
Something is different here... Oh! Right, welcome to the new Subeta! We have worked very hard over the past few months to create a new layout that is easier for everyone to browse.
Here are some of the biggest changes that we've made with the new layout:
- The layout is now fluid in width, which means that it will resize itself depending on the size of your browser window. This lets us make things around the site fit the entire screen, and not feel so cramped.
- Widgets! These are the boxes on the left side of your screen. You can change the ones that are shown here. There are some really cool ones like showing your friend feed, the amount of quests you've done for the day, and more! They can also be dragged and moved around the sidebar, or hidden.
- Dashboard / Events: The dashboard is where the widgets live, and the events pane is where your events will live! You can change your preferences here, to how you would like the dashboard to act. We suggest setting it to smart so that you are notified when you have new events!
- Dropdowns, which means that we don't have to use up the entire sidebar for the navigation. We've reorginized the links to make a little more sense, and allow you to move around the site easier.
You may have noticed that your CustomCSS and your Pet Profiles have been cleared. They generally aren't compatible with the new layout, but we did save your coding and you can find it here! Feel free to copy it and paste it back into your CustomCSS/Pet Profiles, just be warned that everything might not work the same!
You can leave your feedback for the new layout here. We will be making changes to the new layout as we see problems (or things that should be changed).
Thank you for sticking with us and remaining loyal to Subeta, we really appreciate it and have worked really hard to make this layout as easy to use as we could. If you have any problems, please report them here, so that we can fix them quickly.
Posted by Keith
Those of you who always think 'older is better' can go back, get an 8-track player, and stop bitching.
-worships you-
Well put.
Those who keep mentioning how this is just like Neopets, needs to stop being addicted to that site.
-worships you-
Well put.
Those who keep mentioning how this is just like Neopets, needs to stop being addicted to that site.

Actually I do like the whole new look and the drop down menus....what I don't like is how painfully slow it is and how sometimes the pages won't load at all. Maybe that's just for those of us who don't have particularly fast internet, if so, then I won't be able to play as it's driving me crazy! I hope things get better as this is where I spend most of my free time <img src="http://images.subeta.net/smilies/6398_emoticon_smile.gif" border="0" />

So far so good, I lik ethe new look of Subeta <img src="http://images.subeta.net/smilies/6398_emoticon_smile.gif" border="0" /> Though right now it seems that the site is slower, now that might be because everyone and their dog is on here checking it out, so hopefully its not the new look thats making it slower <img src="http://images.subeta.net/smilies/6398_emoticon_smile.gif" border="0" />
Keep up the good work Keith and staff!
Keep up the good work Keith and staff!
Get him Keith!
RAWR x3
Anyways, I don't think Neopets when I look at this beautiful layout.
Because Neo is a major headache to me, and I'm headache free right now.
It's wonderful, I got time to play around with it while it was in beta. I was happy then, still am.
The only thing that bugs me is that if there's not a whole ton of things on the page, it just blacks out the rest.
sort of hard on the eyes, might be my computer.
RAWR x3
Anyways, I don't think Neopets when I look at this beautiful layout.
Because Neo is a major headache to me, and I'm headache free right now.
It's wonderful, I got time to play around with it while it was in beta. I was happy then, still am.
The only thing that bugs me is that if there's not a whole ton of things on the page, it just blacks out the rest.
sort of hard on the eyes, might be my computer.

I love this new layout so much. Words just cannot express. Kudos to whoever drew the themes too. So pretty <img src="http://images.subeta.net/smilies/6398_emoticon_heart.gif" border="0" /> I love all the widgets too! Great job to everyone involved. <img src="http://images.subeta.net/smilies/6398_emoticon_grin.gif" border="0" />

I don't know what any of you are talking about. This site is very well structured - I can find everything I want without having to go looking everywhere for it - and is very pleasing on the eyes. I also like how malleable everything is - I can change my side board to do lots of different things. It's also very 'clean' in that I don't have to see anything I don't need. I can close any of the things I don't want to see, and I only see the links I need when looking for them (aka, dropping them down).
Everything's aesthetically pleasing, which is saying a lot. Most sites I've been to have little to none of the sheer gorgeousness that I see in this site. I hate to say it, but how 'pretty' a site is is just as important to me as how functional it is - and I have to say that this site has both.
Those of you who always think 'older is better' can go back, get an 8-track player, and stop bitching.
^-^ Kaythx.
Everything's aesthetically pleasing, which is saying a lot. Most sites I've been to have little to none of the sheer gorgeousness that I see in this site. I hate to say it, but how 'pretty' a site is is just as important to me as how functional it is - and I have to say that this site has both.
Those of you who always think 'older is better' can go back, get an 8-track player, and stop bitching.
^-^ Kaythx.
The only other petsite I know of with a drop-down menu is Neopets. :/
But like I said, when my cursor travels up to a different tab, drop down menus /always/ get in my way. This layout looks like it's going to take up waaaaaaay too much memory on my home computer, and I honestly don't know if I'll actually be able to even play.
I really wish it was possible to either browse with the old layout or the new layout, as apparently there seems to be a split opinion. It just... won't work for me. It's kind of upsetting.
But like I said, when my cursor travels up to a different tab, drop down menus /always/ get in my way. This layout looks like it's going to take up waaaaaaay too much memory on my home computer, and I honestly don't know if I'll actually be able to even play.
I really wish it was possible to either browse with the old layout or the new layout, as apparently there seems to be a split opinion. It just... won't work for me. It's kind of upsetting.
Very neopets-esque. Surely you must have realized it when you made it? Basically an exact copy minus widgets, great art though, but really disappointed...
I'm going to be honest and say that, having a large monitor, having the whole screen taken up is just a tad bit overwhelming...but that might just be me. I'm sure I'll get used to it.
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Cry some more.
Cry some more.
I have to say i kind of like the new subeta.
Yes, it is more organized and the layout colors go together awesomely. I don't think it'll take that much for me to gey used to...
BUT
is it just me or the site is HORRIBLY SLOW?! Dx
that's one thing i won't get used to jksdf
Yes, it is more organized and the layout colors go together awesomely. I don't think it'll take that much for me to gey used to...
BUT
is it just me or the site is HORRIBLY SLOW?! Dx
that's one thing i won't get used to jksdf

Well, glad to see all that talk about contructive criticism stuck with everyone! Jackasses.
I loved it when I was testing it, and I still do. Thanks all the staff who worked so hard on it - there are some people who do appreciate what you do.
I loved it when I was testing it, and I still do. Thanks all the staff who worked so hard on it - there are some people who do appreciate what you do.
<b>Quote By noirraven:</b><blockquote style="padding:5px; line-height:15px; background-color: #FAFFFF; border: 1px solid #000000; font-family: georgia; font-size: 10;">"Easier?" This layout is anything but. Our previous layout was the easier one. Everything was there, in the open and you didn't need to fiddle with silly drop down menus to get to where you were going. This is why I quit neopets! DX
I guess I should've stated my objections to this layout during the testing phase but would that have really stopped you? No. Asking for the GA's opinions, like voting, isn't all that essential to the process. You guys made this layout, tested it and despite objections, were going to make this happen whether we liked it or not.</blockquote>
Just out of interest, have you ever liked any change ever made on subeta?
I guess I should've stated my objections to this layout during the testing phase but would that have really stopped you? No. Asking for the GA's opinions, like voting, isn't all that essential to the process. You guys made this layout, tested it and despite objections, were going to make this happen whether we liked it or not.</blockquote>
Just out of interest, have you ever liked any change ever made on subeta?
I'm glad it's green. One gets sick of seeing a million blue-themed layouts and their mothers <img src="http://images.subeta.net/smilies/6398_emoticon_wink.gif" border="0" />

Sweet, I'm diggin it. All you people that don't like it give it a chance, they worked too hard on it for you to shoot it down the same day they put it up. Remember, the only thing that doesn't change it change itself. So adapt!
it's amazing! <img src="http://images.subeta.net/smilies/6398_emoticon_happy.gif" border="0" />
it'll defiantly take some time to get used to, though.<img src="http://images.subeta.net/smilies/6398_emoticon_raspberry.gif" border="0" />
it'll defiantly take some time to get used to, though.<img src="http://images.subeta.net/smilies/6398_emoticon_raspberry.gif" border="0" />
o.o I can safely say that I don't like it. It's slow, it's cumbersome. Might just be me, but the news page is nearly impossible to read now, everything is all cramped together. But, like I said, that could just be me since my youngest was button smashing and changed my font on the whole computer, so now things are generally messed up.

...This doesn't look anything like Neopets. Are people just trying to find some desperate way to shoot it down? OH is it cause the navigation is a menu on top with drop-down selections? I can see how that would make the whole site be exactly like Neopets.
Anyways, this is just lovely. I notice a little extra lag and I keep getting logged out but the design itself I love and it's very easy to get accustomed to.
Anyways, this is just lovely. I notice a little extra lag and I keep getting logged out but the design itself I love and it's very easy to get accustomed to.

Keith
STAFF
@Ryan I have a few problems with your comment (of course!)
#1 - I'm not sure how having tabbed drop downs == Neopets. Can you give me more examples of how this layout is similar to the Neopets layout? Other than how we're both virtual pet sites... plenty of other sites have left-side bars along with top navigation. It's pretty common actually.
Also, the entire creative department (And I can assure you that our artists aren't 'second rate') worked on this layout, and no one who worked on it is what I would consider second rate. It's easy to label someone unprofessional unless you know... <strong>they get a professional job deigning a layout for a website</strong>. What exactly are the qualifications for being a 'professional'?
I'm not sure how this layout makes people have issues looking from left to right. I'm fairly sure that we haven't put a mirror to the text, and it all still reads from left-right. The most important information (dashboard) is on the left, which is where your eyes should look first...
I'm just confused <img src="http://images.subeta.net/smilies/6398_emoticon_sad.gif" border="0" />!
#1 - I'm not sure how having tabbed drop downs == Neopets. Can you give me more examples of how this layout is similar to the Neopets layout? Other than how we're both virtual pet sites... plenty of other sites have left-side bars along with top navigation. It's pretty common actually.
Also, the entire creative department (And I can assure you that our artists aren't 'second rate') worked on this layout, and no one who worked on it is what I would consider second rate. It's easy to label someone unprofessional unless you know... <strong>they get a professional job deigning a layout for a website</strong>. What exactly are the qualifications for being a 'professional'?
I'm not sure how this layout makes people have issues looking from left to right. I'm fairly sure that we haven't put a mirror to the text, and it all still reads from left-right. The most important information (dashboard) is on the left, which is where your eyes should look first...
I'm just confused <img src="http://images.subeta.net/smilies/6398_emoticon_sad.gif" border="0" />!
Thanks for all the useless snotty shit comments guys!
The layout is going to be crazy for me to get used to, but i for one like it a lot more. <img src="http://images.subeta.net/smilies/6398_emoticon_smile.gif" border="0" /> JUST BECAUSE ITS NEW DOESNT MEAN IT SUCKS
The layout is going to be crazy for me to get used to, but i for one like it a lot more. <img src="http://images.subeta.net/smilies/6398_emoticon_smile.gif" border="0" /> JUST BECAUSE ITS NEW DOESNT MEAN IT SUCKS
So there's now no way to get to your profile page? Anyone notice how that post card picture comes down and blocks some of the text on the page? Like when you egg someone's house, you can't see all the text since the postcard comes down and blocks it. But yeah I'll never understand the trend of drop down menus...there's not one thing I like about drop down menus. Sidebars are so much better.
Tche - I actually prefer sidebar navigation to drop down menus because drop down menus are so annoying if you accidentally scroll over them. I've got a tablet so sometimes I'll accidentally click aways from something.
It was bad enough when I did wizard quests and the little "online friends" window kept popping up. But these tabs? I'm not even going to try.
I honestly have to say I hate it. :/
It was bad enough when I did wizard quests and the little "online friends" window kept popping up. But these tabs? I'm not even going to try.
I honestly have to say I hate it. :/

This is going to be tough to undo years of being familiar with the old layout. I'm already struggling to find things and it makes me frustrated, and when I'm frustrated I'm not having fun playing. I'll get over it eventually, but I don't adapt to such dramatic changes very easily.
i like it, just i find it confusing to get around. also, the prefrences link keeps taking me my page, and then logging me out. X( grr face.
I hate it at the moment, but that's because I'm on an old lady computer and all the settings make everything white... I can't see any of the background art or dropdown menus... I bet I'll love it back home, but right now it's just a pain. =(

I'm really used to in what 5 mins?
I really enjoy it and It's look really good.
But..god so slow :C!
I really enjoy it and It's look really good.
But..god so slow :C!

It's a change of course, but I'm sure once I play around with it more, I'll get used to it. I do like the idea of how things are customized as far as what you want to see (there are some events I kept getting over and over again), and then there are something things I really wanted to have available so it's nice to be able and get what I want showing up.
It's a bit of a shock at first. It'll take some getting use to but change can be good. I was getting rather bored with the old layout. This is fresh and exciting. I like it.

<b>Quote:</b><blockquote style="padding:5px; line-height:15px; background-color: #FAFFFF; border: 1px solid #000000; font-family: georgia; font-size: 10;">It's poorly designed, unoriginal and changes the entire westerner's natural instinct of working left to right. </blockquote>
Left sidebars actually totally sabotage the effect of looking left to right in continuity, as the extreme left has something you cannot read if you want to stay consistent. It makes it easier to the reader than a left sidebar.
Sidebar navigation SUCKS. It's the first thing you learn when you learn HTML, and you quickly see how restrictive and clunky and awkward it is.
Left sidebars actually totally sabotage the effect of looking left to right in continuity, as the extreme left has something you cannot read if you want to stay consistent. It makes it easier to the reader than a left sidebar.
Sidebar navigation SUCKS. It's the first thing you learn when you learn HTML, and you quickly see how restrictive and clunky and awkward it is.
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You know, I don't usually like change but this is a nice new layout - will have to get used to browsing in it though I'm sure it'll grow on me c:
I would like to have the white background back rather than the grey...
I would like to have the white background back rather than the grey...
Wow this is great, everything had fallen into place, its so neat and organised! (and fills the screen <img src="http://images.subeta.net/smilies/6398_emoticon_smile.gif" border="0" /> )
"The layout is now fluid in width, which means that it will resize itself depending on the size of your browser window. This lets us make things around the site fit the entire screen, and not feel so cramped."
i think thats the main problem with the style there is no design if the size is changing all time ... i think that is the only bad thing on the new layout... this makes subeta slow loading
i think thats the main problem with the style there is no design if the size is changing all time ... i think that is the only bad thing on the new layout... this makes subeta slow loading

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I think this all can be summed up into two words: Bad. Ass.
Not liking it at all. I beta-tested it for a bit-- didn't like it then, don't like it now. Simple is better, in my opinion. I'm not a huge fan of tabs and drop-downs.
Hey I didn't realize I was on Neopets! Oh wait, my bad. This is STILL the most awkward looking layout I've ever seen. It's poorly designed, unoriginal and changes the entire westerner's natural instinct of working left to right. Just because the designer of the layout is some japanese fanatic doesn't mean they should work in reverse. There should've been a professional doing this layout instead of some second rate HQ staff member sitting around in her hello kitty pajamas playing with Photoshopz!1!11 So yes while everyones gasps in awe of the art -- which is lovely by the way, the artists are quite talented -- this shouldn't distract from the fact that the layout is a complete failure. This layout is not Subeta, this layout is Neopets.
Needs polishing imo.
Like a bit of space left at the bottom, even if there is not anything more to display, or a matching background color for high resolutions (I have a widescreen, 1680x1050 resolution, so it kinda bugs all design.
Also, change image dropdown for text ones, much easier with the browser and bandwidth.
Like a bit of space left at the bottom, even if there is not anything more to display, or a matching background color for high resolutions (I have a widescreen, 1680x1050 resolution, so it kinda bugs all design.
Also, change image dropdown for text ones, much easier with the browser and bandwidth.


And it also looks like it'll be very hard to tell when there's new news. I'll have to consciously look every time to see if there's an extra line there, instead of glancing and seeing that black outline. Maybe the news alert can be in red or some other color that stands out?
The colors and art are great, though. <img src="http://images.subeta.net/smilies/6398_emoticon_smile.gif" border="0" />