 million minimum damage. You need patience and time to grind to get anywhere in battles, especially the most desirable prizes.
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Kinky
I'm just going to do my best. I know I didn't train enough for a core, and that's fine.
BUT I'M STILL GOING TO HELP TACKLE THIS BEAST!
BUT I'M STILL GOING TO HELP TACKLE THIS BEAST!
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Reaper
I have a t12 pet. I have decent weapons. I also work full time and have a life outside of subeta and can't actually spend every spare hour grinding for this. The core remains unbuyable despite how many went out last year. The top weapons remain unbuyable and were in large part acquired before there was ever such a thing as tiers to begin with.
Some of us worked just as hard as others to get to a point where we were supposed to have a chance at the core this year, but are being iced out because we don't have hours on end to sit and grind.
Pretty much everyone who answered the question of how much damage is fair was someone who had *at least* one core already from a previous year. Sitting here watching people who have been guaranteed to win a core every single time this event runs talk about how it's super fair to continue to gatekeep battling to anyone who wasn't here a decade ago makes me really have a lot of distaste for that community as a whole. "Why should people work really hard and be told that they'll for sure be able to get something next time the event comes around get anything next time when they've done exactly as they should've but the goalposts were moved yet again to keep them out?"
Like...what exactly do you gain from all this? I don't see any PvP battling happening here where you hoarding all the best weapons forever and always does you any good. You want the best prizes so you can...what? Sit on them since you can only equip one at a time? Try to sell them for billions to people who won't ever earn billions because the only people sitting on that money are people who already have it? How does making battling even slightly more accessible to people who worked their butts off for years also hurt you at all? Because from where I'm sitting? It doesn't.
Some of us worked just as hard as others to get to a point where we were supposed to have a chance at the core this year, but are being iced out because we don't have hours on end to sit and grind.
Pretty much everyone who answered the question of how much damage is fair was someone who had *at least* one core already from a previous year. Sitting here watching people who have been guaranteed to win a core every single time this event runs talk about how it's super fair to continue to gatekeep battling to anyone who wasn't here a decade ago makes me really have a lot of distaste for that community as a whole. "Why should people work really hard and be told that they'll for sure be able to get something next time the event comes around get anything next time when they've done exactly as they should've but the goalposts were moved yet again to keep them out?"
Like...what exactly do you gain from all this? I don't see any PvP battling happening here where you hoarding all the best weapons forever and always does you any good. You want the best prizes so you can...what? Sit on them since you can only equip one at a time? Try to sell them for billions to people who won't ever earn billions because the only people sitting on that money are people who already have it? How does making battling even slightly more accessible to people who worked their butts off for years also hurt you at all? Because from where I'm sitting? It doesn't.
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Lirikai
I busted butt last year and actually made the top tier with mediocre weapons and a middling-tier 11. I probably shouldn't have been able to do that, lol.
I think 5 mil probably was too low. 15 mil might be too high, but to me it seems very clear that we're basically live-testing how the system works, from year to year. Maybe next year we'll have a number more in the middle, once we have some data on how well the 15 mil goal works.
I'm really glad we do have a set damage goal and almost a whole week, however, even if I won't be able to make it this year; I deeply appreciate the ability to look at the goal, look at my time/ability/commitments and decide whether it's feasible or not. For me, this year, it's not. But I'm so glad that we're not doing the "drop everything and battle for two random days, go!" strategy.
I think 5 mil probably was too low. 15 mil might be too high, but to me it seems very clear that we're basically live-testing how the system works, from year to year. Maybe next year we'll have a number more in the middle, once we have some data on how well the 15 mil goal works.
I'm really glad we do have a set damage goal and almost a whole week, however, even if I won't be able to make it this year; I deeply appreciate the ability to look at the goal, look at my time/ability/commitments and decide whether it's feasible or not. For me, this year, it's not. But I'm so glad that we're not doing the "drop everything and battle for two random days, go!" strategy.
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Jess
I don’t think anyone should expect to earn a top battling prize when their pet is only 26% of the way toward being maxed out. Those T12/T13 battlers have worked 2-4x harder for their pets; of course they are going to get top prizes, they earned it.
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Christopher
"I put in effort and that means anyone who finds the amount of effort that needs to be done for this event absurd isn't putting in enough effort or doesn't care as much as me, therefore they don't deserve something despite the fact that my 100% and someone else's 100% is different"
Got it!
Got it!
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Chocolate
Also, I-spy-with-my-little-eye 4 other challengers to train the lower tiers against.
This isn't a zero-sum game. Everyone can win with effort. The level of effort just scales.
This isn't a zero-sum game. Everyone can win with effort. The level of effort just scales.
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Chocolate
Hello, my name is Chocolate. I have a T12 pet and I fully plan on dedicating 12 hours to grind for a Core. As are many, many, many others. Your point?
I love battling. Not everyone does. Not everyone has to.
If I want to spend 12 hours grinding, and you don't? Okay then. Then you get the other 9 valuable participation prizes, and I'll sit on my 10 prizes.
I'm making time for this event that I care about. Just as I've made time the last many years to get to the place I am. It's not as much time as some, but it's greater than others. And that's okay.
But tell me again how it's unfair.
I love battling. Not everyone does. Not everyone has to.
If I want to spend 12 hours grinding, and you don't? Okay then. Then you get the other 9 valuable participation prizes, and I'll sit on my 10 prizes.
I'm making time for this event that I care about. Just as I've made time the last many years to get to the place I am. It's not as much time as some, but it's greater than others. And that's okay.
But tell me again how it's unfair.
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Wesker
Maybe people don’t realize that the core isn’t the only prize from the hydra. There are a lot of other really good prizes, last time there were books, wearables, boosters, etc. The core is a top prize, an -incentive- for making an investment in battling. Why would someone spend billions of sP for the best weapons for their T12 to do the most damage if they are going to be rewarded the same prize as a T12 pet that is using T8 weapons or weapons they only spent a few million on?
You know what’s unfair? The people that have multiple T12/T13 pets that’s spend days accumulating damage and only get one top prize. But they don’t complain because battling is what they love to do and accept that battling has always been a non profitable hobby.
You know what’s unfair? The people that have multiple T12/T13 pets that’s spend days accumulating damage and only get one top prize. But they don’t complain because battling is what they love to do and accept that battling has always been a non profitable hobby.
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Christopher
That's a really good strawman, considering there are people with tier 10-12 pets in these very news comments saying that they'd have to dedicate 12+ hours of grinding in order to hit the damage.
Saying "oh this is better than it used to be" does not mean that the situation can't be improved.
Also, complaining about 200 drops as if that's the worst thing in the world is ludicrous given that weapons aren't consumed on use and it's not even something like a book or food that can go in multiple places, so a large chunk of the "won" cores aren't exactly being utilized.
Saying "oh this is better than it used to be" does not mean that the situation can't be improved.
Also, complaining about 200 drops as if that's the worst thing in the world is ludicrous given that weapons aren't consumed on use and it's not even something like a book or food that can go in multiple places, so a large chunk of the "won" cores aren't exactly being utilized.
1
rhino_loupe
Quote:
Yeah I'm good. I remember that living hell.
Searching For: Hydragellos Maniacal Core
Hydragellos Maniacal Core
1 item(s) found in total!
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Chocolate
What exactly do you expect staff to do? Say, "oh hi, little low-tier Timmy! I see you were only able to do about 500 damage after trying only 3 times. You can get a core, a piece of one of the best weapons on site, just for trying!"
It might seem harsh, but yeah, the core is a reward for the the top battlers. I wasn't strong enough last time, but I am this time, and I'm damn proud of it. I'm still going to be grinding like crazy, but this is a reward for spending years and years on my pet.
And believe me, I'm really happy they changed it away from the top X pets, because I can name 50 people instantly who have better armies than I. This is them increasing the fairness. (And trying to find a happy balance between 25 and 200 drops.)
And little low tier Timmy? Well, the actual scaled participation prizes are normally really great. Last time, some truly superb prizes went out for only doing 250k and 500k damage. That's really, really obtainable.
It might seem harsh, but yeah, the core is a reward for the the top battlers. I wasn't strong enough last time, but I am this time, and I'm damn proud of it. I'm still going to be grinding like crazy, but this is a reward for spending years and years on my pet.
And believe me, I'm really happy they changed it away from the top X pets, because I can name 50 people instantly who have better armies than I. This is them increasing the fairness. (And trying to find a happy balance between 25 and 200 drops.)
And little low tier Timmy? Well, the actual scaled participation prizes are normally really great. Last time, some truly superb prizes went out for only doing 250k and 500k damage. That's really, really obtainable.
8
Lea
I'm holding off on battling this dude until we know if users that got the core last year can get another this year... I hope that gets cleared up soon, because I am confused orz;
0
ColdDragon
If the one Core limit wasn't in place, I would have gotten four Cores last time. Possibly more because I stopped trying for 5 mil after it was announced 2.5 mil would get you all the smaller prizes.
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ColdDragon
"just implementing the 1 per account rule"
They had one Core per account in place last time and have it in place this time.
They had one Core per account in place last time and have it in place this time.
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Tribunal
/Only/ serious (top tiers) battlers get rewarded. That's the point. That's what last year was supposed to fix. Expect the screwed up and didn't make it one per account so those people used their armories to crowd out the lower tiers too.
So the real people with lower tier pets, who Subeta explicitly wanted to give a chance to, got screwed. And now they're screwed again with this 'fix'. If they really did still want to give those people a chance, just implementing the 1 per account rule and using the same system as last time (while tweaking the numbers if needed) was the answer. They didn't do that.
Seriously, why couldn't it be top 10 in t9+ and top 5 in t4-5 and top 3 in t1-3, 1 per account* or something if you wanted less to go out. Or a smaller damage floor? This is way way more similar to the original way (which to some commenters here: isn't the same as saying LITERALLY those same people will be rewarded - although some of them absolutely will :/).
So the real people with lower tier pets, who Subeta explicitly wanted to give a chance to, got screwed. And now they're screwed again with this 'fix'. If they really did still want to give those people a chance, just implementing the 1 per account rule and using the same system as last time (while tweaking the numbers if needed) was the answer. They didn't do that.
Seriously, why couldn't it be top 10 in t9+ and top 5 in t4-5 and top 3 in t1-3, 1 per account* or something if you wanted less to go out. Or a smaller damage floor? This is way way more similar to the original way (which to some commenters here: isn't the same as saying LITERALLY those same people will be rewarded - although some of them absolutely will :/).
1
Sorcerer
So it's raw damage not top X pets per tier this time? I like that system a lot.
Tracked my first 50 battles, and the projections are not encouraging. Looking forward to the official DMG tracker, that thing saved my ass last time.
Tracked my first 50 battles, and the projections are not encouraging. Looking forward to the official DMG tracker, that thing saved my ass last time.
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frederick
Battling itself is a grind. Even a low effort battler like me who can't be bothered to farm challengers can end up tier 12 with a reasonable set of weapons and scrolls at my disposal. But I had to grind every single day over a long period of time to reach that point. I'm pretty happy I don't have to compete with people who actually try. There'd be no reason to do more than the minimum to get the rest of the prizes.
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Wesker
If it’s taking you a ridiculous amount of battles to do enough damage, your armory may need to be upgraded or your pet isn’t strong enough. We also won’t know yet until the final results if 15 mil is too high. 5 mil was too low. That’s the only reason they increased the amount. To say that cores are only going to get rewarded to the same 26 people this year, without even seeing the final results and only 2 days into the hydra release is highly presumptuous. People have had a lot of time to prepare since then. This is a battle event. Serious battlers will get rewarded. I say this as someone who has been on this site for 11 years, bust my butt battling every year and only got a core during the last war.
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Christopher
Telling someone to "work for it" by dedicating over a full day (24 hrs) of sit down time over the course of a week to grinding out damage is ridiculous.
And saying "Well you can always work towards next year" is a hollow sentiment when the goals for these things keep increasing every year... like the last time there was a set goal it was 5m damage over the same period. Trying to say that the number of cores that went out was ridiculous because "it's a rare item" isn't reflective of the actuality of stats on pets - a mid-tier 11 pet isn't even in the top 1000 pets on site. The goalposts shift so that the SAME group of ultra-high end battlers in included but everyone else (including people who are approaching/in the tier where this item is relevant) is left behind.
And saying "Well you can always work towards next year" is a hollow sentiment when the goals for these things keep increasing every year... like the last time there was a set goal it was 5m damage over the same period. Trying to say that the number of cores that went out was ridiculous because "it's a rare item" isn't reflective of the actuality of stats on pets - a mid-tier 11 pet isn't even in the top 1000 pets on site. The goalposts shift so that the SAME group of ultra-high end battlers in included but everyone else (including people who are approaching/in the tier where this item is relevant) is left behind.
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Wesker
Just voicing what a few other have said. The hydragellos was never meant to be easy. It used to be A LOT tougher when it was PvP competive - only the top 25 overall damage people got a core so you not only needed a high T12/T13 pet, but you also needed to be online for the two days hydragellos was available before someone killed him. Staff have been super generous with changing the event so that you have 6 days to do damage and don’t have to compete against other players to get hits in. Now more people can get the core of you work for it. They’ve actually increased the pool of potential winners.
The core is used to make one of the best obtainable weapons in the game. It makes sense then that high tier pets should win it. The higher your pet is from years of training and the more you’ve invested in your armory, the less effort you have to put in during the event. Does this also make it near impossible for low tier pets to get? Yes but there is also next year if you train hard before the next time.
The core is used to make one of the best obtainable weapons in the game. It makes sense then that high tier pets should win it. The higher your pet is from years of training and the more you’ve invested in your armory, the less effort you have to put in during the event. Does this also make it near impossible for low tier pets to get? Yes but there is also next year if you train hard before the next time.
10
EmilyMae
Spending over 28k on healing every time I fight is adding up quickly :(
I hope we get to see our progress soon.
I hope we get to see our progress soon.
5
Christopher
"Battling used to be even more inaccessible so complaints about the current system only rewarding the same small set of users by constantly raising benchmarks so that users who are trying to catch up never can are unwarranted"
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CastlesInTheSky
Back in the day you had to sit n click virtually all day long. No top whatever for every tier, no deal a certain amount of damage to get the core. Missed a few hours at the beginning? you have to sit n click for even longer. 2 Hydras you say? Nope, only the one. It was top 25 for the entire site. its much easier today than it was.
anyway....
Thank you staff for the free healing :)
anyway....
Thank you staff for the free healing :)
1
Jai
Any update about when the damage counter will be up and running?
Also, I'm glad I was one of the lucky 200 last release. 15 mil seems terribly high for pets that aren't tier 12-13.
Also, I'm glad I was one of the lucky 200 last release. 15 mil seems terribly high for pets that aren't tier 12-13.
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Tribunal
This... this was not the way to fix the distribution issues from last time. I had a chance in hell last time. I don't this time (because I'd have to literally sit at my computer 24/7 at least part of the time and I just can't do that).
I get that you wanted more of a balance but this is dumb and elitist on par with the original distribution method. GG lucky people from last time, again. Which again, this is just double-tripling down on. *sigh*
I get that you wanted more of a balance but this is dumb and elitist on par with the original distribution method. GG lucky people from last time, again. Which again, this is just double-tripling down on. *sigh*
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CastlesInTheSky
they blew it last year by handing them out to the top 10 (whatever it was) in every single tier
0
Amae
They released like 200 Cores last time. All the years before that they released 26 (top 25 damage dealers + 1 to the person who gave the last blow). They're trying to find something more between 200 and 26 cores released, I assume.
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EmCee
What's the purpose of re-releasing something when you have to do 2x more damage than the last release? Your user base isn't kids with unlimited free time you know... this is
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Chocolate
They increased the min damage for a core from 5m to 15m because last time, nearly 200 of them went out. (Which is a ridiculously high number.)
It's meant to be difficult. Is it too difficult? We'll see. But I plan on grinding my ass off to try any get a core this year.
And as for "grind-heavy events" - yeah. This event is a grind, for sure. But we've also been begging for it for years.
My pet wasn't strong enough last gelly war, but I'm sure hoping she's ready this year.
It's meant to be difficult. Is it too difficult? We'll see. But I plan on grinding my ass off to try any get a core this year.
And as for "grind-heavy events" - yeah. This event is a grind, for sure. But we've also been begging for it for years.
My pet wasn't strong enough last gelly war, but I'm sure hoping she's ready this year.
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Christopher
Glad that people who already have a Hydragellos core can get another one, with a low Tier 11 pet this would over a full day of straight grinding.
2
Dice
15 mil is a lot. Even taking into account the training I've done since the last war, that's still a lot more battles, a lot more healing. Luckily I already have a core, because I don't think I'll make it this time.
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serinde
Yeah, LOL, I'm not doing 7.5k battles. The 5 mil last time wasn't daunting enough or what?
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kuzi
which you'll also be able to check for yourself very soon
idk if I'm reading this wrong but it would be GREAT to see the amount of damage your pet has done listed somewhere while battling! or is this about overall damage of everyone combined?
idk if I'm reading this wrong but it would be GREAT to see the amount of damage your pet has done listed somewhere while battling! or is this about overall damage of everyone combined?
5
Frost
Gonna give it a crack, but... I kinda don't get why Subeta keeps forcing grind-heavy events when prettymuch the whole userbase is over 18, with jobs, families, responsibilities and everything inbetween. :'| Or maybe it's just me being bored of grinding through the same old events.
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Ashei
My battle pet is T4, so I’m only doing ~215 damage per battle (when it doesn’t just get absorbed) lol... But that’s, uh, better than nothing, I guess? :’D
1
SAILOR
Woah, big jump. Last time the core was settled at 5m and now this time it's 15mil.
Wish I didn't sell off my hoard of sod scrolls.
Good luck everyone!
Wish I didn't sell off my hoard of sod scrolls.
Good luck everyone!
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SYLVAN
Sweet :o! I appreciate the way the cores are going out this time by using a set cumulative point score that we can see and work towards. This feels far more fair and less stressful than the old system. It's still going to be hella difficult but with an end in sight it might just be doable.
1
demon
@Ankou yeah, its loss count, but it makes everyone feel better when they say kills! truth is, everyones being splattered by this big mad lad.
0
demon
ground out nearly 700 kills. coming back for you tomorrow, you freaking blob. and your little minions, too
2
Solas
I don't anyone could beat it, them must be counting losses....I hope :o
Otherwise this is going to bite :(
Otherwise this is going to bite :(
0
Millie
Sorry for the dumb question but, do losses from this boss tally/included/counted from the accumulative loss score? :(
1
miha
My poor little pet. It manages to make about 350 damage and then it's ko. Then I drag it up to the healer, just to get it beaten up again. I think Kani just hates this enemy ^^'
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ColdDragon
I want to farm for all the lower prizes, once I'm done with 15 mil with main pet. Can we still get multiples of the other prizes? If so, is the goal still 2.5 mil?
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Hamda
Question.
If you got the core last time (in the boss prizes section) do you qualify for it again this year when you reach 15 million damage?
If you got the core last time (in the boss prizes section) do you qualify for it again this year when you reach 15 million damage?
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Skolletta
Very much looking forward to being able to see our damage totals! Until then I'll just sit here wishing there were a way to see both my pet's health and their damage dealt at the same time. The scrolling is killer. D:
/fights blindly
/fights blindly
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MagnusTheRed
My strongest pet is T2... Why do I always forget battling exists until things like this happen?
5
Rocketlauncher
@BoaConstrictor
It just applies to the top prize. You can have duplicates of other prizes.
Hydragellos Maniacal Core
It just applies to the top prize. You can have duplicates of other prizes.
Hydragellos Maniacal Core
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BoaConstrictor
* One core per account!
Does that mean, ALL of the prizes just one per account, or can the other pets battle for their own smaller prizes still? Or won't there be any this time?
Does that mean, ALL of the prizes just one per account, or can the other pets battle for their own smaller prizes still? Or won't there be any this time?
0
Rocketlauncher
@Wolfmyth
Not yet, but there will be soon according to this news post.
Not yet, but there will be soon according to this news post.
Quote:
I'll keep track of the damage you deal to the beast (which you'll also be able to check for yourself very soon)
5
five_507
651 damage per round if he doesn't do Maniacal Absorption... otherwise less... hmm, how many battles would that take? Well, ONLY ABOUT 30.000 BATTLES KIDS
2
innamoramento
@quo:
i made a mistake T_T the damage you deal is in the column where your weapons are shown ... which makes more sense, if you think about it..... x.x
and all this time i calculated how much damage hydragellos caused me DX ok, i'll show myself out.
you still have to scroll, and we still have to wait for the official numbers -_-
i made a mistake T_T the damage you deal is in the column where your weapons are shown ... which makes more sense, if you think about it..... x.x
and all this time i calculated how much damage hydragellos caused me DX ok, i'll show myself out.
you still have to scroll, and we still have to wait for the official numbers -_-
0
chookie
...I keep telling myself I should upgrade Helio's weapon set... have I done it yet? Nope. Oh well, no core for me. I'll still give him a few whallops tho, hopefully get some other prizes.
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innamoramento
@quo
after you attack the opponent, there are these columns in which you can read which weapons you used and which weapons the opponent used. if you scroll, at the bottom it says how much damage you managed to deal (in the weapon column of the opponent) or you received (in your weapon column).
if you put the numbers in a spreadsheet, you can have an idea of your progress until staff makes the option available for us.
i hope this was clear enough...
3000 damage in 2 battles?? this will take forever and a day... T6 and lately i was lazy with training :( i guess my weapons are also not strong enough... u.u
after you attack the opponent, there are these columns in which you can read which weapons you used and which weapons the opponent used. if you scroll, at the bottom it says how much damage you managed to deal (in the weapon column of the opponent) or you received (in your weapon column).
if you put the numbers in a spreadsheet, you can have an idea of your progress until staff makes the option available for us.
i hope this was clear enough...
3000 damage in 2 battles?? this will take forever and a day... T6 and lately i was lazy with training :( i guess my weapons are also not strong enough... u.u
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demon
@quo unless someone is actually calculating how much damage they do each fight, we don't know how much our respective pets are doing. all we know, is to get the core, we need to deal 15mil damage.
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penelope
I’m so confused.. everyone is stating how much damage was done but I’m not seeing anything other than a message that says I lost to hydragello and that’s it. No statement about how much damage was dealt (Goldilocks is T10)
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Pinocchio
It'd be nice to have any idea how much damage I've actually done, since it's varied significantly from battle to battle x_x
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Xezvi
Did Subeta forget how to fraction? First I do 11 out of 10 Maleria quests, now my pets are 140% happy and insta-hungry...?
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Darkrai
@ everyone questioning the in-between gellies, there's new loot in the item directory so it looks like they're probably coming later. I think they just wanted to give us almost a week to fight the big boi for the core without dragging out the gelly war an extra week
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talisman
its unreasonable to consider i would get 15m damage even with my t12 as a full time worker. ):
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Ferinsy
(oh, that was confusing. I mean, it's cummulative, but like, for each person, so if you deal 15k of dmg each battle, you'll take 1k battles to reach the core mark)
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Isilven
Guys, I'm pretty sure this is like the Quest-A-Thon, where it's CUMULATIVE FOR ALL USERS. The immediate wailing and complaining is/was cringy
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Ferinsy
@Reaper Bludgeon of Mass Extinction can be used as well... And I mean, you can only use 2 attackers, I just throw a bunch of them there to complete the 8 weapons in case of one of them being stolen by opponents. And yeah, and on top of that I find battling thousands of times way too boring xD I can totally kiss/dance in events because it's just a click and every X minutes, but battling recquires healing (in the case of the hydra) and a lot of clicks.
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StarShadow
Ah darn, I have to work all week so won't be able to get more than a few hits in. Good luck to the rest of you.
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Reaper
@Ferinsy
Sadly I didn't know about the quills before haha. I've made a set (weapon and scroll) but even if I start doing 4k damage a round, it still looks like nearly 4k rounds against Hydragellos and I just...don't have that time honestly. I've managed 169 wins against the mini today (and 115 of that was at work on my phone over the course of the 9.5 hours I was there)...it's just not realistic for me and it's frustrating because they keep altering how you get the core, but making it kinda worse every time.
Sadly I didn't know about the quills before haha. I've made a set (weapon and scroll) but even if I start doing 4k damage a round, it still looks like nearly 4k rounds against Hydragellos and I just...don't have that time honestly. I've managed 169 wins against the mini today (and 115 of that was at work on my phone over the course of the 9.5 hours I was there)...it's just not realistic for me and it's frustrating because they keep altering how you get the core, but making it kinda worse every time.
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Frieda
It would be really nice to have a participation counter so we could keep tabs on our progress.
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Ferinsy
@Reaper oh, totally... I bought the quills for 22m, I wasn't around during the plot. Sometimes there are people selling those weapons for a nice price. Weapons tend to have their prices over inflated during battling events. And sometimes you just get lucky, like when I found the Shinwas Temple Shard for 30m in the shops (that was the higher I went xD but it's totally worthy since it gives you an extra round forever in any battle) and some scrolls, like the cold blast were also pretty cheap (divine denizhen can be made in that scroll place, it's cheaper and materials are restockable).
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Darkrai
@iara The damage only counts for *this* Hydragellos. So you need the 1.5m by midnight Sunday for the core, or you need to start over with whatever mechanic they go with next time for awarding them, since it hasn't always been just a straight "get 1.5m damage" and is probably subject to change again
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Jamileigh17
So... What about all the other gels between the n00b level and nonsense tier? Cause at ~5k per battle, healing costs of 9k/battle loss, that makes 27m to get that core. I mean, OK and also ~each battle/heal takes about 5 mins, so 10 hrs straight battling ASSUMING ZERO LAG or interruptions. could I do it? Probably. Am I likely to invest that time/effort with my ADHD brain? HHAAHAHAHAHA NO.
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Ferinsy
@Reaper I'm not much of a battler as well xD Probably will skip the core, I don't even know if it's usable. But some strategy is nice for events, since I enjoy getting some battle loots from events/plots, so I'm okay with spending like... 20m in a weapon, and that's really low for high tier pets, but I prefer spending that much over 100m+++ for the best weapons in the site.
If you're interested in my strategy, it's the following:
[spoile="survival"]I use an almost-full-freezing scroll (cold blast) with a full blocker (shinwas temple shard,) and a bomb (acorn bomb, recently in the TS), then in the second round, if hydra is frozen, I use a full freezer (that gorgun from battle shop does it), an attacker and an attack scroll (heavens cannon); if they're not frozen, I use the freezer, Phoenix Quill to survive another round and the defense scroll (divine denizhen). The next rounds are me trying to survive more with 2 attackers and the denizhen scroll (and if they are frozen by my semi-freezer weapons, I use the heavens cannon instead to attack a bit more).
My attackers are Paintbrush Blades, Daemons Poisonous Quills and Replica Minotaur Knocker with some freezing crystal modifiers to try another freezing round.
If you're interested in my strategy, it's the following:
[spoile="survival"]I use an almost-full-freezing scroll (cold blast) with a full blocker (shinwas temple shard,) and a bomb (acorn bomb, recently in the TS), then in the second round, if hydra is frozen, I use a full freezer (that gorgun from battle shop does it), an attacker and an attack scroll (heavens cannon); if they're not frozen, I use the freezer, Phoenix Quill to survive another round and the defense scroll (divine denizhen). The next rounds are me trying to survive more with 2 attackers and the denizhen scroll (and if they are frozen by my semi-freezer weapons, I use the heavens cannon instead to attack a bit more).
My attackers are Paintbrush Blades, Daemons Poisonous Quills and Replica Minotaur Knocker with some freezing crystal modifiers to try another freezing round.
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Tserel
Btw are we gonna get a page updating our current damage? I'm just chugging away at the attack button, ain't no one got time to try to estimate the numbers
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iara
Any chance there is a page that counts my progress? I need 11K battles to reach 15M. I doubt I will reach that this time around, but I would love to eventually reach it! Also the slayer achievement should be given for battling it eve once. It would be nice.
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Reaper
@Georgie
I'm with you. While I appreciate being able to bump up on gourmand this much - there's literally no reason that my pet should be dropping to 0/10 every 5 battles against the minis. Nor is there a reason that all of my other pets (who are in the resort) should lose any points at all.
I'm with you. While I appreciate being able to bump up on gourmand this much - there's literally no reason that my pet should be dropping to 0/10 every 5 battles against the minis. Nor is there a reason that all of my other pets (who are in the resort) should lose any points at all.
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Reaper
@Ferinsy
I did the math based on the two hits I got in during the round. It was like...1800 and some change. So, idk what weapons you consider mediocre, but I don't have those I guess. I have decent things but unfortunately I'm not doing that kind of damage and he's not freezing. Also I work and can't sit here all day and fight the lag. The damage requirement is higher than I'm going to manage yet again (every time they change this, it just gets further and further away for me so at this point I'm pretty well tired of trying tbh).
I did the math based on the two hits I got in during the round. It was like...1800 and some change. So, idk what weapons you consider mediocre, but I don't have those I guess. I have decent things but unfortunately I'm not doing that kind of damage and he's not freezing. Also I work and can't sit here all day and fight the lag. The damage requirement is higher than I'm going to manage yet again (every time they change this, it just gets further and further away for me so at this point I'm pretty well tired of trying tbh).
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Georgie
My pet losing all its hunger points after every battle is crazy. Going to make this extra frustrating.
4
Mabon
Me: does a test fight to see how much damage my top pet does
Top Pet: does 550 damage
This is gonna be a long haul for me.
Top Pet: does 550 damage
This is gonna be a long haul for me.
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Ferinsy
@Reaper with a t12 pet I think you can deal at least 6k damage per battle... I'm at t11 with mediocre weapons and I can deal at least 4~5k per battle. I mean, rn I think you can't get a full blocker, but when Shinwas Temple Shard rs at crystal shop it's totally obtainable with a week or two massive buying from the 400 sP shops (half baked, the bake stop etc.). Also, freezing and full healing comes handy.
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Marlboro
btw what's going on with the Slayer achievement? is it retired for good?
Any chance to give it along with the 15mil prize?
Any chance to give it along with the 15mil prize?
1
lull
Am i remembering rightly that each pet that battles gets a prize based on how much damage it does or am I confused and it is one prize for all the damage done by the user (i.e. all the pets)?
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Muertespiralgalaxis
*looks at my little tier 7 panda-moth who has cheap weapons and 630 heath points*
lol maybe next year
lol maybe next year
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Laurey
@paeoniaceae
Yes, this isn't the type of challenger that one user is meant to defeat by themselves. It's a community boss battle, which means everyone does a bit of damage to it individually over time, and you get your individual prizes based on how much cumulative damage you manage to do with your pet(s) by the end of it.
Yes, this isn't the type of challenger that one user is meant to defeat by themselves. It's a community boss battle, which means everyone does a bit of damage to it individually over time, and you get your individual prizes based on how much cumulative damage you manage to do with your pet(s) by the end of it.
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Reaper
yeah so like...I mathed it out, since I only have weapons I can acquire without having been a battler since before tiers were a thing and I don't really think I have time to get in nearly 9k battles (assuming I do at least 1700 damage with my t12 pet each round I go with him) and also keep my job and sleep.
So I guess that's one more year of no Maniacal Core for me. At this point I don't even know why I bother training and battling because only a small fraction of people can do the necessary to get any of these weapons *shrug*
So I guess that's one more year of no Maniacal Core for me. At this point I don't even know why I bother training and battling because only a small fraction of people can do the necessary to get any of these weapons *shrug*
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feral
Sure wish the site wasn't lagging so bad so I could finish the mini gels and start on this *sad shrug*
4
jensen
"I don't know how none of you sighted people noticed a humongous three-headed gelatin monster menacingly approaching, but now is not the time for blame."
kain please it's been drooling on me all day, it absolutely ruined my nice picnic
(yesss hydra time ok ok ok time to put in the work! ... after last minute quests)
kain please it's been drooling on me all day, it absolutely ruined my nice picnic
(yesss hydra time ok ok ok time to put in the work! ... after last minute quests)
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Diprosopus
i only do like 300 damage to it before it kills me but................. i mean i guess.
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