Some Subetan species just cannot shake their mischievous tendencies, even in darkmatter. It seems that the (newly redone) darkmatter charlie and ghostly are having fun playing with their new... friends.
Posted by Luxe
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I'm not going to say the Charlie is bad, because it certainly has merits. The pose and facial expression are fabulous, but the piece as a whole does not fit with the rest of the DM revamps we have been getting lately. The shading is flat, in comparison, and the dark matters look plastic and are missing the connecting auras that the others have. Was the unfinished version of the piece uploaded or something?
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*sorry, I thought that Devonti wasn't revamped yet. XD
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DM Devonti?
The ghostly is nice. I like it.
As for the Charlie, I must say it's simply AMAZING! I believe I owe the artists a huge thank-you and apology as I was part of the crowd begging for the revamp. Don't listen to the people who say its outdated, because there are people (like me ^^) who love it. Its chibi and cute, which I'm sure it's trying not to be. <img src="http://images.subeta.net/smilies/6398_emoticon_raspberry.gif" border="0" /> In a way, it looks like the Cheshire cat. <img src="http://images.subeta.net/smilies/6398_emoticon_happy.gif" border="0" />
Next, I'd like to see a DM torrey.
As for the Charlie, I must say it's simply AMAZING! I believe I owe the artists a huge thank-you and apology as I was part of the crowd begging for the revamp. Don't listen to the people who say its outdated, because there are people (like me ^^) who love it. Its chibi and cute, which I'm sure it's trying not to be. <img src="http://images.subeta.net/smilies/6398_emoticon_raspberry.gif" border="0" /> In a way, it looks like the Cheshire cat. <img src="http://images.subeta.net/smilies/6398_emoticon_happy.gif" border="0" />
Next, I'd like to see a DM torrey.
I like the ghostly very much~
Not too into the charlie, looks a little outdated... But still cute~
Not too into the charlie, looks a little outdated... But still cute~
I agree about the Charlie, to me it looks a bit like something that was drawn years ago. @@;
Love the Ghostly though~
Love the Ghostly though~
The charlie is cute, but like a lot of people have pointed out, it looks like a version we should have seen long ago. It doesn't fit as much with the newer DM pets.
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wow, i LOVE the dark matter ones! and i LOVE the charlie! whoever drew this is amazing
I think the ghostly is a vast improvement, and is very well done. I like red mouth, the purple at the bottom edge, and overall the more complex shading and details make it more three dimensional and animated.
Like some of the others here, the Charlie isn't quite at the same level. I actually was confused as to whether it was a tail or one of its wings on its back and had to refer to an older version for clarification. It seems disproportionate, kind of chibified, and the way the dark matter isn't connected is inconsistent with the rest of the recent DM revamps.
Like some of the others here, the Charlie isn't quite at the same level. I actually was confused as to whether it was a tail or one of its wings on its back and had to refer to an older version for clarification. It seems disproportionate, kind of chibified, and the way the dark matter isn't connected is inconsistent with the rest of the recent DM revamps.
The Darkmatter on the Ghostly's head honestly bugs the heck outta me. <img src="http://images.subeta.net/smilies/smiley_sadface.gif" border="0" /> This one sorta looks like someone was adding a darkmatter on top of the ghostly's head but forgot to do half of it. It just feels unnatural.
..Wow, a Charlie, sometimes it feels like they barely exists. I agree, though, it's missing the connecting aura, and looks Chibified. The tail looks like it should be pushed a bit farther back, and actually in general the Charlie looks plastic. A few, tiny tufts of fur in the shading wouldn't hurt.
..Wow, a Charlie, sometimes it feels like they barely exists. I agree, though, it's missing the connecting aura, and looks Chibified. The tail looks like it should be pushed a bit farther back, and actually in general the Charlie looks plastic. A few, tiny tufts of fur in the shading wouldn't hurt.
O.o Gosh, it's a Charlie. I forgot such a species existed. I don't recall seeing any new colours of it while I was here... meaning, for almost 1,5 years! Not bad looking, but still, the Ghostly definitely looks better. I don't know why. Maybe its shading is more detailed. I know there are different styles of drawing and colouring, but... yeah, that must be it. ^^;
The charlie seems very strange to me, especially the wings, hind leg and head. I can't quite put my finger on it, but they all strike me as somehow off.
The charlie is my favorite Subeta pet, but this revamp doesn't tickle my fancy at all. The head seems too large for the body, the right wing is oddly placed & confuses me & I guess there just isn't enough shading to make it pop enough, it looks very flat. I DO however, like the expression & posing of the Charlie.
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omg, i sooo loves the remakes, i may just get the charlie! and the ghostly is totally awesome!
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I like the Charlie.. But the Ghosly is WAY better.. I like the old Darkmatter Charlie better.
I love the Charlie ♥ I never knew they didn't have a tail <img src="http://images.subeta.net/smilies/smiley_xface.gif" border="0" /> it never occurred to me!
ANYWAY They are both very nice <img src="http://images.subeta.net/smilies/6398_emoticon_smile.gif" border="0" />
ANYWAY They are both very nice <img src="http://images.subeta.net/smilies/6398_emoticon_smile.gif" border="0" />
The charlie is just....
Un-Proportionate and chibified..... Just... bleh.
I'm sorry but I hope the bloodred charlie isn't revamped similar to this one. <img src="http://images.subeta.net/smilies/smiley_sadface.gif" border="0" />
Un-Proportionate and chibified..... Just... bleh.
I'm sorry but I hope the bloodred charlie isn't revamped similar to this one. <img src="http://images.subeta.net/smilies/smiley_sadface.gif" border="0" />
I always enjoy seeing the artwork. <img src="http://images.subeta.net/smilies/6398_emoticon_smile.gif" border="0" />
The Charlie looks almost chibi-fied! ..but in a wonderfully adorable way~ xD
Love both of the revamps, awesome job artists!! w
Love both of the revamps, awesome job artists!! w
lol, call me crazy, but i love that charlie! that mischievous little grin and the pose, too cute!
Once again; Subeta artisits~ congrats on the great show of talent... Hooray DARK MATTER!!!!
Love the Ghostly! Especially the DM on its head. And the little DM pieces are, as always, lovely and whimsical. I do agree that the Charlie's head looks oddly too big for its body, though -- first thing I noticed looking at the post.
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I love both. x3 Very much so. But to me, the charlies head seems a little... big. o.o It's great and wonderful art, but the head seems a little too big for the poor dears body.... Could just be the way it's facing though. Either way, it's a wonderful addition to the site. :3 Thank you for working so hard artists!
@quezy, I was just throwing a guess out there. I don't usually have conversations over a pet revamp/release. And I have no clue as to how all the artists work.
@Quezy(hope I spelled it right D; ipods are pains)
And that it totally understandable. I just think there's a fine line between criticism that may not be positive but helps
and criticism that is entirely unneeded. Things like it seems rushed it fine! But things like shortaxel said are the problem... <img src="http://images.subeta.net/smilies/smiley_sadface.gif" border="0" /> know what I mean?
And silouette(again sorry for spelling. My iPod doesnt let me see that far up XD)
Exactly my point my friend.
And that it totally understandable. I just think there's a fine line between criticism that may not be positive but helps
and criticism that is entirely unneeded. Things like it seems rushed it fine! But things like shortaxel said are the problem... <img src="http://images.subeta.net/smilies/smiley_sadface.gif" border="0" /> know what I mean?
And silouette(again sorry for spelling. My iPod doesnt let me see that far up XD)
Exactly my point my friend.
OH my, thank you for posting those pics Rhino. <img src="http://images.subeta.net/smilies/6398_emoticon_heart.gif" border="0" />
That Charlie is awesome, and I really like both of them. Now others can see the changes and make an overlay if they like the old one more.
That Charlie is awesome, and I really like both of them. Now others can see the changes and make an overlay if they like the old one more.
Durrrrr
*I love the new Charlie <img src="http://images.subeta.net/smilies/6398_emoticon_smile.gif" border="0" />
*I love the new Charlie <img src="http://images.subeta.net/smilies/6398_emoticon_smile.gif" border="0" />
You're welcome Incondite. <img src="http://images.subeta.net/smilies/6398_emoticon_happy.gif" border="0" />
Here are the old versions for comparison <img src="http://images.subeta.net/smilies/6398_emoticon_smile.gif" border="0" />
<img src=http://wikibeta.mbif.net/images/b/ba/Old_Darkmatter_Charlie.gif border="0"> <img src=http://wikibeta.mbif.net/images/4/48/Old_Darkmatter_Ghostly.gif border="0">
I love the the Charlie! The first version of Charlie I've ever taken fancy to <img src="http://images.subeta.net/smilies/6398_emoticon_smile.gif" border="0" /> Reminds me of the Cheshire Cat, love the grin!
<img src=http://wikibeta.mbif.net/images/b/ba/Old_Darkmatter_Charlie.gif border="0"> <img src=http://wikibeta.mbif.net/images/4/48/Old_Darkmatter_Ghostly.gif border="0">
I love the the Charlie! The first version of Charlie I've ever taken fancy to <img src="http://images.subeta.net/smilies/6398_emoticon_smile.gif" border="0" /> Reminds me of the Cheshire Cat, love the grin!
I believe Incondite is trying to point that out. If there is something about a piece of art you don't like, use constructive criticism, don't just say you don't like it and leave.
@Quezy, well, some people are begging for certain pets to be released soon. The artist may have been trying to fill that request, or life got in the way of focusing solely on the pets revamp.
@Quezy, well, some people are begging for certain pets to be released soon. The artist may have been trying to fill that request, or life got in the way of focusing solely on the pets revamp.
I feel bad for the DarkMatter in that Ghostly's hand...poor thing. Can someone explain to me how the DarkMatter is able bend like that? I haven't seen one like that before O.o
Excuse my horrible grammar back there. *don't know
And as for my opinion, I prefer the DM Ghostly. I've never been one to appreciate sightless things, but this one's too cute to pass on.
And as for my opinion, I prefer the DM Ghostly. I've never been one to appreciate sightless things, but this one's too cute to pass on.
Oh and thank you for understanding Ritsu! C: At least you know what I'm trying to say. XD
@Incondite
The thing is, I don't think the artist worked hard on this one. I'm not meaning to be rude or anything, but it looks rushed to me. It could have used more work before it got released. :/
The thing is, I don't think the artist worked hard on this one. I'm not meaning to be rude or anything, but it looks rushed to me. It could have used more work before it got released. :/
I agree partially with Incondite, but having to sugarcoat an opinion isn't what everyone's going to do. There will be people more blunt than others.
But having that said, it's not an open invitation to ungrateful brats who doesn't know what bloody constructive criticism is.
@shortaxel, I believe you ought to learn some.
But having that said, it's not an open invitation to ungrateful brats who doesn't know what bloody constructive criticism is.
@shortaxel, I believe you ought to learn some.
Aw. <img src="http://images.subeta.net/smilies/6398_emoticon_heart.gif" border="0" /> the charlie stopped screaming now. C:
Exactly my point. Shortaxel proved some people are just rude. Thanx axel. Perfect timing. =_= I rest my case on account of school in the morning.
Don't be rude. The artist worked ever so hard. I'm out.
Don't be rude. The artist worked ever so hard. I'm out.
Oh wow, this is fantastic! I love all these dark matter pets coming out. <img src="http://images.subeta.net/smilies/6398_emoticon_smile.gif" border="0" />
@Shortaxel, it is a revamp, I can promise. The original was standing upright, just like a common Charlie, but had the darkmatter colors and orbs. This is a great improvement from it.
I'd also refrain from insulting the artist and their work. They do this for us to choose the pet we like, not to force you to love it. <img src="http://images.subeta.net/smilies/6398_emoticon_smile.gif" border="0" />
I'd also refrain from insulting the artist and their work. They do this for us to choose the pet we like, not to force you to love it. <img src="http://images.subeta.net/smilies/6398_emoticon_smile.gif" border="0" />
Incondite, I agree. Stating a reason why rather than that you just dislike it is far more appealing. But it is not necessary to list why. But I also agree that are more "agreeable" ways to tell someone you like a piece of artwork. ^^; I personally don't say anything if I don't like something, and offer a idea as to what has thrown me off.
Now I'm just getting tired and unable to form a correct sentence in my head.
Now I'm just getting tired and unable to form a correct sentence in my head.
Alright, alright. Like you said, we all have opinions. And I was stating mine. I'm quite happy with the results. But some people only make matters worse. Please realize this is not directed at everyone who doesnt like it. Just at those with not a good way with words.
