Neugarten, the new Alegarten
A new leaf requires a new name, ja, so I'd like to welcome you all to celebrate Neugarten with me! I’ll be grilling up hot food und vegan ale und beer over at Gunter's Grill, und two others from ze vegan community are joining me to sell some awesome vegan products. Manwar from ze Trading Card Center is here selling many packaged vegan ingredients und replacements, from non-dairy milks to his favorite hummus recipes, und Rumi from Stick it to ze Man! is here selling various Fashion und Lifestyle items. Just a taste of vegan life right now, hopefully, next year we can come back bigger und even better!
Come along, enjoy some new food und we're here for questions if you're interested in learning more. We’ll be here until July 3rd at 11:59PM!
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Rah
STAFF
@Muerte - oh for sure! We honestly had such a big list of things I wanted to see on site (we don't even have many beans or tofu right now!) but I didn't want to do EVERYTHING in one go so we have a big list to work from in years to come :)
Uh hello I would like this cookie recipe please??? I just made vegan shortbread the other day and they were basically heaven and only like 4 ingredients (flour, sugar, vegan butter, salt) but I want to make more cookies, all of the cookies.
Oh gosh yes about surprise ingredients - there's a bakery here that makes these Belgian buns that I adore and are vegan, but apparently they have sweet potato in them which my friend found out because her husband is allergic and did not expect to find them there! Basically I think good labelling is really essential.
Uh hello I would like this cookie recipe please??? I just made vegan shortbread the other day and they were basically heaven and only like 4 ingredients (flour, sugar, vegan butter, salt) but I want to make more cookies, all of the cookies.
Oh gosh yes about surprise ingredients - there's a bakery here that makes these Belgian buns that I adore and are vegan, but apparently they have sweet potato in them which my friend found out because her husband is allergic and did not expect to find them there! Basically I think good labelling is really essential.
@Rah
Yeah it seems to be a mostly US thing to do, though I would love to see a vegan sugar bag to go along with all the restockable baking stuff ! And vegan chocolates. I recently did some BOMB vegan cookies that made me search for vegan chocolate chips.
So many random things in our foods. I have to watch out for apple products in non-apple items because of my allergy and the food industry using it as a flavor enhancer.
Yeah it seems to be a mostly US thing to do, though I would love to see a vegan sugar bag to go along with all the restockable baking stuff ! And vegan chocolates. I recently did some BOMB vegan cookies that made me search for vegan chocolate chips.
So many random things in our foods. I have to watch out for apple products in non-apple items because of my allergy and the food industry using it as a flavor enhancer.
Rah
STAFF
@Muerte - Yup! Less so in the UK, I don't think any of our big sugar companies do that so I tend to forget about it, but white sugar can definitely be bleached with bone char from animals. There's a ton of weird stuff that you wouldn't think would have animals in that...has animals in it. Lanolin (from sheep's wool) is used to make the D3 vitamins I think that's added to a lot of foods. I expect a large part of the animal agriculture industry will try to sell to as many places as possible, which is why so many food products have milk powder in when you're like 'but why?'
Rah
STAFF
@Andrea - some good ideas!To answer the beer thing - not all beer is vegan! Many lagers generally are, but a lot of ales use a fining process to remove things like yeast particles and bits left over from the brewing process. They will use things like isinglass (fish bladder) or sometimes egg or gelatin to remove these leftover bits (which is called fining). A lot of craft beers now will contain lactose too, but obviously these ones do not!
Some people identifying as vegan are ok with or just don't worry too much about the beer thing as they're not ingesting the actual animal product, it's a process, and it can be tough to figure out if some places are doing it. You do your best, y'anno?
Some people identifying as vegan are ok with or just don't worry too much about the beer thing as they're not ingesting the actual animal product, it's a process, and it can be tough to figure out if some places are doing it. You do your best, y'anno?
vegan options and vegan pride stuff: fair, alright
vegan stuff that openly or indirectly accuses meat eaters of cruelty/immorality: i'll pass
vegan stuff that openly or indirectly accuses meat eaters of cruelty/immorality: i'll pass
eally enjoy the character evolution here, especially since Gunter is this big burly manly man who's now vegan and loves his leetle goat. Happy vibes.
I am a bit confused at the vegan brews, I assume it's more for the theme and less because booze is almost exclusively vegan. I am also a bit sad because there's only been a handful of holidays that always involved alcohol (because clearly my bb Saladin is lacking, nit, but that's besides the point).
If there's an opening for suggestions, I'd love to see more "natural, sustainable, organic, eco-friendly" beers, and ciders (they're amazing too okay) and such. There was a really neat concept on Bill Nye Saves the World, where a brewery (I believe it was in Phoenix AZ) that actually used recycled waste water to make beer. I would really love to see some evolution from not only animal friend/cruelty free, but earth friendly..... I could see that coming heavily from Esther's education. Or a small collaboration between them would be heartwarming idk
I am a bit confused at the vegan brews, I assume it's more for the theme and less because booze is almost exclusively vegan. I am also a bit sad because there's only been a handful of holidays that always involved alcohol (because clearly my bb Saladin is lacking, nit, but that's besides the point).
If there's an opening for suggestions, I'd love to see more "natural, sustainable, organic, eco-friendly" beers, and ciders (they're amazing too okay) and such. There was a really neat concept on Bill Nye Saves the World, where a brewery (I believe it was in Phoenix AZ) that actually used recycled waste water to make beer. I would really love to see some evolution from not only animal friend/cruelty free, but earth friendly..... I could see that coming heavily from Esther's education. Or a small collaboration between them would be heartwarming idk
Why do people feel the need to tell all the reasons they're not vegan WHENEVER veganism is mentioned? No one even asked you and nobody cares. Not everything to do with veganism is an attack on meat eaters, it's called diversity so everyone on subeta is happy.
@Valiska Heck yeah! I am an equal opportunity food-eater! But I'm gonna do my best to find a joint that does ribs from a local family farm, or other sustainable and ethically raised-and-euthanized farm!! >D
And I totally agree. I'm in the SJV of California where all the almond trees are and none of the water T-T I can't digest dairy milk but luckily bodegas have kept coconut milk suuuuuper cheap around here. Plus it's easy to source local family farms for EVERYTHING, animal products and produce alike.
And I totally agree. I'm in the SJV of California where all the almond trees are and none of the water T-T I can't digest dairy milk but luckily bodegas have kept coconut milk suuuuuper cheap around here. Plus it's easy to source local family farms for EVERYTHING, animal products and produce alike.
@Isilven Wanna go out for ribs?
I'm not really complaining, because this IS an accurate portrayal of the things many people who aspire to be vegan and finally pull it off really do say, but I live in the SF Bay Area where there are a lot of proselytising vegans and it's really very tiresome, particularly when they try to tell you how much damage dairy farming does to the water table during droughts with an almond milk latte in their hands. (There is almost nothing that drains the water table like almond trees, dude.)
I have celiac disease. I can't eat numerous grain proteins that vegetarians use to balance out their amino acids. Being vegan would be very difficult, though some people do it; but since I like meat , I'm okay with that. When people say "well, you're just not ready" or tries to tell me that I'd be super healthy and thin (the fattest person I have ever known was 100% vegan) if I'd just stop eating animals... yeah no, go away.
I'm not really complaining, because this IS an accurate portrayal of the things many people who aspire to be vegan and finally pull it off really do say, but I live in the SF Bay Area where there are a lot of proselytising vegans and it's really very tiresome, particularly when they try to tell you how much damage dairy farming does to the water table during droughts with an almond milk latte in their hands. (There is almost nothing that drains the water table like almond trees, dude.)
I have celiac disease. I can't eat numerous grain proteins that vegetarians use to balance out their amino acids. Being vegan would be very difficult, though some people do it; but since I like meat , I'm okay with that. When people say "well, you're just not ready" or tries to tell me that I'd be super healthy and thin (the fattest person I have ever known was 100% vegan) if I'd just stop eating animals... yeah no, go away.
As the resident Angry Veggie, this makes me soooooooo incredibly happy! I love and need all of it!!!!!! :D
Ah whoops, I must have missed that post.
Anyway, the new items look great! Can't wait to spend all my money. :P
Anyway, the new items look great! Can't wait to spend all my money. :P
@Amber
Just curious, but is Drunk Gunter still going to be a thing, or not anymore? There are still the achievements for this, so I'm just wondering.
Just curious, but is Drunk Gunter still going to be a thing, or not anymore? There are still the achievements for this, so I'm just wondering.
Nice to see so many tasty looking vegan items! I'm not a vegan myself, but I eat a lot of vegan foods and wish that more people appreciated them too.
Oh, and love the "honesty pot" at Quick Bites. xD
Oh, and love the "honesty pot" at Quick Bites. xD
Ahh so many cool new items! I have a lot of spending to do. :) <3 exciting for my first Neugarten, though I suppose technically it's everyones first neugarten... but you know what I mean. Also I love the Oatmeal based items... So cute!
Not vegan in the least, but these items look tasty! I just... Don't like beets XD. But these will be great for Vacutainer to munch on.
I love these foods, I love that there's a much better range of stuff to help include people (and animals) that have dietary restrictions or life choices, and I even love that they even had a character whose whole life kinda revolved around meat and non-vegetarian/vegan products change.
I personally will not be going vegan any time soon though. And I also kinda want to burn some of Rumi's items.
I personally will not be going vegan any time soon though. And I also kinda want to burn some of Rumi's items.
I'd love to see some stuff related to Hinduism and Jainism, since lots of people who follow those religions are vegan! I'd also love to see like a "LACTOSE FREE" sticker or something like that, perhaps something about sustainable food? The "CRUELTY FREE!" sticker is definitely more of the track I was hoping the event would stick to, pretty much.
I don't mean to sound ungrateful! I just was hoping for less of the like... "othering" that comes with being vegan/veggie, not everyone who lives/eats like that is all "rarara I am a warrior and you are bad if you are eating meat or other animal products!!" and it's a stigma that I want to help eliminate :3
I don't mean to sound ungrateful! I just was hoping for less of the like... "othering" that comes with being vegan/veggie, not everyone who lives/eats like that is all "rarara I am a warrior and you are bad if you are eating meat or other animal products!!" and it's a stigma that I want to help eliminate :3
Oh my god this food looks so tasty. Props to subeta artists for constantly making me want to eat pixels
Me: Oh I'm sure Subeta will be reasonable and unbiased about this! There are many reasons people choose to eat vegan or live a vegan lifestyle!
"Friends not Food! Vegan warrior!"
Me: -_-;
"Friends not Food! Vegan warrior!"
Me: -_-;
Haha, I was super confused a while back when I was refreshing at the brewery (for the battle opponent) and suddenly Gunther turned into Anne! Now I'm just super happy for all the items ^^
not vegan myself but its always nice to see dairy alternatives :thumbsup: milk that doesnt kill my stomach (thx lactose intolerance) is always good milk in my book
always a lil bit of everyone in these events and theyre great
always a lil bit of everyone in these events and theyre great
omg I just saw the Tempeh! That stuff is DELICIOUS! I had an amazing tempeh wrap a while ago, with salsa (made in-house) and I think spinach and stuff. It was delicious and I've been craving it so this is torture lol The tempeh at this place was fried so it wasn't exactly healthy but it was really tasty.
Helium is vegan! I don't think the shirts are made to fit balloons, but I could always plaster on a sticker or two ^X^
THIS IS AWESOME. I'm not veggie myself but I adore the dino and plant power shirts so much. ; w; AND I'M SO EXCITED ALEGARTEN REBRANDED IS BACK AGAIN.